When you were a kid just starting school and as you progressed in those first few years we were always taught that the Policeman was our friend and was their to help us.
Now more than ever nowadays it seems the opposite when you have cases like this where due process is out the window and your right matter not one iota.
It seems now that covering up police misdeeds and the blue wall of silence are at the forefront. This is the reality. The bad thing is that the Policeman's word carries more weight with the court than some average joe and even more so if you have any kind of a criminal record.
If it wasn't for cameras recording and these types of events being reported , the average joe wouldn't even have a chance.
The mere fact that they will charge you (whether you are guilty or not) is a travesty in itself as the mantra now seems to be we will charge them and make the story fir to the event innocent or not.
It is almost now if you call the Police you had better have someone recording it for YOUR safety and security otherwise you could be behind bars.
I guess teh old days where the police were proud and had integrity is long gone, and you wonder why people have a distrust for the police.... events like this are why.
And you wonder why people don't trust the U.S. Government including it's own citizens.
The U.S. Government just gave the FISA court justices and the court system in general the finger.
The U.S. Government is basically saying we wan't to have blanket authority to do what we will and we will not reveal our methods or the reasons behind them, even if we are told to do so in a court of law.
The Government and it's Justice Department along with the Intelligence agencies have run amok and seem to be beyond control of anyone and seem to answer to no one.
Hansmeier dismissed these due to the fact that this lady had no idea she was involved in a lawsuit (now doesn't that seem familiar...hello, calling Allen Cooper).
I am sure any defense lawyer worth his money would have fact checked Hansmeier's so called "client" and then realized who Hansmeier was and I am sure they would have mentioned Prenda Law to the Judge and that would have been game over right there.
Never mind the fact that Flint Million one was suspicious enough to raise people to want to look at Hansmeiers filing. I have doubts that Hansmeier is doing this alone I am sure Steele is involved as well.
Considering there porn trolling days are dead in the water, and how addicted they are to getting easy cash through settlements, I see them both neck deep involved in the next thing to keep the gravy train rolling.
I highly doubt that Hansmeier thought that his ADA lawsuits would make the media but now that they have and his claasjustice firm has had the light shone on it, I would be of the opinion he is going to have a tough time in the ADA lawsuit game.
I wonder how long it will be till Mark Lutz or Paul's pet cat starts being named as clients he will be suing on behalf of.
Same with the Allen Mooney connection, does anyone believe that it was really Allen Mooney on the line talking to Lily Poss or are some of us wondering if that isn't John Steele doing some calling like he did with GoDaddy.
I have to wonder if Paul is taking the old Prenda strategy to heart, that if you can';t find a client you just manufacture one to suit your needs.
Sure seem like this is what occurred, Hansmeier got scared enough to dismiss these suits before a judge or defense counsel brought it to the courts attention
Lol The twisted loguic of the Prenda gang. You are sittying there and talking about the ISP shielding pirates? Deny, Deflect, Delay... the Prenda mantra.
The ISP's want their money and rightfully so due to the legal expenses they occured in fighting to not have to turn over this information because You and Hnasmeier decided to sue for subscribers information to keep the extorion-er- I mean settlements coming.
You and Hansmeier are the ones who brought the ISP's into this and they have occured expense fighting this and they are entitled to have their fees paid by Prenda and yourselves.
Trying to make your self and Hansmeuier out as sojme saviours and martyrs of copyright justic is beyond laughable given the numerous cpourt proceeding where wrong doing has been found in Prenda cases.
John, Your no more a victim here than Hansmeier is and to play it off as such is beyond laughable. What about all the people you sued that didn't infirnge or steal anything that settled out of not being able to afford to mount a defense.
What about those you threatend and bullied with phone calls and letters and intimidation tactics like telling them that they could be liable for tens of thousands of dollars if they didn't settle now.
The only thimng your a victim of is the fact that your scheme has blown up in your face, and your facing a possible RICO indictment and Tax Evasion charges at some point.
Now you guys cry poverty and the "it wasn't me" defense, but I guess when that $1.9 Mil was rolling in your weren't feeling too sorry about yourself.
You two are the authors of your own demise, you created the circumstances you find yourself in becausae of pure greed, not because you were out there saving copyrigted works from being pirated.
This has ajnd never will be about copyright abuse, this is about a litigation scheme to extort people for money by fraudlent means.
Yes porn producers can be scummy, but the mere fact that some porn producers you were working with thought something shady was going ojn and wanted out speaks volume about how even they wanted out before they were sharing a cell with you.
So Please John, next time you felll so unappreciated, just go and get a big old cross you can drag behind you for all your sacrifices you have made.
Let me guess, some of these people Hansmeier is suing on behalf of groomed his dog, or cleaned his house or office, or were maybe a childhood neighbor.
I would say it was one of his invisible friends from childhood, but I doubt that even his invisible friends would want to be connected to Hansmeier and all the baggage he has with him after the Prenda saga.
Obviously Hansmeier is addicted to making the easy money, He isn't interesting in doing what other lawyers do which is actually use your practice and help people in the process.
Hansmeier like Steele is motivated by greed and easy money. This was the case with the AF Holdings cases and with the class action objection cases and now with these DA cases (and I use the word cases as an example, feel free to use the word shakedown or extort if you so choose)
Paul obviously has learned nothing from the various rulings against him and Steele and Prenda and the various sanctions that are coming his way.
Further to that you have the multiple bar discipline referrals coming as of yet. Could this be a desperate last gasp to grab as much cash now while he still has a bar# to practice with, maybe so.
I imagine Paul knows the clock is ticking before those footsteps in the night that wake him out of his sleep and sends him racing to the window to see if it is the FBI coming to collect him for RICO and tax evasion seem much too real, and one day they will be.
Paul is making the desperate grab for cash before Duffy flips like Gibbs did, and that Mark Lutz would love to do if it wasn't for Steele holding his feet to the fire.
The revenue form Porn litigation is dead in the water, any court that even hears the mere mention of Paul Hansmeier, John Steele or Paul Duffy and Prenda Law come up in a case is going to see off reminders of Judge Wright's ruling and the Judge throwing some serious side eye towards any litigation initiated by any of those three.
We all know Paul and John will never return to practice like a normal would after set backs like these, they are too addicted to getting easy cash.
Hansmeier and Steele will live on and so will their legacy as famous porn trollers in ethics classes around the U.S. as an example of how to know when you have crossed that line in your obligations to your oath as an officer of the court and your profession.
They are really nothing more than a punch line that other Lawyers use around the water cooler. I am sure lawyers they use to see in the courthouse halls used to say hello before the Prenda saga come to light.
Now I am sure that when other Lawyers see Paul or John coming down the hall, they do the fake phone call trick or pretened to read a paper in their hand or fake a coughing fit till they are by so they can quickly get away so as to not be caught associating with those lawyers.
Let's just say you had a point or at least some sort of fact to back up your assertion, the problem with this is your assuming that this is the Mike Masnick's fault for reporting accurately the courts findings.
Your missing the point that has been made time and time again, that your litigation scheme and how it's fallen apart due to greed and bravado are costing you and Steele many sleepness nights and a future date with the IRS Criminal Division and facing a possible RICO case.
The community here are more than willing to debate the facts of these cases, but much like the Prenda filings and your various ramblings here time and time again, you avoid and facts and are all about bluster and filler.
Obviously the fact that you have tried the same strategy to get a Judge Removed from a case has backfired completely, much like it did when you tried to get Judge Wright booted from the case, guess you boys didn't learn from that.
No worries Paul, I am sure your just worried about Duffy's possible turn to a witness and Lutz wanting to do so as well. So I can see why your stressed.
Well once you go and do your time, then you can come out a free man and move on with life
Well who didn't see this coming, another Judge in another jurisdiction has found fraud upon the court in a Prenda case with it's so called "client" AF Holdings.
The only people surprised about this revelation is Steele and Hansmeier, everyone else pretty much saw the Prenda litigation strategy starting to unravel at the seems.
Paul you seem a little strung out, you ought to grab some Midol, maybe it will mellow you out a little and you really ought to take the Google alerts for your name off of your phone.
The simple fact Paul is the internet community and those who you sued in these various cases and the Lawyers who represented them brought the facts of this sham litigation scheme to the court and media's attention, and rightfully so.
You sit and blather on about due process and whine "poor me, and my reputation". Sorry Paul you and Steele are the ones who authored this strategy, you are the ones that promised porn producers bug money if they signed on, and you and Steele are the ones who's greed got the best of them and wanted to keep the pot all in house.
Steele's ego I thought was fragile, I appear to be wrong on that with all your whining you have doing on here for months under your nic, and your childish name calling for someone benefiting your education is even funnier, sad but funny.
I gather the pressure of Gibbs spilling the Dropbox details and giving the IRS Criminal Division much more info then you thought they would get has really screwed John and you plan wise of keeping those details hidden, not to mention poor Duffy seething with anger over a 40k cut out of a 1.9 Mil profit.
I can see where you were probably pissed at John for filing the bar complaint out of anger and in hopes it would make Gibbs cower to John's plan of him taking the fall, that didn't work out as John thought I would have to believe.
Now with Gibbs firmly entrenched in survival and the possibility of him cooperating with an IRS Criminal Division investigation and as a possible witness in a RICO case, there is much trouble on the home front for you, so I can see why your stressed.
You and John can't trust Lutz to put any testimony forward on the stand, not after the Florida case where he tried to play company representative, and you sure can't count on Duffy who is probably seething about that tiny cut of the profits while taking all the risk as the principal of Prenda Law.
Let's be honest Paul, Duffy is under a lot of stress here, his professional reputation is taking a beating due to the Prenda Law association with these cases, his name is the principal of Prenda, he had to come up with the bond and probably had to secure it in his name, he has been refereed to the state bar, he is on the hook for all these fee awards.
I can see where Duffy may see what Gibbs did as a smart move, take the pressure off, get out from under the sanctions and fee awards, save himself from a possible Tax evasion charge and a possible RICO indictment... I could see where taking that step to be witness for the prosecution would be better than being a co-accused, I can see why your stressed.
Then there is Mark Lutz, I bet he is wanting out from under this... I am sure when he signed on he had no idea things would go this bad and is probably a little that some Federal Judge is going to grow tired of the "Where's Waldo" game that has been going with his non appearance in several court rooms and some Judge losing patience with the litany of excuses and sending out the U.S. Marshall Service to bring him to court in chains.
Lutz I am sure is very very tempted to wanted to flip to I would guess much like Duffy. Of course after all that you really the only one left to take the hit right Paul? I mean what could happen to John, he isn't actively practicing ( wink wink) so no bar # for him to lose..so no worries for him and he wouldnt turn on you to save himself now would he?
I mean sure John could say you were the mastermind and point out the class action objection gig and the ADA gig and say you were the master mind behind Prenda and say these prove just that, but I think John is solid in your corner... he is right?
Well Paul I am glad to see your enjoying all the due process in these cases much like the so called infringers -er- victims did.. karma can be a beast.
Well you and John are going to be famous though Paul I am sure in Ethics classes everywhere the saga of Prenda Law will be par for the course and required reading.
Happy Holidays to you Paul, I hear that canned Turkey they have in the Federal Penal system is to die for.
I wouldn't worry about Mark Lutz too much TAC, after all his good friend John Steele is always looking out for him. John scoured the streets of Florida to make sure Mark was okay and going to make a plane.
Besides John and Paul were big fans of "Where's Waldo" in law school and this is the grown up version starring Mark Lutz.
I think they are more worried about the fact that one of these Federal Judges is going to get tired of the "Where's Waldo" game starring Mark Lutz and send the U.S. Marshall Service to bring him before them in court.
Then Lutz will want to get out from under and cut a deal and that leaves old John and Paul on the hook
Oh BTW Paul you should turn off Google alerts for your name being mentioned, you'd probably get more sleep without your phone going off constantly every time your name is made a laughing stock of.. just a tip from me to you
Actually Paul we are all for due process, the Problem is that Team Prenda doesn't believe in it and obviously doesn't practice it or they wouldn't be getting dressed down in various courtrooms across the country and sanctioned by the very judges who have Prenda cases on their dockets.
You bang on about there being a conspiracy, but it has nothing to do with content creators getting their money. It's more about the conspiracy to use the court system to engage in legal extortion with a fraudulent victim and various entities and shell companies and offshore LLC's to hide an ongoing criminal enterprise in my opinion.
Once again Paul you make personal attacks, I would have thought someone with your education would have been able to put together a more eloquent remark rather than a high school comeback.
So Paul I have to ask, now that Duffy has learned how little he received of that 1.9 mil You and John have taken out of your trolling profits in 2012, how much has he been complaining about it?
I would gather Duffy was being kept in the dark about how much money was coming in to Prenda from your victims -er- infringers. Duffy must have been a tad upset to see you two were getting big check and he was getting almost next to nothing, must have him a little steamed doesn't it.
Duffy must be wondering why he agreed to sign on as the Prenda principal for such a small taste out of a 1.9 mil haul.
Duffy must be worrying you and old John about whether he will flip like Gibbs did, after all he is a scapegoat here isn't he. That's why he is the principal in Prenda Law, he takes the brunt of the sanctions, he is taking the brunt for the bond, the sanctions, the appearances in various cases.
I am worried for you and John though Paul, I don't know how much longer Duffy will be able to withstand the barrage of court rulings and sanctions and fee awards... never mind his name being dragged through the sewer and the various referrals to the Illinois state bar.
Then you have the possibility of a Grand Jury looking into RICO violations and the IRS Criminal Division investigation that is ongoing, I would have to think Duffy would love to get out from all that strain he is under, after all he is on the hook since his name is the principal of Prenda Law.
I bet when Duffy signed on he was thinking a few quick bucks for just his name on a few documents, easy money right? I bet now he cringes every time Prenda Law's name comes up in the media or court filings because his reputation is just taking a beating in the public eye and never mind legal circles I would believe.
With that being said I am sure you and John must have upped the kitty a little for Duffy from the profits right? You did do that to help keep Duffy from pulling a Gibbs didn't you Paul? I would have if I was in your shoes especially after Gibbs and the Dropbox financial information coming out.
John and you must have been a little sleepless after that bomb hit, I bet there was some frantic phone calls to Duffy telling him "not to believe what Gibbs said was made and that it was only a tenth of that" right?
I have to wonder how much more Duffy is willing to take in this, after all Duffy has judgments against him for monies owed I believe, and then all these sanction orders and fee awards and the cost of flying to these hearings, the bar investigations, the IRS Criminal Division investigations and the possibility of a RICO indictment could be wanting him to get out from all this, especially for that low 5 figure cut he was getting.
Steele I bet is worried that Duffy will pull a Gibbs and not want to be the only guy without a chair when the music stops, I am sure Duffy like Gibbs knows a lot of the inner working of this litigation nightmare.
Must be keeping Steele awake at night knowing his cleverly crafted litigation strategy after cutting the porn companies out of the loop to keep the profits all in house is crashing down, and now he has to worry about Duffy flipping.
Though I would have to believe Duffy was a loyal solider till that Dropbox Financial for 2012 came into the public eye, no maybe not so much...I am sure Duffy is thinking this isn't worth all the strain and financial hits he is taking for so little of a return.
You and John must be calling Duffy two or three times a day to make sure he is still on board and hoping that no one from the IRS Criminal Division has visited him yet and offered him a deal to be a witness in exchange for a lighter penalty and maybe no jail time if there is a case put forward for tax evasion.
And of course if there was a RICO indictment well I am sure someone Paul's age wouldn't like the idea of rattling the bars in a cell for a few years while John is enjoying Florida and you are in Minnesota and working away making money from your ADA suits, probably wouldn't sit well with Duffy.
You have to admit though Duffy would be a great witness in a RICO prosecution and what a sweet deal that would be for him to get out from underneath all of this mess and take all the stress off of him personally and with the wife and the strain his marriage must be under from all of this I would imagine.
But you know Paul I am worried for you, Steele has tried to insulate himself from this by not being an active lawyer, you however still are. I wonder how well your Law practice and your callas action objections are going to fair now that this is all in the light and your name being on all these sanction orders and fee awards, not to mention you ADA lawsuits your filing.... I could see your ability to make money dwindling.
John on the other hand isn't practicing (wink wink) so hsi Bar number isn't in jeopardy as much as your's and Duffy is of course. But what if John starts feeling the pressure of RICO and the IRS Criminal Division investigations?
Think John would be tempted enough to turn witness to get out from under stiff penalties and possible jail time reduced by naming you as the main man, the genius behind all this?
I mean after all you still have some litigation scams -er- strategies in play here and Steele in theory could point to them and say " see look at his litigation that is current , he's the brains behind all of this. That could be bad for you Paul if you had no chair when the music stops.
But I guess it's just my imagination running wild, I am sure Steele and Duffy wouldn't do that to you right Paul.
Hey Paul. Wow so not only a Troll lawyer, but also a troll poster (which fits into the segway of your "Under The Bridge" consulting firm)
Nice of you to admit that it's you that has been posting away here...oops didn't mean to come out and give that away did you? Noe worries there, we are used to You, Steele and Duffy pulling a Pretenda.
Not to worry I am sure you will claim it's Mark Lutz posting (You know Mark has lots of time on his hands to post here in between running a multi-faceted organization of various holding companies and shell entities)
So worried about being baited but yet come out and admit it's you posting here in defense of your cellmate -er- partner Steele.
So Paul when you and Steel files that genius move of the Bar complaint about Gibbs, did even occur to you that Gibbs would have had records of phone calls, emails, faxes, courier receipts etc for his case records and billings along with for tax purposes? Just curious about that colossal blunder that brought forward the income you and Steele have been pilfering -er- making from victims -er- infringers.
Bet you weren't counting on the Dropbox details coming out huh...another famed Pretenda oops!
So Paul I have to ask you, now that Duffy realizes how much you and Steele have been making and how little he has received for his efforts, but yet having to take all the media heat and court judgments and bar referrals and being on the hook for this bond, how long do you think it will be before he pulls a Gibbs and switches sides to get out from under?
Honestly Paul you may have just made another new enemy with Duffy seeing how much you guys have been taking and how little has come his way.
Duffy I am sure is feeling the financial strain of all these expenses for court, and for the bond and various sanctions and having to fly around and try and dig out from under all this mess.
I wonder if a Grand Jury that could be looking at a possible RICO case will be looking at Paul to come testify. I would be of the opinion that Duffy must be seething about getting such a minuscule amount of a 1.9 million dollar take.
Duffy would be a very attractive witness for co-operation in a RICO case you would have to believe. Duffy would also be a great witness for the IRS Criminal Division investigators because after all it is Duffy that would be taking the hit since his name is the Principal of Prenda Law.
I bet Old Duffy would love to get out from under, get rid of all the media attention, the financial strain, the peril of his being able to practice due to the bar complaints, the constant court sanctions... how easy this would be to do if he was a witness instead of being on the hook so to speak.
I bet old John and you have had a few conversations about that Bar complaint about Gibbs huh, and how that shouldn't have been done in anger and without some thought eh.
So what are you going to do about Lutz Paul, he can't play the invisible man forever now can he.
I mean lets be honest Paul how long do you think it will be before a Judge orders the U.S. Marshall service to find Mark and bring him to court, can keep making excuses for ever Paul.
Lutz can only not be found, or miss a flight, or have his cat go in for surgery or claim illness so many times before some Judge tires of the litany of "Where's Waldo" starring Mark Lutz sightings.
I have to wonder how long Lutz will last to before he flips, we all know Lutz isn't a corporate genius you and Steele have built him up to be, if he was you boy would have had him in court by now.
I gather that Lutz's performance in Florida where he tried to play corporate representative and bombed so badly upon questioning from the Judge over seeing the case has shaken the belief that he would be able to with stand even the slightest of scrutiny.
I don't blame you at all, I mean Old John leaning forward , desperately trying to whisper answers to Mark to stave off the Judge finding out what was really going on in her courtroom, who would wan't to go thru that again right.
now let's hypothesis for a minute here, you and John sure have your backs in a corner, so Paul let me ask you, I don't think John would do well in Prison if you two were say convicted of RICO and tax evasion, now lets say that did happen (Hypothetically... but hey even we have a dream!)how long do you think it would take John to wan't to cut a deal and try and save himself?
This John would do that after all you have been through since Law School? I have to tell you Paul I am a little concerned for you buddy, I mean you could be the last man standing in all this.
Hypothetically John could say this was all your idea, the suing of down loaders for porn companies, the cutting the porn companies out to not have to give up any share of settlements, the making of your own companies, offshore entities and own porn movies to sue infringers.
John in theory could say you were the mastermind, and point to you using class action suits that are in the midst of settling and then objecting for a go away fee.
Then of course you have this ADA settlement business going on. I could see where John could use this to very convincingly point the finger you way and seeing "he is the brains behind it".
But of course I don't think John would do this to you to avoid facing a RICO case if one were brought forward...NAH!
You and John are tight right.. I am sure it's just my opinion getting the best of me... silly RICO & IRS investigations and all.
Well thanks for dropping by all these months Paul we sure have enjoyed those clever retorts from you. See you on visitation day -er- I mean in the next story comments.
Oh Please. Anyone who has ever watched a senate committee panel do any questioning of a government agency even when there is a political and public firestorm knows they will watch the senators on the committee pound the table and raise their voice when asking something, but that's about it.
The senate committees will have already worked out the outcome behind closed doors as always, the rest is just a dog and pony show for the public and the media.
From the White House to the various government agencies that go before the senate and house committees have and always will make the back room deals as they always have.
The senate and house reps get an IOU to pull out at a later date or they will get some support for some pet project of theirs.
The Potomac two step is still alive in Washington and will be for years to come and the U.S. citizens are always the one left on the hook.
You can bet is a senator or congressman was having their calls/emails scooped up that there would be heads rolling, but since it just your everyday citizen, well sorry but were expendable.
Once again the denials coming from Team Prenda are worth a laugh. Is it just me or did anyone else notice the absence of Lutz when he was required to appear.
Every time Lutz is required to appear there is always some reason Lutz wasn't there. This is like the 3rd or 4 th time now where Lutz has failed to appear.
Now I am not sure of this, but I don't recall Lutz having appeared before Judge Snow, I believe at one time he was supposed to appear, but it's my belief that Lutz had not done so.
I have said this before that Lutz will not appear at any of these upcoming hearings, not after the fiasco in Florida in the Sunlust case.
Lutz just won't survive questioning with out Steele whispering answers in his ear. I love how Steele who is supposedly retired seems to know so much about AF Holdings and copyrights assignments and who said what.
For someone with no involvement with Prenda Law and AF Holdings Steele sure knows a lot, I also recall Stelle said he was a consultant to AF Holdings, so why did Steele not say that in his testimony.
Steele said before that he was a consultant to AF Holdings and he is paid for that. So why did Steele not testify to that in court, or is John's memory lapsing.
I still can't figure out why Flesher was at this hearing when he was questioned by the Judge much like Mark Lutz in the Florida case he was there to testify about what he doesn't know and he gets tossed as a witness, much like Lutz did as a corporate representative of Sunlust(the irony is too funny on that point)
It's the same with Berry's testimony another person who doesn't know anything. Great witnesses there John...lol.
So why didn't this Ray Rogers take the stand to testify about his signatures on the copyright assignments? As a matter of fact why would Ray Rogers sign copyright assignments when he didn't work for AF Holdings?
Hansmeier previously said in the deposition in California by Pietz and Ranallo that Mark Lutz was the Sole employee at AF Holdings and that he take no salary or wage. So why is Rogers signing copyright assignments when he has nothing to do with AF Holdings, and why would he be signing these and then giving them to Steele who said he didn't know anything about the AF Holdings.
I can't wait to hear John explain why VPR International is registered to his sisters address, and why there is a trust named Salt Marsh and his sisters boyfriend is named Anthony Saltmarsh.
I also loved the fact that Hansmeier brought the documents to court to show on a slide but didn't want them in as an exhibit but the Judge entered them in if they were going to be part of Hansmeier's case....Oops!
You can bet those documents are going to get used in other cases or brought to the attention of other Judges where Prenda is having problems.
Was John Steele of Prenda Law a consultant to these guys? Cause from having their ass handed to them by this Judge it sure seems like it.
Hmmmm so these Guy had one sham employee supposedly as the head of the company. Is it just me or does this seem similar to what Prenda has with it's so called client AF Holdings and it's sole CEO/employee Mark Lutz.
I loved the part where the Judge told the lawyer that "the sham employee, and sham office" were going to be part of the Jury trial.
It's good to see the Judge is making these guys take it to trial after refusing to dismiss it. This Judge is definitely holding this troll's feet to the fire.
I still have to wonder if the troll who brought this up isn't related to John Steele, cause man it seems damn close by the shenanigans going on in this case.
The RIAA seems to forget the public is not always ripping off music.
There are countless people who watch a music video or maybe a clip of a band or artist live show of a song and it peaks a persons interest in that very artist or band.
I myself heard a band song on Vimeo, and then checked out another video of another song from that same album that band put out.
I liked it enough to go and purchase the that full album from the band on iTunes, and now it is on my iPod.
DI am sure there other people who have done the same or something similar with Youtube/Vimeo themselves. Shouldn't the RIAA and Labels look at it as a tool to get your music out to people?
The RIAA and the Labels are so far out of touch with the music indutry and what the people want it isn't even funny. My Friends play in a bamd and have a record deal and they are distributed in the US and Canada by a major Label.
The label though doesn't promote them enough, so they do more self promotion thru their site and thru Youtube/Vimeo and a couple of smaller music genre sites.
They do a lot of self promotion themselves thru social networking as well and have their videos on those sites as well. Why? Because if you not the artist or band of the moment you get no promotional help like say Justin Bieber does.
The RIAA and the Labels are so still stuck on the money they were making from CD sales, that they figure if they snuff out things like Napster that their sales will increase ten fold.
How has that worked out so far? Not so well. Then the RIAA & Labels were crying for more of the share of sales of songs thru vehicles like iTunes and what not.
Instead of adapting and riding the wave to get music across cheaper to people who want that band or artist music they still cling to the CD sales etc.
The Labels and the RIAA are way behind in their thinking, instead of change and adapt they cling to that old CD sale like a heroin addict looking for a fix... for old times sake.
The bands and artists are way better at self promotion and giving the people what they want. Nowadays most bands and artists will allow you to purchase their music digitally off their site or thru other avenues as well as merchandise and yes even CD's.