Hadopi Begins Issuing Tens Of Thousands Of 'Notices' For Infringement In France

from the begin-the-takedowns dept

Almost a year after the law officially went into effect, the French Hadopi organization, which is responsible for managing the “three strikes” process to kick file sharers offline after three accusations (not convictions) of unauthorized file sharing, has started sending out notices. Initially, it’s sending out approximately 10,000 per day, with plans to ramp up to 50,000 per day. Already overburdened ISPs will be responsible for handing over the info on those accused within eight days, or they could get fined 1,500 euros per day per IP address. That could add up quickly. Some ISPs have threatened to ignore or fight the demands for info, but it’s unclear if any ISP is willing to stand up to that kind of liability…

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RD says:

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“It will be interesting to see which and what kind of IPs (not addresses) will be favored by hadopi.”

Even better, I Cant wait to see when some of those IP’s turn out to be from ISPs OUTSIDE of France. Should be interesting. Oh and since Sarkozy and his cabinet have been found to be infringing at LEAST four times, does that mean they will get a letter too? hmm whats that you say? Not in this lifetime? Right. One rule for them, one rule for us….

Hephaestus (profile) says:

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“Can’t wait for the inevitable class action law suit. (Do they have those in France?)”

No but they do have the EU courts. Which will smack this down. It will probably end up with internet access becoming a “right” in france. The funny thing is how much attention this is going to generate in europe and the inevitable backlash against IP.

C’est la vie πŸ™‚

Anonymous Coward says:

Considering how essential the Internet has recently become, I think it should be illegal for any government to kick a person offline unless that person is out on parole or under probation. If copyright holders wish to fight copyright infringement, let them bring cases to court. That anybody should ever be forced offline because of Hadopi’s accusations is outrageous and undemocratic.

How long until copyright holders begin to abuse the process by targeting those who engage in fair use? Will the government (or other powerful entities) ever abuse this process to force its critics offline?

Josh Taylor says:

Good Try European Community but 3 strikes are still in ACTA now.

I can see that Saroky disagrees with the EC and going “We have to do what the ACTA treaty says and sign it. And I don’t want to hear any of that ‘No Three Strikes Policy’. No more whining an Anti-ACTA legislation. Sign it or we will be nuked by other countries who agreed to this treaty. Like it or Not. Infringers must be punished.”

Okay, who wants to move to China or Hong Kong?

Anonymous Coward says:

How many of these notices will go to people who never used the filesharing software in question?

For instance, it is well known that some Bittorrent trackers add fake IP addresses to the list of peers they return.

In fact, it would not surprise me at all if some people have already found the IP addresses used by Trident Media Guard and are feeding them fake data.

Not to mention the reaction to the disconnections. If enough people are cut from the Internet, they will form a parallel network, most probably some sort of wireless mesh network.

Anonymous Coward says:

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And I just noticed I missed a fun one: the ISPs have to pay a large fine for every unidentified IP address. But there are IP addresses they cannot identify: addresses which were never allocated to a costumer at all (but were in the list either because of a defect in the data collection or because they were faked by someone else), and IP addresses which were allocated to a costumer but never logged, due do a glitch in the logging system. So they cannot avoid paying large fines daily.

Either the ISPs fight this, or they go bankrupt.

abc gum says:

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If allowed to continue to its natural conclusion, there will be no IP Addr lookup effort as that cost time and money. The process will become much more efficient and since there is no penalty for a wrong result, it will become a selection routine similar to that used by the telemarketers simply going through a sequence of ranges based upon input parameters. You will be a victim sooner or later. The cost in time and money will be more than that of just paying up. Most will give in and then it will become a crime to proclaim ones innocence. Woohoo, I wonder if it will be tax deductable.

Major says:

Meh

Never been fond of my own country and all this BS doesnt help. It’s a bit unnerving that politician seem to obey the wealthy,a bit too similar of what is happening everywhere. Too much for most of us to even bother. Wasting our money to make stupid law seem to be an huge trend these day. Lets hope a country patent stupidity and sue the ass of politician who are doing it worldwide, so they may stiffle politician stupidity innovation… Well i’m off need to buy some baguette to feed my pet frog.

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