He's debunking the theory that copyright is required to make money off of music or movies. Needing copyright to "sell media" is the only real reason copyright is still around.
I couldn't find the quote, I thought it was in the article about inaccurate stories in the media.
Cracked writers have said in their articles that they're not necessarily required to fact check, and articles can be opinion based. I know they quite often pride themselves because they do at times put out heavy fact checked and cited articles, but their main focus is comedy.
And in that article you mentioned, "5 Big News Stories That Left Out the Most Important Part", they admit they make mistakes.
That didn't stop every news source and website on the planet (including, ahem, us) from declaring it to be the harbinger of sci-fi technologies that we've been dreaming about for years.
That may be a partial quote, but it's the only part that addresses his point.
The original poster was referring to the "purpose" of copyright. The purpose was "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts". The rest of the quote is merely the method they planned to approach it by.
"As the components are free, as in open source and beer, there is nor financial reward to the developers of other incentive for the developers to create what the users require."
This is the same argument people make with copyright works, this very same website has shown this is not true.
And what you state is almost the opposite of what I've come to expect from open source software.
"As a consequence if there is some critically need function required but one in which developers find distasteful then that component will not be produced."
This is the most laughable part of all. This is what I would expect from closed source software sure. Microsoft left Internet Explorer 6 on the market, horribly bugged, for years because there were no browsers to really compete with it. It wasn't until Firefox (an open source browser) came in to compete against it that Microsoft smartened up.
Open source does the opposite because it's being made by the people who use the damn product. In this case we're not talking about a small group of developers who might decide they equally don't like something and exclude it. We're talking about thousands of developers with different concerns. I've never seen something "critical" missing from open source software. I have seen open source missing a feature that was critical to specific businesses, but that is a different story, and has little to do with the overall quality.
"In a free society money is the means by which scarce resources are allocated to the highest needs."
Your quote here, let me fix it.
"In a fiat currency capitalist society money is the chains that binds the most scarce resources to those more likely to abuse it"
"Besides, half a million is hardly successful, my grandma shits out that much during her /ANAL SEEPAGE/ attacks"
Here goes another idiot thinking he can dictate the norm. Only a person with their head in the clouds would think making a half a million isn't successful just because someone else has made more. You greedy empirical fucks won't give up until every other man is just a slave under your boot.
Get this through your head, the world owes you nothing. It is just as willing to put a bullet through your head walking home one evening as it is willing to give you a break. You should feel privileged to have done so well. Go ahead and call others liars and thieves. Is your family wealthy? If so, which of the three ways did they do it that are common to so many other wealthy American's. Was it prostitution? Smuggling? Or slavery?
The world is changing, and you're playing for the wrong side. You are the 1%, and you deserve so much. But people are massing, protesting, fighting. Who do you think is going to save you when you're outnumbered 99 to 1? The police? Don't make me laugh (it hurts my belly). No one else on here is willing to say this, because they're mostly reasonable people, but you're a piece of shit. And I expect you'll get what's coming to you a lot sooner than you think.
"Batman will surely make a ton of money in theatrical but not all movies (TV shows, books, etc) are Batman."
This is one of the things I hate about movies. Do you think Batman just sells because Batman is popular? There have been other Batman movies and shows, this one sells because they're good. Not just because it's Batman. Maybe if making a movie like The Dark Knight Rises is what's needed to make money, creators would take the time to make better movies.
I for one am getting sick of Hollywood making shitty movies just because it will meet the bottom line. More movies like Dark Knight and Avengers please.
"These new display ad units will appear within the calling window of users who do not have Skype Credit or subscriptions when they're making 1:1 Skype-to-Skype audio calls using Skype for Windows."
I would take from that statement this is something Linux and Mac users won't have to deal with.
From reading the article, the ad comes in as a third caller. Skype already has the ability to do three way calling. So some computer dials into your convo, and that computer would basically record that it connected correctly.
I really can't say this enough. There is nothing in this bill that will stop piracy.
I hear a bunch of crap about blocking DNS domains to take down "rogue" sites. Loading a site without the use of DNS requests can be done, not to mention many services (like bit torrent) don't use DNS at all.
Connections can be encrypted, proxy servers can be use to redirect your connection, and internet routes can always be rerouted. And even though it can seem complex, I know 10 year olds that can accomplish these things.
When small businesses can't work because licensing fees are too high, and big industry's still won't budge on their ridiculous prices, piracy will thrive.
You have once again demonstrated that someone can formulate an opinion without a single iota of knowledge related to the subject your are directing your opinion at.
If you can find one example of Ron Paul simply changing his policy to meet public opinion, show me. He's the only politician I have seen that HASN'T changed his opinion based on public opinion (including his stance on the war, economics, Taxes, and laws against the constitution).
He's always stuck to his guns, and many of his stances/opinions are not popular due to most people being brainwashed by the media to think his suggested solutions would be bad for the public. Until years later when he's proved to have been right all along. And STILL people won't listen to him.
I don't know why I'm even posting this, since you're probably one of those people who formulates an opinion, and never changes their mind even when the evidence is right in front of your face.
But seriously, watch some documentaries he's been in (I don't remember the name, but the one about the Federal Reserve). Ron Paul points out things that have been wrong for years, which no one else will take the time to point out.
All this is going to do is make people aware of encryption software to stop their ISP from seeing what they are doing. Then the music industry will have to think up a way to make such software illegal. It's a never ending vicious cycle.
RIAA, MPAA, give it up. You're outnumbered, and we've got you surrounded. Come out peacefully with your hands up, and slowly put down your music licences in the public domain.
He is right you know. Simply declaring something without trying to back it up tells us one of two things.
1.) You simply want people to believe the store is BS
2.) You are twelve and he started it
Maybe you're even lying to yourself. If the story is BS as you say then you should be able to show this is true. If you have no evidence then we would ask you to take a leap of faith and consider that maybe, possibly, a chance that... you may be wrong, and this story isn't BS.
But I believe I have as much faith in you as you have faith in this story. Whenever you will, I will be ready for your one sentence name calling reply.
Why are you getting so upset? You don't seem to realize these people agree with you. Taking something that someone worked hard to make, especially when they create it to make a living, is wrong. No one is trying to rationalize illegal behaviour. But you ignore the help these people try to provide.
It is illegal to kill someone. No one disagrees with this, not that it's illegal or that it's wrong. Someone who has murdered someone else will go to jail for a long time. Has this stopped homicide? Nope. In big cities it is more rampant then ever. So many people have taken to a model that reduces the risk.
1) Walk in groups with your friends (don't walk alone)
2) Don't walk around after dark
3) Make sure someone knows where you are, and call when you reach your destination safely
3) Stay in your vehicle (if driving) until you reach your destination safely.
Techdirt has been dedicated to finding new business models that propel the music industry forward. Instead of attempting their methods, you're simply yelling "I have every right to walk down this dark alley in the middle of the night alone. Murder is illegal and all murderers are douch bags."
You're absolutely right, but it doesn't change anything when someone finds their body the next morning.
No law or legislation will ever stop music piracy. The facts are anyone can do it, and no agency in the world can watch every person at once. The number of people who pirate music are much more than those who have never pirated a single song.
Do yourself a favour, and just think about it. And if you do decide the old model is out of date, remember that you don't have to adopt the models that Techdirt has suggested. Maybe you could come up with something much, much better... maybe.
why hasn't some enterprising electronics engineer come up with a device that sits between the TV and the speakers that recognises when the adverts are about to start and automatically reduces the volume?
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He's debunking the theory that copyright is required to make money off of music or movies. Needing copyright to "sell media" is the only real reason copyright is still around.
Cracked does what they say
I couldn't find the quote, I thought it was in the article about inaccurate stories in the media.
Cracked writers have said in their articles that they're not necessarily required to fact check, and articles can be opinion based. I know they quite often pride themselves because they do at times put out heavy fact checked and cited articles, but their main focus is comedy.
And in that article you mentioned, "5 Big News Stories That Left Out the Most Important Part", they admit they make mistakes.
That didn't stop every news source and website on the planet (including, ahem, us) from declaring it to be the harbinger of sci-fi technologies that we've been dreaming about for years.
Re: Re: Re: Copying IS like theft...
That may be a partial quote, but it's the only part that addresses his point.
The original poster was referring to the "purpose" of copyright. The purpose was "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts". The rest of the quote is merely the method they planned to approach it by.
Read the question before correcting the answer.
Re: Yes!
"As the components are free, as in open source and beer, there is nor financial reward to the developers of other incentive for the developers to create what the users require."
This is the same argument people make with copyright works, this very same website has shown this is not true.
And what you state is almost the opposite of what I've come to expect from open source software.
"As a consequence if there is some critically need function required but one in which developers find distasteful then that component will not be produced."
This is the most laughable part of all. This is what I would expect from closed source software sure. Microsoft left Internet Explorer 6 on the market, horribly bugged, for years because there were no browsers to really compete with it. It wasn't until Firefox (an open source browser) came in to compete against it that Microsoft smartened up.
Open source does the opposite because it's being made by the people who use the damn product. In this case we're not talking about a small group of developers who might decide they equally don't like something and exclude it. We're talking about thousands of developers with different concerns. I've never seen something "critical" missing from open source software. I have seen open source missing a feature that was critical to specific businesses, but that is a different story, and has little to do with the overall quality.
"In a free society money is the means by which scarce resources are allocated to the highest needs."
Your quote here, let me fix it.
"In a fiat currency capitalist society money is the chains that binds the most scarce resources to those more likely to abuse it"
Trust me, we're better off with open source.
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I know what I'm doing this upcoming Sunday
I'll tel you what doesn't make sense
Vindictiveness in general doesn't make any sense. But it sure makes you feel better.
They both suck
Is it just me? Or is it weird that both Open Source companies both have logos that look like old fashioned locks? Seems like a poor logo.
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"You are the 1%, and you deserve so much"
should be...
"You are the 1%, and think you deserve so much"
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"Besides, half a million is hardly successful, my grandma shits out that much during her /ANAL SEEPAGE/ attacks"
Here goes another idiot thinking he can dictate the norm. Only a person with their head in the clouds would think making a half a million isn't successful just because someone else has made more. You greedy empirical fucks won't give up until every other man is just a slave under your boot.
Get this through your head, the world owes you nothing. It is just as willing to put a bullet through your head walking home one evening as it is willing to give you a break. You should feel privileged to have done so well. Go ahead and call others liars and thieves. Is your family wealthy? If so, which of the three ways did they do it that are common to so many other wealthy American's. Was it prostitution? Smuggling? Or slavery?
The world is changing, and you're playing for the wrong side. You are the 1%, and you deserve so much. But people are massing, protesting, fighting. Who do you think is going to save you when you're outnumbered 99 to 1? The police? Don't make me laugh (it hurts my belly). No one else on here is willing to say this, because they're mostly reasonable people, but you're a piece of shit. And I expect you'll get what's coming to you a lot sooner than you think.
Down with corporations. Long live the people!
Re: Of course it does!
"Batman will surely make a ton of money in theatrical but not all movies (TV shows, books, etc) are Batman."
This is one of the things I hate about movies. Do you think Batman just sells because Batman is popular? There have been other Batman movies and shows, this one sells because they're good. Not just because it's Batman. Maybe if making a movie like The Dark Knight Rises is what's needed to make money, creators would take the time to make better movies.
I for one am getting sick of Hollywood making shitty movies just because it will meet the bottom line. More movies like Dark Knight and Avengers please.
Re: Re:
I would take from that statement this is something Linux and Mac users won't have to deal with.
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From reading the article, the ad comes in as a third caller. Skype already has the ability to do three way calling. So some computer dials into your convo, and that computer would basically record that it connected correctly.
And you still have piracy
I really can't say this enough. There is nothing in this bill that will stop piracy.
I hear a bunch of crap about blocking DNS domains to take down "rogue" sites. Loading a site without the use of DNS requests can be done, not to mention many services (like bit torrent) don't use DNS at all.
Connections can be encrypted, proxy servers can be use to redirect your connection, and internet routes can always be rerouted. And even though it can seem complex, I know 10 year olds that can accomplish these things.
When small businesses can't work because licensing fees are too high, and big industry's still won't budge on their ridiculous prices, piracy will thrive.
Your gums are the only thing flapping
You have once again demonstrated that someone can formulate an opinion without a single iota of knowledge related to the subject your are directing your opinion at.
If you can find one example of Ron Paul simply changing his policy to meet public opinion, show me. He's the only politician I have seen that HASN'T changed his opinion based on public opinion (including his stance on the war, economics, Taxes, and laws against the constitution).
He's always stuck to his guns, and many of his stances/opinions are not popular due to most people being brainwashed by the media to think his suggested solutions would be bad for the public. Until years later when he's proved to have been right all along. And STILL people won't listen to him.
I don't know why I'm even posting this, since you're probably one of those people who formulates an opinion, and never changes their mind even when the evidence is right in front of your face.
But seriously, watch some documentaries he's been in (I don't remember the name, but the one about the Federal Reserve). Ron Paul points out things that have been wrong for years, which no one else will take the time to point out.
Already taken
I've heard this word somewhere before, repeatedly, usually in groups of fours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRACH5tOnq4
Doesn't bother me
All this is going to do is make people aware of encryption software to stop their ISP from seeing what they are doing. Then the music industry will have to think up a way to make such software illegal. It's a never ending vicious cycle.
RIAA, MPAA, give it up. You're outnumbered, and we've got you surrounded. Come out peacefully with your hands up, and slowly put down your music licences in the public domain.
You'll see...
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither." ~ Ben Franklin
Re: Re: Another BS story loaded with misinformation.
He is right you know. Simply declaring something without trying to back it up tells us one of two things. 1.) You simply want people to believe the store is BS 2.) You are twelve and he started it Maybe you're even lying to yourself. If the story is BS as you say then you should be able to show this is true. If you have no evidence then we would ask you to take a leap of faith and consider that maybe, possibly, a chance that... you may be wrong, and this story isn't BS. But I believe I have as much faith in you as you have faith in this story. Whenever you will, I will be ready for your one sentence name calling reply.
Re: Re: Re:
Why are you getting so upset? You don't seem to realize these people agree with you. Taking something that someone worked hard to make, especially when they create it to make a living, is wrong. No one is trying to rationalize illegal behaviour. But you ignore the help these people try to provide.
It is illegal to kill someone. No one disagrees with this, not that it's illegal or that it's wrong. Someone who has murdered someone else will go to jail for a long time. Has this stopped homicide? Nope. In big cities it is more rampant then ever. So many people have taken to a model that reduces the risk.
1) Walk in groups with your friends (don't walk alone)
2) Don't walk around after dark
3) Make sure someone knows where you are, and call when you reach your destination safely
3) Stay in your vehicle (if driving) until you reach your destination safely.
Techdirt has been dedicated to finding new business models that propel the music industry forward. Instead of attempting their methods, you're simply yelling "I have every right to walk down this dark alley in the middle of the night alone. Murder is illegal and all murderers are douch bags."
You're absolutely right, but it doesn't change anything when someone finds their body the next morning.
No law or legislation will ever stop music piracy. The facts are anyone can do it, and no agency in the world can watch every person at once. The number of people who pirate music are much more than those who have never pirated a single song.
Do yourself a favour, and just think about it. And if you do decide the old model is out of date, remember that you don't have to adopt the models that Techdirt has suggested. Maybe you could come up with something much, much better... maybe.
Re: Opportunity?