I would say that government oversight is better than corporate, simply because the modern philosophy of business is purely short-term profits, and there is no transparancy by design.
Neither is ideal, but the government devil is 6 inches shorter.
I feel for you guys, and I wish I could have gotten someone to care about software patents in the US before they became intrenched.
Instead, all I found were denials and gold-diggers. They've changed their opinions now, but it's too late.
Better than blocking imports completely with a BS patent.
I perfer negotiation to litigation, even if they're both garbage.
Sadly, it's choosing the lesser evil.
most of those artists lose money for the label but then the label will hit on a Mariah Carey or a Nickelback and make back enough money to recoup any losses.
The fact that he chose these two acts as "successes" shows how out of touch with reality he is.
Both the US and India had oodles of smart people between 1975 and 2005. Both the US and India had to deal with crushing urban poverty during this time. Are you serious? America is known in India as, "the land where poor people are fat." The per capita GDP of the US is 47,000. For India, 1,410. As of 2010. Take a look here to see how ridiculous your argument is.
Looking at the graphs, I see no spikes in India's GNP, just an upturn in 2001, well before the ip reforms of 2005. That would coincide with a marked upturn in US outsourcing of IT jobs.
And here's a little suprise for you: there were no software patents enforced in the US until '94. That was the Unisys gif patent which opened all the doors. That's right! The PC, cell phones, and even the Internet were brought about without any patents on the software! Can you believe it?
A long post. Well done, Bob. A few questions, though.
1. What was the GNP trend before and after India enacted IP laws?
2. When was there a huge improvement in Idia's educational system?
3. What products are you refering to which are copies of western products?
4. What new products are made in the West that aren't remixes of other products?
What we are seeing right now is actually the second wave of the anti-software patent movement in the US. The first was the infamous Unisys gif compression patent, which was small and disorganized. (I had a really hard time getting my fellow coders to care. They seemed to be more interested in cashing in on the patent lottery.) Now we have a much broader and deeper awareness, but I don't think it will change the patent system.
I think we'll have to wait for the third wave.
Sorry to break this to everyone, but .NET did not replace ActiveX. You see, Windows Server 2003 was supposed to be .NET Server. But the OS group really likes the Common Object Model (COM), and ActiveX is the brand name for COM in a browser.
The rumor that I heard is, the OS guys stalled the swapout of COM pieces until it was too late to release, which ticked off the marketing and management guys. So management decided to combine the OS and .NET groups in order to get the technology upgrade. But they left the management structure in place, and that left the OS guys in the senior position. So now .NET has a whole lot of new COM features, and .NET server looks like pie in the sky.
Just a rumor, of course.
You are so right. What you missed is that the Chinese didn't have to revers-engineer anything. They simply let the US and Japanese companies give them the plans and molds for their products, and pay them to manufacture the first million or so products. Then, the Chinese companies they simply ran off a few million for themselves.
Perhaps these business people should have checked local laws before producing their lines overseas.
As a professional developer, this case is starting to scare the hell out of me. I never liked Java, but I had hopes we could pry C# out of Microsoft's clutches.
Now I'm afraid to start a side project in anything but C. Chilling effects? Check.
Perhaps between this and MegaUpload, the DOJ will have enough of a political black-eye that they will think twice before trusting the recording industry lobbyists.
I see nothing but haters. No fanbois at all.
It warms my heart, actually. I've had nothing but contempt for Apple since 1985.
And if you guys are any indication, I'd say Apple stock has peaked. Sell 'em if you got 'em.
Why do we let this kind of craziness happen? Why don't we, as a society, stand up and point out that it makes no sense.
This is because a large percentage of people dream of painting a picture or writing a book which magically makes them millionaires overnight. I just talked to a friend this weekend, and explained how the Patent Shakedown works, where someone threatens a lawsuit without even giving up what patent was violated.
"Hey, we need to do that. I'd like to have an extra couple hundred G's lying around."
People know it's not fair. They just hope it can work in their favor some day.
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I would say that government oversight is better than corporate, simply because the modern philosophy of business is purely short-term profits, and there is no transparancy by design.
Neither is ideal, but the government devil is 6 inches shorter.
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The city I live in is running fiber. They have the business district done, and I'm scheduled for the beginning of the year.
From the US
I feel for you guys, and I wish I could have gotten someone to care about software patents in the US before they became intrenched.
Instead, all I found were denials and gold-diggers. They've changed their opinions now, but it's too late.
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I agree. Jeff seems to be increasingly obsessed with the health his lawn.
Re: Byte my Bits!
Came here to say this! Upvote -er- insightful vote for you!
Wait!
Where's Bob?
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Better than blocking imports completely with a BS patent.
I perfer negotiation to litigation, even if they're both garbage.
Sadly, it's choosing the lesser evil.
Well,
"We're sorry, Mr. Franken. But we were investigating copyright infringement for the MPAA..."
"Oh, well, carry on then."
I couldn't get past this part:
most of those artists lose money for the label but then the label will hit on a Mariah Carey or a Nickelback and make back enough money to recoup any losses.
The fact that he chose these two acts as "successes" shows how out of touch with reality he is.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hmmm.
Both the US and India had oodles of smart people between 1975 and 2005. Both the US and India had to deal with crushing urban poverty during this time. Are you serious? America is known in India as, "the land where poor people are fat." The per capita GDP of the US is 47,000. For India, 1,410. As of 2010. Take a look here to see how ridiculous your argument is.
Looking at the graphs, I see no spikes in India's GNP, just an upturn in 2001, well before the ip reforms of 2005. That would coincide with a marked upturn in US outsourcing of IT jobs.
And here's a little suprise for you: there were no software patents enforced in the US until '94. That was the Unisys gif patent which opened all the doors. That's right! The PC, cell phones, and even the Internet were brought about without any patents on the software! Can you believe it?
Re: Hmmm.
A long post. Well done, Bob. A few questions, though.
1. What was the GNP trend before and after India enacted IP laws?
2. When was there a huge improvement in Idia's educational system?
3. What products are you refering to which are copies of western products?
4. What new products are made in the West that aren't remixes of other products?
Thank you for your time. Specifics are important.
Software patents
What we are seeing right now is actually the second wave of the anti-software patent movement in the US. The first was the infamous Unisys gif compression patent, which was small and disorganized. (I had a really hard time getting my fellow coders to care. They seemed to be more interested in cashing in on the patent lottery.) Now we have a much broader and deeper awareness, but I don't think it will change the patent system.
I think we'll have to wait for the third wave.
ActiveX is alive and still sucks...
Sorry to break this to everyone, but .NET did not replace ActiveX. You see, Windows Server 2003 was supposed to be .NET Server. But the OS group really likes the Common Object Model (COM), and ActiveX is the brand name for COM in a browser.
The rumor that I heard is, the OS guys stalled the swapout of COM pieces until it was too late to release, which ticked off the marketing and management guys. So management decided to combine the OS and .NET groups in order to get the technology upgrade. But they left the management structure in place, and that left the OS guys in the senior position. So now .NET has a whole lot of new COM features, and .NET server looks like pie in the sky.
Just a rumor, of course.
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You are so right. What you missed is that the Chinese didn't have to revers-engineer anything. They simply let the US and Japanese companies give them the plans and molds for their products, and pay them to manufacture the first million or so products. Then, the Chinese companies they simply ran off a few million for themselves.
Perhaps these business people should have checked local laws before producing their lines overseas.
All I know is...
As a professional developer, this case is starting to scare the hell out of me. I never liked Java, but I had hopes we could pry C# out of Microsoft's clutches.
Now I'm afraid to start a side project in anything but C. Chilling effects? Check.
DOJ?
Perhaps between this and MegaUpload, the DOJ will have enough of a political black-eye that they will think twice before trusting the recording industry lobbyists.
Here's to hoping.
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Curse you for your accuracy and insight. I was happily not thinking about CrApple until I read your comment.
Wow!
I see nothing but haters. No fanbois at all.
It warms my heart, actually. I've had nothing but contempt for Apple since 1985.
And if you guys are any indication, I'd say Apple stock has peaked. Sell 'em if you got 'em.
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No, that's the Fozzie scheme...
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Why do we let this kind of craziness happen? Why don't we, as a society, stand up and point out that it makes no sense.
This is because a large percentage of people dream of painting a picture or writing a book which magically makes them millionaires overnight. I just talked to a friend this weekend, and explained how the Patent Shakedown works, where someone threatens a lawsuit without even giving up what patent was violated.
"Hey, we need to do that. I'd like to have an extra couple hundred G's lying around."
People know it's not fair. They just hope it can work in their favor some day.