Except that most of the free software I use isn't ad-driven. Certainly, Open Office, Paint.Net, and Inkscape aren't adware.
I was more referencing Google's own apps: GMail, Google Docs, Youtube, etc. They're free (well, unless you have a paid business account). This isn't done out of the goodness of Google's heart.
My thinking is that the real reason Android is free is because its developers wanted to use Linux as a base. That pretty much forced them to continue under the GPL.
Not necessarily. As a counter-example, think of webOS, which, while it was still active, was my preferred mobile OS: used Linux, not free, and much of it wasn't open source. Fairly open? Sure: look at how active, even today, the modding community is with webOS, and Open webOS is helping continue it. Running Linux, though, didn't force Palm or HP to give away webOS for free, though.
And quite frankly, I'm glad they did. There's been a lot of stuff that free Android has made possible that would have been a lot more difficult, if not impossible without it: stuff that has nothing to do with Google or even mobile phones.
>>That's the real issue here: free software isn't always or even usually as good as the paid-for alternatives, yet people use free stuff because it's good enough.
Something I've read elsewhere springs to mind: if the product you're using was given to you for free, you're not the customer, you're the product.
That's largely been my distaste with Android in general, and ad-driven software in particular. Unfortunately, ad-driven software on smartphones is starting to become the norm, and Android has become such a "default" in the industry it's hard to go with the competitors (other than Apple's "walled garden", where the fact that you're a product is just as apparent).
It's worth than that: reading OOTB's blog while believing in copyright sanity would violate his blog's terms of service, opening you up to federal charges under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, unless you live under the 9th Circuit Court's jurisdiction.
They realize. They just don't care. After all, they can enlist the Department of Homeland Security to go after pirates, or get extortionist settlements by threatening life-destroying lawsuits?
...it's about making it look like you made a "good faith effort", when you're engineering it to fail, then writing off the loss on your taxes, insisting piracy (instead of lack of a compelling product) is the problem, and then insisting on more legislation to put the actually successful streaming services under, and propping up your old business model.
>>If you borrow from a legitimate library, you are borrowing a copy IT bought legitimately
Correct so far.
This is why you fail:
>>Lendink was properly notified by rights holders that they did not consent to having their books on the site. Therefore those books were indeed pirated.
The books weren't on LendInk's site. People were on LendInk's site, stating they had a book available to lend. The site then puts the person wanting to borrow that book in touch with the person wanting to lend that book.
From there, the lender goes to Amazon or Barnes & Noble, and uses the already-existing tools each retailer has to lend the book.
At no time does a copy of the ebook exist on LendInk's site. No copy of the book is pirated.
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Yeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhh....
Re: Re: Re: Wait, what?
I had it preloaded on both my Samsung Galaxy Nexus phone and my Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 tablet. I suspect plenty of other phones had it preloaded, too.
Re: Wait, what?
Hangouts replaces Talk, which is a preloaded app, which is how AT&T is making the claim it's preloaded.
As a San Diegan, all i can say is...
"You stay classy, San Diego!"
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Except that most of the free software I use isn't ad-driven. Certainly, Open Office, Paint.Net, and Inkscape aren't adware.
I was more referencing Google's own apps: GMail, Google Docs, Youtube, etc. They're free (well, unless you have a paid business account). This isn't done out of the goodness of Google's heart.
My thinking is that the real reason Android is free is because its developers wanted to use Linux as a base. That pretty much forced them to continue under the GPL.
Not necessarily. As a counter-example, think of webOS, which, while it was still active, was my preferred mobile OS: used Linux, not free, and much of it wasn't open source. Fairly open? Sure: look at how active, even today, the modding community is with webOS, and Open webOS is helping continue it. Running Linux, though, didn't force Palm or HP to give away webOS for free, though.
And quite frankly, I'm glad they did. There's been a lot of stuff that free Android has made possible that would have been a lot more difficult, if not impossible without it: stuff that has nothing to do with Google or even mobile phones.
I'll agree with that.
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>>That's the real issue here: free software isn't always or even usually as good as the paid-for alternatives, yet people use free stuff because it's good enough.
Something I've read elsewhere springs to mind: if the product you're using was given to you for free, you're not the customer, you're the product.
That's largely been my distaste with Android in general, and ad-driven software in particular. Unfortunately, ad-driven software on smartphones is starting to become the norm, and Android has become such a "default" in the industry it's hard to go with the competitors (other than Apple's "walled garden", where the fact that you're a product is just as apparent).
Re: Re: Re: You keep mistaking what sue-crazy lawyers do with copyright.
It's worth than that: reading OOTB's blog while believing in copyright sanity would violate his blog's terms of service, opening you up to federal charges under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, unless you live under the 9th Circuit Court's jurisdiction.
Re: The top comment is shit
"Lighten up, Francis"
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: It isn't about succeeding...
I don't know if I'd compare it to the Edsel. The Edsel actually had redeeming features. Warner Brothers' plan doesn't.
That said, I prefer the Corvair to the Edsel.
Response to: Zakida Paul on Apr 4th, 2013 @ 9:27am
They realize. They just don't care. After all, they can enlist the Department of Homeland Security to go after pirates, or get extortionist settlements by threatening life-destroying lawsuits?
It isn't about succeeding...
...it's about making it look like you made a "good faith effort", when you're engineering it to fail, then writing off the loss on your taxes, insisting piracy (instead of lack of a compelling product) is the problem, and then insisting on more legislation to put the actually successful streaming services under, and propping up your old business model.
Re: Re: Re: Lendink was not a pirate site
@Greg
>>If you borrow from a legitimate library, you are borrowing a copy IT bought legitimately
Correct so far.
This is why you fail:
>>Lendink was properly notified by rights holders that they did not consent to having their books on the site. Therefore those books were indeed pirated.
The books weren't on LendInk's site. People were on LendInk's site, stating they had a book available to lend. The site then puts the person wanting to borrow that book in touch with the person wanting to lend that book.
From there, the lender goes to Amazon or Barnes & Noble, and uses the already-existing tools each retailer has to lend the book.
At no time does a copy of the ebook exist on LendInk's site. No copy of the book is pirated.