They still have to pay for licensing to the sports leagues to broadcast. Just because they own the channel doesn't mean that their free to film, and broadcast every sports game. The league still requires them to pay. Its this licensing I'm referring to.
Unfortunately the prices of the channels are not 100% controlled by the cable companies. They are purchased/licensed from the broadcaster, and in order to make up the money they have to price it accordingly by the number of viewers, as well as if they can insert their own advertising in to bring costs down. Its why they have bundles in which higher price channels are bundled with lower ones, to offset costs, and try and give the customer a better deal from their end, at the same time negotiating with the broadcasters on the other end to get these channels bundles and negotiate a lower rent.
I'm not condoning the practice at all, but there are restrictions that the cable companies face from the broadcasters that are beyond their control from a licensing perspective
Since Quebec hates the rest of the country, and has been wanting to separate for a long time. I wonder if we could turn this legislation against them, and declare there separation speech as hate speech against the rest of the country?
Give a kid a toy gun in one hand, and a real one in the other, and they'll play with either of them the same way. Even if they've never played a video game, or watched a violent movie, or TV show.
Any one who has kids know that they are curious creatures, and like to push buttons, flip switches, and pull triggers.
There's really a simple solution to all this for ALL creators out there. If you don't want your creations shared and re-used then keep them to yourself. End of problem.
"Sure, we could eradicate every genetic marker for Alzheimer's through unnatural selection, but what if that same gene protects against some far WORSE disease that then runs rampant across the entire population?"
I think this would be the case if our species made this testing mandatory. If we leave it up to choice to the parents then I don't see it being an issue, as there will always be people who'll refuse to get the testing done, which will ensure natural selection breeding is still occurring in the wild.
There will always be worse diseases out there whether your genetically modified or not, I almost think its a moot argument.
I think bob's argument can also go the other way. If content creators don't like the system in its current form then don't create the content in the first place. It's no sweat off my back as a consumer if it hasn't been created.
I prefer creators that do it for the love of doing it
This is great news. Now I'll finally have an excuse to move over to an Android phone. The only thing that was stopping me was because of all the accessories I have for the IPhone. Now they are making me switch. Good for Apple!!!
I would have to agree with Stallman here. It's to easy to take someones writings on there own opinions, and beliefs, and strew it out of context. I mean how many times have people being reported on, have to go back to the news, and explain themselves when a reporter had twisted what they had said in the interview to mean something that they didn't intend to mean, all do to being cut out or re-edited or something.
I wouldn't want to be defending myself every time someone made a new work based on my opinions, and beliefs, that were taken out of context. You could easily fall down the rabbit hole, chasing that white rabbit all your life
I agree with you Mike, that it is legal right now, but maybe it's time for it to be changed. I mean if your a corporate entity whose business is to essentially build a social hang out where anyone can join and talk to each other, then maybe First amendment rights should be applied.
Facebook is nothing more then a on online virtual courtyard for people to gather and communicate, maybe it should be turned over to the public and regulated as any other public entity. LOL.
Apple is simply trying to play catch up at this point. A lot of the electronic download sites (Juno, MixedUpMusic, etc) you can already listen to the full track let alone 90 second previews. They do this by either overlaying an audio vocal over the song at specific intervals, or only stream 30-60 sec of the song at a time, and if you want to here more of it, or specific section, you have to click on the slider.
"it makes it that much harder for Hollywood to keep charging the kinds of fees it charges."
I think thats the key point here. With the state of the world economically getting worse, and the distance widening between the rich versus the poor, "piracy" as they call it is only going spread.
I'm surprised that no one has looked at the wallets of the consumer much. (At least I haven't seen anything in the posts when I've looked, it usualy revolves around morality on the one end, and changing business models on the other) With over 5 billion people on the planet that make 10 dollars a day and less(http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats), is it any wonder why people are gravitating towards lower cost/free alternatives in the media they consume?
The black market, counterfeiting, and filesharing, is nothing more then a demographic that is not being served, and nothing more. If your making 10 dollars a day, would you buy a dvd for 3 days wages, to watch one movie over and over again, or would you spend that on a internet connection and be able to watch/download a variety of content?
Lets face it, a lot of us dont make a million dollars a year and live in penthouses, as Hollywood serves up in its movies, or the Pop stars continually spew in their lyrics!
I like the idea that was presented, but I have to agree with the various posters, that implementing this idea has it's own unique challenges. Mainly the challenge of inventors fighting over who should get tax revenue from said idea.
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The NHL and rogers media deal was 5.2 billion dollars. How do you think Rogers is going to try to recoup those costs over the 12 year deal?
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They still have to pay for licensing to the sports leagues to broadcast. Just because they own the channel doesn't mean that their free to film, and broadcast every sports game. The league still requires them to pay. Its this licensing I'm referring to.
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Unfortunately the prices of the channels are not 100% controlled by the cable companies. They are purchased/licensed from the broadcaster, and in order to make up the money they have to price it accordingly by the number of viewers, as well as if they can insert their own advertising in to bring costs down. Its why they have bundles in which higher price channels are bundled with lower ones, to offset costs, and try and give the customer a better deal from their end, at the same time negotiating with the broadcasters on the other end to get these channels bundles and negotiate a lower rent.
I'm not condoning the practice at all, but there are restrictions that the cable companies face from the broadcasters that are beyond their control from a licensing perspective
Since Quebec hates the rest of the country, and has been wanting to separate for a long time. I wonder if we could turn this legislation against them, and declare there separation speech as hate speech against the rest of the country?
"mob behavior on the Internet"
It's a good thing for him that we don't throw stones like we used to! LOL
Give a kid a toy gun in one hand, and a real one in the other, and they'll play with either of them the same way. Even if they've never played a video game, or watched a violent movie, or TV show.
Any one who has kids know that they are curious creatures, and like to push buttons, flip switches, and pull triggers.
There's really a simple solution to all this for ALL creators out there. If you don't want your creations shared and re-used then keep them to yourself. End of problem.
Re: Re: Not yet slippery
"Sure, we could eradicate every genetic marker for Alzheimer's through unnatural selection, but what if that same gene protects against some far WORSE disease that then runs rampant across the entire population?"
I think this would be the case if our species made this testing mandatory. If we leave it up to choice to the parents then I don't see it being an issue, as there will always be people who'll refuse to get the testing done, which will ensure natural selection breeding is still occurring in the wild.
There will always be worse diseases out there whether your genetically modified or not, I almost think its a moot argument.
I think bob's argument can also go the other way. If content creators don't like the system in its current form then don't create the content in the first place. It's no sweat off my back as a consumer if it hasn't been created.
I prefer creators that do it for the love of doing it
This is great news. Now I'll finally have an excuse to move over to an Android phone. The only thing that was stopping me was because of all the accessories I have for the IPhone. Now they are making me switch. Good for Apple!!!
I would have to agree with Stallman here. It's to easy to take someones writings on there own opinions, and beliefs, and strew it out of context. I mean how many times have people being reported on, have to go back to the news, and explain themselves when a reporter had twisted what they had said in the interview to mean something that they didn't intend to mean, all do to being cut out or re-edited or something.
I wouldn't want to be defending myself every time someone made a new work based on my opinions, and beliefs, that were taken out of context. You could easily fall down the rabbit hole, chasing that white rabbit all your life
?They?re priced too high for consumers,? White said. ?We didn?t choose that price, but that?s where the studios forced us to be.?
At least they admitted the actual cause of the problem, unlike netflix.
Next show after it should be "Lawyers Gone Wild".
Re: Re: What does it matter? Its gone anyway.
I agree with you Mike, that it is legal right now, but maybe it's time for it to be changed. I mean if your a corporate entity whose business is to essentially build a social hang out where anyone can join and talk to each other, then maybe First amendment rights should be applied.
Facebook is nothing more then a on online virtual courtyard for people to gather and communicate, maybe it should be turned over to the public and regulated as any other public entity. LOL.
Apple is simply trying to play catch up at this point. A lot of the electronic download sites (Juno, MixedUpMusic, etc) you can already listen to the full track let alone 90 second previews. They do this by either overlaying an audio vocal over the song at specific intervals, or only stream 30-60 sec of the song at a time, and if you want to here more of it, or specific section, you have to click on the slider.
Re: Sounds like a great idea... for elite music fans and musicians who want to be pimped out to the highest bidder
If you "know it cant work" then it will not work.
It reminds me of a saying:
Whether you say "I can" or "I can't", either way your are right.
Being successful in whatever you do starts with telling yourself, you can do this, and it will work!!!
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Last I checked the U.S Constitution started off with a socialist statement. "We The People..."
With all the crap thats going on in the states, I'd rather be a socialist then a capitalist right now.
"it makes it that much harder for Hollywood to keep charging the kinds of fees it charges."
I think thats the key point here. With the state of the world economically getting worse, and the distance widening between the rich versus the poor, "piracy" as they call it is only going spread.
I'm surprised that no one has looked at the wallets of the consumer much. (At least I haven't seen anything in the posts when I've looked, it usualy revolves around morality on the one end, and changing business models on the other) With over 5 billion people on the planet that make 10 dollars a day and less(http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats), is it any wonder why people are gravitating towards lower cost/free alternatives in the media they consume?
The black market, counterfeiting, and filesharing, is nothing more then a demographic that is not being served, and nothing more. If your making 10 dollars a day, would you buy a dvd for 3 days wages, to watch one movie over and over again, or would you spend that on a internet connection and be able to watch/download a variety of content?
Lets face it, a lot of us dont make a million dollars a year and live in penthouses, as Hollywood serves up in its movies, or the Pop stars continually spew in their lyrics!
I like the idea that was presented, but I have to agree with the various posters, that implementing this idea has it's own unique challenges. Mainly the challenge of inventors fighting over who should get tax revenue from said idea.
Re: Huh!
it's no different than stealing a car because you think BMW is charging too much.
BMW's are getting stolen cause they charge to much. What exactly is your argument.