Our Own Dark Helmet Shares Lessons From Crowdfunding Experiment

from the that's-one-dark-helmet dept

Last week, we kicked off our new “case study” series, with a post about musician Jason Parker’s experiments with “pay what you want” for his music. This week, we’re going in a different direction, as will be explained in a bit. We’ve received a bunch of suggestions for future case studies, with plenty of good ones, but if you know any content creator experimenting with interesting business models, who you think would make a good case study, please let us know via the “contact us” link at the top of the page.

For this case study, we’re actually going to discuss an experiment by someone that regular Techdirt readers may know quite a bit — especially if you spend a lot of time in our comments. It’s Tim Geigner, whose name may not be that familiar to you, but his alter ego Dark Helmet has been one of, if not the most prolific commenters on Techdirt, where he tends to play the role of comment enforcer, keeping people (including me at times) in line, when he feels anyone has spoken without thinking. Separate from that, however, he’s been writing a fair amount of fiction lately, which is quite enjoyable.

For one of his fiction books, Midwasteland, he decided to test out Kickstarter, a platform for “crowdfunding,” creative works, which has received a lot of attention. His Midwasteland project is still in process, so if you like his work, feel free to jump in and support him. That said, he’s not sure that he used Kickstarter all that well, and isn’t sure that his project will reach the necessary goal to get funded. I think there’s often a lot more that can be learned from what ideas didn’t work, than what did, so I talked with Tim about why he thinks things didn’t go as ideally as possible. First, however, he pointed out that even if the project doesn’t get funded, a few really good things have happened, which we’ll get to below. But, he’s taken away some important lessons on why Kickstarter hasn’t been quite a magic bullet:

Why didn’t it go as I’d initially hoped? The onus is all on me. That’s the other cool part of this: I’m learning lessons that I can use on my next project, whatever it may be.

Lesson 1: It isn’t enough to have a good idea, you have to do your due prep work to make it successful. My audience right now isn’t huge. It might not even be big. I knew that going in. What I know now is that I should have worked my tail off in getting this idea out there enough so that when I did release the project live, it would already have a presence. This go around I tried to do it the opposite way: release the project and hope it builds the bigger audience. That hasn’t worked.

Lesson 2: It isn’t enough to have people be genuinely interested in you, you need them to want to PROMOTE you. I had an experience when I came across Autotune the News on Techdirt, where I was sending their links to everyone I knew and sitting people down when I had a chance and showing them their videos on my phone or iPad. My project never really reached that level. And I know why. Because I didn’t connect with interested parties properly coupled with a lack of an appetizer. Looking back, it was immensely dumb not to have a way for people who got involved with the project to have the first chapter or so of the book to read and pass around. What did I expect, that they would want to link to my project on their websites or in emails to friends? New business model experiments might interest some, but the writing was supposed to be front and center. I didn’t do a good job of that. I didn’t get the infinite good to promote what I was “selling”.

Lesson 3: There is more to value in a project like this than making money. I got a TON of feedback on my writing. I learned a TON of little lessons from trying this project. Here’s that absolutely awesome part of all this: what have I lost? The simple answer is nothing. I don’t lose my ability to release the book elsewhere. I don’t think I’m going to lose any fans from the people that chose to back the project, since I’m going to be sending them a free copy of the eBook anyway. I don’t lose the opportunity to do what I wanted to do for the project, since I’m going to do it anyway (making a DVD of the settings in the book seems like entirely too much fun not to do, after all, and maybe somebody someday might want it!). Meanwhile, I’ve gained so much in terms of lessons, feedback, interest from an agency and film company, etc. This was a good thing. That it didn’t go as I’d planned means that I have to do something different. I believe in the work, I believe in my fans and potential fans. That means if I tweak some things, it’ll go better next time.

That last little bit is one of the other positive, but unexpected things that came out of this: he was contacted by both a book agent and a film company due to the Kickstarter project, so even if that doesn’t succeed in getting the funding set, it has opened some other potentially interesting doors as well.

Tim’s lessons are really useful ones. We’ve tried to make the point in the past that while we love to point out new and unique business models, the business model alone is not everything. It’s a combination of factors. The content you’re creating has to be good. You have to work hard to build true fans who really believe in what you do (and, as Tim notes, get them to want to promote your work) and that involves really connecting with them. The whole Connect with Fans + Reason to Buy (CwF+RtB) thing may sound flip and simple, but you really do need both components working together, so that they build off of each other. And, on top of all of that you do need a little bit of luck. But that’s also why I talk about the importance of improvisational business modeling. If your first attempts don’t work, that doesn’t mean give up — it means, learn, adjust and try again.

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Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: DH Contacted

Sorry, but no. But, since I mentioned my stupidity at not putting up a sample chapter in the post, I’ve included a link to one below:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/55885300/Midwasteland-Chapter-1

I guess it takes a while for the preview section to come up, but it’s completely free to download, share, whatever you like….

Derek Bredensteiner (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2 DH Contacted

I think a “short story” (or some other such self contained concept) is more likely to get passed around and promote your brand (yourself) than a “sample chapter”. Sample chapter conjures up an image of something incomplete and small which only serves to entice me to purchase the complete book. Short story conjures up an image of self contained which I may or may not enjoy, but at least I won’t be left on the hook to buy something just to figure out what happens.

It’s the difference between offering a complete track and offering up a 10 second complete. Which one is more likely to get shared/promoted/passed around?

Nastybutler77 (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4 DH Contacted

Maybe a sort of prequel short but complete story that takes place in the midwasteland “universe”?

That’s something I’d be more interested in. I agree with Derek B. I’m not that likely to read just one chapter knowing that my two options are buy the whole book, or be left wondering what happened. I’m the sort who will just say “meh” and not bother to get started on that path.

Hephaestus (profile) says:

Its always about only one thing ...

One word implementation. The best idea, the greatest invention, the solution to the worlds energy problems all go no where if the implementation isn’t right. A simple suggestion, contact some people that have been fully funded and as how they did their funding on kickstarter. There is always a learning curve on these things. Give it away and pray, and put it on kickstarter and pray are about the same thing.

Good luck on this

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: Its always about only one thing ...

I agree, actually. Although, I will say I had a plan on how to do this. It just turns out that my plan got a different reaction than I expected. The feedback truly was awesome, though, as is the contact by some folks that might make this and future projects go anyway.

Having said all that, the people that did choose to back me have my ongoing gratitude. Frankly, I’m sending them free PDF eBook copies no matter what. In fact, I’ve already sent out some to show my appreciation….

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Its always about only one thing ...

Well, my chief goal of this whole thing was to get the word out to readers directly about the novel/project. I thought that through an implimentation of my own and others social media, there might be a sort of critical mass reached through this thing. That’s why it was so dumb to not include a sample chapter that people could spread around if they liked it.

What I ended up with instead was two professional groups that were specifically interested in my work, and even more in me personally, simply because I was experimenting. I knew this to some degree already, but literary agents LOVE writers that want to be involved in the marketing side of things. That I was running this experiment was supposedly the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back in getting the agent to dig deeper into my writing….

kyle clements (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2 Its always about only one thing ...

“…literary agents LOVE writers that want to be involved in the marketing side of things. That I was running this experiment was supposedly the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back in getting the agent to dig deeper into my writing…”

Thats quite an interesting statement.

I had always assumed that these agents might feel threatened by business savvy content creators who are willing to put effort into both their art AND sales. It risks making the agent redundant.
I suppose it creates an incentive for them to work harder to promote your material; the flakes are lost without an agent, while for the savvy, an agent is a bonus, a nice-to-have rather than a need-t-have.

To find out that this attitude is actually helpful in winning the attention of agents puts a whole new spin on things.

Now I’m going to have to find out if this translates into the fine-arts world. Can I rise above the flakes?

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Its always about only one thing ...

“Thats quite an interesting statement.”

It surprised me at first as well….

“I had always assumed that these agents might feel threatened by business savvy content creators who are willing to put effort into both their art AND sales. It risks making the agent redundant.”

Actually, in reading up on the literary business, I’ve found that record labels could learn a hell of a lot from literary agents. Agents don’t just promote and submit to publishers. They truly get involved in everything going on with an author’s work. They assist in editing, promoting, submitting, marketing, vision/creative guidance, coordinating appearences and schedules, etc. etc. etc. Particularly for someone who isn’t necessarily doing it full time yet, they really can be key.

“I suppose it creates an incentive for them to work harder to promote your material”

More than that, it creates a partnership. Agents make cuts on author income. To do that, the idea is to get a huge audience, particularly with either multi-book publishing contracts or, even better, movie deals. The more an author is willing to work on the marketing side, particularly in connecting with fans and creating a groundswell, the better.

“Now I’m going to have to find out if this translates into the fine-arts world.”

I’m certainly no wealth of knowledge, but please let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help….

kyle clements (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4 Its always about only one thing ...

I’m certainly no wealth of knowledge, but please let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help….

That quote I mentioned above, along with this quote:

“you have to do your due prep work to make it successful. My audience right now isn’t huge. It might not even be big. I knew that going in. What I know now is that I should have worked my tail off in getting this idea out there enough so that when I did release the project live, it would already have a presence. This go around I tried to do it the opposite way: release the project and hope it builds the bigger audience. That hasn’t worked.”

has given me a fair amount to think about.

I have a fairly big art thing coming up next week, and I’ve approached it with the same assumption you had with your project: the event or product launch will generate a big audience. Hopefully, I’ll still have enough time to build some last-minute hype before launch.

Mojo says:

Re: Re: Its always about only one thing ...

“Having said all that, the people that did choose to back me have my ongoing gratitude. Frankly, I’m sending them free PDF eBook copies no matter what. In fact, I’ve already sent out some to show my appreciation….”

Um, wouldn’t you be sending free copies of your book to the people who backed you anyway? Isn’t that the idea?

Marcel de Jong (profile) says:

On ads

I guess, contextual ads are hard.
I’m getting an ad here for an ABC show that apparently premieres tonight…
ABC is not exactly a station that’s aired in The Netherlands. 🙂
I’m just glad that the sound is default off.

More on topic. I wish Dark Helmet a lot of success in his writing career. And I look forward to the movie. 🙂 Hopefully you’ll give us Techdirt regulars a special viewing, when it comes out? *big grin*
BTW, I guess it’s true what they say, that you learn more when things don’t go as you’d hoped they would go.

weneedhelp (profile) says:

No torrents yet

This document cannot be previewed?

You’re about ready to download “This document cannot be previewed”. Please take a moment to register or log in.

No preview unless I register? No thanks. The interest is there, but I dont want/need another account to keep track of. Dont use docstoc, and dont care to.

It is the near future in a post-apocalyptic Chicago and Anton Donovan is an anomaly. That is, though he appears to be human in every respect, he is actually a mutated version of a human.

Interesting premise.
Is the book finish?
Does it just need to be published?
How about a few free copies for TD readers to read it, and do some promoting?

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: No torrents yet

“Interesting premise.”

Thanks!

“Is the book finish?”

Yes. Has been for a while. To give you an idea of how much I write, I’ll be finishing the next book, not a sequel to Midwasteland, in the next, oh, say two days. Then I edit and figure out what to do with this one. You can read the first chapter on my site, linked in the article above.

“Does it just need to be published?”

Midwasteland is done and ready to go. The only thing that might change in it depends on some of the tiers in the Kickstarter project.

“How about a few free copies for TD readers to read it, and do some promoting?”

Promoting, yes. Free hardcopies are only hard because of the way printing costs work in small quantities. But you know what? Screw it. Techdirt and the community has always been extremely good to me, the funding period is almost over, and since DocStoc has been less than awesome, here’s the whole eBook on Scribd for you to download, share, delete, poop on, whatever you want….

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38346865

Let me know if that one is problematic….

MadderMak (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: No torrents yet

DH – What’s your website… don’t think it was linked anywhere above?

And please tell me you have a donate button?

Going to read your book and if it is to my taste I would like send you what I think fair value to me – direct to your pocket 🙂

Way to stand up for what you beleive in!

Yogi says:

Re: Re: Re:2 No torrents yet

Hey DH,

I’m sorry it hasn’t worked out as you planned. I too am still waiting for that “donate” button and for a revamp of your site.

The site is your calling card and it has to be as cool as your writing is – it still looks like a site my grandmother would use to put up unfocused photographs of her cats…

Have you used Facebook to promote the book? That may help as well as all other social media.

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2 No torrents yet

http://www.conspiracyfiction.blogspot.com

And, as yogi says below, it’s pretty simple as websites go, but I’ve got some new work up there too. And, while Kickstarter isn’t a straight 100%, they don’t take a whole lot.

Having said that, I keep trying to take Yogi’s advice and find a way to add a donate button to my site. Sadly, I am website and HTML stupid, so it hasn’t been easy….

Jon Renaut (profile) says:

Kickstarter is great, but maybe too generic?

In the interest of full disclosure – I have a website I’ve launched and am working to get going that could be described as Kickstarter for authors, minus the publicity and venture capital. So feel free to ignore me if you think I’ve crossed the line between “engaging in discussion” and “pimping my site”.

I think the thing that Kickstarter really lacks that authors really need is the features tailored to selling and publicizing books, and specifically books. There’s not really a community of authors working together to benefit all of the community. There aren’t the features like you see on Amazon, the related books and “people who bought this also bought . . .”. Kickstarter is a really cool site, it’s well done, and they’ve probably done more to get crowdfunding into the mainstream than anyone, but I think too much of the responsibility is still on the author, and the author is still too much alone.

I don’t think too many people browse Kickstarter for authors to support. If you want a book to read, you go to a bookstore or Amazon where there are plenty of books, and plenty of ways for potential readers to be introduced to your stuff because it’s similar to something they knew they were looking for.

All that said, DH, I think it’s great what you’re doing, and appreciate the feedback you’re sharing on how it’s going. You’re on the front end of this kind of model for making a living as a writer, and you not only have to overcome being relatively unknown, but also have to overcome the huge percentage of your potential fans who just don’t understand what you’re doing. Take my mother, for example. She is a voracious reader, but not what you’d call a computer expert. She just bought a Kindle and absolutely loves it. But there is absolutely zero chance that she’d be able to get your book onto her Kindle without me or some other tech support.

Anyway, congratulations on the success. Even if you don’t get funded on Kickstarter, it sounds like you’ve made some good contacts, and you’ve advanced the cause of all your fellow authors.

JustMe (profile) says:

Kickstarter

I’ve helped to fund 8 projects to completion on Kickstarter so far. Most of them are really helping out people who need a leg up, but a few are neat musical or literary projects. They all exceeded their goals with days to spare.

I’m sorry that you didn’t get the interest needed to get funded (although this thread may help). I’d offer some suggestions but I think you pretty much covered the reasons why it went sour on you. When looking at projects I need a compelling reason to drill down to the main page. I like to feel the owner’s passion: maybe a good life story, or a link to some artwork they created for the project, or even just the first chapter.

Grats on the publisher interest. You may also want to look at http://unicornpegasuskitten.com/ from Subterranean Press for another way to crowd-fund a project.

Thanks for the scribd link. What about putting up a PayPal donation link so we can kick a few bucks back?

Free Capitalist (profile) says:

Re: Thank you everyone...

I feel like I missed the DH Unmasked (again) Party.

Interesting… from the looks of your latest post, you are now dabbling in crowdsourcing as well crowdfunding. Very curious to see what comes out of that. (I read the first chapter of Midwasteland some months ago when you put it up on the blog).

Oh, and …
Spielberg

FTFY
Couldn’t resist. 🙂

Free Capitalist (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Thank you everyone...

Not sure if you liked it or not

Yup I definitely liked(and at the time I believe it was still in progress, limited editing). That’s a pretty dark universe you were setting up, so I didn’t come away with a rainbows and butterflies feeling, as you might expect. But now I’ve got to know just how phreaky the mayor’s daughter really is… I’ll be buying your book.

Thanks for sharing!

Karen Seiger (user link) says:

My indieGoGo Project

This piece was really helpful! I chose to work with IndieGoGo.com to fund my project to add videos to my site. I agree that you get out of it what you put into it. And I also agree that there is a whole lot more value than just the funds (although they’re great!). Engaging with my supporters, expanding my network, and getting the word out about my project is hugely valuable too. Plus, with IndieGoGo, I keep the funds I raise, and if I hit my target, it’s only a 4% fee (9% if I don’t hit it).

Check out my project, and fund it to! I only have less than a month to raise $1000!
http://www.indiegogo.com/See-The-Amazing-Markets-of-New-York-City

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