OK..
EXPLAIN PIRATING...
Where is the money they are SUPPOSED TO BE EARNING, coming from?
Small adverts?
SHOW that they are earning money from the adverts Equal to ANYTHING The MPAA and others are trying to charge.
These lawyers are only working for the MONEY they get from the law suits.
The MUSIC industry is STUPID..
OTHERS saw what the internet was doing and They USED IT..
Every time you turn around..itunes and Hulu and others are FIGHTING (as much is possible) with contracts that the Corps keep changing, to restrict the ONLINE CONTENT..
EVEN youtube, is about to get PISSY and quit.(did you know they have free movies?(front page top= movies, right side 1/2 way down)
BUT, do you consider ALL the cable/sat channels you are FORCED to pay for? REALLY. ESPN is the most expensive. And you cant TAKE IT OFF.(not in this area, anyway)
200 channels, and you only watch 20(about)..
Iv shown people..Take off allt he channels you dont WANT/Watch.
For myself..
no-religious, sports, news, hbo, showtime, special channels..no- mexican, no music..
I would rather pay $1 per channel for 20 channels, then $50 for 180 channels I DONT WATCH. AND with ESPN, if you consider that 40% of the people DONT WANT sports..they still PAY $5 every month for ESPN they dont watch.
1. do you REALLY think they make/create their own sites??
2. if they have those that DO make the sites, do you THINK they are pro or NUBE?? which is cheaper?
3. Are you SURE they dont WANT their sites hacked? If they are, then they can MAKE A POINT..
4. do you REALLY think they know ANYTHING in the first place? How about the process of getting oil out of the ground and into your car and ALL the money WE pay in tax for OIL exploration..
WHO thinks that these idiots have their OWN servers and sites?? (NOT I)
And then they connect there other computers TO IT??(really stupid)
I have a friend that has Tone loss..To many machines.
And the persons he has gone to for a hearing aid, tend to think LOUD, BEATS tone loss..
He needs an Aid to shift sound UP 1-2 Octaves, and he can hear pretty well..
Then comes the COST. Avg suggested cost is $1000+ for anything decent.
But the TECH is out there, and I cant see WHY its not abit cheaper.
Is it time to CUT the budget??
as our law maker MUST be making BANK, with all the Moo-la being paid to them..
What is it NOW?? 4-6?? and MORE on the way..
The problem has 2 things WRONG..
1. they are going to KEEP DOING IT, until they get it PAST..Until the gov makes it a LAW or part of constitution Against it happening.
2. while you DEBATE 1, another is sneaking up..and being done BEHIND YOU..
setup a site to give BASIC knowledge and MAYBE a few programs to protect BASIC USERS from CRAP/SCAMS/VIRUS/BOTS???
If you think about it, BOTS tend to cause MORE problems and ARE MADE in the USA..By Advert venders/creators.
Or CREATE tons of LAG and restrictions to get to OUTSIDE USA sites..
If someone is looking to insert a virus or HACK something..it ISNT personal computers they are looking for. There isnt much There.
The only thing you WANT from personal computers, is BANK accounts numbers and passwords, and a GOOD BOT can find that. And those are generally sent by ADVERTS, created(probably/mostly) in the USA by Corps..
Anyone know the definition of virus and bots??
Virus= Causes REAL problems and can kill your data/system..
Bots= scanners/scammers/Keyboard trackers/Internet trackers.. They can just Watch where you go and see the OTHER adverts they have to watching you on your USB CAMERA..
Generally they dont do much, except pass your info around and SLOW DOWN your connections.(record 1 system Virus cleanup 57)
Bots want you to USE YOUR SYSTEM so they can track/watch you. Install MORE adverts and such.(record 1 system cleanup..over 300 bots)
MAny people that are sue/processed..
tend to NOT know their rights, or have much money to Fight back..
Lets deal with this problem...
IF the company that is SUING, LOOSES...THEY OWE the same amount to the person/company BEING SUE'D..
I could really, SEE, the RIAA/MPAA lowering the amounts, majorly. because if they LOOSE...they LOOSE the amounts Sue'd for..
======================
Also,
Dont you think that Twilight would be making more money, IF' they wernt paying the LAWYERS?? or are they doing this OUT OF HAND, where they foot the costs and if they WIN, they keep the money..(Twilight gets nothing)
wouldnt that be Against the law?
For an ISP to monitor every single thing we do.
Why arent the corps and gov. as transparent as they WISH the citizens to be?
If we had 1/2 the PRIVACY of the corps, we wouldnt worry about this for 10+ years..
I KNOW, lets all BECOME 1 large corp. then all correspondence is PRIVATE..
Then lets grab onto another corp as a front end, and everything goes threw THEM, so we can remain hidden.
We are then protected by the Gov, and corp law..we can become a LLC...and they can only arrest the NAME..NOT the corp itself.. We change our name, and any Ruling against us is GONE. it makes NO individual responsible..
I love printed media, as well as the internet.
The main problem comes with Mis-interpretation and corrections.
Finding them on another page/date is extraneous. And when the original article is taken as Proof, we forget the corrections.
This is like a medical journal, with a small mistake thats printed AFTER the fact. Even on the NET, making a correction to a publication AFTER, does not HELP those that read the information BEFORE the correction.
At least with playing GAMES we understand that Changes happen, and IF' you are a beta tester, that changes happen MORE.
USA makes more food then it could ever eat, every year..Over 80% is shipped out...
Do you think they take out the peanut oil from the shipments?
Do they add fillers to any of the food?
Do those Poor countries, pa as much as we do for the SAME food?
Why do we get products that BREAK?
Simple answer..Profit..Its cheaper to make, as they Auction for the Best prices..
And computers make it Easy.
Laptop batteries went to court.
The corps were programming them to Quit, after a certain time. Just like your PRINTER Cartridges.
Why is this happening? EASY..we dont STOP them.
Do you have a choice? Not really.
Corps say you have CHOICE. Go ahead, tell them what you want. and watch them either say:
NO
Restricted
Or Charge you thru the nose for it.
Copyrights should fail/fall to everyone..
Do you really think that a Side load washer should cost $1000...For that price, you could get a commercial one, with a GREAT warranty. But it used to be, that when they shipped them to the USA, they sent PARTS with them for repairs. Not now. they have to be ordered, at SPECIAL prices.. It used to be easy/cheap to fix our appliances..Not now.
POWER WAS TAKEN away from government control..
It was released to be PRIVATELY run, by a CORP...FOR PROFIT..
ITS A CORP...
IF they SCREW UP, its THEIR FAULT.
LEt the gov, FINE them..
1. NOT supplying proper energy protections..
2. NOT upgrading facilities to maintain Proper POWEr structure
3. FOR being an F@#%#ing IDIOT..
In any Work place..
When you wish to do LESS..after you end 1 job, you TRY to look busy. Keep bouncing around, make it look as if you are doing something.
THEN when the BOSS, has a FAILURE...what happens..
IT GETS BURIED.. he gets everyone to work around the mess, until you cant see what happened...as well as MAYBE, destroying the evidence or it gets FIXED along the way.
So, what do the law makers DO, after everything else is DONE..they cant go home. It would look like they were OVER PAID and doing nothing.
LOGIC isnt at the top any more. And something is happening, that is Probably, being hidden. This is the 5-6th time they are passing something SIMILAR?
I will point out something about the USA..WE ALREADY HAVE A RESTRICTED MARKET PLACE..and its not by the government..
They finally LIMITED the use of RECORDABLE Material for movies(the VCR is gone). go look at what they are TRYING to give you to record programs.
1. you need a tuner for sat or cable that will select a channel YOU AINT watching.
2. record to hard drive(NOT ENCRYPTED)
3. COPY to DVD for a collection(that you can play on ANY machine).
4. IN GOOD quality formats.
5. be able to play OTHER FORMATS, DVI, AVI,DIVX, ...
They wont release such a product in the USA..UNLESS(you wont get all these options) you pay GOOD MONEY..
This is the CORPS, ruling this nation. THEY ARE FIGHTING US thru our OWN government.
that aims at those 12-27, is missing the sale of products to 2/3 of the market.
I know many people that WOULD BUY, certain products/movies/music IF' it was available.
Insted of making REMAKES of REMAKES, let us buy our favorites, with the actors we WANTED..
Spending TIME in the $5-10 bin, from 10 minutes to hours..isnt what we desire.
There are hundreds of releases each year, from the major and minor studios, as well as OLD/wierd stuff, then there is the STUFF that will never get to a market NEAR YOU.. Stuff you can only find on the net.
They have a great chance to re-configure and design their WHOLE system, but they wont take it. They GOT their PIE long ago, and dont remember from the PAST.. WHY FIGHT IT, JOIN IT, and MAKE IT.. THEN control it.
90% of what we do with computers doesnt NEED Major POWER USE.
Wondering the net, writing Email, downloading, watching video's, RSS feeds, and so on, and on and on...
This CAN and will hurt Intel. Once people understand that with a "FEW" of these, you can do most anything in your house.
There are 2 models, and the $35 dollar one is perfect.
Stats..
They sold about 700 per second.
They are back ordered for the next 2 months..at least.
Watch for sales of SDHC high end cards, you will need one.
Video output and HD output.
YES, you can add, external DRIVES/CD/DVD and soforth.
SWAP the OS, from 1 format to another, or the WHOLE configuration, in seconds.
Anyone want to wait to replace a DVD player?? recorder??
oNLINE MUSIC PLAYER? a CLOUD BASED COMPUTER?
It PROBABLY wont play all the new games, but how many OLDER people want to play games? I know Many that just want access to Facebook/email/.. and family. NOW we need a $10 service for BASIC/BASIC internet.
Want to restrict your kids on games they play..HERE IT IS.. TONS of older games should play on this. Many were designed under Linux. Then teach your kids to MOD those games. its only C++.
For $140 (4-$35 units) you can network your WHOLE HOUSE..with abit more hardware/software...it can do most anything you need/want. Dont need no $400+ MS windows machine. I'll wait to see if they can be Daisy chained..Then get $400 worth and see if they can MARCH ON TOP of windows.
Take red box...
Instead of RENTING those DVDS...
SELL them at $5 each...NO RETURN.
Do the same with MUSIC...BURN IT AND GIVE IT, $5.
But also add....
That install them in compressed mode, On larger format HD or Blue ray..in the 100000's...on each machine.
NOT the current/wild/less then EVERYTHING format.
Then ask the customer WHAT form they want..
DVD, MP4, FLV, AAC, MP3, OOG,....
and what device..iphone, DVD, computer, Android...
It takes the data, transcribes it to the format and device...BURNS it, and GIVES it to the person for $5.
Monopoly:
1 company has control over 1 product...
NOT 2-3-4...1 company has ALL rights and ability to restrict any part of a product.
Piracy:
The ability to sell the SAME product as a monopoly, Cheaper then the company...
Sharing:
Giving a copy of something or the same, to a friend/other..
Its always fun when you find out that you can make a Copy of your data/music/game cheaper then the CORPS can sell it. there is a draw back in that you arent using the HIGH END CD/DVD..its also fun to find your PAID for original is ALL SCRATCHED UP..
Long ago, it was SAID..
That you had the RIGHT to buy your OWN cable/sat box..
I looked up those boxes about 10 years ago)cant find them now) and THEY were VERY expensive.
There is a strangle hold on these boxes. If we could get ahold of the TUNERS alone, we could do so much with them..but THEY dont want that.
IF' the artist was paid, the odds are, ITS a derivative ART..Every Fairy tale MADE
ITS NOT THE BOOK.
Its the "Last Supper" and Christ Pukes in the middle of it.
Its Promises of a movie SERIES that stops at the first chapter.. Night BREAD
Its a FLOP of creation, the book SHOULD of taken 2-3 movies to make, and they CRAM it into 1.5 hours...ERAGON
And 99% of the time, the ARTIST has nothing to DO with the movie....80% of the time the ARTIST disclaims the WHOLE movie..The Artist gets PART of the revenue which ends up as SQUAT or the price of buying 1 of his books..
Think about it tho..
200-300 LAWYERS get into a room to decide what should be in ACTA..
It TAKES YEARS, to figure it all out.
Then you put it to the company and they agree..
WHAT a way to get paid to SIT on your but, and get paid.
You said it, I said it..my question again..
OK..
EXPLAIN PIRATING...
Where is the money they are SUPPOSED TO BE EARNING, coming from?
Small adverts?
SHOW that they are earning money from the adverts Equal to ANYTHING The MPAA and others are trying to charge.
These lawyers are only working for the MONEY they get from the law suits.
The MUSIC industry is STUPID..
OTHERS saw what the internet was doing and They USED IT..
Every time you turn around..itunes and Hulu and others are FIGHTING (as much is possible) with contracts that the Corps keep changing, to restrict the ONLINE CONTENT..
EVEN youtube, is about to get PISSY and quit.(did you know they have free movies?(front page top= movies, right side 1/2 way down)
BUT, do you consider ALL the cable/sat channels you are FORCED to pay for? REALLY. ESPN is the most expensive. And you cant TAKE IT OFF.(not in this area, anyway)
200 channels, and you only watch 20(about)..
Iv shown people..Take off allt he channels you dont WANT/Watch.
For myself..
no-religious, sports, news, hbo, showtime, special channels..no- mexican, no music..
I would rather pay $1 per channel for 20 channels, then $50 for 180 channels I DONT WATCH. AND with ESPN, if you consider that 40% of the people DONT WANT sports..they still PAY $5 every month for ESPN they dont watch.
We have to ask a few questions first..
1. do you REALLY think they make/create their own sites??
2. if they have those that DO make the sites, do you THINK they are pro or NUBE?? which is cheaper?
3. Are you SURE they dont WANT their sites hacked? If they are, then they can MAKE A POINT..
4. do you REALLY think they know ANYTHING in the first place? How about the process of getting oil out of the ground and into your car and ALL the money WE pay in tax for OIL exploration..
WHO thinks that these idiots have their OWN servers and sites?? (NOT I)
And then they connect there other computers TO IT??(really stupid)
Problems.
I have a friend that has Tone loss..To many machines.
And the persons he has gone to for a hearing aid, tend to think LOUD, BEATS tone loss..
He needs an Aid to shift sound UP 1-2 Octaves, and he can hear pretty well..
Then comes the COST. Avg suggested cost is $1000+ for anything decent.
But the TECH is out there, and I cant see WHY its not abit cheaper.
Fear, corp Money
Is it time to CUT the budget??
as our law maker MUST be making BANK, with all the Moo-la being paid to them..
What is it NOW?? 4-6?? and MORE on the way..
The problem has 2 things WRONG..
1. they are going to KEEP DOING IT, until they get it PAST..Until the gov makes it a LAW or part of constitution Against it happening.
2. while you DEBATE 1, another is sneaking up..and being done BEHIND YOU..
WHICH would be easier..
setup a site to give BASIC knowledge and MAYBE a few programs to protect BASIC USERS from CRAP/SCAMS/VIRUS/BOTS???
If you think about it, BOTS tend to cause MORE problems and ARE MADE in the USA..By Advert venders/creators.
Or CREATE tons of LAG and restrictions to get to OUTSIDE USA sites..
If someone is looking to insert a virus or HACK something..it ISNT personal computers they are looking for. There isnt much There.
The only thing you WANT from personal computers, is BANK accounts numbers and passwords, and a GOOD BOT can find that. And those are generally sent by ADVERTS, created(probably/mostly) in the USA by Corps..
Anyone know the definition of virus and bots??
Virus= Causes REAL problems and can kill your data/system..
Bots= scanners/scammers/Keyboard trackers/Internet trackers.. They can just Watch where you go and see the OTHER adverts they have to watching you on your USB CAMERA..
Generally they dont do much, except pass your info around and SLOW DOWN your connections.(record 1 system Virus cleanup 57)
Bots want you to USE YOUR SYSTEM so they can track/watch you. Install MORE adverts and such.(record 1 system cleanup..over 300 bots)
I HAVE A SOLUTION..
MAny people that are sue/processed..
tend to NOT know their rights, or have much money to Fight back..
Lets deal with this problem...
IF the company that is SUING, LOOSES...THEY OWE the same amount to the person/company BEING SUE'D..
I could really, SEE, the RIAA/MPAA lowering the amounts, majorly. because if they LOOSE...they LOOSE the amounts Sue'd for..
======================
Also,
Dont you think that Twilight would be making more money, IF' they wernt paying the LAWYERS?? or are they doing this OUT OF HAND, where they foot the costs and if they WIN, they keep the money..(Twilight gets nothing)
wouldnt that be Against the law?
For all the privacy lost
For an ISP to monitor every single thing we do.
Why arent the corps and gov. as transparent as they WISH the citizens to be?
If we had 1/2 the PRIVACY of the corps, we wouldnt worry about this for 10+ years..
I KNOW, lets all BECOME 1 large corp. then all correspondence is PRIVATE..
Then lets grab onto another corp as a front end, and everything goes threw THEM, so we can remain hidden.
We are then protected by the Gov, and corp law..we can become a LLC...and they can only arrest the NAME..NOT the corp itself.. We change our name, and any Ruling against us is GONE. it makes NO individual responsible..
Problems, always problems
I love printed media, as well as the internet.
The main problem comes with Mis-interpretation and corrections.
Finding them on another page/date is extraneous. And when the original article is taken as Proof, we forget the corrections.
This is like a medical journal, with a small mistake thats printed AFTER the fact. Even on the NET, making a correction to a publication AFTER, does not HELP those that read the information BEFORE the correction.
At least with playing GAMES we understand that Changes happen, and IF' you are a beta tester, that changes happen MORE.
Re: Re: WARNING..
Lets add something here..
USA makes more food then it could ever eat, every year..Over 80% is shipped out...
Do you think they take out the peanut oil from the shipments?
Do they add fillers to any of the food?
Do those Poor countries, pa as much as we do for the SAME food?
Why do we get products that BREAK?
Simple answer..Profit..Its cheaper to make, as they Auction for the Best prices..
And computers make it Easy.
Laptop batteries went to court.
The corps were programming them to Quit, after a certain time. Just like your PRINTER Cartridges.
Why is this happening? EASY..we dont STOP them.
Do you have a choice? Not really.
Corps say you have CHOICE. Go ahead, tell them what you want. and watch them either say:
NO
Restricted
Or Charge you thru the nose for it.
Copyrights should fail/fall to everyone..
Do you really think that a Side load washer should cost $1000...For that price, you could get a commercial one, with a GREAT warranty. But it used to be, that when they shipped them to the USA, they sent PARTS with them for repairs. Not now. they have to be ordered, at SPECIAL prices.. It used to be easy/cheap to fix our appliances..Not now.
WARNING..
POWER WAS TAKEN away from government control..
It was released to be PRIVATELY run, by a CORP...FOR PROFIT..
ITS A CORP...
IF they SCREW UP, its THEIR FAULT.
LEt the gov, FINE them..
1. NOT supplying proper energy protections..
2. NOT upgrading facilities to maintain Proper POWEr structure
3. FOR being an F@#%#ing IDIOT..
sTANDARD oPERATING PROCEDURE(sop)
In any Work place..
When you wish to do LESS..after you end 1 job, you TRY to look busy. Keep bouncing around, make it look as if you are doing something.
THEN when the BOSS, has a FAILURE...what happens..
IT GETS BURIED.. he gets everyone to work around the mess, until you cant see what happened...as well as MAYBE, destroying the evidence or it gets FIXED along the way.
So, what do the law makers DO, after everything else is DONE..they cant go home. It would look like they were OVER PAID and doing nothing.
LOGIC isnt at the top any more. And something is happening, that is Probably, being hidden. This is the 5-6th time they are passing something SIMILAR?
I will point out something about the USA..WE ALREADY HAVE A RESTRICTED MARKET PLACE..and its not by the government..
They finally LIMITED the use of RECORDABLE Material for movies(the VCR is gone). go look at what they are TRYING to give you to record programs.
1. you need a tuner for sat or cable that will select a channel YOU AINT watching.
2. record to hard drive(NOT ENCRYPTED)
3. COPY to DVD for a collection(that you can play on ANY machine).
4. IN GOOD quality formats.
5. be able to play OTHER FORMATS, DVI, AVI,DIVX, ...
They wont release such a product in the USA..UNLESS(you wont get all these options) you pay GOOD MONEY..
This is the CORPS, ruling this nation. THEY ARE FIGHTING US thru our OWN government.
Its time to send our leaders HOME...
A market
that aims at those 12-27, is missing the sale of products to 2/3 of the market.
I know many people that WOULD BUY, certain products/movies/music IF' it was available.
Insted of making REMAKES of REMAKES, let us buy our favorites, with the actors we WANTED..
Spending TIME in the $5-10 bin, from 10 minutes to hours..isnt what we desire.
There are hundreds of releases each year, from the major and minor studios, as well as OLD/wierd stuff, then there is the STUFF that will never get to a market NEAR YOU.. Stuff you can only find on the net.
They have a great chance to re-configure and design their WHOLE system, but they wont take it. They GOT their PIE long ago, and dont remember from the PAST.. WHY FIGHT IT, JOIN IT, and MAKE IT.. THEN control it.
Anyone
ANyone want to REMOVE that $200+ computer in their car...
This is an interesting unit.
I can see MANY purposes for this device.
90% of what we do with computers doesnt NEED Major POWER USE.
Wondering the net, writing Email, downloading, watching video's, RSS feeds, and so on, and on and on...
This CAN and will hurt Intel. Once people understand that with a "FEW" of these, you can do most anything in your house.
There are 2 models, and the $35 dollar one is perfect.
Stats..
They sold about 700 per second.
They are back ordered for the next 2 months..at least.
Watch for sales of SDHC high end cards, you will need one.
Video output and HD output.
YES, you can add, external DRIVES/CD/DVD and soforth.
SWAP the OS, from 1 format to another, or the WHOLE configuration, in seconds.
Anyone want to wait to replace a DVD player?? recorder??
oNLINE MUSIC PLAYER? a CLOUD BASED COMPUTER?
It PROBABLY wont play all the new games, but how many OLDER people want to play games? I know Many that just want access to Facebook/email/.. and family. NOW we need a $10 service for BASIC/BASIC internet.
Want to restrict your kids on games they play..HERE IT IS.. TONS of older games should play on this. Many were designed under Linux. Then teach your kids to MOD those games. its only C++.
For $140 (4-$35 units) you can network your WHOLE HOUSE..with abit more hardware/software...it can do most anything you need/want. Dont need no $400+ MS windows machine. I'll wait to see if they can be Daisy chained..Then get $400 worth and see if they can MARCH ON TOP of windows.
Can I give youone to pass on..?
Take red box...
Instead of RENTING those DVDS...
SELL them at $5 each...NO RETURN.
Do the same with MUSIC...BURN IT AND GIVE IT, $5.
But also add....
That install them in compressed mode, On larger format HD or Blue ray..in the 100000's...on each machine.
NOT the current/wild/less then EVERYTHING format.
Then ask the customer WHAT form they want..
DVD, MP4, FLV, AAC, MP3, OOG,....
and what device..iphone, DVD, computer, Android...
It takes the data, transcribes it to the format and device...BURNS it, and GIVES it to the person for $5.
I wont go there..
Monopoly:
1 company has control over 1 product...
NOT 2-3-4...1 company has ALL rights and ability to restrict any part of a product.
Piracy:
The ability to sell the SAME product as a monopoly, Cheaper then the company...
Sharing:
Giving a copy of something or the same, to a friend/other..
Its always fun when you find out that you can make a Copy of your data/music/game cheaper then the CORPS can sell it. there is a draw back in that you arent using the HIGH END CD/DVD..its also fun to find your PAID for original is ALL SCRATCHED UP..
As far as I know..
Long ago, it was SAID..
That you had the RIGHT to buy your OWN cable/sat box..
I looked up those boxes about 10 years ago)cant find them now) and THEY were VERY expensive.
There is a strangle hold on these boxes. If we could get ahold of the TUNERS alone, we could do so much with them..but THEY dont want that.
Re: yOU ARE CLAI MING THE aRTIST GOT PAID.
Movie:
I Robot...
HAd nothing to do with the Book.
Had nothing to do with the Author.
ANd NOTHING to do with ANY of the Asimov Series.
yOU ARE CLAI MING THE aRTIST GOT PAID.
Who is claiming the artist got paid?
IF' the artist was paid, the odds are, ITS a derivative ART..Every Fairy tale MADE
ITS NOT THE BOOK.
Its the "Last Supper" and Christ Pukes in the middle of it.
Its Promises of a movie SERIES that stops at the first chapter.. Night BREAD
Its a FLOP of creation, the book SHOULD of taken 2-3 movies to make, and they CRAM it into 1.5 hours...ERAGON
And 99% of the time, the ARTIST has nothing to DO with the movie....80% of the time the ARTIST disclaims the WHOLE movie..The Artist gets PART of the revenue which ends up as SQUAT or the price of buying 1 of his books..
i HAVE TO HAND IT TO THEM...REALLY..
Think about it tho..
200-300 LAWYERS get into a room to decide what should be in ACTA..
It TAKES YEARS, to figure it all out.
Then you put it to the company and they agree..
WHAT a way to get paid to SIT on your but, and get paid.