The Internet's business model for content seems to involve giving your work away for free and buying lottery tickets with the artist's earnings from Starbucks.
There is no reason to get all bent over specific job loss calculations. Copyright protection is asserted as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Article 27b. Quibble all you want over job loss but recognize that you're advocating denial of a human right when you argue against any meaningful enforcement of copyright.
Your expert analyst, "furdlog," assumes that piracy is somehow confined to the U. S.
The MPAA doesn't get to $58B in losses by estimating the number of DVD sales they're losing to the 29 million Americans who download unlawfully, it's a global figure.
Ha, now you've really stepped in it. Do you even know who built the core technology of the Internet? Apparently not. In addition to the well known pair of Cerf and Kahn, the key players were Louis Pouzin, Alex McKenzie, Dave Walden, Bob Metcalfe, Steve Crocker, Yogen Dalal, Gerard LeLann, and John Day.
How many of them have you asked about me?
I can rattle off a similar list for Ethernet and Wi-Fi, but you wouldn't recognize their names (or contributions) either. Give it up, you're digging ever deeper. If your goal is to establish yourself A's the Michelle Bachmann of intellectual property, you're off to a great start.
What history do I have on this blog? Years go by between my visits, it's not even on my Top 100 list.
You claim to know a lot about me, including my professional history and reputation, but never to have met anyone who knows me. Not surprisingly, you're making stuff up..
But hey, you're a former marketing clerk with a degree in labor relations with an obscure blog that's hungry for traffic, so whatever floats your boat.
My, now you're even more shrill and childish than usual.
Why don't you see if you can't calm yourself down a bit before I have to explain statutory construction to you. They probably didn't cover that too well in journalism school.
Clue: When you starting attacking what you think I do for a living rather than responding to the points I raised, you lost the argument. The rest of this is just cleaning up.
Thanks for demonstrating how little respect you have for the people who create the technologies your blog depends on, Mike. I'm quite well known in the standards community for my work on Ethernet and Wi-Fi.
I wouldn't say that I've ever agreed with you on any important part of the patents and copyrights issue; the closest would be the belief that some of your empirical claims would be interesting if they were true. When I research them, I generally find they aren't.
The patent right, like the gun ownership right, is in the Constitution. I don't expect that we're going to be amending either of those rights away, even though many bloggers are opposed to both of them.
Actually, I listened to it and found it was just typical tabloid stuff. Nothing really informative, but plenty of raw insinuation. IOW, the typical journalism major's take on the human side of issues they don't actually grasp in substance.
Actually, Mike, most of the people I deal with are technologists, like myself, who create, build, and run systems based on patented technologies. Even if I only talked to myself, that would put me in better company in terms of patent experience than people who live in a world of hearsay.
Inventions come from people who are paid to invent or some similar economic interest in inventing. These processes gave us the transistor, the integrated circuit, the microprocessor, the dynamic RAM, and all the networks that we use every day. Inventions come from people, not from immaterial forces.
Invent something, then you can carry on about innovation with some credibility.
My knowledge of the patent system is from first-hand experience with the patent filings I've made that were accepted or rejected, not from watching TV shows.
I don't really *have* to jump from patents to criminal law to make my point, but I recognize that most readers of this blog don't know how the patent system works and therefore need some simple analogies.
Some critics of the patent system say the standards are too low and the system needs reform. Others, like Masnick, say that entire concept of patents is wrong and the system should be abolished. This latter criticism isn't intellectually serious, of course.
If innocent people are being convicted of crimes and sent to jail, the remedy is not to abolish the laws against rape and murder, it's to improve the criminal justice system.
Innovative New Business Models
The Internet's business model for content seems to involve giving your work away for free and buying lottery tickets with the artist's earnings from Starbucks.
I don't think that's going to work.
Interesting
Nicely nuanced post.
Senate Protect IP Hearing
There's too much BS in this post to comment on all of it, so I'll leave you with two points.
The Senate Hearing on Protect IP was held on Feb. 8th of last year, the witness statements and streaming video are here: http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=e655f9e2809e5476862f735da166ae90
Please correct your post accordingly.
There is no reason to get all bent over specific job loss calculations. Copyright protection is asserted as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Article 27b. Quibble all you want over job loss but recognize that you're advocating denial of a human right when you argue against any meaningful enforcement of copyright.
Re: if you can't hear the original question,
Please, don't confuse the angry mob with mere facts.
Censorship!
There they go again, censoring the Internet. Democracy is lost,
Al Gore uses DMCA to take his speech down
It's absolutely hilarious that Al Gore, the initiator of the Internet, used a DMCA notice to take down his alleged criticism of SOPA.
His objection is what, exactly? "Copyright for me but not for thee" seems to be the gist of it.
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So the US is the only first world country? Silly person.
Is this the best you can do?
Your expert analyst, "furdlog," assumes that piracy is somehow confined to the U. S.
The MPAA doesn't get to $58B in losses by estimating the number of DVD sales they're losing to the 29 million Americans who download unlawfully, it's a global figure.
This is very shoddy blogging.
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You didn't answer the question.
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Ha, now you've really stepped in it. Do you even know who built the core technology of the Internet? Apparently not. In addition to the well known pair of Cerf and Kahn, the key players were Louis Pouzin, Alex McKenzie, Dave Walden, Bob Metcalfe, Steve Crocker, Yogen Dalal, Gerard LeLann, and John Day.
How many of them have you asked about me?
I can rattle off a similar list for Ethernet and Wi-Fi, but you wouldn't recognize their names (or contributions) either. Give it up, you're digging ever deeper. If your goal is to establish yourself A's the Michelle Bachmann of intellectual property, you're off to a great start.
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What history do I have on this blog? Years go by between my visits, it's not even on my Top 100 list.
You claim to know a lot about me, including my professional history and reputation, but never to have met anyone who knows me. Not surprisingly, you're making stuff up..
But hey, you're a former marketing clerk with a degree in labor relations with an obscure blog that's hungry for traffic, so whatever floats your boat.
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My, now you're even more shrill and childish than usual.
Why don't you see if you can't calm yourself down a bit before I have to explain statutory construction to you. They probably didn't cover that too well in journalism school.
Clue: When you starting attacking what you think I do for a living rather than responding to the points I raised, you lost the argument. The rest of this is just cleaning up.
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Thanks for demonstrating how little respect you have for the people who create the technologies your blog depends on, Mike. I'm quite well known in the standards community for my work on Ethernet and Wi-Fi.
I wouldn't say that I've ever agreed with you on any important part of the patents and copyrights issue; the closest would be the belief that some of your empirical claims would be interesting if they were true. When I research them, I generally find they aren't.
The patent right, like the gun ownership right, is in the Constitution. I don't expect that we're going to be amending either of those rights away, even though many bloggers are opposed to both of them.
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It was a podcast?
My goodness, that changes everything.
Actually, I listened to it and found it was just typical tabloid stuff. Nothing really informative, but plenty of raw insinuation. IOW, the typical journalism major's take on the human side of issues they don't actually grasp in substance.
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So invention deadbeats are more credible than inventors on the subject of invention and innovation?
That's a novel POV.
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Actually, Mike, most of the people I deal with are technologists, like myself, who create, build, and run systems based on patented technologies. Even if I only talked to myself, that would put me in better company in terms of patent experience than people who live in a world of hearsay.
Inventions come from people who are paid to invent or some similar economic interest in inventing. These processes gave us the transistor, the integrated circuit, the microprocessor, the dynamic RAM, and all the networks that we use every day. Inventions come from people, not from immaterial forces.
Invent something, then you can carry on about innovation with some credibility.
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You're wrong about what "I'm paid to be," the nature of patent rights, and the nature of innovation. But other than that, you're on a roll.
Next time you use Ethernet over UTP or Wi-Fi, think of their inventors. That group would include me.
Now what have you done, Mike? Oh, you write a blog. Well, that's a start.
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My knowledge of the patent system is from first-hand experience with the patent filings I've made that were accepted or rejected, not from watching TV shows.
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I don't really *have* to jump from patents to criminal law to make my point, but I recognize that most readers of this blog don't know how the patent system works and therefore need some simple analogies.
Some critics of the patent system say the standards are too low and the system needs reform. Others, like Masnick, say that entire concept of patents is wrong and the system should be abolished. This latter criticism isn't intellectually serious, of course.
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If innocent people are being convicted of crimes and sent to jail, the remedy is not to abolish the laws against rape and murder, it's to improve the criminal justice system.
Do the math.