Do you think after the first 10 minutes that the FBI agents wanted to keep doing this for 5 days ??? They are like any other workers.. They filled out a report because they were told too. Hopefully we hire some smart folks to be FBI agents, they knew right away this was a waste of time I bet. How much other surveillance and such do you think is just write something down so you can tell your boss agent that you did it, so he can tell his boss it was done. $$$ down the drain .. I mean here in my hometown, if you don't buy a dog license and don't call in to tell them the dog is dead, they send 2 (not 1 but 2) animal control agents to your house to check if you have a dog that is not licensed. But we still have drug dealers and drive by shootings, just no unlicensed dogs. What a colossal waste of dollars by our bureaucratic entities in most cases.
Now if there was a real threat they hopefully would have recognized it and put the proper effort into it. But this way they got 5 days of per-diem and mostly free time out of the office, didn't have a choice so they filled out paperwork to make it look like they were doing something besides drinking coffee and bitching about what a stupid assignment this was.
Those emails and calls would have been more effective it everyone had been a 5$ donation to some PAC that would actually represent an anti-SOPA type point of view. Since we know there are so few good politicians, I am sure such a PAC could probably use that money to lobby a few of the bad ones away from their current point of view.
It all comes down to buying influence (or good government) - odd how Eddy Murphy had it all right, but then not many watched "Distinguished Gentlemen" even for free.
When there is demand, supply will appear. The war on drugs is so successful right? That is a product that requires physical setup/transportation/distribution etc... digital products are several orders of magnitude easier to obtain/distribute. Same stupid mistakes over and over again. The only folks this will harm are innocent/honest people. Then some wonder wonder why we have such a low approval rating of politicians.
You can't fix stupid.... one of the few absolute truths left in the world.
If I hard coded an IP into a host table to get around a DNS block and connected via SSL to a web page - wouldn't that be circumventing?? Even an SSL session could be construed as circumventing - so if I did connect SSL to a site, then it was blocked w/o a hearing or injunction - would I be guilty of circumventing because I had been encrypting my traffic. I could expect that any encryption would be circumventing if you want to take it that far.
As Richard Pryor said -- the American Just-us system for Just-us with lawyers ... or maybe they should rename this the "No-Lawyer Left Behind Act"
Apparently the grin didn't come through -- I take the world less seriously every day, if I couldn't laugh I might have to go physco on some folks.. :)
Then the article isn't totally wrong - they have some real points. I have to admit as a person who has coded in numerous languages and have installed/supported several operating systems -- C & Unix are very powerful but overtly complex and not user friendly. I'll take pascal over C any day. "BTW" is does anyone still use Pascal??
I used to code for Accuray(ABB) coating control systems on a Honywell Mini-Computer too. Big box storing code on 8" disks - loved being able to edit memory registers directly while it's running! The Teletype machine for input sucked though!
It's obvious Amazon know's how important the digital side is, B&N obviously does too. B&N is doing the only thing it can to try and punish DC for exclusive contracts. But as always this probably came down to money. B&N wasn't willing to pay what DC wanted for e-rights, exclusive or not, so it didn't get them. Amazon was willing to pay. They are bigger and this is them pushing DC plus B&N around probably. Amazon has had this practice for years - using it's size & cash to push out competitors. I don't see it as stupid on B&N's part ... just trying to hold it's ground so other vendors will think about the possible downsides to exclusive contracts.
>>No it's not. His first duty is to not violate the rights of individuals. If that means he leaves in a body-bag, well, that's sad but that's the way it is.
Wrong. He didn't violate anyone's rights.. In the US you ahve 1st amendment rights but you can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater. You don't have the right to attack someone and not expect a response. In the video the kid had a chance to run away but didn't, he attacked - was he the agressor/victim? Who knows. Cop probably didn't but he certainly doesn't need to risk his life to find out. Not knowing the context, he might have made the right decision. You don't know, I don't know, but based on the video, I will give him benifit of the doubt. Should he have handled it different, perhaps, but your or anyones monday morning quarterbacking doesn't count -- unless there is more evidence than this video, I will be on the cop's side.
As to waiting, he walked up and took action. Once again, with nothing more than this video -- you can't evaluate the entire situation you can't correctly judge. Would be nice to have more info. Does the cop have a history of excessive force, does the kid(s) have history.
Still I not you didn't comment on the fact that video only shows one side, all the kid(s) were perfect angels right? If you are judging the actions of context why do you just accept that side? Easy to and fits the every cop is a jerk (plenty are BTW) .. mantra. The guy who pepper sprayed the ladies -- he should be crucified -- plenty of context and evidence he was wrong, here not the case.
I am in the camp of out of context -- I don't see that much wrong with his actions and give him the benifit of the doubt. Could it be to agressive, probably, but I don't know the context so I won't judge to harshly. The cop didn't start the fight, it's just his job to end it before it escalates - who knows what they were yelling - maybe the kid was saying he's going to be shooting someone.
The kid or kids could have a history, the cop is by himself. Does anyone know - maybe he broke up a fight last night with these kids, or they are known gang members, previous arrestees, or just boys who are being boys. Odd no one on news front seems to ask this question - it's not the storyline that sells now is it.
Also if he'd called for backup and the kid(s) got hurt he would be crucified for not stepping in quick enough. I doubt he aimed for the kids face too - tasers aren't that accurate.
Another point, he's out numbered 3 to 1 min (lots of other folks around that might get involved) he's at big risk of someone behind him or outside the immediate fight, etc.. pulling a knife or gun or whatever. His first duty is to go home alive IMHO.
Lastly it is funny though, in these situations, the one who gets the bullet or taser or whatever always seems to be angel among the devils.
But when Jasmine smiles when she first sees the magic carpet over the balcaony, it was the first thought I had. Always a girl for the guy with a nice car.
But when Jasmine smiles when she first sees the magic carpet over the balcaony, it was the first thought I had. Always a girl for the guy with a nice car.
Re: Re: The stock market is rigged
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086465/quotes?qt=qt0539532
better if I put in the link...
Re: The stock market is rigged
read the link -- a quote from Trading Place about who makes the money on Wall Street....
Gotta look at this from the point of the FBI Agents
Do you think after the first 10 minutes that the FBI agents wanted to keep doing this for 5 days ??? They are like any other workers.. They filled out a report because they were told too. Hopefully we hire some smart folks to be FBI agents, they knew right away this was a waste of time I bet. How much other surveillance and such do you think is just write something down so you can tell your boss agent that you did it, so he can tell his boss it was done. $$$ down the drain .. I mean here in my hometown, if you don't buy a dog license and don't call in to tell them the dog is dead, they send 2 (not 1 but 2) animal control agents to your house to check if you have a dog that is not licensed. But we still have drug dealers and drive by shootings, just no unlicensed dogs. What a colossal waste of dollars by our bureaucratic entities in most cases.
Now if there was a real threat they hopefully would have recognized it and put the proper effort into it. But this way they got 5 days of per-diem and mostly free time out of the office, didn't have a choice so they filled out paperwork to make it look like they were doing something besides drinking coffee and bitching about what a stupid assignment this was.
Re:
They must all be on 3g -- so 12 seconds ago....
For the truth - follow the money
Those emails and calls would have been more effective it everyone had been a 5$ donation to some PAC that would actually represent an anti-SOPA type point of view. Since we know there are so few good politicians, I am sure such a PAC could probably use that money to lobby a few of the bad ones away from their current point of view.
It all comes down to buying influence (or good government) - odd how Eddy Murphy had it all right, but then not many watched "Distinguished Gentlemen" even for free.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104114/
MikeC
Locks only keep honest people out. You can't fix stupid.
When there is demand, supply will appear. The war on drugs is so successful right? That is a product that requires physical setup/transportation/distribution etc... digital products are several orders of magnitude easier to obtain/distribute. Same stupid mistakes over and over again. The only folks this will harm are innocent/honest people. Then some wonder wonder why we have such a low approval rating of politicians.
You can't fix stupid.... one of the few absolute truths left in the world.
Hard Coded Host Table - ILLEGAL??
If I hard coded an IP into a host table to get around a DNS block and connected via SSL to a web page - wouldn't that be circumventing?? Even an SSL session could be construed as circumventing - so if I did connect SSL to a site, then it was blocked w/o a hearing or injunction - would I be guilty of circumventing because I had been encrypting my traffic. I could expect that any encryption would be circumventing if you want to take it that far.
As Richard Pryor said -- the American Just-us system for Just-us with lawyers ... or maybe they should rename this the "No-Lawyer Left Behind Act"
Re: Re: Unix & C were a hoax anyway
Apparently the grin didn't come through -- I take the world less seriously every day, if I couldn't laugh I might have to go physco on some folks.. :)
Then the article isn't totally wrong - they have some real points. I have to admit as a person who has coded in numerous languages and have installed/supported several operating systems -- C & Unix are very powerful but overtly complex and not user friendly. I'll take pascal over C any day. "BTW" is does anyone still use Pascal??
I used to code for Accuray(ABB) coating control systems on a Honywell Mini-Computer too. Big box storing code on 8" disks - loved being able to edit memory registers directly while it's running! The Teletype machine for input sucked though!
Mike
Re: Re: Re:
Wish we could edit these posts -- Card Catalog .. not sure where Catalonia came from!!
Unix & C were a hoax anyway
http://www.math.psu.edu/tseng/unix-hoax.txt
Richie himself help bring to the light -- back to pascal everyone.
Re: Re:
I just tell them to think of card Catalonia and the dewey decimal system... it does ring with some of the older folks.
Isn't Ice Pirates a bad Sci-Fi Movie
Oh if only this were the same thing.
B&N Knows what's important - So does Amazon!
It's obvious Amazon know's how important the digital side is, B&N obviously does too. B&N is doing the only thing it can to try and punish DC for exclusive contracts. But as always this probably came down to money. B&N wasn't willing to pay what DC wanted for e-rights, exclusive or not, so it didn't get them. Amazon was willing to pay. They are bigger and this is them pushing DC plus B&N around probably. Amazon has had this practice for years - using it's size & cash to push out competitors. I don't see it as stupid on B&N's part ... just trying to hold it's ground so other vendors will think about the possible downsides to exclusive contracts.
Mike
Re: Re: Re:
BTW - I do understand this is in Canada -- US civil rights is an example.
Re: Re:
>"His first duty is to go home alive IMHO."
>>No it's not. His first duty is to not violate the rights of individuals. If that means he leaves in a body-bag, well, that's sad but that's the way it is.
Wrong. He didn't violate anyone's rights.. In the US you ahve 1st amendment rights but you can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater. You don't have the right to attack someone and not expect a response. In the video the kid had a chance to run away but didn't, he attacked - was he the agressor/victim? Who knows. Cop probably didn't but he certainly doesn't need to risk his life to find out. Not knowing the context, he might have made the right decision. You don't know, I don't know, but based on the video, I will give him benifit of the doubt. Should he have handled it different, perhaps, but your or anyones monday morning quarterbacking doesn't count -- unless there is more evidence than this video, I will be on the cop's side.
As to waiting, he walked up and took action. Once again, with nothing more than this video -- you can't evaluate the entire situation you can't correctly judge. Would be nice to have more info. Does the cop have a history of excessive force, does the kid(s) have history.
Still I not you didn't comment on the fact that video only shows one side, all the kid(s) were perfect angels right? If you are judging the actions of context why do you just accept that side? Easy to and fits the every cop is a jerk (plenty are BTW) .. mantra. The guy who pepper sprayed the ladies -- he should be crucified -- plenty of context and evidence he was wrong, here not the case.
Re: Re:
Like I said, I doubt he was aiming for the face, that was unlucky - for both of them.
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I am in the camp of out of context -- I don't see that much wrong with his actions and give him the benifit of the doubt. Could it be to agressive, probably, but I don't know the context so I won't judge to harshly. The cop didn't start the fight, it's just his job to end it before it escalates - who knows what they were yelling - maybe the kid was saying he's going to be shooting someone.
The kid or kids could have a history, the cop is by himself. Does anyone know - maybe he broke up a fight last night with these kids, or they are known gang members, previous arrestees, or just boys who are being boys. Odd no one on news front seems to ask this question - it's not the storyline that sells now is it.
Also if he'd called for backup and the kid(s) got hurt he would be crucified for not stepping in quick enough. I doubt he aimed for the kids face too - tasers aren't that accurate.
Another point, he's out numbered 3 to 1 min (lots of other folks around that might get involved) he's at big risk of someone behind him or outside the immediate fight, etc.. pulling a knife or gun or whatever. His first duty is to go home alive IMHO.
Lastly it is funny though, in these situations, the one who gets the bullet or taser or whatever always seems to be angel among the devils.
Re: Unbelievable
for all intents and purposes patents these days seem to last indefinitely, every time a ton are about to expire a way is found to keep them patented
Re: Re: Disney Sexual innuendo
Don't know if YouTube linked showed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s
But when Jasmine smiles when she first sees the magic carpet over the balcaony, it was the first thought I had. Always a girl for the guy with a nice car.
Re: Re: Disney Sexual innuendo
Don't know if YouTube linked showed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s
But when Jasmine smiles when she first sees the magic carpet over the balcaony, it was the first thought I had. Always a girl for the guy with a nice car.