They have to prove to made that much was made which they are simply not equipped to do.
The average ID scam investigation nets money and facts but very little to show how much.
My statement was based on information I have from a 20k user breach that was not reported and therefore I can not provide details. But it did happen and I did clean it up, but I can only say that the victims lost on average $10.
Wow, I am shocked that TechDirt commenters fail to see the same kind of actions from the left as they are so quick to point out from the right.
BO has increased the Debt faster than Bush did. Has added more powers to the Homeland Security fiasco than Bush did. Passed Healthcare legislation that will cost $39k plus per person covered more than twice what was stated.
Oh, man I am not going to do this. I am not going to spend hours listing all of what Bush Jr did and compare it to BO.
So all I am going to say is if you think BO is better than Bush Jr. than you are woefully lacking in accurate, unbiased knowledge.
One last comment. BO is as influenced by his handlers (different flavor, same ice cream) as Bush Jr. was. BO is responsible for the economy 3.5 years in, stop blaming Bush Jr.
I quote "ethics is a soft target and of all the reasons we choose to do something right or wrong it is the least influential because it is the most referential."
Read the info at the link. Corporations are corrupted by the confines of their perspective.
Generally, we look to these kinds of offenses as a problem with the gov't. But there are individuals behind these actions and they need to be held accountable for their actions. Just as a police officer would be held accountable for beating a person that did nothing.
Voted Insightful even though I know that your comment will not be seen in the proper light it should be.
Regardless of the actual reward, someone, somewhere, at sometime needs to sue because if there is no consequence for doing the wrong thing then the gov't will feel no need to stop their actions no matter how unfounded or unwarranted.
Thought experiment: If I know that the worst that will happen to me is a $10,000 fine and 1 year in jail for stealing 50,000 people's identities and making 10 dollars on each then I understand good economic principals. Because I made $490,000 for one year of my life. Not bad pay if you can get it.
Worst than that is if I know that I can get paid for doing nothing while harming (costing a lot money) another entity and there is zero consequence. Which is what I.C.E. views this whole case as being.
Oops, sorry. Here is your livelihood back. Here is Harm, but no foul.
Everybody has a sense of ethics. Even corporations as they are run by people. But ethics is a soft target and of all the reasons we choose to do something right or wrong it is the least influential because it is the most referential. It is based on your frame of reference. Your perspective.
If your perspective involves seeing what other companies (people) are doing and are able to do then your "ethics" are going see it as acceptable when you do as your peers are doing. I can show you proof after proof that ethics can be distorted in this way but I will just give you one landmark study that gives a good summation of my point.
To your statement "Eh, I was called a fascist for saying that piracy was as much an economics issue as a content issue." by someone that is uninformed.
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Yep, after you told her about it.
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So what does the average user do to fix this issue? I bet 90% of the internet users would have no clue on how to block ads.
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Sorry, check your facts with the CBO. Even with their biased analysis they prove my point and actually show worse than I stated.
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They have to prove to made that much was made which they are simply not equipped to do.
The average ID scam investigation nets money and facts but very little to show how much.
My statement was based on information I have from a 20k user breach that was not reported and therefore I can not provide details. But it did happen and I did clean it up, but I can only say that the victims lost on average $10.
Re: Re: Stock traders know the truth.
HOLY SH!T. I love that site. But of course I am now going to throw up the last 4 days of food.
Re: Re: What exactly is a Rogue Site?
Exactly
Re: Re: Re: Wasted time
hehe Time is not wasted if it educates one person
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Very good points and I have seen this happen. You toe the line of good articles or you are on the outs.
Stock traders know the truth.
Buy the rumor, sell the news. Same here.
Seems like the calls for lose pays should be stronger...
Simple question: Why are not more companies spending their lobbying dollars to get a loser pays scheme implemented? Seems like good business sense.
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Wow, I am shocked that TechDirt commenters fail to see the same kind of actions from the left as they are so quick to point out from the right.
BO has increased the Debt faster than Bush did. Has added more powers to the Homeland Security fiasco than Bush did. Passed Healthcare legislation that will cost $39k plus per person covered more than twice what was stated.
Oh, man I am not going to do this. I am not going to spend hours listing all of what Bush Jr did and compare it to BO.
So all I am going to say is if you think BO is better than Bush Jr. than you are woefully lacking in accurate, unbiased knowledge.
One last comment. BO is as influenced by his handlers (different flavor, same ice cream) as Bush Jr. was. BO is responsible for the economy 3.5 years in, stop blaming Bush Jr.
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I quote "ethics is a soft target and of all the reasons we choose to do something right or wrong it is the least influential because it is the most referential."
Read the info at the link. Corporations are corrupted by the confines of their perspective.
Re: Re: This myth was busted.
Chicken and egg. The FCC banned it first and the FAA followed that recommendation.
If you really want to dig in to the details look too the ieee.org report on the whole process.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/aviation/unsafe-at-any-airspeed/0
Re: Who is to blame?
Jeremy, That is a great point!
Generally, we look to these kinds of offenses as a problem with the gov't. But there are individuals behind these actions and they need to be held accountable for their actions. Just as a police officer would be held accountable for beating a person that did nothing.
Voted Insightful even though I know that your comment will not be seen in the proper light it should be.
Internet Marketing Best Practices 101:
1. Don't allow your ads to show on websites where your potential customers are not going to view them.
2. The websites your ads show on should be relevant to the message and audience you want to target.
3. Spend your marketing dollars where they are most effective. Rogue sites are just where the most money is spent. Right?
Seems like the view that marketers would advertise on 'Rogue' sites does not make a lot of dollars and cents.
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Maybe the EFF could help them?
Regardless of the actual reward, someone, somewhere, at sometime needs to sue because if there is no consequence for doing the wrong thing then the gov't will feel no need to stop their actions no matter how unfounded or unwarranted.
Thought experiment: If I know that the worst that will happen to me is a $10,000 fine and 1 year in jail for stealing 50,000 people's identities and making 10 dollars on each then I understand good economic principals. Because I made $490,000 for one year of my life. Not bad pay if you can get it.
Worst than that is if I know that I can get paid for doing nothing while harming (costing a lot money) another entity and there is zero consequence. Which is what I.C.E. views this whole case as being.
Oops, sorry. Here is your livelihood back. Here is Harm, but no foul.
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Thanks Mike! That is 100% true. The 'list' is opinion but it does match very well with reality. Which is why I quoted it.
The 'list' has been quoted many times by other blogs/pseudo-news sites and I felt that the content even forgiving the source was valid to the article.
I will accept the blame for not being more clear on that point.
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> This is one of a handful of extremely strong reasons that
> we need to get the governement completely out of business.
FTFYx2
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Everybody has a sense of ethics. Even corporations as they are run by people. But ethics is a soft target and of all the reasons we choose to do something right or wrong it is the least influential because it is the most referential. It is based on your frame of reference. Your perspective.
If your perspective involves seeing what other companies (people) are doing and are able to do then your "ethics" are going see it as acceptable when you do as your peers are doing. I can show you proof after proof that ethics can be distorted in this way but I will just give you one landmark study that gives a good summation of my point.
Even good people can do bad.
http://www.prisonexp.org/
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You forgot to add:
To your statement "Eh, I was called a fascist for saying that piracy was as much an economics issue as a content issue." by someone that is uninformed.