To be fair, that is probably more an issue of caution on the part of the production crew/Discovery.
If the company that is more or less paying all the bills for the show says "don't give This rental company free advertising and don't invite the possible hint of a threat of a possible lawsuit from That company for using their branded beer to smash artificial skulls" then you get out the blur tools.
Yeah, those darn atomic power stations are always just exploding. Every day you hear about a reactor rupturing and scattering millions of tons of super-uranium across the countryside.
Or maybe that does not happen.
Maybe every generation is safer and more efficient. Maybe NIMBY attitudes should not be allowed to place reactors on sea-level beaches in tsunami zones. Maybe the anti-nuke activists should enlighten themselves every now and then.
It also looks like the people in the far upper left section are also "digitally enhanced".
The semi-overhead image seems to show the line of rented trees crossing the street somewhere between the black awnings of "Silverado"(male strip club) and the neighboring body-piercing shop (just before the exotic club, see the trace of red near the glare or light?) This pegs the blocked in crowd as an area only slightly wider than the frontage of the building at best, not stretching off into infinity down 3rd and Oak streets.
To be fair (as if they deserved fair play after being handed so much while still whining so much) CBS and all the others don't actually want solid, verifiable numbers for figuring out their ratings and Ad buys. They want fuzzy numbers extrapolated from tiny samples and massaged by magical formulas devised by companies who make their living supplying these figures and making the networks happy.
IIRC the Bell System did exactly that for many years. Claiming to have utter control over your phone and everything all the way through. The response was a pause-button on technology. Plug something else in? not allowed. Rest the phone (which we lease, never sell) on some other device to use the system in a new way? Lawsuit.
(they lost that last one in the end and eventually splintered. And people innovated, the system advanced!)
For a company of this size you can't just draw a line between "paying a fine without whining" and "guilty of something"
UPS Could spend millions or dozens of millions on lawyers and have this event in the news daily. It could have stock prognosticators going on and on, daily, about how they were in a "risky legal action due to shipping illegal drugs" and take a hit across the board. Or they could write a check, send out a fill-in-the-blank apology form and get back to their business.
so that is products and services that ended up costing an extra 7 billion dollars (in aggregate) That is money shifted away from tech labs and funneled into lawyers in excess of that amount (the costs to companies outside the mob payoffs, I mean, settlements & investments in IV)
They are the shining-turd example of a system that robs the world to fill their own coffers using the law.
The problem for me is that they can't even clearly articulate what I am actually getting.
I understand clearly when I go to a movie theater to watch a movie what exactly I am getting - I am getting access to a seat in a room with a big screen, big sound, a bunch of other people, to watch a movie exactly once. That is very clear. And when I fork over my money, I understand that clearly.
What I don't understand is why when I purchase a movie on DVD I can't watch it on any DVD player, forever.
Thank you for putting it in such a simple example. I will infringe.. I mean, use this idea in other places to explain some of these concepts.
But Hollywood is still claiming they need special laws, they need special help, they need new governmental task forces with Fuckin' Eagle emblems to save them from being forced to lay off American workers, like those FX crews (and the place where they buy morning bagels, and the place that sells them office chairs and masking tape)
They have been getting their way with laws and enforcements and having record-breaking box office turnouts year after year.. but are still quietly snuffing out the projects and sending the work overseas.
Things get too blatantly offensive when they get to have everything their own way.
Ah, but this is just private agreements between private groups of corporations privately working together in ways that you totally agree with and support (due to the "agreement" that they reserved the right to change, and changed)
report security flaw to some ATT email address.. nothing happens.
report massive breach to ATT and the media with a huge stack of big names in the files.. things might get fixed.
As for the number of addresses.. I bet it was the work of just a few minutes to knock together some software tool that incremented through the numbers and gobbled the information at speed. Let that run then go back through to search for interesting names. This is not like doing 114,000 bank robberies or kicking 114,000 kittens.
They don't seem to be protecting any code (which should be copyright instead of patent anyhow) just the Idea. So any animated flipping page function could arguably be "infringing" if you threw enough lawyers at it. Like rounded corners.. just, being rounded.
You are jumping to defend the chan against an argument no-one made, friend.
That inset paragraph is not in italics because Mike is implying implications. That paragraph is taken from the article on Wired. And if you click through to read the Wired article it is pretty clear that the writer, Mat Honan, is taking that information from talking with Cosmo or attorneys representing him in some capacity.
So everything boils down to a judge making an ass-backwards decree about some young man's connection to an "elite hacker group called anonymous" along with a very dumb deal that forces someone who might be an internet savant offline for a crazy amount of time. Things that the article called out as counterproductive and ill-considered.
So who are you yelling at? Who brought up 4chan, that den of iniquity and illegal filth(/sarc)? No one but you.
Chill out Anon.
and don't say "outtie", it makes you sound childish.
it is a matter of publicity and also to achieve the goals of getting the book in small shops.
Scraping up a couple hundred bucks and getting a books printed is great, but this way they are getting the printing, pre-selling a large amount And getting some distribution to markets that may not be well served by the large players.
Is the defendant ready to surrender the encryption codes? No?
Once again the court finds you in Contempt. 2 weeks detention in the violent&sexually aggressive wing of the county jail. We will pick this up in two weeks.
Right, that is why this case is MIT & JSTOR Vs: Aaron Swartz..
Wait, neither of those groups, the ones who were theoretically trespassed upon or abused are interested in this case. JSTOR dealt with him to their satisfaction back when this all actually happened.
This entire case, and the new eager stacking of charges, is a way to punish someone that the prosecutors don't like. They have managed to bend laws until "daring to be annoying to the government-WITH A COMPUTER" is at a higher level then rape.
I don't think that doing X is really freedom of expression(speech/fillintheblank), because I Don't Like It.
Just let anyone fill in any blank they like and we can start letting angry mobs in remote countries (and on main street USA) prune the tree of liberty into a twig of regression.
But on average the public Does approve of safe driving regulations that make sense (speed laws in most cases) and fire code, retail access and ease-of-use concerns that motivate most reasonable parking laws.
Heck, even most stubborn people will admit that as long as the government exists, and taxes and revenue also exists, there must be some kind of Revenue Service, something Internal to the government that exists to make the tax system function (in theory)
SO people do support those laws, far beyond their occasional grouching when one or more of them has some kind of effect on them personally.
Other laws, like the prohibition of alcohol, are so disrespected and disliked by people they get the laws overturned.
Still others, like the prohibition of some narcotics, are more or less ignored by vast swathes of otherwise law-abiding citizens and even ignored by some law enforcement organizations.
Re: (as teka)
To be fair, that is probably more an issue of caution on the part of the production crew/Discovery.
If the company that is more or less paying all the bills for the show says "don't give This rental company free advertising and don't invite the possible hint of a threat of a possible lawsuit from That company for using their branded beer to smash artificial skulls" then you get out the blur tools.
Re: (as teka)
Yeah, those darn atomic power stations are always just exploding. Every day you hear about a reactor rupturing and scattering millions of tons of super-uranium across the countryside.
Or maybe that does not happen.
Maybe every generation is safer and more efficient. Maybe NIMBY attitudes should not be allowed to place reactors on sea-level beaches in tsunami zones. Maybe the anti-nuke activists should enlighten themselves every now and then.
(untitled comment) (as teka)
It also looks like the people in the far upper left section are also "digitally enhanced".
The semi-overhead image seems to show the line of rented trees crossing the street somewhere between the black awnings of "Silverado"(male strip club) and the neighboring body-piercing shop (just before the exotic club, see the trace of red near the glare or light?) This pegs the blocked in crowd as an area only slightly wider than the frontage of the building at best, not stretching off into infinity down 3rd and Oak streets.
Re: What I can't understand... (as teka)
To be fair (as if they deserved fair play after being handed so much while still whining so much) CBS and all the others don't actually want solid, verifiable numbers for figuring out their ratings and Ad buys. They want fuzzy numbers extrapolated from tiny samples and massaged by magical formulas devised by companies who make their living supplying these figures and making the networks happy.
Re: Re: (as teka)
IIRC the Bell System did exactly that for many years. Claiming to have utter control over your phone and everything all the way through. The response was a pause-button on technology. Plug something else in? not allowed. Rest the phone (which we lease, never sell) on some other device to use the system in a new way? Lawsuit.
(they lost that last one in the end and eventually splintered. And people innovated, the system advanced!)
Re: (as teka)
"Merely an application" these days means that they can just keep bouncing it off the side of the Patent Office until it goes through a window.
Re: (as teka)
For a company of this size you can't just draw a line between "paying a fine without whining" and "guilty of something"
UPS Could spend millions or dozens of millions on lawyers and have this event in the news daily. It could have stock prognosticators going on and on, daily, about how they were in a "risky legal action due to shipping illegal drugs" and take a hit across the board. Or they could write a check, send out a fill-in-the-blank apology form and get back to their business.
(untitled comment) (as teka)
so that is products and services that ended up costing an extra 7 billion dollars (in aggregate) That is money shifted away from tech labs and funneled into lawyers in excess of that amount (the costs to companies outside the mob payoffs, I mean, settlements & investments in IV)
They are the shining-turd example of a system that robs the world to fill their own coffers using the law.
Re: Re: Silly premise. First, DRM works unless circumvented. (as teka)
Thank you for putting it in such a simple example. I will infringe.. I mean, use this idea in other places to explain some of these concepts.
Re: Re: Let's not forget outsourcing... (as teka)
But Hollywood is still claiming they need special laws, they need special help, they need new governmental task forces with Fuckin' Eagle emblems to save them from being forced to lay off American workers, like those FX crews (and the place where they buy morning bagels, and the place that sells them office chairs and masking tape)
They have been getting their way with laws and enforcements and having record-breaking box office turnouts year after year.. but are still quietly snuffing out the projects and sending the work overseas.
Things get too blatantly offensive when they get to have everything their own way.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Yeah, I was pretty much flipping off my computer screen for 2 minutes (as teka)
Ah, but this is just private agreements between private groups of corporations privately working together in ways that you totally agree with and support (due to the "agreement" that they reserved the right to change, and changed)
yeah, it's that bad.
Re: (as teka)
report security flaw to some ATT email address.. nothing happens.
report massive breach to ATT and the media with a huge stack of big names in the files.. things might get fixed.
As for the number of addresses.. I bet it was the work of just a few minutes to knock together some software tool that incremented through the numbers and gobbled the information at speed. Let that run then go back through to search for interesting names. This is not like doing 114,000 bank robberies or kicking 114,000 kittens.
Re: Not so sure... (as teka)
They don't seem to be protecting any code (which should be copyright instead of patent anyhow) just the Idea. So any animated flipping page function could arguably be "infringing" if you threw enough lawyers at it. Like rounded corners.. just, being rounded.
Re: (as teka)
You are jumping to defend the chan against an argument no-one made, friend.
That inset paragraph is not in italics because Mike is implying implications. That paragraph is taken from the article on Wired. And if you click through to read the Wired article it is pretty clear that the writer, Mat Honan, is taking that information from talking with Cosmo or attorneys representing him in some capacity.
So everything boils down to a judge making an ass-backwards decree about some young man's connection to an "elite hacker group called anonymous" along with a very dumb deal that forces someone who might be an internet savant offline for a crazy amount of time. Things that the article called out as counterproductive and ill-considered.
So who are you yelling at? Who brought up 4chan, that den of iniquity and illegal filth(/sarc)? No one but you.
Chill out Anon.
and don't say "outtie", it makes you sound childish.
/tg/diy/
Re: (as teka)
it is a matter of publicity and also to achieve the goals of getting the book in small shops.
Scraping up a couple hundred bucks and getting a books printed is great, but this way they are getting the printing, pre-selling a large amount And getting some distribution to markets that may not be well served by the large players.
Re: (as teka)
Re: Re: (as teka)
Right, that is why this case is MIT & JSTOR Vs: Aaron Swartz..
Wait, neither of those groups, the ones who were theoretically trespassed upon or abused are interested in this case. JSTOR dealt with him to their satisfaction back when this all actually happened.
This entire case, and the new eager stacking of charges, is a way to punish someone that the prosecutors don't like. They have managed to bend laws until "daring to be annoying to the government-WITH A COMPUTER" is at a higher level then rape.
Re: Cultures and definitions of freedom collide (as teka)
But can't that be a horribly slippery slope?
I don't think that doing X is really freedom of expression(speech/fillintheblank), because I Don't Like It.
Just let anyone fill in any blank they like and we can start letting angry mobs in remote countries (and on main street USA) prune the tree of liberty into a twig of regression.
Re: Printer Ink (as teka)
Works out well for me when I buy their "razor handle" at a low price and build my own "razorblades" for free.
Re: Re: (as teka)
But on average the public Does approve of safe driving regulations that make sense (speed laws in most cases) and fire code, retail access and ease-of-use concerns that motivate most reasonable parking laws.
Heck, even most stubborn people will admit that as long as the government exists, and taxes and revenue also exists, there must be some kind of Revenue Service, something Internal to the government that exists to make the tax system function (in theory)
SO people do support those laws, far beyond their occasional grouching when one or more of them has some kind of effect on them personally.
Other laws, like the prohibition of alcohol, are so disrespected and disliked by people they get the laws overturned.
Still others, like the prohibition of some narcotics, are more or less ignored by vast swathes of otherwise law-abiding citizens and even ignored by some law enforcement organizations.
the point stands.