Evidence that Patents hold back research? Alright.
What about Myriad using patents to hold back breast cancer research?
What about the Patents on Oil Eating Bacteria, holding back research on ways to utilize them?
What about the company StemCells using patents to stop a Children's Hospital from researching Brain Cancer for 3 years?
How about the concerns about Craig Vetner's pantent for sythetic biology, and the delays it will cause for research?
Or take a look at MPEG-LA's use of patents to hold back an open standard for Video?
Take a look at the Smartphone patent thicket, and see how fast research can be done for improving that industry?
It talked about how there is no such thing as an unbiased algorithm, and about Microsoft saying Google was anti-competitive, and about competition in the search engine space.
But what the article didn't cover was what the supporters of Search Neutrality were actually trying to achieve. He didn't talk about whether their goals had any actual merit.
Personally, I don't think Mike's previous article was very good. I would have liked to see more about why the actual goals of Search Neutrality supporters are not worth putting time and effort into, or what the best way to achieve those goals are.
I think Mike got close to taking some of the wind out of Search Neutrality supporters' sails when he talked about competition in the search industry. But rather than pointing out how greater competition would allow customers to support the search engine that is achieving those goals without regulation, he instead throws out some statistic comparing search engine competition with operating system competition which does nothing to help point out how corruption in search engine results can be dealt with outside of legislation.
Mike, I agree with you. Total Search Neutrality is stupid.
But that isn't what the supporters are asking for, is it?
The supporters of Search Neutrality don't care that Google is trying to give the User what they are looking for. They care that Google might be giving the User what Google wants them to see.
You should write about that, and whether it has any merit, instead of worrying what Scott Cleland says.
Isn't use for educational purposes, such as in a school choir, one of the biggest areas covered by Fair Use?
I would think that because this is a school-sponsored event, the kids' use of the songs fall under Fair Use, and negate the need to seek out permission.
Another very good point. Unless I made a horrible typo in my GPS, I doubt I'd be looking for Harrods in the same location as Hollands.
By the way, welcome to TechDirt, Nick. If you want to reply to a specific comment, you will see a link labeled 'reply to this comment' under each one. That will save you from having to type out re: (topic name) yourself.
I've asked an actual Moron in a Hurry (myself) if I would be confused. The answer is that if I were driving down the road, looking for a sign that says Harrods, had no idea what a Harrods store looked like, and I saw the Hollands sign, I might be confused, and slow down to get a better look. But that would only be because they have a similar length name, and a matching first letter and last 2 letters. But I would realize the mistake before I even parked or got out of the car, and leave to find my proper destination.
You may be confusing hypocrisy for legality? Let me see if I can explain myself better.
His work is based off of previous work.
Someone else's work is based off of his work.
He's not happy that someone else is building off of his work, even though he did the same thing.
I think that's hypocritical.
Yes, what he did was legal. Yes, what the self-help guru did was illegal. So he does have the legal right to file suit. I just think he's being hypocritical for doing so.
I don't think this article is one of Mike's best works. Harping on the Title seems like a poor choice of points to pick on.
What I would have rather seen is more highlighting of the hypocrisy going on here.
The Author uses someone else's work as the base for his own work, and then turns around and sues someone else who used his work as a base for their work. The hypocrisy here is astonishing.
Maybe it is working, but I'd want to ask if it's working well. Is it possible for the label and Ms. Gaga to be generating even more revenue, if they had pursued an alternate business model, rather than the old-school model?
1) So, the difference between downloading and recording is that one takes more effort? And that the extra effort must be put up by your fans?
2) What about Fair Use? Doesn't that limit what control you have?
3) Say I bought a CD with your music. For the sake of simplicity, lets say I bought it in the normal fashion, and without any special 'limited time', or 'right to withdraw' clauses in the contract of sale. Say the CD Broke, got scratched, or was somehow otherwise damaged. To rectify this, I download your music, and burn a new CD, to replace the broken one. Do you think this should be allowed?
The Response?
How will Quackwatch respond to the lawsuit? Are they planning to fight, or are they looking to settle?
Re:
Evidence that Patents hold back research? Alright.
What about Myriad using patents to hold back breast cancer research?
What about the Patents on Oil Eating Bacteria, holding back research on ways to utilize them?
What about the company StemCells using patents to stop a Children's Hospital from researching Brain Cancer for 3 years?
How about the concerns about Craig Vetner's pantent for sythetic biology, and the delays it will cause for research?
Or take a look at MPEG-LA's use of patents to hold back an open standard for Video?
Take a look at the Smartphone patent thicket, and see how fast research can be done for improving that industry?
Re: Re: Cutting through the rhretoric
It talked about how there is no such thing as an unbiased algorithm, and about Microsoft saying Google was anti-competitive, and about competition in the search engine space.
But what the article didn't cover was what the supporters of Search Neutrality were actually trying to achieve. He didn't talk about whether their goals had any actual merit.
Personally, I don't think Mike's previous article was very good. I would have liked to see more about why the actual goals of Search Neutrality supporters are not worth putting time and effort into, or what the best way to achieve those goals are.
I think Mike got close to taking some of the wind out of Search Neutrality supporters' sails when he talked about competition in the search industry. But rather than pointing out how greater competition would allow customers to support the search engine that is achieving those goals without regulation, he instead throws out some statistic comparing search engine competition with operating system competition which does nothing to help point out how corruption in search engine results can be dealt with outside of legislation.
Cutting through the rhretoric
Mike, I agree with you. Total Search Neutrality is stupid.
But that isn't what the supporters are asking for, is it?
The supporters of Search Neutrality don't care that Google is trying to give the User what they are looking for. They care that Google might be giving the User what Google wants them to see.
You should write about that, and whether it has any merit, instead of worrying what Scott Cleland says.
Insulting
Maybe the big-name media outlets have grown too timid to publish something that might be construed as libel.
Re: Re: Fair Use?
Were your H.S. and university just being taking precautions, or was there some legal obligation for those actions?
Re: From wikipedia
Duderino, I think Mike is referring to the characters' use of songs in the fictional world of the show, rather than the actual producers of the show.
Fair Use?
Isn't use for educational purposes, such as in a school choir, one of the biggest areas covered by Fair Use?
I would think that because this is a school-sponsored event, the kids' use of the songs fall under Fair Use, and negate the need to seek out permission.
Re: Which are you asking?
Just exactly what are you trying to imply about me?
Re: re: survey says
Another very good point. Unless I made a horrible typo in my GPS, I doubt I'd be looking for Harrods in the same location as Hollands.
By the way, welcome to TechDirt, Nick. If you want to reply to a specific comment, you will see a link labeled 'reply to this comment' under each one. That will save you from having to type out re: (topic name) yourself.
Take it easy. :)
Survey Says
I've asked an actual Moron in a Hurry (myself) if I would be confused. The answer is that if I were driving down the road, looking for a sign that says Harrods, had no idea what a Harrods store looked like, and I saw the Hollands sign, I might be confused, and slow down to get a better look. But that would only be because they have a similar length name, and a matching first letter and last 2 letters. But I would realize the mistake before I even parked or got out of the car, and leave to find my proper destination.
Re: Design Firm Or Hollands?
According to the original article, the cafe sign is based off the way Mr. Holland's wife signs her name.
Re: Re: Wrong Point
You may be confusing hypocrisy for legality? Let me see if I can explain myself better.
His work is based off of previous work.
Someone else's work is based off of his work.
He's not happy that someone else is building off of his work, even though he did the same thing.
I think that's hypocritical.
Yes, what he did was legal. Yes, what the self-help guru did was illegal. So he does have the legal right to file suit. I just think he's being hypocritical for doing so.
Re: Re: Running bet ....
Thats me. the 89 guesser.
Wrong Point
I don't think this article is one of Mike's best works. Harping on the Title seems like a poor choice of points to pick on.
What I would have rather seen is more highlighting of the hypocrisy going on here.
The Author uses someone else's work as the base for his own work, and then turns around and sues someone else who used his work as a base for their work. The hypocrisy here is astonishing.
Re: Re: Re: Point of Information.2) What about Fair Use? Doesn't that limit what control you have?
He's not paying me either. I'm just here for my personal enjoyment.
Re: Major label behind it
Maybe it is working, but I'd want to ask if it's working well. Is it possible for the label and Ms. Gaga to be generating even more revenue, if they had pursued an alternate business model, rather than the old-school model?
Re: Point of Information.
1) So, the difference between downloading and recording is that one takes more effort? And that the extra effort must be put up by your fans?
2) What about Fair Use? Doesn't that limit what control you have?
3) Say I bought a CD with your music. For the sake of simplicity, lets say I bought it in the normal fashion, and without any special 'limited time', or 'right to withdraw' clauses in the contract of sale. Say the CD Broke, got scratched, or was somehow otherwise damaged. To rectify this, I download your music, and burn a new CD, to replace the broken one. Do you think this should be allowed?
Re: Mike , Point of Information.
I'm not Mike, but do you mind if I raise a couple questions?
1) what is the difference between recording something that you are listening to/streaming online, and downloading a copy?
2) Do you realize that your control over your copyrighted art is limited, not complete?
3) How do you feel about situations where someone is denied access to music they have legally purchased?
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I hate to say it, but I'm in the same boat. I didn't have a lot of respect for her and thought she was a Britney Spears wanna-be.
Maybe there is more to her than that.