Thank you, Techdirt. I have been pointing this out to friends and family for years that most 'pirates' aren't really that (they are doing legal timeshifting because they have cable/satellite TV memberships) or the pirates aren't a lost sale because they don't make enough money to afford the legitimate thing in question.
Yes, it is, because it makes it appear that the government has something to hide.
Newsflash for the 'gobmint wouldn't harm us' people out there: if the government goes to these means to take something out of public circulation, they probably do have something to hide and there might be some truth in the thing somewhere.
My Lai was called a 'conspiracy theory' until hard evidence came out that it actually happened, so don't be too willing to say that these people are nuts.
Simple, to answer the last question: We just ignore the laws.
That is all we do and if anyone tries coming after us, we hit back HARD and get the law thrown out then. It shouldn't come to that, but too often considering how freaking lazy our politicians in the world today are, it does.
True. The actions of an insane person do not prove that "The laws aren't working!" It just shows that the laws cannot prevent an insane person from killing a bunch of people if they get up and decide "Today is a good day to kill a lot of people!"
It's just impossible to stop that in the real world with more laws. With better psychological counseling and less of a 'reluctance' (albeit one rooted in history) to institutionalize someone.... that can stop these things or prevent SOME of them.
Well, part of regional blocking is that companies cannot know whether X or Y is legal in the country where they wish to sell it until going through a broad process where they ask the elected officials and legal experts whether those things are legal.
That is part of the problem today. Most things should be LEGAL unless made ILLEGAL and made illegal for a damned good reason.
People are just going to have realize, unfortunately, that underage and even overage sex slavery aren't going anywhere until society becomes much more sexually free than it is today.
Though, a lot of 'sex slavery' is women and men willingly getting involved in prostitution and the cops trying to say that they are being 'forced into it'.
Sigh.... until people stop buying the "It's for the children!" argument I don't see these kind of overbroad laws disappearing from consideration.
What we really need is to realize that we don't need more laws heaped on top of older laws, those older laws usually cover what we need to make illegal quite well.
Simply put, FanFiction fits into the same area as parody and is protected by human rights.
It's time to start bitchslapping the publishers and authors, telling them "Once you release something, other people have the right to use your characters as long as: 1. They aren't getting paid for it (or only server costs) and 2. They make it very clear that they are not the creators of the characters."
The problem with these 'incitement' laws is that they miss that many legal scholars and founders of countries over the years have said that if someone has a problem with X thing, they do have the right to protest against it even violently.
Many courts seem to forget that today (on purpose, I think).
Question I have is: How are they going to prove that it was this man who posted this? With easily spoofable internet connections and easily hacked password, basically anyone could have posted this.
Good point, however with the border searches they are on 'firm ground' because federal law says that you can be searched (even strip-searched) after crossing the border for any reason and even without a reason.
Which is insane and something the Supreme Court should take up, but they have been exceptionally reticent to do that.
They don't get a paid vacation for murder. They get a 'paid vacation' for when they have been accused of using their firearm in the line of duty and that (to a normal person) appears to be murder until the investigation is done.
Many times, when something is ruled murder by the overseers in the police, the officer is charged with murder... however, many times, the officer will be let off solely because they are an officer 'of the law'.
Re: Horses are useful
Actually, it's not our 'excess intake of carbohydrates' that is the issue. It's our sedentary and less active lifestyles that is the issue.
Way to go, Techdirt
Thank you, Techdirt. I have been pointing this out to friends and family for years that most 'pirates' aren't really that (they are doing legal timeshifting because they have cable/satellite TV memberships) or the pirates aren't a lost sale because they don't make enough money to afford the legitimate thing in question.
Re: Re: Can't have it both ways, Mike...
Agreed with the 'after the ruling' part. No reason to pull anything before a court has made a decision or jury has made a decision on X thing.
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Bingo. This is just waiting for due process to wind it's way through.
I personally feel that way too many things are patentable today. Complete software and hardware packages, fine.
Piecemeal software and hardware patents, hell no!
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Actually, by the definition, snake-handling (as part of worship of something) is a religion, period and done with.
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Yes, it is, because it makes it appear that the government has something to hide.
Newsflash for the 'gobmint wouldn't harm us' people out there: if the government goes to these means to take something out of public circulation, they probably do have something to hide and there might be some truth in the thing somewhere.
My Lai was called a 'conspiracy theory' until hard evidence came out that it actually happened, so don't be too willing to say that these people are nuts.
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Simple, to answer the last question: We just ignore the laws.
That is all we do and if anyone tries coming after us, we hit back HARD and get the law thrown out then. It shouldn't come to that, but too often considering how freaking lazy our politicians in the world today are, it does.
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True. The actions of an insane person do not prove that "The laws aren't working!" It just shows that the laws cannot prevent an insane person from killing a bunch of people if they get up and decide "Today is a good day to kill a lot of people!"
It's just impossible to stop that in the real world with more laws. With better psychological counseling and less of a 'reluctance' (albeit one rooted in history) to institutionalize someone.... that can stop these things or prevent SOME of them.
Re: Imaginary Threats
That and 'sexual predators', who are usually just some sad sap looking for pussy who is put in a situation where temptation overpowers him.
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Well, part of regional blocking is that companies cannot know whether X or Y is legal in the country where they wish to sell it until going through a broad process where they ask the elected officials and legal experts whether those things are legal.
That is part of the problem today. Most things should be LEGAL unless made ILLEGAL and made illegal for a damned good reason.
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People are just going to have realize, unfortunately, that underage and even overage sex slavery aren't going anywhere until society becomes much more sexually free than it is today.
Though, a lot of 'sex slavery' is women and men willingly getting involved in prostitution and the cops trying to say that they are being 'forced into it'.
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Sigh.... until people stop buying the "It's for the children!" argument I don't see these kind of overbroad laws disappearing from consideration.
What we really need is to realize that we don't need more laws heaped on top of older laws, those older laws usually cover what we need to make illegal quite well.
(untitled comment)
Simply put, FanFiction fits into the same area as parody and is protected by human rights.
It's time to start bitchslapping the publishers and authors, telling them "Once you release something, other people have the right to use your characters as long as: 1. They aren't getting paid for it (or only server costs) and 2. They make it very clear that they are not the creators of the characters."
Re: Once Obama is re-elected ...
I think that is more Ex-President Bush who did that.
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The problem with these 'incitement' laws is that they miss that many legal scholars and founders of countries over the years have said that if someone has a problem with X thing, they do have the right to protest against it even violently.
Many courts seem to forget that today (on purpose, I think).
Re: Norwegian law
Question I have is: How are they going to prove that it was this man who posted this? With easily spoofable internet connections and easily hacked password, basically anyone could have posted this.
IP address means nothing in this case.
Re: Re: Re: So what now?
Good point, however with the border searches they are on 'firm ground' because federal law says that you can be searched (even strip-searched) after crossing the border for any reason and even without a reason.
Which is insane and something the Supreme Court should take up, but they have been exceptionally reticent to do that.
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True..... I think Canada has the 'recall', where an elected official can be removed from office if people get enough signatures calling for it.
Re: Re: What was he doing.
They don't get a paid vacation for murder. They get a 'paid vacation' for when they have been accused of using their firearm in the line of duty and that (to a normal person) appears to be murder until the investigation is done.
Many times, when something is ruled murder by the overseers in the police, the officer is charged with murder... however, many times, the officer will be let off solely because they are an officer 'of the law'.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Read the memo? Really?
You have a good point. If we read the law.... well, this is actually narrowly, this was theft.
Therefore the cop in question should be charged with theft, just like a mugger who was caught would be.