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  • Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 12:40pm

    Re: Re: USA no different than any other Government

    Ya, It was a bad one to reply to as a first. I don't have enough facts to argue for the CIA, FBI, DHS or any of them. I'm a redneck. I don't approve of torture, but it's wrong I feel to say that if I don't know the entire situation. That does sound bad. But there are situations that I could understand 'why' it happened. 1 Nuclear bomb, in the middle of Detroit, set to go off in 2 hrs, 1 person linked to the bomb - you ask them and they tell you they know anything. What would you do? I don't know, but seems like a little force may be necessary. That may NOT have been the case, we, none of us seem to know. But, USA is being bashed for it, because Wiki leaks shows PART of the story. I SHOULD NOT HAVE COMMENTED, man...I'm not politically smart enough, and my morals are prioritized. And I feel that people who want to live are more important than people who want to take life from others. - I'm only replying now to hopefully explain myself a little clearer. It won't work, I've read enough to know it will be torn out of context.

  • Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 12:24pm

    Re: Re: USA no different than any other Government

    uhm...USA troops are not terrorists. Why are they being equated? The whole thing about all people being equal is true, I'll give you that - in the eyes of the great whoever you choose to worship. However, we're just people, trying to protect other people. I'm not trying to say it's ok to torture people at free will - but there is no doubt a necessary amount of force that MAY have been used in an effort to avoid a terrorist attack. Is this ok? You can't say 100% because you don't know, you weren't there, and neither was I. It may have been 100% wrong - but Wiki needs to stop because they DONT have the whole story. Or, they need to get the whole story I guess - leak it all!

  • Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 12:07pm

    USA no different than any other Government

    WOW. No one's perfect, and all should answer for their actions - but sometimes rules have to be broken in order to achieve peace. Rules may be the same for all people, and I know this will shock some of you, but there are some VERY BAD PEOPLE out there who want to KILL innocent people - not just a few either, hundreds or thousands just to make some sort of point. My government has done some ill things, no different than any other country. Not proud of those decisions, but I won't cower behind a mistake when so much we do is for the betterment of the world, to help establish peaceful coexistence - My country is great, if you are not violating humanitarian rights, then so is yours. If you're from USA and putting it down - LEAVE. Find a place that suits you better. It really stinks that so many people judge an entire country of people, on a governments action. Thus, war, and unnecessary loss of innocent life, and plain dumb suggestions like dissolving the CIA. Do you sleep good at night? Do you ever wonder why? Hopefully, the actions our respective countries take which bend treaty rules, are justified in the results - and done in only extreme cases in efforts to PROTECT our, and our allies, citizens. I believe in UN and think it is justified in judging government - and penalizing them for unjust actions. All you soap box posters should know - the wiki crap is half the story - what of the rest? no one cares. USA is strong, and sometimes wrong, but always there to help. Does the rest of the world really want THAT to change?