Modplan's Favorite Techdirt Posts Of The Week
from the lots-to-talk-about dept
This week's "favorites of the week" post comes from Modplan. He's not the most prolific commenter, but I always enjoy his thoughtful responses.
First, a thanks to Mike for asking me to write this week's post. When approached to do the favorite posts of the week, I was initially worried I wouldn't be able to find much of interest in a week I thought it wasn't as eventful of a week as it turned out to be when looking back for the selections, so I took a few swigs of my kool-aid and prepared for the inevitable drop in value that follows from doing anything for free and got writing. I only hope the following selections and my musings are at least of mild interest to even just a few of you.
I've been following the "Freedom Box" project for quite a while after first seeing some of Eben Moglen's speeches regarding freedom, the web and free software, which had also inspired other projects like Diaspora, so it's no surprise that the article "Sometimes 'Piracy' & Freedom Look Remarkably Similar" was something of particular interest. I think the article leads into a point I'd personally been thinking about for while, in that much of what makes the web so great at freedom of speech is also fundamentally the same as what makes it great for widespread piracy. To attack piracy is to often end up -- inadvertently or not -- attacking the same things that give us a greater freedom of speech and efficiency. With modern attempts at attacking the former in some ways inhibiting the latter, they result in rather ham-fisted ways of working around that technologically, legally and PR wise. I'd be interested to see, if these kinds of devices take off, what precisely will be demanded to be done to combat the higher chances of piracy that seem will inevitably come with the greater protection of privacy and free speech.
Next up is the story of how the Tolkien estate is trying to put a stop to a historical fiction book involving the deceased author. I think we can all understand at some point the feeling of needing to fight back against something said that's untrue about us or the need to not be associated with something we don't support or like, but it seems like publicity laws, as they are, will just continue to be abused. I'm not sure what merit cases involving deceased authors and Hulk Hogan impersonations have outside of getting in the way of what seems like perfectly valid forms of criticism and bad comedy, regardless of any fears of association.
Speaking of overly broad rights and protections, I'm reminded of the story on the EU and Korea trade agreement, which to me didn't appear to get a lot of attention the first time round. Though I think I only need to point out this particular part to show just how bad this agreement is:
The data exclusivity provision prevents generic drug manufacturers from relying on data used by the patentee for market authorisation. Clinical test data generated by the patent holder, for example, therefore cannot be used for market authorisation of a generic drug using the same substance, obliging the generic drug users to reiterate the tests.If only every society were required to reinvent the wheel, we'd all have teleporters by now.
Moving swiftly on, here's a case we can all learn from with Sweden fining a file sharer €200 ($311, working out at $7 a song). I'm sure this is something the USTR will balk at, but sometimes the US (and us at Techdirt) can get so involved in debating, arguing and extending its own laws, they forget there's a whole world out there we can communicate with and learn from, not merely try to coerce into our ways, with more reasonable file sharing damages certainly being one of those areas.
I'd also like to briefly highlight the stories of the US paying for software that didn't work, the revolving door between Government and industry , and where would we be without ICE admitting to taking down 84,000 domains for the sake of 10 -- not only did the Government give plenty more ammo this week to show themselves to be incompetent and untrustworthy, but they also gave us yet more reasons to dislike the patent system. They really worked had this week didn't they? Just think that if they hadn't done all this work, our national security would be in danger.
To put this post to bed, I'd like to end with more positive stories -- TED's success in opening up its content to the world, a porn company deciding to work with rather than against pirates and its customers, and that cheap video games are not necessarily bad for the industry. I think the story of TED in particular helps show that not only is cheap and free not necessarily as devaluing or industry-destroying as is regularly claimed, but can, in fact, lead to more success and a better situation for all. It's been a regular point at Techdirt that it's not always a zero-sum game when it comes to freeing content and making money, it's just a matter of thinking beyond being simply a gatekeeper.
That's it from me, back to lurking in the comments section from now on.


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You're hilarious.
I'm guessing Lady Gaga isn't exactly poor either. So why is handing over money to her for shiny plastic disks and MP3's any less reasonable than handing over money to Amanda Palmer for...MP3's, plastic disks, vinyl records and art books? Looking at the Kickstarter tiers, the options for Amanda Palmer are actually more reasonable. $1 for the album, extra songs and backer only content? Then how are the labels getting away with 99c a song?
The only way your analogy would make sense is if the rich dude was also giving new sports cars to those who backed him, at a more reasonable price than most other dealers would sell them at. I'm really not sure how that'd be a bad thing.
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Which completely misses the point of Kickstarter. By definition of being a backer, you get albums and merch for paying. Even the lowest tier gives you the (presumably MP3 or FLAC when it's out) album and other content only for those who backed. All above tiers come with additional content and merchandise.
Your entire ranting against her then is based on ignorance that can be cleared up simply by bothering to read the Kickstarter page to find out what the money is actually going towards.
Re: Re: Re: Not sure how I feel
I thought the definition of being in the music business was accepting/taking money from people who consider themselves your fans.
How else do you make ends meet in the music business? Do the labels run on unicorns and fairy dust?
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Well for one, an entire book on the subject of how drug companies have lied and distorted in a variety of ways, benefiting from being able to patent publicly funded research amongst other things:
http://www.amazon.com/The-800-Million-Pill-behind/dp/0520239458?tag=duckduckgo-d-20
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And this too:
I like how you deliberately try and exclude the "patent thicket crap". Why is that not an example? A variety of firms who have bought up large amounts of patents that don't represent any significant advances (in many cases covering already available functionality) suing each other purely to limit competitors. But for some arbitrary reasoning, that doesn't count apparently.
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And once again no one said we should. Does it usually take you 3 times to read an article before it sinks in?
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It's also an argument that was never made. You may want to read the article again, extra carefully this time. What was argued was that in certain instances allowing the product to be made (and perhaps without having to pay the patent holder) should be something that can be considered as promoting the progress as well.
From the article:
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What's funny about this is that he takes no account of marketing. Indie films just don't have the same "cultural impact" because... well, just because. Certainly it isn't anything to do with hugely expensive marketing campaigns so people actually know about the film compared to indies without the budget.
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Do you really not know your history?
It was argued that the VCR would kill TV because it allowed people to commit piracy, and they should be allowed to effectively ban it. It's only use as far as they were concerned was piracy. Courts ruled that time shifting was fair use, and entertainment companies made lots of money from home video regardless.
So before you claim people should move on to services that aren't pirate havens, you might want to provide the name of a service that:
a) Isn't some sort of haven to piracy
b) Is still useful to artists wanting to distribute their work for free (to them) and free of charge (to their fans)
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Oops, meant to be a reply to this AC: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120404/21120918379/just-how-much-do-shows-like-game-thrones-owe-t o-piracy.shtml#c147
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Not really.
For example, it was found that pirates are more likely to buy CD's by Industry Canada.
Or how about Channels & Conflict: Response to Digital Media Distribution, Impact on Sales and Internet Piracy which found that the lack of legitimate access created an increase in piracy, but not an associated negative effect for DVD sales and other means of paid access.
Or how about research that indicates that piracy boosts anime sales?
I'd say there's a lot of a basis to those claims.
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Personally speaking, I wasn't able to get the book in time for the discussion. Though I've already bought a copy of Copyfraud, so I should be able to contribute questions.
P.S. I think it'd be a good idea to put a little note about the book club in the side bar e.g. "This months is book x, discuss it here!"
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The defeat he's referring to is actually an ongoing process that's been happening for some time. It's called piracy, and it keeps confounding you apparently.
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You seriously make no sense. If someone doesn't want SOPA or SOPA style rules to be made, what about it is any different if it passes as legislation or as a back room deal? If people don't want it, then they're going to fight it regardless. Why is simply letting it pass congress without a fight any more sensible than having it brought via back room deals?
If you're going to talk about more influence over the process, well that's exactly what happened. People asserted what they wanted their representatives to do, and they got it. The fact that the MPAA/RIAA go even further into corruption to make such deals over something as unimportant as entertainment (as you stated yourself) just shows how messed up their priorities are. It's OK for them to corrupt the political process, but not for the public to tell the representatives they vote for what they want.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: You'd be surprised...
It's hardly a difficult concept to understand; unless, of course, one can't understand plain English in the distinction between saying all copyright is an affront to society, or that corporate lobbying for terms that go beyond the death of an author - at a minimum - are an affront to even to the original intent of copyright.
But you have a knack for missing the point, it seems. Disney may still have copyright on their works, but this doesn't mean the case for why they should still have copyright over works that are over 40 years old is a sound one, or a logically consistent one. Particularly for a company for whom significant value appears to depend on a healthy public domain.
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Then tell that to the ac that started the discussion thread in the first place.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120329/02304318285/nytimes-oped-explains-why-infringeme nt-isnt-theft.shtml#c512
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Yes it was.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120329/02304318285/nytimes-oped-explains-why-infringement -isnt-theft.shtml#c2520
You also (repeatedly) completely missed the point of why people were referencing stealing. People were responding to an AC that asserted infringement is akin to stealing, not necessarily claiming it to be themselves.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120329/02304318285/nytimes-oped-explains-why-infri ngement-isnt-theft.shtml#c512
It's also odd that you insist basing your work on the Brothers Grimm is ok, but basing it on Disney works is "cutting corners". A bit of a double standard to say the least.
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Why it seems to not bother you that Disney lobbies for stronger copyright laws, so that it rarely - and at this rate, it sometimes feels like it may never may never - put anything back into the public domain like the authors of whose works they borrowed from freely, eludes me.
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It's also important to note that the nature of open source and its wide use is that it also helps further blur the distinction between creator and consumer. Facebook, Twitter and many others don't just use it, they also produce it and contribute to other projects.
The idea that open source is limited to just a few small companies in their own play area is naive at best.
Re: Re: Re: Monopoly? Nah
Says the guy consistently substituting the labels for "artists". Nobody said anything about artists themselves, only the labels who are the ones making the demands. Artists it appears have nothing to do with this fight other than getting the change from the labels pockets after they've had their hefty cut.
From the linked article on the labels demands:
Re: Re: Perception problem
Which is exactly why Jason Rohrer has been spectacularly unsuccessful as a developer of public domain games. He has never made any money from it in all these years, and shakes his fist at anybody with an eye patch, which is a lot of people thanks to his propensity to stab forks in peoples eyes from all the rage at the freetards he sees on the streets.
Don't forget to mention Nina Paley, the writer of the article you're commenting on, she's never sold a thing either and hates file sharing with a passion.
And let's not even mention Johnathan Coulton. Isn't he homeless or something?