French Court Forcing Google To Remove Word 'Scam' From Google Suggest
from the public-interest? dept
Last year we wrote about two contradictory rulings in France involving lawsuits by companies upset about how Google Suggest works. As you probably know, as you type a query into Google, it tries to “suggest” the rest of the query, based on common searches beginning with what you typed. This is all done automatically and is an algorithmic function of what people are actually searching on. The “problem” was that in one case, people were searching for the name of a company, Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance (CNFDI), and one of the most popular searches, meaning one of the suggested searches, was to follow CNFDI with “arnaque,” which means “scam.” In one case, from a company called Direct Energie, the court ruled that it was Google’s fault — and oddly blamed the fact that the results were not alphabetical to suggest Google was at fault. The better ruling came in the CNFDI case where the court pointed out that search engines are “important tools for the free circulation of ideas and information,” and the fact that many people were questioning whether CNFDI was a scam was, in fact, important and potentially useful information, and thus not libelous by itself. It also said that the burden on free speech would be too great if Google were forced to remove the suggestion.
So much for that ruling. Reader Mike Read has sent in the news that an appeals court has reversed the CNFDI ruling and found Google liable. Its reasoning is that Google lets people alert the company to “offensive” terms in Google suggest, and it believes that “scam” is an offensive term. I have to question that logic. If people are legitimately concerned that there are scams going on, why shouldn’t that be expressed?
Filed Under: defamation, france, google suggest, scam
Companies: cnfdi, google
Comments on “French Court Forcing Google To Remove Word 'Scam' From Google Suggest”
everytime someone searchs for "french court system"
show the word scam
I’m honestly starting to feel sorry for Google.
Now they are at fault b/c of what people search for? Question is though, if they turned off the suggestion list in France, and people still searched for CNFDI Scam…would they still be liable?
Is there a legal definition of “offensive” in the French courts? Because if there is, either it is ridiculously broad or this court just ignored it outright.
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Yes, it’s anything that’s from the USA, excluding Jerry Lewis.
So what everyone appears to be saying is that Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance is a scam? That Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance scams users? That Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance are a bunch of scammy scammers perpetrating scams on innocent children? That every person employed with Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance are criminal scammers?
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No. I think it is more like Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance could be considered to be perpetrating scams, or that Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance scams consistently. Possibly even that Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance scam Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance scam scam scam Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance scam.
Not sure though.
man, those french…are some fucked up people. haha, no?
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Oui oui! Paris is the city of love, no? And ze word “scam,” she is not very loving!
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Seriously. If I ran Google, the Belgian (am I remembering that right?) papers would not be indexed, and every instance of “French” would be preceded by a randomly generated adjective selected by those voted on by the community.
tl;dr Frak ’em.
Ridiculous.
Some person/company doesn’t like being associated with a term does not immediately make it “offensive.”
Perhaps the courts should also block “corruption” from suggest, to prevent association of the term with any questionable practices of leaders in the country…
Why
I love that suggest feature, try typing “why” or “why won’t”. 🙂
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OMG that is too funny. I’ll be at this all day.
Why do I?
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Try “I really hope you”
Should they also ban the words “frog” and “defeatist”?
pretty stupid from a French court…
Pull out of France?
Maybe Google should pull out of France too? Maybe all big US internet companies should pull out as France seems to be making a money grab from everyone they can get a hold of.
Re: Pull out of France?
I signed in to say much the same thing, but since it’s already been said I’ll just add my nod of approval. If Google et al simply ‘turned off the taps’ in France, I suspect the French people would convince the government to smarten up really fast.
And France wonders why it’s influence shrinks day by day.
so basically, this company scams people and expects people not to read or hear about and search for it?
maybe they should stop scamming people and suing and actually improve their reputation.
in fact, doesn’t this suit alert more people to their scamming ways?
Can we start a campaign to ensure the top suggestion for “cheese” is “eating surrender monkey” ?
I Wonder if Google isn't shooting themselves in the foot?
Try this one. Pick a religion, and type after it ‘is’.
For example “Mormonism is’. Try Christianity, try Hinduism, try Astrology, try Numerology. Every single one of them gives you some sort of list. Some of the suggestions are rather rude.
Then try ‘Islam is’. You get nothing. Now, you can’t tell me nobody searches for Islam ….
Re: I Wonder if Google isn't shooting themselves in the foot?
now that is interesting.
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Paul. Dude. You’re awesome.
That is even cooler than when typing in “why won’t” ended in “my parakeet eat my diarrhea”. (I’m not kidding.)
I’m going to show everyone this.
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I did…got tons of items
Scamdal
I can’t believe no one has asked this, but…
Is it true that Centre National Prive de Formation a Distance raped and murdered a young girl in 1990? Because people are saying that they heard that somewhere…
Scamdalous!
French Words
Here are some useful French words:
scam – arnaquer, escroquerie (f., colloquial)
offensive – offensif
corrupt – corrompué
ridiculous – ridicule
litigious – litigieux
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