In the WP article, at the very end, you'll find these statements:
Thomas said officials need to strike a balance between the needs of law enforcement and those of the technology companies.
“You want to give law enforcement the ability to have the data they’re legally entitled to get, at the same time not burdening industry and not opening up security holes,” he said.
I bolded the part that I shouldn't be sickened by, but am. I want to yell at this fucker and tell him he's leaving out a really big critically important part of the balancing, and that's the GODDAMNED PRIVACY OF CITIZENS. It's really disgusting that this gets so fucking lost.
I want some damned statistics that show how many crimes they solve prevent SOLELY because of all this data that they gather. The assumption that I currently run with is pretty close to fucking zero (except where they exploit people and push them into crimes they would never commit on their own). It sure seems like most crimes nowadays are still solved the old-fashioned way. WORKING IT.
However, like Righthaven before, I suspect another group is forming to do something similar as we speak. There is no shortage of fraudsters and con artists.
As with CISPA and SOPA however, it is the duty of the public to keep themselves as aware as possible about these issues, and ensure they are handled appropriately. Public engagement in these things hopefully will help begin to swing the pendulum the other way.
I don't see a conspiracy here beyond the Prenda group yet. As I'm sure everyone on the internet believes, sheer, rampant, complete stupidity knows no bounds.
As a dis-corporeal entity, he was only required to be present in spirit. If you attended the same law schools as Steel & Hansmeier, this would be as obvious to you as it was to them. Indeed, I'm starting to think THEY don't actually exist either.
Honestly, how good is the law school that Steele went to? I mean, most of my pot-addled friends could tell you that leaving threatening voice mails is a sure-fire way to seriously screw over any remaining goodwill a judge may have for you. For an ATTORNEY to do that, displays not only incompetence, but a complete and total absence of intellect and tact (not that we had much evidence of either to be sure).
I think that this will figure fairly prominently in the coming decision, and I eagerly anticipate it.
I think the bench warrant threat was specific only to attorney Gibbs. I do not think however that the judge was that surprised, and to be honest, the more they screw up, the better for the rest of us. Better entertainment, better precedent.
Eh, I already used Schadenfreude this last weekend expressing myself over the Simcity 2013 launch fail. You're point is well taken though. It is extremely pleasing to finally see ONE of these trolls taken to task.
Admittedly it is probably the group currently the most incompetent and public, but I hope to see others scared off because of this.
your penis with a app on a device called Palm? Since when did anyone need to pay anything to use their Palm on their penis? What makes Chubby think checking your penis with your palm is something that he should be paid for? Usually the payment goes the other way.
...that keeps on giving, is not a free one year subscription to the jelly of the month club, it is ignorant morons on the internet fighting to prove to the world they know more than everyone else, yet succeeding in proving the exact opposite.
Well, how many smart phones are running around in pockets in that school? I can't think of any smart phone that doesn't include WiFi as part of the device. How about the computers? Unless they disable WiFi cards in them, they're constantly searching for networks as well. How about the neighborhood nearby, the local coffee shops. These idiot parents and vastly more idiotic journalists are far more consistently exposed to WiFi on a daily basis then they probably know!
According to her personal website (teribuhl.com/about), she was an investigative financial journalist at some point. Noting her complete lack of both understanding copyright, libel/defamation law, or to be sure, journalistic integrity in general (read the story from 2010 about what she did to get charges laid against her), it seriously calls into question the vetting capabilities of the "respected" financial publications she wrote for (e.g. Forbes, NY Post, Fortune, some others on her personal site). She apparently is only truly skilled at investigating the drawers in a 17 yr old girls room and photocopying her personal journal and posting it to a fake facebook account (the girl btw was the daughter of an ex).
The Prenda show notwithstanding, this has got to be the best entertainment currently available on techdirt. Keep it coming Teri, hope to you see you co-star in Dumb & Dumberer 4!
Anderson, IN is about 20 minutes from where I live, and in a little town between mine and Anderson, is an AppleCare technical support center (not owned by Apple, 3rd party supporting Apple products). They are one of the largest employers in the county, so basically everyone in the area knows it exists. Maybe the school there should utilize that expertise and find out what the hell they are talking about before they go off an destroy students' lives. FFS this is stupidity on a level I find incredibly appalling.
but I can't help wondering (and Juhani, since I see you watched this thread I'm not actually asking you, that would be far too intrusive), if this is actually structured like music contracts. Do any lawyer fees the publisher pays have to be repaid out of any advance he was given? If so, this only gives those representing the publisher every incentive to to find every reason to bill a few more hours here and there. It doesn't come out of their clients pockets ultimately...
Doesn't do very good box office? Have been getting into Jay's secret stash?
Clerks: Budget $257,000 (total budget), Revenue: $3,151,130
Chasing Amy: Budget $250,000, Revenue $12,021,272
Dogma: Budget $10,000,000, Revenue 30,652,890
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back: Budget $22,000,000 Revenue: 33,788,161
Clerks II: $5,000,000, Revenue 26,983,776
Zack and Miri Make a Porno: Budget $24,000,000 Revenue 42,105,111
(boxofficemojo.com for the source on the receipts)
Note, the 2 that lost money or made little (Mallrats and Jersey Girl), had people other than Kevin Smith or Scott Mosier producing the film.
For an independent film maker, he's done surprisingly and fairly consistently well. I think I'll believe he understands a lot more about what he's doing than you do.
Doesn't do very good box office? Have been getting into Jay's secret stash?
Clerks: Budget $257,000 (total budget), Revenue: $3,151,130
Chasing Amy: Budget $250,000, Revenue $12,021,272
Dogma: Budget $10,000,000, Revenue 30,652,890
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back: Budget $22,000,000 Revenue: 33,788,161
Clerks II: $5,000,000, Revenue 26,983,776
Zack and Miri Make a Porno: Budget $24,000,000
(boxofficemojo.com for the source on the receipts)
Note, the 2 that lost money or made little (Mallrats and Jersey Girl), had people other than Kevin Smith or Scott Mosier producing the film.
For an independent film maker, he's done surprisingly and fairly consistently well. I think I'll believe he understands a lot more about what he's doing than you do.
(untitled comment)
In the WP article, at the very end, you'll find these statements:
I bolded the part that I shouldn't be sickened by, but am. I want to yell at this fucker and tell him he's leaving out a really big critically important part of the balancing, and that's the GODDAMNED PRIVACY OF CITIZENS. It's really disgusting that this gets so fucking lost.
I want some damned statistics that show how many crimes they solve prevent SOLELY because of all this data that they gather. The assumption that I currently run with is pretty close to fucking zero (except where they exploit people and push them into crimes they would never commit on their own). It sure seems like most crimes nowadays are still solved the old-fashioned way. WORKING IT.
Re:
Wish I could vote for that as funny about 200 times.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Been waiting all day...
However, like Righthaven before, I suspect another group is forming to do something similar as we speak. There is no shortage of fraudsters and con artists.
As with CISPA and SOPA however, it is the duty of the public to keep themselves as aware as possible about these issues, and ensure they are handled appropriately. Public engagement in these things hopefully will help begin to swing the pendulum the other way.
Re: Re: Time to come clean
I don't see a conspiracy here beyond the Prenda group yet. As I'm sure everyone on the internet believes, sheer, rampant, complete stupidity knows no bounds.
Re: What did CEO-Cooper say?
As a dis-corporeal entity, he was only required to be present in spirit. If you attended the same law schools as Steel & Hansmeier, this would be as obvious to you as it was to them. Indeed, I'm starting to think THEY don't actually exist either.
Sheer, complete idiocy
Honestly, how good is the law school that Steele went to? I mean, most of my pot-addled friends could tell you that leaving threatening voice mails is a sure-fire way to seriously screw over any remaining goodwill a judge may have for you. For an ATTORNEY to do that, displays not only incompetence, but a complete and total absence of intellect and tact (not that we had much evidence of either to be sure).
I think that this will figure fairly prominently in the coming decision, and I eagerly anticipate it.
Re:
I think the bench warrant threat was specific only to attorney Gibbs. I do not think however that the judge was that surprised, and to be honest, the more they screw up, the better for the rest of us. Better entertainment, better precedent.
Re: Re: Been waiting all day...
Eh, I already used Schadenfreude this last weekend expressing myself over the Simcity 2013 launch fail. You're point is well taken though. It is extremely pleasing to finally see ONE of these trolls taken to task.
Admittedly it is probably the group currently the most incompetent and public, but I hope to see others scared off because of this.
Been waiting all day...
...to hear about this. Fantastic write-up from Ken @ popehat. Now I'm in complete suspense waiting for the order from the Judge.
As a side note, anyone else think this is like lawyer porn? You know someone is going to get completely and ruthlessly fucked in this case.
Measuring...
your penis with a app on a device called Palm? Since when did anyone need to pay anything to use their Palm on their penis? What makes Chubby think checking your penis with your palm is something that he should be paid for? Usually the payment goes the other way.
Three words
What a douche.
The Gift
...that keeps on giving, is not a free one year subscription to the jelly of the month club, it is ignorant morons on the internet fighting to prove to the world they know more than everyone else, yet succeeding in proving the exact opposite.
Re:
Well, how many smart phones are running around in pockets in that school? I can't think of any smart phone that doesn't include WiFi as part of the device. How about the computers? Unless they disable WiFi cards in them, they're constantly searching for networks as well. How about the neighborhood nearby, the local coffee shops. These idiot parents and vastly more idiotic journalists are far more consistently exposed to WiFi on a daily basis then they probably know!
Re:
According to her personal website (teribuhl.com/about), she was an investigative financial journalist at some point. Noting her complete lack of both understanding copyright, libel/defamation law, or to be sure, journalistic integrity in general (read the story from 2010 about what she did to get charges laid against her), it seriously calls into question the vetting capabilities of the "respected" financial publications she wrote for (e.g. Forbes, NY Post, Fortune, some others on her personal site). She apparently is only truly skilled at investigating the drawers in a 17 yr old girls room and photocopying her personal journal and posting it to a fake facebook account (the girl btw was the daughter of an ex).
Re:
I can only hope that there's another hissyfit. This is absolutely hilarious.
Keep it coming
The Prenda show notwithstanding, this has got to be the best entertainment currently available on techdirt. Keep it coming Teri, hope to you see you co-star in Dumb & Dumberer 4!
So check this out
Anderson, IN is about 20 minutes from where I live, and in a little town between mine and Anderson, is an AppleCare technical support center (not owned by Apple, 3rd party supporting Apple products). They are one of the largest employers in the county, so basically everyone in the area knows it exists. Maybe the school there should utilize that expertise and find out what the hell they are talking about before they go off an destroy students' lives. FFS this is stupidity on a level I find incredibly appalling.
....I'm probably too cynical (as Riggs)
but I can't help wondering (and Juhani, since I see you watched this thread I'm not actually asking you, that would be far too intrusive), if this is actually structured like music contracts. Do any lawyer fees the publisher pays have to be repaid out of any advance he was given? If so, this only gives those representing the publisher every incentive to to find every reason to bill a few more hours here and there. It doesn't come out of their clients pockets ultimately...
Re: Re: (as Tim R.)
Doesn't do very good box office? Have been getting into Jay's secret stash?
Clerks: Budget $257,000 (total budget), Revenue: $3,151,130
Chasing Amy: Budget $250,000, Revenue $12,021,272
Dogma: Budget $10,000,000, Revenue 30,652,890
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back: Budget $22,000,000 Revenue: 33,788,161
Clerks II: $5,000,000, Revenue 26,983,776
Zack and Miri Make a Porno: Budget $24,000,000 Revenue 42,105,111
(boxofficemojo.com for the source on the receipts)
Note, the 2 that lost money or made little (Mallrats and Jersey Girl), had people other than Kevin Smith or Scott Mosier producing the film.
For an independent film maker, he's done surprisingly and fairly consistently well. I think I'll believe he understands a lot more about what he's doing than you do.
Re: (as Tim R.)
Doesn't do very good box office? Have been getting into Jay's secret stash?
Clerks: Budget $257,000 (total budget), Revenue: $3,151,130
Chasing Amy: Budget $250,000, Revenue $12,021,272
Dogma: Budget $10,000,000, Revenue 30,652,890
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back: Budget $22,000,000 Revenue: 33,788,161
Clerks II: $5,000,000, Revenue 26,983,776
Zack and Miri Make a Porno: Budget $24,000,000
(boxofficemojo.com for the source on the receipts)
Note, the 2 that lost money or made little (Mallrats and Jersey Girl), had people other than Kevin Smith or Scott Mosier producing the film.
For an independent film maker, he's done surprisingly and fairly consistently well. I think I'll believe he understands a lot more about what he's doing than you do.