"If the seeds are not safe for generic breeders, then they are not safe period."
LOL, exactly.
What do you expect from a consortium that includes the company who went after that sweet old farmer? Like I said, playuhs gonna play - http://iptrolltracker2.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/play-uhs-gonna-play/. (Yes, that's a self-serving blog post link, but it's totally relevant. Promise.)
Maybe this is just Google's way of seeing who else will follow them and enact "defense-only" patent strategies? Start small and see who else blinks?
Of course, if everyone followed that then no one would sue the trolls would be forced back under the bridge where they belong. We all know that won't happen until it's fiscally debilitating for the trolls, by which I mean companies adopt an "always fight back" strategy or a collaborative defense strategy, used when the trolls sue multiple people at a time (even though they now have to do it on separate dockets, thank you AIA).
Wait...did I spell "debilitating" right?
Anyway, I don't think they'll open up the treaty beyond those patents and here's why:
They need their stable locked and loaded to compete in the current patent climate, which is just dad. Even taking out the trolls won't help that, this is a Big Dawg to Big Dawg fight.
Google's blinking on the stuff that doesn't matter...and they're getting the press they wanted for it.
Now, if only someone could get the proof of this. There's already been a crowdfunded effort to expose their shell companies. That's where the skeletons are hiding...
These guys are a nightmare. Allow me to translate:
"IV has efficiently and effectively identified strong patents covering significant and relevant inventions, purchased those patents, and marketed and licensed them to companies who need them."
Becomes:
"IV has efficiently and effectively taken worthless patents covering completely nebulous ideas, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, and used them to shake down people who are actually making products."
The problem with Work for Hire is this: you may be prohibited from taking specific lesson plans (in this case) outlined a specific way and using them in another district and/or publishing them online. But once you've learned the process of lesson plan making, you can't exactly UN-learn that. So what's a teacher to do? Never write another lesson plan for another district ever? How can teachers move around and change jobs under that scenario?
Ditto programming. Yeah, you can't take code and use it somewhere else line by line. But once you figure out how to overcome a specific coding hurdle, you may well face that same hurdle at another employer. You're supposed to...what? Pretend you never solved it for the first guy? Not possible, so you reuse what you've learned, if not specific lines of code. There's not a programmer out there who doesn't do this.
"I can't take Marx up on his offer to critique his music because, frankly, I've never heard it. Nor have I heard of him prior to this piece coming out."
I feel so sad that you missed out on the teen angst that is Richard Marx. How horrible your upbringing must have been! That, or you're younger than I thought.
>>how many times has it been said that the only ones who get rich in patent and copyright cases are the lawyers? cant get more true than with this guy, i guess.
(untitled comment)
" but also how the trolls keep on fighting and demanding money, even after they have lost the case:"
This is what Neiman Marcus is facing with IP Nav. A judge eviscerated them in 2011, yet here they are suing the same company again. It's ridiculous.
Yeah you right
"If the seeds are not safe for generic breeders, then they are not safe period."
LOL, exactly.
What do you expect from a consortium that includes the company who went after that sweet old farmer? Like I said, playuhs gonna play - http://iptrolltracker2.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/play-uhs-gonna-play/. (Yes, that's a self-serving blog post link, but it's totally relevant. Promise.)
Just sayin',
IPTT
Vocabulary #Fail
He used the word "outstanding" twice.
Good God in heaven, the typos!
1. ...*and* the trolls would be...
2. ...which is just *sad*
Still don't know about debilitating, I have a case of debilitating laziness or I'd look it up. ;)
Just sayin',
IPTT
It's a trap!
Maybe this is just Google's way of seeing who else will follow them and enact "defense-only" patent strategies? Start small and see who else blinks?
Of course, if everyone followed that then no one would sue the trolls would be forced back under the bridge where they belong. We all know that won't happen until it's fiscally debilitating for the trolls, by which I mean companies adopt an "always fight back" strategy or a collaborative defense strategy, used when the trolls sue multiple people at a time (even though they now have to do it on separate dockets, thank you AIA).
Wait...did I spell "debilitating" right?
Anyway, I don't think they'll open up the treaty beyond those patents and here's why:
http://iptrolltracker2.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/nortel-buyers-are-you-angry-yet/
They need their stable locked and loaded to compete in the current patent climate, which is just dad. Even taking out the trolls won't help that, this is a Big Dawg to Big Dawg fight.
Google's blinking on the stuff that doesn't matter...and they're getting the press they wanted for it.
Just sayin',
IPTT
Re: Is it any wonder?
Ding ding ding! We have a winner, folks.
Now, if only someone could get the proof of this. There's already been a crowdfunded effort to expose their shell companies. That's where the skeletons are hiding...
I see Paris, I see France, I see IV's Underpants
...to quote myself:
http://iptrolltracker2.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/psssst-intellectual-ventures-your-shell-c ompanies-are-showing/
These guys are a nightmare. Allow me to translate:
"IV has efficiently and effectively identified strong patents covering significant and relevant inventions, purchased those patents, and marketed and licensed them to companies who need them."
Becomes:
"IV has efficiently and effectively taken worthless patents covering completely nebulous ideas, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, and used them to shake down people who are actually making products."
Just sayin',
IPTT
Misread Fail
I totally read that "Urinary Patents" and went no further. If we're patenting pee now, it's time for me to get off the train.
Just sayin',
IPTT
How do you unlearn what you've learned? (as Steph)
The problem with Work for Hire is this: you may be prohibited from taking specific lesson plans (in this case) outlined a specific way and using them in another district and/or publishing them online. But once you've learned the process of lesson plan making, you can't exactly UN-learn that. So what's a teacher to do? Never write another lesson plan for another district ever? How can teachers move around and change jobs under that scenario?
Ditto programming. Yeah, you can't take code and use it somewhere else line by line. But once you figure out how to overcome a specific coding hurdle, you may well face that same hurdle at another employer. You're supposed to...what? Pretend you never solved it for the first guy? Not possible, so you reuse what you've learned, if not specific lines of code. There's not a programmer out there who doesn't do this.
-As for owning the copyright to students' work, my now 10-yr old figured that out a year ago: http://iptrolltracker2.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/comic-con-no-crazy-costumes-required/
Just sayin'
(untitled comment) (as Steph)
What this says about Ericsson: We can no longer compete, so we will litigate by proxy.
What this says about Unwired Planet: You're a troll.
What this says about the state of the patent world: It's (still) broken.
Cheers,
IPTT
Re: Re: How old *are* you? (as Steph)
31?
That was 11 years ago for me.
Thanks. Now I feel *really* old!!
But Richard Marx is still the bomb. I have to say that for two reasons: 1) to stay on-topic and 2) so I don't make his shit list.
How old *are* you? (as Steph)
"I can't take Marx up on his offer to critique his music because, frankly, I've never heard it. Nor have I heard of him prior to this piece coming out."
I feel so sad that you missed out on the teen angst that is Richard Marx. How horrible your upbringing must have been! That, or you're younger than I thought.
OMG. That's it, isn't it?
{hangs 42-yr-old head in shame}
Way to go! (as Steph)
[quote] and this virtual backup of the web doesn't even touch sites that have a login or a robot.txt file that blocks the Wayback Machine.[/quote]
Nice. Now people who didn't know you could do that will start.
Don't give it away, people!
Re: Re: (as Steph)
Right. And how well did protesting work out for the Occupy people? You get 'em back by going around them. Innovation, for the win.
(untitled comment) (as Steph)
"The acknowledgment must come from the horse's mouth,..."
Or from the horse's ass's mouth.
How many times? (as Steph)
>>how many times has it been said that the only ones who get rich in patent and copyright cases are the lawyers? cant get more true than with this guy, i guess.
At least for or five, by yours truly.
Lawyers *always* win, even if they lose.
"Page"? (as Steph)
This is the internet. We don't paginate, we scroll.