--- "App" has been the abbreviation for "Application" ever since there have been computer applications. ---
Sure, I agree. And "Windows" has been the name for the little windows you look at on your computer ever since the Graphical User Interface was released (well before Windows 1). And yet, Microsoft has that trademarked and yes, has sued many many companies out of existence.
--- "Being the first to package crap-ware in one place also does not mean you get to own a standard term." ---
Actually, you switched to off topic. Focus please. It's not your opinion of the software (don't be jealous) that matters here. It's who owns the name. And yes, first one to raise their hand gets the name.
--- And yes, Catalog was wildly used around the world. And, who complained? ---
I don't think anyone knew - the failure was so complete.
--- That might stand up as an argument if you can show the many companies perhaps such as Universal, Sears, ScrewFix, RS Online, Victoria Secret etc. that Microsoft sued for use of the term catalog. ---
Yet, Microsoft was able to Trademark that common name as well.
Anyway, thank you for your comments. Good discussion keeps the world revolving.
Maybe it's just that I have a better memory than most other people... or maybe it's just because no other company had the insight to use "app store" first.
Microsoft, back when it had an online store for it's failed smart-type phone, had a little thing called "Catalog"... for it's Sidekick device. It was an online store, but choose a more techie name. And yes, Catalog was wildly used around the world. And, who complained?
Now that Apple has the "app store" name - those wishing they had it are now throwing hissy-fits. Stop being whinny snot-nosed-kids and move on. Geesh!
Let Apple have their trademark for "App Store" If it was so obvious the name would have been trademarked years ago. And, if you really don't want Apple to have their trademark... then why are you not tossing rotten eggs at Microsoft?
Bill & Co. had windows trademarked... after the term was already in wide use regarding computer displays. They even had SQL Server trademarked, again... after the term was already in use by the industry.
But yet, to those 'morons in a hurry' to cast stones at Apple for trademarking a name that others are slapping their foreheads and saying... "I could have trademarked that!".
And what about Disney getting a trademark on "Seal Team 6"? Are you kidding me? A National Hero military team (Government owned and paid for by our tax dollars - which mean 'public domain') is now taken by a corporation to capitalize on the death of an unarmed man.
So for you 'morons in a hurry'... stop and smell the truth.
Apple popularized the term App Store... why not let them have it?
But let's say that terms that were very generic are not allowed to be used as a trademark. I would be all for that. But the issue is that companies get Trademarks on already used terms... such as windows. Windows was used widely in the 'real' computing industry before Microsoft belatedly tossed their hat into the ring.
And they got what? Windows as a Trademark. Why? Because someone was really dumb and asleep at the Trademark office, and perhaps because a far-behind the curve company needed a way to make itself stand out... what better way than using a already popular term?
Then... we have SQL as an existing name. And Server as an existing name. Why not, when you find yourself behind the curve, yet again, use two (2) common and widely used names (please note that these names were also widely used together as well), to try to capitalize on generic terms?
If you can not argue with structured thoughts, please, at least argue with consistency.
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Re: Re: Apple has the "app store" --- get over it.
--- "App" has been the abbreviation for "Application" ever since there have been computer applications. ---
Sure, I agree. And "Windows" has been the name for the little windows you look at on your computer ever since the Graphical User Interface was released (well before Windows 1). And yet, Microsoft has that trademarked and yes, has sued many many companies out of existence.
--- "Being the first to package crap-ware in one place also does not mean you get to own a standard term." ---
Actually, you switched to off topic. Focus please. It's not your opinion of the software (don't be jealous) that matters here. It's who owns the name. And yes, first one to raise their hand gets the name.
--- And yes, Catalog was wildly used around the world. And, who complained? ---
I don't think anyone knew - the failure was so complete.
--- That might stand up as an argument if you can show the many companies perhaps such as Universal, Sears, ScrewFix, RS Online, Victoria Secret etc. that Microsoft sued for use of the term catalog. ---
Yet, Microsoft was able to Trademark that common name as well.
Anyway, thank you for your comments. Good discussion keeps the world revolving.
Apple has the "app store" --- get over it.
Maybe it's just that I have a better memory than most other people... or maybe it's just because no other company had the insight to use "app store" first.
Microsoft, back when it had an online store for it's failed smart-type phone, had a little thing called "Catalog"... for it's Sidekick device. It was an online store, but choose a more techie name. And yes, Catalog was wildly used around the world. And, who complained?
Now that Apple has the "app store" name - those wishing they had it are now throwing hissy-fits. Stop being whinny snot-nosed-kids and move on. Geesh!
"moron in a hurry"
To all the morons in a hurry to toss tomatoes.
Let Apple have their trademark for "App Store" If it was so obvious the name would have been trademarked years ago. And, if you really don't want Apple to have their trademark... then why are you not tossing rotten eggs at Microsoft?
Bill & Co. had windows trademarked... after the term was already in wide use regarding computer displays. They even had SQL Server trademarked, again... after the term was already in use by the industry.
But yet, to those 'morons in a hurry' to cast stones at Apple for trademarking a name that others are slapping their foreheads and saying... "I could have trademarked that!".
And what about Disney getting a trademark on "Seal Team 6"? Are you kidding me? A National Hero military team (Government owned and paid for by our tax dollars - which mean 'public domain') is now taken by a corporation to capitalize on the death of an unarmed man.
So for you 'morons in a hurry'... stop and smell the truth.
be consistant
Apple popularized the term App Store... why not let them have it?
But let's say that terms that were very generic are not allowed to be used as a trademark. I would be all for that. But the issue is that companies get Trademarks on already used terms... such as windows. Windows was used widely in the 'real' computing industry before Microsoft belatedly tossed their hat into the ring.
And they got what? Windows as a Trademark. Why? Because someone was really dumb and asleep at the Trademark office, and perhaps because a far-behind the curve company needed a way to make itself stand out... what better way than using a already popular term?
Then... we have SQL as an existing name. And Server as an existing name. Why not, when you find yourself behind the curve, yet again, use two (2) common and widely used names (please note that these names were also widely used together as well), to try to capitalize on generic terms?
If you can not argue with structured thoughts, please, at least argue with consistency.