Peterman's lawyer pulled a con job on the jury (or the opposing lawyer was asleep at the switch and did not think). Using the viewing habits of the Hotel Residents (as opposed to using the PPV numbers on the local Cable System) is not a valid measure since that population is going to be primarily non-locals just visiting the area (or are the locals checking into the hotel just to watch/get-access-to porn?).
The problem is how you define porn. The Sports Illustrated Swim Suit edition is considered as porn in some countries due to the women not being totally covered as well just having their face uncovered instead of covered by a veil so that only their eyes show.
JayTee posted "Companies paid good money for those adds... these people are stealing !!!!"
It is not the companies who paid the network whose produce is in theory being "stolen". It is the network's fee for delivering the eyeballs. If I am a company who wants my ad to be aired, I am charged based on the network airing for x number of households. By streaming the game and the embedded ads, you are, in theory, adding to the number of households/eyeballs which means that the companies should be happy since they are not being charged for all the viewers.
Note that I am not taking a view on if such streaming is right but only pointing out who is in theory being "harmed" which is the network NOT the sponsor.
The comment about using round wheels since only they will work reminds me of a science fiction story that I read years ago. The basic premise was that a space ship crashed on a primitive planet and the crew needed to transport something via a wagon but they could not use wheels on the wagon since the circle was sacred to the natives. They got around the restriction by using wheels that were shaped like rounded triangles. This shape has a constant diameter and thus will roll just like a circular wheel but since it was not a circle was not in violation of the native's religious views.
The bottom like is that this shape (which is the same as that of the Wankel Engine Rotor) can work just as well as the standard round wheel.
Anonymous Coward on Sep 26th, 2011 @ 8:51am posted "Part of my reasoning is that if something happens like I have a heart attack or get hit by a car, the cellphone has enough information about me that any authorities who respond to the scene would be able to look at it and know who I am within a couple of minutes. If I'm unable to properly communicate and obviously in urgent need of medical care, it would be most unfortunate if the authorities were bound by a law that says they are not allowed to touch my cellphone without getting a search warrant."
AC is confusing two separate types of searches. He states that he is not carrying any ID except for that on the Phone. Lets say that he DOES have ID. Does he want the police to refrain from looking in his pockets or fanny pack for an ID? There is no difference between looking in your pockets for ID and looking on your Cell Phone Address Book for an ICE (In Case of Emergency) number (or other entries with likely nicknames like Mom or Dad) in this type of situation. This is a case where the Police SHOULD be able to look there and in your pockets.
The law is for cases where there is no need to do an unauthorized search or fishing expedtion unrelated to why they are interacting with you (ie: To issue you a Ticket for a traffic offense or at a DWI/etc. check point).
Anonymous Coward on Sep 26th, 2011 @ 8:51am posted "Part of my reasoning is that if something happens like I have a heart attack or get hit by a car, the cellphone has enough information about me that any authorities who respond to the scene would be able to look at it and know who I am within a couple of minutes. If I'm unable to properly communicate and obviously in urgent need of medical care, it would be most unfortunate if the authorities were bound by a law that says they are not allowed to touch my cellphone without getting a search warrant."
AC is confusing two separate types of searches. He states that he is not carrying any ID except for that on the Phone. Lets say that he DOES have ID. Does he want the police to refrain from looking in his pockets or fanny pack for an ID? There is no difference between looking in your pockets for ID and looking on your Cell Phone Address Book for an ICE (In Case of Emergency) number (or other entries with likely nicknames like Mom or Dad) in this type of situation. This is a case where the Police SHOULD be able to look there and in your pockets.
The law is for cases where there is no need to do an unauthorized search or fishing expedtion unrelated to why they are interacting with you (ie: To issue you a Ticket for a traffic offense or at a DWI/etc. check point).
The standard practice for fan subs is (or at least once was) for the subs to get pulled as soon as the studio gets off its ass and licenses the show for distribution outside of Japan. The subers, rightfully in my opinion, see their role as filling a need that the Studios are not servicing and acting as free publicity for the studio. They also supply a market for the original Japanese Versions that the supposed US Licensee refuses to supply. Disney for example has the US rights to the each Sentai (AKA Power Ranger in the US) Series which is made into a sliced and diced version of the Japanese Action Footage with a rewritten story line and US (now Australian) actors doing the non-costumed filler scenes. To see the actual show, you must go to a Hong Kong FanSubber (or the Region 2 DVDs from Japan which do not come with English Subtitles). Disney has only shown parts of one original episode which was shown as part of an PR episode called "Lost In Translation" (a name which is ironic since they did not even translate the dialog accurately but turned it into a "Whats Up Tiger Lilly" type spoof).
Since most of the studios do not market to the US, IMO, they can show no loss of income from their non-existent sales and thus the Subbers are doing them a service since many of the shows that are now available here in the US are due to the distribution of the subs which created a market for when they finally released here in the US.
I fail to see how I can deprive a studio of income when they refuse to sell an item to me. Ripping a commercial DVD (rented for example from Netflix or Blockbuster) is a different issue.
If this rule were in place at the time, the controversy between Alexander Graham Bell and Elisha Gray for the invention of the telephone would not have occurred. Both would have been granted the patent since they used different methods. You just have the hope that the leaking of Gray's submission to Bell's Lawyers (and their modifying of the Bell Submission to include Gray's Method) would not occur in a similar situation of independent invention.
If you paid for the game with a credit card, you can dispute the charge by saying that the product was defective (as it is) and the vendor refused you a refund.
Robert A. Rosenberg has not submitted any stories.
Re: It works both ways...
Peterman's lawyer pulled a con job on the jury (or the opposing lawyer was asleep at the switch and did not think). Using the viewing habits of the Hotel Residents (as opposed to using the PPV numbers on the local Cable System) is not a valid measure since that population is going to be primarily non-locals just visiting the area (or are the locals checking into the hotel just to watch/get-access-to porn?).
Re: Re: Re: Various
The problem is how you define porn. The Sports Illustrated Swim Suit edition is considered as porn in some countries due to the women not being totally covered as well just having their face uncovered instead of covered by a veil so that only their eyes show.
Re: Paying For Ads
JayTee posted "Companies paid good money for those adds... these people are stealing !!!!"
It is not the companies who paid the network whose produce is in theory being "stolen". It is the network's fee for delivering the eyeballs. If I am a company who wants my ad to be aired, I am charged based on the network airing for x number of households. By streaming the game and the embedded ads, you are, in theory, adding to the number of households/eyeballs which means that the companies should be happy since they are not being charged for all the viewers.
Note that I am not taking a view on if such streaming is right but only pointing out who is in theory being "harmed" which is the network NOT the sponsor.
Re: Round Wheels
The comment about using round wheels since only they will work reminds me of a science fiction story that I read years ago. The basic premise was that a space ship crashed on a primitive planet and the crew needed to transport something via a wagon but they could not use wheels on the wagon since the circle was sacred to the natives. They got around the restriction by using wheels that were shaped like rounded triangles. This shape has a constant diameter and thus will roll just like a circular wheel but since it was not a circle was not in violation of the native's religious views.
The bottom like is that this shape (which is the same as that of the Wankel Engine Rotor) can work just as well as the standard round wheel.
Re: Cell Phone Searching in an Emergency
Anonymous Coward on Sep 26th, 2011 @ 8:51am posted "Part of my reasoning is that if something happens like I have a heart attack or get hit by a car, the cellphone has enough information about me that any authorities who respond to the scene would be able to look at it and know who I am within a couple of minutes. If I'm unable to properly communicate and obviously in urgent need of medical care, it would be most unfortunate if the authorities were bound by a law that says they are not allowed to touch my cellphone without getting a search warrant."
AC is confusing two separate types of searches. He states that he is not carrying any ID except for that on the Phone. Lets say that he DOES have ID. Does he want the police to refrain from looking in his pockets or fanny pack for an ID? There is no difference between looking in your pockets for ID and looking on your Cell Phone Address Book for an ICE (In Case of Emergency) number (or other entries with likely nicknames like Mom or Dad) in this type of situation. This is a case where the Police SHOULD be able to look there and in your pockets.
The law is for cases where there is no need to do an unauthorized search or fishing expedtion unrelated to why they are interacting with you (ie: To issue you a Ticket for a traffic offense or at a DWI/etc. check point).
Re: Cell Phone Searching in an Emergency
Anonymous Coward on Sep 26th, 2011 @ 8:51am posted "Part of my reasoning is that if something happens like I have a heart attack or get hit by a car, the cellphone has enough information about me that any authorities who respond to the scene would be able to look at it and know who I am within a couple of minutes. If I'm unable to properly communicate and obviously in urgent need of medical care, it would be most unfortunate if the authorities were bound by a law that says they are not allowed to touch my cellphone without getting a search warrant."
AC is confusing two separate types of searches. He states that he is not carrying any ID except for that on the Phone. Lets say that he DOES have ID. Does he want the police to refrain from looking in his pockets or fanny pack for an ID? There is no difference between looking in your pockets for ID and looking on your Cell Phone Address Book for an ICE (In Case of Emergency) number (or other entries with likely nicknames like Mom or Dad) in this type of situation. This is a case where the Police SHOULD be able to look there and in your pockets.
The law is for cases where there is no need to do an unauthorized search or fishing expedtion unrelated to why they are interacting with you (ie: To issue you a Ticket for a traffic offense or at a DWI/etc. check point).
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The standard practice for fan subs is (or at least once was) for the subs to get pulled as soon as the studio gets off its ass and licenses the show for distribution outside of Japan. The subers, rightfully in my opinion, see their role as filling a need that the Studios are not servicing and acting as free publicity for the studio. They also supply a market for the original Japanese Versions that the supposed US Licensee refuses to supply. Disney for example has the US rights to the each Sentai (AKA Power Ranger in the US) Series which is made into a sliced and diced version of the Japanese Action Footage with a rewritten story line and US (now Australian) actors doing the non-costumed filler scenes. To see the actual show, you must go to a Hong Kong FanSubber (or the Region 2 DVDs from Japan which do not come with English Subtitles). Disney has only shown parts of one original episode which was shown as part of an PR episode called "Lost In Translation" (a name which is ironic since they did not even translate the dialog accurately but turned it into a "Whats Up Tiger Lilly" type spoof).
Since most of the studios do not market to the US, IMO, they can show no loss of income from their non-existent sales and thus the Subbers are doing them a service since many of the shows that are now available here in the US are due to the distribution of the subs which created a market for when they finally released here in the US.
I fail to see how I can deprive a studio of income when they refuse to sell an item to me. Ripping a commercial DVD (rented for example from Netflix or Blockbuster) is a different issue.
Independent Invention and the Telephone
If this rule were in place at the time, the controversy between Alexander Graham Bell and Elisha Gray for the invention of the telephone would not have occurred. Both would have been granted the patent since they used different methods. You just have the hope that the leaking of Gray's submission to Bell's Lawyers (and their modifying of the Bell Submission to include Gray's Method) would not occur in a similar situation of independent invention.
TVGUIDE.COM Embeds
TVGUIDE.COM does this for lots of shows. Is HULU going after them?
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If you paid for the game with a credit card, you can dispute the charge by saying that the product was defective (as it is) and the vendor refused you a refund.