"...Microsoft... dealt with this exact issue itself back during its antitrust fights, when people ridiculously accused it of the same thing for daring to give out Internet Explorer for 'free.'"
That is very much an oversimplification of what actually happened. Sure, they gave away IE for free, but they also:
- claimed it was an integral part of the OS (it wasn't)
- made IE uninstallable (for anyone but a very determined power user)
- required PC manufactures to not install any other browser
Those are the things that really got them in hot water, and justifiably so as it was clearly anti-competitive (anyone remember Netscape?)
In fact, the above reasons are what made ditch Windows entirely and switch to Linux.
You don't think that people could donate their old computers WITH windows on them?
The operating systems were slow. Some computers had viruses or malware. Students became frustrated.
Most of the computers’ problems could be fixed by wiping the disks and reinstalling the operating system—but buying new software for every donated computer would be prohibitively expensive.
Another linux nut trying to poison the minds of the young.
Well, at least those minds seem to be functioning, which is more than can be said for you.
As Thomas Edison said, anything worth achieving is 5% inspiration, and 95% perspiration.
Or, as Nikola Tesla said in reference to Edison:
His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90 percent of the labor.
Hey Hmmmm ... I bet you didn't think we'd notice, but in your post above you conveniently left out the part in your own link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft that says:
In common usage, theft is the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
And yet here you are saying
In the theft of intellectual properly, its almost always, making a copy
Seriously?
It's a copy and by your own(redacted) definition most certainly not theft.
I do have to say that I really appreciate your thoughtful and restrained approach to this subject, but you really tied yourself in an intellectual knot there.
I'm surprised you would think the News Corp, the folks behind Fox News, are even capable of an intellectually honest discussion, either in terms of intellect or honesty.
(Note: this is not a reflection on their ideology: they can subscribe to whichever ideas they choose. It is a statement against them pretending to be "Fair and Balanced" when they are so clearly not.)
I have to say I LOVE the way he uses the term 'pirate' but uses it in the opposite way it's normally used today:
To think of those solemn donkeys breaking a little child's heart with their ignorant rubbish about plagiarism! I couldn't sleep for blaspheming about it last night. Why, their whole lives, their whole histories, all their learning, all their thoughts, all their opinions were one solid rock of plagiarism, and they didn't know it and never suspected it. A gang of dull and hoary pirates piously setting themselves the task of disciplining and purifying a kitten that they think they've caught filching a chop! Oh, dam—
I think I'll call IP maximalists "hoary pirates" from now on. ;-)
Im not linux hater, but, I also dont see why people try and say its better then windows for desktop use...
Yea, that's obvious, especially when you start your comment with:
shhhh you will upset the lintard....
Regardless ...
but using linux for the average desktop user who does more then brows and word process from time to time......isnt worth the pain of trying to teach them to do stuff that in windows only takes a few clicks.
See, this is just a matter of conditioning. I got off the MS train way back in '98 (the browser/antitrust thing being the primary reason (but there are many more - why should I support such an unethical company?), and these days on the very rare occasions when I'm forced to use Windows I'm always left thinking, "Wtf!?!? Why is everything so hard to do in Windows?"
I use Linux and am proficient with it. You (apparently) use Windows and are (apparently) proficient there. See what I'm saying?
It's obvious that the whole reason Righthaven can't continue is that all the pirates stole all the money from the artists who would be normally paying Righthaven to represent them ...
They want it now, they want it all, they want it cheap, they want it delivered in a million different formats, and they want it whenever and wherever without restriction. ... and they want it so cheap that it's impossible to provide.
Impossible? How does the Pirate Bay manage to do it then?
Let's clear something up
The article states
That is very much an oversimplification of what actually happened. Sure, they gave away IE for free, but they also:
- claimed it was an integral part of the OS (it wasn't)
- made IE uninstallable (for anyone but a very determined power user)
- required PC manufactures to not install any other browser
Those are the things that really got them in hot water, and justifiably so as it was clearly anti-competitive (anyone remember Netscape?)
In fact, the above reasons are what made ditch Windows entirely and switch to Linux.
needs a [sic]
I know it's not you but compliment should be complEment in, "That is a compliment to what an investor might do."
Re: Re: Re: What about certain genres?
Shit, if you guys want to talk about great movies with a low budget, you must check out Primer.
I had heard it was ~$20,000 but Wikipedia says it was $7,000 (yes, that's the correct number of 0's and the comman is in the right place).
And it truly is an EXCELLENT film. Check it out.
Re: DreamSpark
Is that not affordable?
I guess, in the same way that "the first hit's always free" is affordable.
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First read, then comment.
You don't think that people could donate their old computers WITH windows on them?
Another linux nut trying to poison the minds of the young.
Well, at least those minds seem to be functioning, which is more than can be said for you.
Re:
Yep.
Re: Re: If you have an idea, then do it right so nobody copies it.
As Thomas Edison said, anything worth achieving is 5% inspiration, and 95% perspiration.
Or, as Nikola Tesla said in reference to Edison:
Re: Re: Re: Show me the money.
Thanks guys. Yes, I did misread it - I thought it was $95K cumulatively, not $95K to each. Cheers
Show me the money.
Just curious ... quoted in the article is this from Ragesh Tangri and Mark Lemley:
Here, the only imminent event was the disbursement of just over $95,000 to the National Wildlife Fund and the American Cancer ...
But, if you look here the total amount raised is $220K.
So, where's the other $125K? Just wondering.
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Hey Hmmmm ... I bet you didn't think we'd notice, but in your post above you conveniently left out the part in your own link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft that says:
In common usage, theft is the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
And yet here you are saying
In the theft of intellectual properly, its almost always, making a copy
Seriously?
It's a copy and by your own(redacted) definition most certainly not theft.
I do have to say that I really appreciate your thoughtful and restrained approach to this subject, but you really tied yourself in an intellectual knot there.
intellectually honest
An intellectually honest discussion...
I'm surprised you would think the News Corp, the folks behind Fox News, are even capable of an intellectually honest discussion, either in terms of intellect or honesty.
(Note: this is not a reflection on their ideology: they can subscribe to whichever ideas they choose. It is a statement against them pretending to be "Fair and Balanced" when they are so clearly not.)
Pirates!
I have to say I LOVE the way he uses the term 'pirate' but uses it in the opposite way it's normally used today:
To think of those solemn donkeys breaking a little child's heart with their ignorant rubbish about plagiarism! I couldn't sleep for blaspheming about it last night. Why, their whole lives, their whole histories, all their learning, all their thoughts, all their opinions were one solid rock of plagiarism, and they didn't know it and never suspected it. A gang of dull and hoary pirates piously setting themselves the task of disciplining and purifying a kitten that they think they've caught filching a chop! Oh, dam—
I think I'll call IP maximalists "hoary pirates" from now on. ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This is a sad move indeed
Im not linux hater, but, I also dont see why people try and say its better then windows for desktop use...
Yea, that's obvious, especially when you start your comment with:
shhhh you will upset the lintard....
Regardless ...
but using linux for the average desktop user who does more then brows and word process from time to time......isnt worth the pain of trying to teach them to do stuff that in windows only takes a few clicks.
See, this is just a matter of conditioning. I got off the MS train way back in '98 (the browser/antitrust thing being the primary reason (but there are many more - why should I support such an unethical company?), and these days on the very rare occasions when I'm forced to use Windows I'm always left thinking, "Wtf!?!? Why is everything so hard to do in Windows?"
I use Linux and am proficient with it. You (apparently) use Windows and are (apparently) proficient there. See what I'm saying?
Re:
+10
Re: 'Lawsuits arrrrrr Us' was sued today...
Hey! I represent Car Talk, and I'm here to tell you that you will be shortly receiving notice of our lawsuit for copyright infringement.
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can/can*t
Re:
You can control your OS? Are you that feeble?
It's obvious ...
It's obvious that the whole reason Righthaven can't continue is that all the pirates stole all the money from the artists who would be normally paying Righthaven to represent them ...
Er, wait ... what?
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Roughly the same as the **AA has. Your point?
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Impossible? How does the Pirate Bay manage to do it then?
I know! Magic!