I have to say I LOVE the way he uses the term 'pirate' but uses it in the opposite way it's normally used today:
To think of those solemn donkeys breaking a little child's heart with their ignorant rubbish about plagiarism! I couldn't sleep for blaspheming about it last night. Why, their whole lives, their whole histories, all their learning, all their thoughts, all their opinions were one solid rock of plagiarism, and they didn't know it and never suspected it. A gang of dull and hoary pirates piously setting themselves the task of disciplining and purifying a kitten that they think they've caught filching a chop! Oh, dam—
I think I'll call IP maximalists "hoary pirates" from now on. ;-)
Im not linux hater, but, I also dont see why people try and say its better then windows for desktop use...
Yea, that's obvious, especially when you start your comment with:
shhhh you will upset the lintard....
Regardless ...
but using linux for the average desktop user who does more then brows and word process from time to time......isnt worth the pain of trying to teach them to do stuff that in windows only takes a few clicks.
See, this is just a matter of conditioning. I got off the MS train way back in '98 (the browser/antitrust thing being the primary reason (but there are many more - why should I support such an unethical company?), and these days on the very rare occasions when I'm forced to use Windows I'm always left thinking, "Wtf!?!? Why is everything so hard to do in Windows?"
I use Linux and am proficient with it. You (apparently) use Windows and are (apparently) proficient there. See what I'm saying?
It's obvious that the whole reason Righthaven can't continue is that all the pirates stole all the money from the artists who would be normally paying Righthaven to represent them ...
They want it now, they want it all, they want it cheap, they want it delivered in a million different formats, and they want it whenever and wherever without restriction. ... and they want it so cheap that it's impossible to provide.
Impossible? How does the Pirate Bay manage to do it then?
"...intellectual property (exclusive rights over artistic creations, inventions, etc.), although the latter is not always as widely recognized or enforced."
You know why it's not "widely recognized or enforced"? It's because it's a made-up term, a sort of neuro-linguistic programming to get you to believe that ideas are some sort of property.
I guess you missed the fact that I was replying not to the OP (who you're quoting) but to the AC who suggests that the Techdirt community isn't sympathetic to the OP because we don't support SOPA et al.
You're right, though: I should have made it more clear that I wasn't attacking the OP's comments, which I think are reasonable and fair. I just thought it worthwhile to point out to those who think we need SOPA what a miniscule percentage of the population they're pretending to protect (anyone with any reason knows that these types of laws are really just intended to keep the fat cats fat).
"...you are looking in the wrong direction here on this blog for the support you most definitely need and deserve."
And that support would be ... what? Creating even more absurd and draconian IP laws with something like SOPA? Let's use the OPs original figures to look at this, and be generous by using the higher "400 thousand of us who do this for a living" figure.
That equates to 0.013% of the US population.
You want to set up a system that "helps" and "protects" less than 1 in 10,000 people, while screwing over everyone else ... oh, and stifling free speech and breaking the internet while you're at it? Really?
You have obviously never stood in front of a judge for a crime you didn't commit with a public defender. For what it's worth, I have. And I can tell you that they are worse than useless.
Here's a little clue for you: look up where the money comes from that pays a PD's salary. Their checks are signed by ... (wait for it!) the DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
Are you a total moron? You say, "You were not satisfied with the product, so you didn't buy. Congrats."
But, HE DID! How did you miss him saying, "So, I buy a different Blu Ray form a different distributor, and a couple of other unrelated items instead." ????
For fuck's sake. He's being underserved so he went somewhere else AND BOUGHT EVEN MORE STUFF!!!!
How do you really expect anyone to take you seriously?
I think you're right that we don't have a truly free market, that we haven't had one in a while, and that what we have now is corporatism.
Where I think we may differ, however, is how we got here. You say that it's been decades or more since we had a free market, so the implied assertion is that we did at one time. So, how did we get from there to here? My opinion is that a free market will cause what we're seeing today. I think monopolies were being created and that people realized what a Bad Thing this would be so they tried to regulate to prevent it. However, the corporations were able to infiltrate and corrupt the regulation process.
I just don't think there's any way to avoid this happening if you allow a free market to run loose. They are always going to head toward monopolies and will always gain the power/influence to subvert the system.
In the end, I think we really DO know what a free market will do.
Pirates!
I have to say I LOVE the way he uses the term 'pirate' but uses it in the opposite way it's normally used today:
To think of those solemn donkeys breaking a little child's heart with their ignorant rubbish about plagiarism! I couldn't sleep for blaspheming about it last night. Why, their whole lives, their whole histories, all their learning, all their thoughts, all their opinions were one solid rock of plagiarism, and they didn't know it and never suspected it. A gang of dull and hoary pirates piously setting themselves the task of disciplining and purifying a kitten that they think they've caught filching a chop! Oh, dam—
I think I'll call IP maximalists "hoary pirates" from now on. ;-)
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Im not linux hater, but, I also dont see why people try and say its better then windows for desktop use...
Yea, that's obvious, especially when you start your comment with:
shhhh you will upset the lintard....
Regardless ...
but using linux for the average desktop user who does more then brows and word process from time to time......isnt worth the pain of trying to teach them to do stuff that in windows only takes a few clicks.
See, this is just a matter of conditioning. I got off the MS train way back in '98 (the browser/antitrust thing being the primary reason (but there are many more - why should I support such an unethical company?), and these days on the very rare occasions when I'm forced to use Windows I'm always left thinking, "Wtf!?!? Why is everything so hard to do in Windows?"
I use Linux and am proficient with it. You (apparently) use Windows and are (apparently) proficient there. See what I'm saying?
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+10
Re: 'Lawsuits arrrrrr Us' was sued today...
Hey! I represent Car Talk, and I'm here to tell you that you will be shortly receiving notice of our lawsuit for copyright infringement.
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can/can*t
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You can control your OS? Are you that feeble?
It's obvious ...
It's obvious that the whole reason Righthaven can't continue is that all the pirates stole all the money from the artists who would be normally paying Righthaven to represent them ...
Er, wait ... what?
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Roughly the same as the **AA has. Your point?
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Impossible? How does the Pirate Bay manage to do it then?
I know! Magic!
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Put your hands on your hips!
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Jay, I have never read a post of yours that had made any sense to me.
No shit
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Who made up the term?
IP maximalists. Duh.
You obviously know this, otherwise you wouldn't claim to know the motivations of the person(s) who made up the term, right?
Money. Duh.
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So, it was once property (in this case Herman Melville's intellectual property) but once it moved into public domain it lost its property-ness?
How does that make any sense?
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To quote your Wikipedia article:
"...intellectual property (exclusive rights over artistic creations, inventions, etc.), although the latter is not always as widely recognized or enforced."
You know why it's not "widely recognized or enforced"? It's because it's a made-up term, a sort of neuro-linguistic programming to get you to believe that ideas are some sort of property.
And you fell for it.
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I guess you missed the fact that I was replying not to the OP (who you're quoting) but to the AC who suggests that the Techdirt community isn't sympathetic to the OP because we don't support SOPA et al.
You're right, though: I should have made it more clear that I wasn't attacking the OP's comments, which I think are reasonable and fair. I just thought it worthwhile to point out to those who think we need SOPA what a miniscule percentage of the population they're pretending to protect (anyone with any reason knows that these types of laws are really just intended to keep the fat cats fat).
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"...you are looking in the wrong direction here on this blog for the support you most definitely need and deserve."
And that support would be ... what? Creating even more absurd and draconian IP laws with something like SOPA? Let's use the OPs original figures to look at this, and be generous by using the higher "400 thousand of us who do this for a living" figure.
That equates to 0.013% of the US population.
You want to set up a system that "helps" and "protects" less than 1 in 10,000 people, while screwing over everyone else ... oh, and stifling free speech and breaking the internet while you're at it? Really?
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hahahaha
You have obviously never stood in front of a judge for a crime you didn't commit with a public defender. For what it's worth, I have. And I can tell you that they are worse than useless.
Here's a little clue for you: look up where the money comes from that pays a PD's salary. Their checks are signed by ... (wait for it!) the DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
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Are you a total moron? You say, "You were not satisfied with the product, so you didn't buy. Congrats."
But, HE DID! How did you miss him saying, "So, I buy a different Blu Ray form a different distributor, and a couple of other unrelated items instead." ????
For fuck's sake. He's being underserved so he went somewhere else AND BOUGHT EVEN MORE STUFF!!!!
How do you really expect anyone to take you seriously?
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"Then the other 42% floats, and is therefore a witch!"
Without a doubt that's the funniest comment I've ever seen on this forum. Too bad it will "whoosh" so many people.
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Thanks jenningsthecat, appreciate your comments.
I think you're right that we don't have a truly free market, that we haven't had one in a while, and that what we have now is corporatism.
Where I think we may differ, however, is how we got here. You say that it's been decades or more since we had a free market, so the implied assertion is that we did at one time. So, how did we get from there to here? My opinion is that a free market will cause what we're seeing today. I think monopolies were being created and that people realized what a Bad Thing this would be so they tried to regulate to prevent it. However, the corporations were able to infiltrate and corrupt the regulation process.
I just don't think there's any way to avoid this happening if you allow a free market to run loose. They are always going to head toward monopolies and will always gain the power/influence to subvert the system.
In the end, I think we really DO know what a free market will do.
cheers