You say they didn't listen to their customers, then say dismal preorders were a factor in this decision. You realise that preorders come from customers right?
Hey, thanks for providing a detailed and complete rebuttal of the article, and providing sources to back up your claims so we can check them out and weigh up Mike's claims against yours, and make up our minds based on who provided the strongest argument. Well done!
"In any case, you can't rely on "dog ate my homework"."
Actually, in court you can rely on that when the dog is the prosecutor and the homework is material evidence.
"If Dotcom is so darned eager to prove his innocence, he can hop on a plane for the US and get it over with."
I'm not sure if this statement is made out of ignorance, malice or both...
If you were accused of a crime in another country and set to be extradited, and you considered yourself to be innocent, would you willingly jump on a plane and present yourself to the authorities knowing that you'll spend the next year or two stuck in that country and having to put your entire life on hold? Do you leave your family? (Dotcom has a wife and five kids remember.) Or do you uproot them from their lives too? Do you just quit your job? (Probably no choice there.) Is that what you'd do Blue?
No, of course it's not. Since you believe you're innocent you'd fight every effort to you drag you into that hell. Even if you assume Dotcom would get a fair trial (far from guaranteed) and can win, it's still something no sane person would volunteer for.
The extradition process is not just to ensure criminals can be returned to the country where a crime was committed, but also to ensure people who are innocent or unlikely to be found guilty are not unduly punished before a verdict is even delivered.
"Anyhoo, when more than one AG comes after you, it's just possible that you're engaged in fairly obvious fiddling."
Nice appeal to authority there. Obviously there's no reason to believe that if one AG seeks to improve their chances of career advancement by grandstanding on a stupid issue like this, that others would jump on the bandwagon for the same ulterior motives. No, AG's clearly have moral superiority when in numbers...
So you're trying to convince us that you've never done anything in your life that was completely legal but you'd still like to keep completely private? Man your life must be dull...
"What a shame that you can't be bothered to defend anything you publish. That says it all about you, unfortunately."
The fact that you feel fully entitled to an author's time and attention says a lot about you. You have an unrealistically high impression of your own worth.
"So Mike, are you saying that whistleblowers should just not even try to report whatever wrongs they perceive through proper channels first?"
Did you even read the link that was in the text you quoted? Clearly not, or you'd realise how ignorant your comment sounds. Why would you choose a path that will have the exact opposite outcome that you want?
Feel free to link to examples of Mike attacking someone while ignoring the merits of what they said. If it's so common it should be easy for you. Way you go, we'll wait...
"...trying to draw out a sophisticated debate here..."
Can you point to which parts of your contribution you consider to be "sophisticated"? Because I'm seeing a staggering lack of sophistication in all the people 'criticizing' this post and the commentors who support it.
If think the sheer volume of flagged comments proves AG Wright's point. Someone clearly wants this discussion shut down or discredited.
"I don't live my life based on the statistical probability of the method of my death!!! Do you?"
I do and so do you. You make decisions like that every day without even thinking about it. If you step in front of an approaching truck you have a high statistical probability of dying, so you decide to wait 'til it's passed and there's a safe gap in traffic. You probably make multiple such decisions daily.
The chances of dying in a terrorist attack play practically no part in my daily decision making, because there is practically zero chance of it happening.
"You don't mind being under surveillance when you are the beach by life guards, because you know they are there to watch over you and protect you."
This ridiculous comparison proves you're either not smart enough or not honest enough to play a meaningful part in this discussion.
"Pandora is just trying to get wealthy on the backs of musicians."
Pandora are asking to pay the same rates as terrestrial radio stations, an action you claim is them "trying to get wealthy on the backs of musicians". So are you implying that terrestrial radio stations are already getting wealthy on the backs of musicians? Because that's the only logical conclusion to make from your claim. So where's your rant about terrestrial radio stations getting wealthy on the backs of musicians? Should I look on The Trichordist?
Pretentious wankers like this probably don't even realise that these sorts of actions can leave a very sour taste in fans' mouths, and are probably far more damaging than YouTube could ever be.
Re: Expected Techhive to be one of Mike's piratey pals...
"While television stations and newspapers would be easily prosecutable for such behavior..."
Hard to take seriously someone who compares a search engine to TV and newspapers. Not hard for Blue though...
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You say they didn't listen to their customers, then say dismal preorders were a factor in this decision. You realise that preorders come from customers right?
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Hey, thanks for providing a detailed and complete rebuttal of the article, and providing sources to back up your claims so we can check them out and weigh up Mike's claims against yours, and make up our minds based on who provided the strongest argument. Well done!
Re: Oh, I doubt the mythical exculpatory evidence!
"In any case, you can't rely on "dog ate my homework"."
Actually, in court you can rely on that when the dog is the prosecutor and the homework is material evidence.
"If Dotcom is so darned eager to prove his innocence, he can hop on a plane for the US and get it over with."
I'm not sure if this statement is made out of ignorance, malice or both...
If you were accused of a crime in another country and set to be extradited, and you considered yourself to be innocent, would you willingly jump on a plane and present yourself to the authorities knowing that you'll spend the next year or two stuck in that country and having to put your entire life on hold? Do you leave your family? (Dotcom has a wife and five kids remember.) Or do you uproot them from their lives too? Do you just quit your job? (Probably no choice there.) Is that what you'd do Blue?
No, of course it's not. Since you believe you're innocent you'd fight every effort to you drag you into that hell. Even if you assume Dotcom would get a fair trial (far from guaranteed) and can win, it's still something no sane person would volunteer for.
The extradition process is not just to ensure criminals can be returned to the country where a crime was committed, but also to ensure people who are innocent or unlikely to be found guilty are not unduly punished before a verdict is even delivered.
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Sorry, who got censored where in this story?
Re: Mike and Tolles against AG investigating Google for antitrust.
"Anyhoo, when more than one AG comes after you, it's just possible that you're engaged in fairly obvious fiddling."
Nice appeal to authority there. Obviously there's no reason to believe that if one AG seeks to improve their chances of career advancement by grandstanding on a stupid issue like this, that others would jump on the bandwagon for the same ulterior motives. No, AG's clearly have moral superiority when in numbers...
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"...don't address the merits of anything I say."
Very little you have to say at the moment has any merit. You have quite literally lowered yourself to the level of spam.
Re: Who cares
So you're trying to convince us that you've never done anything in your life that was completely legal but you'd still like to keep completely private? Man your life must be dull...
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"What a shame that you can't be bothered to defend anything you publish. That says it all about you, unfortunately."
The fact that you feel fully entitled to an author's time and attention says a lot about you. You have an unrealistically high impression of your own worth.
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"So Mike, are you saying that whistleblowers should just not even try to report whatever wrongs they perceive through proper channels first?"
Did you even read the link that was in the text you quoted? Clearly not, or you'd realise how ignorant your comment sounds. Why would you choose a path that will have the exact opposite outcome that you want?
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Feel free to link to examples of Mike attacking someone while ignoring the merits of what they said. If it's so common it should be easy for you. Way you go, we'll wait...
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"...trying to draw out a sophisticated debate here..."
Can you point to which parts of your contribution you consider to be "sophisticated"? Because I'm seeing a staggering lack of sophistication in all the people 'criticizing' this post and the commentors who support it.
If think the sheer volume of flagged comments proves AG Wright's point. Someone clearly wants this discussion shut down or discredited.
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"And they spoke English !!"
While discussing their plot between themselves? No, not likely.
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"I don't live my life based on the statistical probability of the method of my death!!! Do you?"
I do and so do you. You make decisions like that every day without even thinking about it. If you step in front of an approaching truck you have a high statistical probability of dying, so you decide to wait 'til it's passed and there's a safe gap in traffic. You probably make multiple such decisions daily.
The chances of dying in a terrorist attack play practically no part in my daily decision making, because there is practically zero chance of it happening.
"You don't mind being under surveillance when you are the beach by life guards, because you know they are there to watch over you and protect you."
This ridiculous comparison proves you're either not smart enough or not honest enough to play a meaningful part in this discussion.
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"So according to this idiot, if you simply tell the security services you are no threat that is somehow supposed to prove you are no threat?"
No, that's not what he said, and only a complete moron could possibly interpret it that way.
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"Runs and hides.
Every single time."
So Mike, who posts under his real name every day, is "hiding", says his anonymous accuser.
Irony, thy name is AC...
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"Pandora is just trying to get wealthy on the backs of musicians."
Pandora are asking to pay the same rates as terrestrial radio stations, an action you claim is them "trying to get wealthy on the backs of musicians". So are you implying that terrestrial radio stations are already getting wealthy on the backs of musicians? Because that's the only logical conclusion to make from your claim. So where's your rant about terrestrial radio stations getting wealthy on the backs of musicians? Should I look on The Trichordist?
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Not terrorist, TerrORist! It's right there in the name...
Re: On the way out
Pretentious wankers like this probably don't even realise that these sorts of actions can leave a very sour taste in fans' mouths, and are probably far more damaging than YouTube could ever be.
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"it's what you sign onto when you join the military, it's called an "ethic"."
No, it's called a rule, and rules are not ethics.
"I know ethic's are foreign to you, you might want to look it up."
Ironic, since you've mangled the definition of ethics so badly.