US TPP Negotiators Accused Of Bullying; Refusing To Budge On Ridiculous IP And Corporate Sovereignty Demands

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This is hardly a surprise, but more reports are coming out revealing that the US’s ongoing strategy in negotiating the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) agreement is to not take into account the many, many concerns about the US’s hardline, maximalist position on both intellectual property issues and efforts to give corporations sovereignty over national laws under the misleadingly named (and purposely boring) “investor state dispute settlements” (ISDS). You would think that with widespread dissection and concerns expressed about the leaked intellectual property chapter, that the USTR might possibly ease up on its crazy maximalist demands. Not so — but that’s to be expected when you have Stan McCoy as the lead negotiator on intellectual property issues. McCoy is a famed extreme maximalist on IP issues who has more or less admitted to having no interest at all in hearing from public interest groups, while lapping up any opportunity to parrot bogus claims from the industry. McCoy was the same guy behind the embarassing disaster known as ACTA, which flopped so miserably. You’d think he’d take a hint, but instead it appears he’s decided to dig in his heels and make sure the US continues to live up to its reputation as an obnoxious bully.

Multiple reports have called out the US (and McCoy in particular) for its aggression and “bullying” in the negotiations. Others have accused the US of engaging in a “negotiation by exhaustion,” in which US negotiators seem to figure if they just stand their ground forever, everyone will eventually be bullied into agreeing to the US’s positions.

‘The US has adopted a strategy of exhaustion in its bullying of negotiators on the crucial intellectual property chapter to force countries to trade away health in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement negotiations in Salt Lake City’, according to Professor Jane Kelsey from the University of Auckland, New Zealand, who is monitoring the negotiations.

‘The US has stepped up its aggression as they move towards their “end point” of the TPPA ministerial meeting in Singapore from 7 to 10 December’, said Professor Kelsey.

[….] ‘This is a loaded game’, Professor Kelsey said. ‘McCoy sets the agenda and timetable. Negotiators are working from morning until late at night and preparing to work all night, if necessary.’

The second link above, from a publication in Australia, notes something similar and complains about the Australian government’s seeming willingness to side with the US on these issues:

The United States has been accused of negotiation by exhaustion in last-minute talks in Salt Lake City ahead of the final ministers’ meeting that will decide the makeup of the Trans Pacific trade deal between Australia and eleven other nations.

Information leaking from the closed official-level talks suggests the United States is giving no ground on questions of intellectual property and medicines and is insisting each nation sign up to so-called Investor State Dispute Settlement provisions that would allow global corporations to sue sovereign governments.

[….] “What is happening is not a negotiation,” said Patricia Ranald, Convenor of the Australian Fair Trade Network. “The United States is dictating the terms and it seems the Australian Government is not prepared to join other governments which are resisting these demands

While Stan McCoy plays out his own last stand game, pushing for policies that may help a few of his friends in the industry at the expense of the public, hopefully that last point — about other governments resisting McCoy’s attempt to bully them into a really bad deal — stays true. An analysis of the positions on the IP Chapter, done by Gabriel Michael, highlighted how the US’s position is a lot more isolated than it might like. That may explain the bullying behavior. It looks like the USTR is getting desperate, realizing its usual tricks and games aren’t fooling most of the other negotiators. As Michael’s analysis showed, the US and Japan (two of the strongest supporters of maximalism) appear to be fairly isolated — issuing a lot more proposals that no one else supports.

Of course, the USTR is somewhat famous for its ability to start horse trading, promising bogus sweetheart deals if people just agree to awful language that will do massive harm to the public, so it’s still something to be quite nervous about until any final text is revealed. Of course, just the fact that the USTR has still refused to reveal the text itself should be reason enough to recognize that this deal is a joke designed to screw over the public. Those acting in the interest of the public don’t hide their efforts from the public.

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Mason Wheeler (profile) says:

The TPP is tainted. People say “Congress won’t want to have to just throw the entire thing out because there could be parts in there that are good.” But I think by now, we’re to the point where it doesn’t matter. This proposed treaty has been tainted and is officially “toxic” now, and the entire thing should be thrown out.

Anonymous Coward says:

Am I being paranoid?

Investor state dispute settlements

These could become a nightmare in the hands of IP maximalists, implement the laws we want or we will demand compensation for the theoretical loss. A state could be bankrupted if it makes cheap drugs, or fails ti give the copyright cartels control over what is allowed on the Interenet.

Anonymous Coward says:

OK, so we have the US and Japan dug in. Australia is either tacitly with them or on the sidelines watching. Mexico has called for life plus 100 year copyright term so I have to believe that it’s on the side of tighter copyright. NZ? I haven’t heard a lot of opposition from their government.

So who exactly is the opposition? What if any leverage do they have?

Chargone says:

Re: Re:

NZ has a PM who may as well be in the multi-national/american corporations’corporations pokets, if only by way of being the same sort of person as their upper levels, while simultaniously the PM’s party has the tightest control over parliament since we swapped from FPP voting. Any single MP outside the party voting with them gives them a majority, letting them get away with a lot of stupid stuff.

Fortunately, it’s blatently onvious that they’ve shot themselves in the foot with repeated scandle, bad moves, ‘screw the little guy’, dismissing any objections to their plans… let’s just say their popularity’s in the toilet and they only won the last election due to media shinanigans claiming it was a forgone conclusion leading to an unusually low voter turnout over all. The bureaucrats can mostly see that, which helps a bit. I was actually surprised to see the NZ offficial position being Against so many bad ideas given the dodgy moves the current government’s pulled. (Passing already rejected and publicly panned copyright legislation under urgency as part of dealing with the Canterbury earthquale, for example.)

The Logician says:

They must be dealt with

McCoy’s increasing desperation is an emotional, illogical response to the failure of ACTA, his previous such project. However, it is unsurprising given his position. It is unfortunate that those such as he are permitted to retain power and cause further damage. We cannot make any lasting positive changes for our nations and societies while individuals such as he remain unpunished and in their positions of power. They must be dealt with first, and exposed for what they truly are.

Anonymous Coward says:

IMHO, these large, multinational corporations, in their unending quest for PROFIT at any cost, are slowly but surely destroying the planet and civilization. The longer we allow this to continue, the worse it gets. They may already be too rich and powerful to curb effectively, but we should try. The world of “Buy-n-Large” and Wall-e is a lot closer than most think.

Anonymous Coward says:

Summary of Investor-State dispute resolution. These types of clauses are out of the ordinary, but then again in any relationship between an investor and a sovereign the sovereign is essentially judgment proof if it happens to breach the investment agreement. Not sure that placing two parties on a more equal footing is necessarily a bad thing.

As for IP section, I am not aware of anything the US has proposed that is not within the scope of international treaties. If the USTR is playing “hard ball”, then good for him. Maybe we should move his over from the USTR to the Department of State, which seems to be in sore need of people who understand and are able to negotiate and close deals that actually mean something.

Anonymous Coward says:

like everything else involving the USA, it is never a ‘negotiation’, it is always ‘orders’ and everyone else is expected to do as they are told, like children!

the pharma parts will benefit only USA companies, making death inevitable, probably painful, and much sooner for millions who cant afford to pay US prices and whose countries are forbidden to produce ‘look alike drugs’ themselves. the IP part is to protect only make believe industries and phone companies who think it is beneficial to lock a person to a network and deals that are atrocious according to other countries (except Canada, which is just as big a rip off as the USA!). to have conditions that allow countries to be sued when they try to prevent harm done to their own people by refusing the sanctioning of drugs that are unproven, and the figures be some ‘plucked from the air amount’ that the company says it COULD have lost but for sale prevention, is ridiculous! those same companies are very slow to own up and pay up when sued themselves for causing peoples deaths! if other countries give in to this shit, the governments need to be taken to task, removed and the ‘agreements’ terms used loosely, thrown out! the best overall decision would be to stop dealing with the USA altogether!

there isn’t one of these ‘negotiations’ that has not been started by the USA and isn’t for the benefit of the USA and it’s industries. every single one also is detrimental to every other country involved.

get out people. start talks with countries that are a lot more sincere than the USA has been or ever will be!!

Anonymous Coward says:

ATTN: Mike Masnick

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Anonymous Coward says:


Malaysia, and other developing countries in ASEAN region, is keen to liberalise trade and intellectual property rights-related inventions to maximise climate change objectives (CC-os) within the Kytoto protocol.

The on-going negotiations must take into view SMES’ interests, particularly, the transfer of patents to drive green technologies.

The new MYBIOMASS, is a good deliverable under the TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER MECHANISM of UNFFFF as per COP-16 drummed out in cancun, mexico in 2010.

it is hoped that TPPA will consider and incorporate green procurement towards climate change objectives (CC-os) direction and not a dampener for Global Responsibility Framework in Asia-Pacific region.

he can be reached at

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