Irony: U2's 'Free' Concert At The Berlin Wall, Blocked By A Big Wall

from the u2,-tear-down-that-wall dept

Dementia writes in to point out the rather ironic situation of a “free” concert put on by the band U2, at the remains of the Berlin Wall in order to celebrate the demise of the wall… but MTV decided to put up a big temporary barrier around the event so those who didn’t have free tickets could not even see the event. Yes, they erected a special “wall” to block out a free concert about The Wall. As Dementia noted with the submission, “you’re doing it wrong…”

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Anonymous Coward says:

MTV was concerned

The “wall” was erected by MTV because they were concerned that fans would rush the fence and crush fans near the stage. Their concern may have been unfounded, and there may have been better ways to have controlled fans (though there are reports that MTV consulted with Berlin police prior to putting up the “wall;” there were concerns that 100,000 non-ticket holders might be in attendance, which would indeed present a significant safety issue for those inside and outside the “wall”), but it is what it is.

Did MTV “do it wrong”? Maybe. With the exception of the fans who came and did not see, and those who wish to make a mountain out of a molehill, U2 fans seemed generally ecstatic. Also, huge screens were erected outside the wall to permit those outside to view the concert, so someone was thinking about those fans too.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: MTV was concerned

The “wall” was erected by MTV because they were concerned that space aliens would rush the fence and crush fans near the stage. Their concern may have been unfounded, and there may have been better ways to have controlled space aliens, but it is what it is.

Did MTV “do it wrong”? Maybe. With the exception of the space aliens who came and did not see, and those who wish to make a mountain out of a molehill, U2 fans seemed generally ecstatic. Also, huge screens were erected outside the wall to permit those space aliens outside to view the concert, so someone was thinking about those fans too.

There. See how easy it is to make up bogus, lame ass, spinmeister excuses?

Dark Helmet (profile) says:

Re: Re: This is what you get...

“Umm. Woodstock was surrounded on all sides by fences in 1969 but within a day, huge holes had been opened up in the perimeter making it impossible to stop in influx of people.”

Yup, lots of others have said that as well, and I would have guessed otherwise based on anectodal stories. But look at what I said: “I don’t recall ever HEARING about walls or fences being put up around Woodstock…”

The point being that even if there were supposed to be fences, Woodstock was successful in some part BECAUSE it ended up being open. That’s how those of us too young to have actually gone get it fed to us by those that did.

Pwdrskir (profile) says:

Wall envy

I attended the original Wall concert back in 1990 and the crowd was very tame. I had a ticket and was within 75 yds of the front of the stage and there was no rushing and pushing like I’ve experience at concerts in the US. Granted, the crowd without tickets gathered outside the fence eventually pushed the fence down, but there was still no pushing and they just queued up straight back from the stage. It was estimated there were 500,000 people there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1990-0722-402,_Berlin,_Auff%C3%BChrung_der_Rockoper_%22The_Wall%22.jpg

Now, trying to get food at the Zoo station McDonald’s after the concert was quite a different story…

Anonymous Coward says:

“I don’t recall ever hearing about walls or fences being put up around Woodstock…”

Woodstock was originally for money. It had a fence. The promoters expected 10 to maybe 50K people. Profit was the motive, from tickets food & beverages sales. The fences didn’t last long when the huge crowd showed up.

Chances are U2’s fence didn’t last either.

JGM says:

Har har. Irony. Of course if a few dozen kids had gotten crushed to death, *none* of the snark-bloggers would have made bitter jokes, because they would have recognized that proper crowd-control would have meant an ironic restriction on “freedom”.

Those of us old enough to remember the days of “festival seating” (another form of “freedom”) know better.

JGM says:

Re: Re: Re:

That’s why I said “another form”. Rather than “why should the show be restricted to those with tickets” it was “why should the best seats be restricted to those with the best tickets” (ie. “freedom” to sit where you want).

Similar ironic commentary — “rock and roll is about freedom, man, don’t tell me where to sit” — came out around the time festival seating was going away; it took a disaster (see http://www.crowdsafe.com/taskrpt/ ) to kill the approach for good.

JGM says:

Re: Re: Re: Re:

Ah. I only saw a few bits of Live8 that I downl. . ., I mean, ran across here and there.

My (fair-use! personal!) VHS from the original Live Aid broadcast also featured way too many VJ shots, though.

Anyway, reading further down the comments, it appears that this whole item is (another) overblown re-blog of a story that is too good not to pass on, facts aside.

Jamie Martin (user link) says:

A little research could have been done

From reddit:

Thank you for being reasonable. I just came back from the concert, I didn’t have a ticket, but I still managed a good view. Just before the concert started, they started letting other people into the concert area as space allowed. The “wall”, by the way, was just a wire fence. The area blocked off was just small area on the side of Pariser Platz. Even if they hadn’t fenced off this area, it would have only extended the concert space by about 15 feet on either side. Then you run into really massive and permanent walls along the side of Pariser Platz called “buildings” and they’re not gonna budge.
tl;dr … this article smells

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/a1byd/mtv_erects_wall_to_block_view_of_u2s_free_concert/c0fea94

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: A little research could have been done

I wonder who we can trust more, the AP writer who reported that there was a large white tarp over the fence to keep outsiders from seeing in, or anonymous reddit commenter motox004 who said there wasn’t. For some reason, I’m inclined to trust the anonymous commenter in this case, although the AP did also say that “some fans already were trying to tear down the tarp before the concert.” Maybe they succeeded?

RFWoodstock (user link) says:

The Wall was WRONG

How utterly insensitive of MTV. A WALL TO CELEBRATE THE END OF THE HATED BERLIN WALL!!!!!

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Listen to RADIO WOODSTOCK 69 which features only music from the original Woodstock era (1967-1971) and RADIO WOODSTOCK with music from the original Woodstock era to today’s artists who reflect the spirit of Woodstock. Watch Woodstock TV.

Go to http://www.woodstockuniverse.com for details and to join our Woodstock Universe online community.

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