Collateral Censorship: Oxford Union Replaces Assange Speech Backdrop, Citing 'Copyright' Concerns
from the wrong-on-so-many-levels dept
Julian Assange recently gave an address, by video, to the Oxford Union Society. You can see a video of the whole thing here. When Assange is speaking, here’s what you see:

It’s bad enough that the Oxford Union digitally replaced the backdrop. However, even worse is the ridiculous excuse it gave. In response to Wikileaks’ accusations, the Oxford Union claimed it replaced the image because it didn’t want to violate the copyright in the video:
After taking extensive legal advice on this matter, the Union was advised not to display the background video in question for copyright reasons.
This is bogus on so many levels. First off, and most importantly, the video itself is a “work” of the US government, and as such is simply not protected by copyright law. Rather it is definitively in the public domain as per Section 105 of the Copyright Act. And, of course, even if it was subject to copyright, it would still be a ridiculous claim. There would be obvious fair use in merely showing a single still image from a longer video, especially given the context of the use and the speech. And, yes, this is in the UK, rather than the US, but even under UK “fair dealing” concepts, this would almost certainly be considered fair dealing.
Ridiculously, when Wikileaks explained this to the Oxford Union, it shot back with an even more confused response, focusing on the fact that nothing was “censored” and that this was all about “respecting copyright.”
We would like to point out that none of the speeches made during the evening in question were ‘censored’; neither was any part of the Q&A sessions.
Mr Assange’s speech was broadcast in its entirety, and as such we would encourage people to appreciate the distinction between censorship and respecting copyright.
Except, that’s not true. As Wikileaks has made clear, the image was an important part of the expression he was making — and just because you use a visual, that does not mean that it does not count as a form of speech. But the bigger joke is the idea that this has anything, whatsoever, to do with “respecting” copyright. If you “respect” copyright, you understand the difference between what’s in the public domain and what’s not, and you don’t claim you blocked public domain material to respect the copyright. That’s the opposite of respecting copyright. It’s bastardizing copyright for the purpose of stifling expression.
Filed Under: censorship, collateral murder, copyright, julian assange, oxford union
Comments on “Collateral Censorship: Oxford Union Replaces Assange Speech Backdrop, Citing 'Copyright' Concerns”
Definitions
What’s in a name, or the meaning of a word?
Perhaps the Oxford Union should look up “entirety” in the Oxford English Dictionary before they say anything else.
Mike, Mike,... You are confused...
Copyright is a very complex legal and ethical line. Few people or organizations are willing to try and cross the line.
So the case of better safe than sorry is not a bad thing…Since nothing will be gained by just agreeing or not.
Or we could just say we try to not violate copyright but if we do you get $1. Period.
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But this is one of the cases where the copyright situation is very clear. Showing the image would not have been a copyright violation, period.
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I agree!!!
I was just raising the stupidness of current law.
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It wouldn’t have been a copyright violation were it shown in the US, and probably (but I’m not 100% certain) wouldn’t were it shown in the UK. However, I’m not sure that the Oxford Union knew this. They are not, after all, experts on the laws of foreign countries.
Works produced by the UK government are not public domain by default (look up “Crown Copyright”). That they took the precaution is understandable, even if in hindsight they didn’t need to.
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It is what those who would censor speech want, as it makes it easy to abuse copyright to censor speech.
Re: Mike, Mike,... You are confused...
Copyright is a very complex legal and ethical line. Few people or organizations are willing to try and cross the line.
So the case of better safe than sorry is not a bad thing…Since nothing will be gained by just agreeing or not.
Yeah! It’s not like they’d have anyone at one of the world’s oldest and most prestigious schools who would be capable of figuring out the copyright status of an image/video recording!
Oxford might have a point if you replace “respecting” copyright with “fearing” copyright….
I’m sure the US Government (or some interested 3rd party) would file a DMCA takedown notice to censor the video on the grounds of copyright over the image.
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Yes, but legally-speaking, it has no legal authority to do so, as all Government-created works are automatically public domain, under US law.
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But “legally-speaking” US Govt are not going to use DMCA…
They will just say “this is a matter of National Security…. We’re taking your personal computer, any computer on campus that may contain a portion of the streamed clip in their cache, and just because we can, all the YouTube Servers as a punishment for your heinous crimes.”
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I don’t think this is a question of copyright at all. I think the brits were simply scared of US retribution if they had shown the still. Looking stupid to the few actually understanding how ridiculous the messsage was, has probably been weighed against US anger.
Let’s face it: Copyright is so complex internationally that nobody understands the sum of the restrictions (fair uses do not count internationally since they are different from country to country and the sum of 0 fair use in the field multiplied by the others fair use is zero). It is being misunderstood or intentionally abused as an excuse for just about anything today.
“Sorry I have a bad case of headache. I think I am coming down with a bad case of Copyright!”
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Yes, it is about fearing copyright. Since when does the US Government care about “legally-speaking”?
Correction
This article is just wrong. The Oxford Union DID play the video in full – backdrop included – live at the event, but the video they uploaded onto their YouTube site had the background removed, and their logo put in its place.
Get your facts right, then do the journalism.
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Don’t teach reading comprehension there at Cambridge huh?
“The Oxford Union DID play the video in full – backdrop included – live at the event, but the video they uploaded onto their YouTube site had the background removed, and their logo put in its place.” – So they censored it for the public. Got it.
“But that’s not what Assange actually had behind him.” – Implying it was shown at the live event.
How did you get into Oxford? Daddy must know someone.
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Or someone paid the ?150k to get in to the “independent” Admissions company.
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Protip: If you’re going to follow your “correction” with a rude, snarky comment, get your facts right.
Oxford students only have 2 carrer options:
Politicians and Lawyers.
SO what do you expect – fairness?
No, they have a point. 17 USC 105 is a statute concerning US copyright law. The Oxford Union is, I would imagine, in the UK. Section 105 doesn’t mean crap for them. What matters is whether there is a copyright under UK law. Probably, there is.
Remember, there’s no such thing as international copyright law. All the treaties do is impose requirements for the parties to enact appropriate legislation in their own jurisdictions, which will inescapably be national in nature. Whether the US has successfully disclaimed, or even could possibly disclaim (are they even the UK rightsholder?), copyright in the UK is up to the British, really, as is the question of whether they would want to grant a copyright to begin with.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_loci_protectionis
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There was an argument floating around for a while that works of the U.S. Government were still protected by copyright in foreign countries. I heard a rumor that Copyright Office was exploiting this to charge for its catalog outside of the U.S. Conceptually, this could turn on the law of each individual country in which the copyright is to be enforced.
Shame on Oxford
This is outrageous! If there was ever a better example of “fair user” I haven’t seen it! Shame on you, Oxford! Maybe Cambridge can do better?
more than anything, what this action shows is exactly how absolutely shit scared almost everyone is of violating copyright. yet again, the situation would not have arisen, had politicians done what they should have decades ago. instead of taking all the ‘encouragements’ offered by the likes of the entertainment industries and doing whatever they could to ‘help their powerful friends’, they had not allowed the ridiculous assertions made by those industries to transpire, then grow to the level of ridiculousness we have today, the truth or nearer to it, would be distributed.
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“scared almost everyone is of violating copyright.”
I’m guessing that it is more of an excuse than anything else.
Maybe Ozford will offer a new class, (Copyright Law:and Abuse Of).
Embrace, extend, extinguish
Imaging the future:
I’ll just replace this image with MY copyrighted/trademarked image, now I can control the distribution of this video.
Take down this video, it has my IP in it.
I really do not like Julian Assange whatsoever. But of course, I also despise copyright law and this instance is one reason why.
“That’s the opposite of respecting copyright. It’s bastardizing copyright for the purpose of stifling expression.”
What else would you expect from a university named after a shirt?
If you watch the video, when it shows shots of the live panel, a moving video image can be seen behind Assange on the monitors.
Copyright *is* censorship.
I’m not really surprised. The origins of copyright date back to the era of the printing press, and reason for copyright back then was for censorship.
For the first time in history, it was relatively easy for people to disseminate information widely, and the Powers That Were needed a way to control what was being said. Hence, copyright. Granting exclusive privileges to publish works in exchange for the officially licensed printers remaining under the control and restrictions established by the government and/or churches. That way no publications deemed “heretical” or “dissentious” could be printed and distributed.
Copyright is censorship. Censorship is the origin of copyright.
I have never seen a “still image” where persons in the image are walking…
This isn’t about copyright. This is about placating the US, so they don’t send goon squads in helicopters to raid Oxford Union. “Copyright” was just a convenient excuse.
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Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos
This is pretty minor but I think you can caption your imgur uploads so you might as well add the video’s URL to it in case someone happens upon the image.
It’s not a still image from “Collateral Murder” behind Assange during his speech. It’s a video. See here:
http://cambridge.tab.co.uk/2013/02/03/breaking-wikileaks-takes-on-oxford-union/
While you’re correct that material produced by the US government cannot be copyrighted in the United States, the US government could theoretically claim copyright in a foreign country, if the laws there allow it to do so.
On the other hand, the Oxford Union’s video was posted on YouTube, which is based in the US. I assume this would make it more difficult for the US to claim its copyright is being violated in the UK.
I am sure that the US government would not claim copyright on something that is being used in an editorial capacity, no matter if foreign laws allowed it. The “Collateral Murder” video has been broadcast by many news agencies in many countries. But UK laws would allow it, and Brits are accustomed to thinking in terms of Crown Copyright.
That explains why the FBI/DOJ/etc send out redacted documents for FOIA requests. It’s all about copyright! So we’ll need to wait till Mickey Mouse dies to get our hands in the document.
Copyright status of US government works
US government works are in then public domain in the US, but can be protected by copyright outside of the US. Here is the text from the House Report on this section:
How this would play out under UK law is an interesting question. The UK normally follows the “rule of the shorter term,” so that if something enters the public domain in the US, it is also in the public domain in the UK. But I don’t know what would happen if an object is in the public domain for reasons other than expiration of term.
Oxford Union - Apparatchiks for the NWO
On our Youtube EuroSceptic Channel, we posted a segment on Nigel Farage and his speech on #BREXIT. Apparently some Bill Clinton “Rapist” buddy did not like the EuroSceptic Channel and decide to complain on copyright infringements which they seem to know alot about. It does not matter to us, we will ride out the 3 month suspension storm and be back! The Saul Alinsky Apparatchiks will not have their way! – You can still subscribe to the channel, hopefully strength in numbers we can overcome this pestilence that plagues the academia. A mockery of their logo – “People who shape our world” NO THANKS – WE DON’T NEED YOUR KIND OF WORLD!
The Video in Question – https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=MscrU0UHvsI