blue, what your not getting is that of those "Freeloaders" a large % buy stuff from the in game store, but dont subscribe.
I for one have spent more on games like STO and korean mmo's then I ever have or will on p2p games.
with p2p I feel like i have to play or im wasting money, with f2p i dont, I can take a break, come back at any time and pick it back up, no feeling bad about having paid and not playing.
I infact know a few people who spent 4-8x a monthly sub on f2p games like STO, they see something they want in game, they buy some credits in game and get it.
SWTOR is a bad WoW clone set in the SW universe, thats why they went f2p, subs where plummiting and their profits where dropping like a rock in a vacuum, so they had to do something.
Rift is going f2p, Tera went F2p, face it, the p2p model is dieing/dead, there are very few mmo's or other games that can sustain it, and those the stick to it, enlarge would make more using a freemium model(f2p with subs and cash shop)
and as others pointed out, even players who never buy anything provide a service by just being there.
another service they provide not mentioned is word of mouth AND friends who spend, I have a buddy whos bought me stuff in games we play(f2p mmo's) because i was skint and he wanted to help me out, I have dont the same for others in the past......so f2p players who dont sub are important, even the ones who dont themselves have money to spend on the games.
read the link, Monarchy has more the one form, and in many cases(listed in the link) its the only way a system will turn from absolute monarchy to any other system without violent insurrection.
given the situation in this country (and others like it) the best move would be a slow transition to Constitutional Monarchy rather then trying to go to a full democracy or a democratic republic(as we have here in the states)
you cant really say our system works any better then theirs really, our politicians do whatever is best for themselves and the corporate masters, not whats best for We The People, or the nation as a whole...
DH I normally agree with what you post but in this case, I think your a big short sighted and have this impression that our systems the best system...i really think our systems headed for collapse, its nolonger about democracy its become about fascism/corporatism....and that makes me a sad panda.
honestly the only fix for this fascist bullshit is to get the dumbfucks to vote something other then R or D....but they are so fucking stupid they really think either of the 2 are out for the good of "We the people" rather hten the good of "We the corporations"
Having visited FL, I can tell you, their drivers are INSANE, anything to make it less safe deserves a law suit and possibly criminal charges(they can always trump something up, they do it to us normal people all the time)
and OMFG OOTB posting something that was of any use....*faints*
as to this story, i really hope some citizens sue, also hope somebody sees some gain in criminal charges for those who caused this, they are causing injury and death in the persuet of monetary gain....
she also fits a form of narcisistic personality disorder that an old friend of mines sister has, they act almost identical, shes actually labeled disabled because of it....shes been in "treatment" for over 20years....various doctors give up because you just cant work with her....shes also done a good bit of jail time for pissing off judges....
having worked at mcd's the pies go in runs, sometimes they sell very very well, other times, can sell none for days.
on the other hand shakes/icecream, sell very well even in winter, it was nuts how many people would come in and get a large fry and shake for lunch even...
I think you should read up on lolicon and shotacon, those are 100% indicative of the japanese culture as well....
if you think any of that is "main stream" (what either of us mentioned) your an idiot.
Having a few friends who have lived in/do live in japan, I can tell you, the vision most westerners have of japan is fucking twisted and nuts.
1. in most places the japanes dont really give a shit about same sex couples, just like most americans dont really give a shit when it comes down to it.
infact, in japan long standing tradition is for ment to play the female roles in plays....some male actors effectively live their lives as women because those are the roles they play and they like dressing/acting that way all the time.....
2. otaku are effectively geeks, and i have been told this over and over, some are insane geeks that are truly rare in the west but most are just like the trekies and comic fans who go to cons and dress up...and they get the same reaction there as here....those who arent part of the "geek" culture dont get it and think their weird...
3.'fujoshi' is a term that girls/women who like to read 'yaoi'(also known as Boys love) gave themselves, and yes they are seen as deviant, but no more so then anybody else whos into porn and dosnt hide it....
the fact is, there are people in japan who hate gays, but, I have never been able to get anybody I know whos from japan or whos lived there to recount a case where there was the bile filled vitriolic hate spewed at homosexuals or anybody that I see on a fairly regular basis here in the states....its just not socially acceptable to be that kinda douchebag in public.
oh mind, my friends who live over there or have lived over there would have noticed and they are geeks/otaku, not the crazy kind though, no closets full of yaoi or shotacon/lolicon or the like, just lots of anime and games and figuriens and shit....oh and fucktons of tech we never see hit the US market....(one of them has something like 15 minidisk players....I sooo use to want one!!!)
OH and I do agree with your last line's point, Im from this country and i wana cry when I see people use that line/term....so many fucktards in this country....so very many...
but, leaving it in would alienate guys like this douche bag moralfag.....so in his view they did the right thing on all counts....didnt you get the memo gays are not people, nore are women or colored people....so say the 50's guy!!!
I think you are failing to understand one simple concept here, from this fellows perspective the only valid religion is his, and the only source of valid morals is his religion.
from his perspective the fact that
woman are not property of men anymore is bad and evil.
blacks/coloreds having rights and the vote is bad.
gays not being to afrade of death to come out of the closit is bad.
this is justified by his religion due to their need for more followers.
gay couples dont produce more children that can be raised to follow the believes and ways of the religion, this means they dont get the money and political power from gays they would from breeders, hence gays are bad.
honestly read his posts, its VERY clear hes a 50's guy whos very unhappy to be in the modern world, and he would love nothing more then to go back.
hell if it wasnt for the fact that he hates muslims and islam he would move to the middle east where his attitude would fit right in with much of society.
seems people are failing to get that this guy and his moralfag ilk are stuck in the 1950's.
I bet you he also expects his wife/gf to shutup and look pretty, as well as expecting her to do all the housework and shit....
please understand things from his point of view, things where better when strait white men ruled the world and
women just sat around looking pretty
gays stayed in the closet, and if they came out they got beat down/dead.
blacks/coloreds stayed to their part of town....
oh and when only white males had the vote....things where wonderful till all these stupid people went and ruined it by wanting equial rights and respect.
didnt you know, gay buttsecks makes go angery so hes punishing the world.
oh and britney spheres what was it 55hr marriage? that was a true example of the sanctity of marriage!!!
I really am starting to think that somebody touched this poor guy in a bad place as a child and now hes all butthurt over it.....
I love how his kind(moralfags) always equate anything they dont like with moral corruption....they think their morals are the only valid morals.....funny stuff....would be even funnier if the govt wasnt full of people who feel the same way and want to force their "morals" on the rest of us...
sorry, im far from gay, and I find your comments to be some of the most homophobic faggy things i have read outside of a right wing forum/blog full of faux news viewers.
Im sorry that buttsecks really really bothers you.
Im sorry that the idea of 2 people of teh same sex loving eachother offends your ideals and "morals"
I for one will continue to respect and be friends with homosexuals I know and grew up around, I dont share their love of the buttsecks, but, as long as i dont gotta see it, I really dont care what they do when they are alone.
your fascination and fixation on what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms really is something you should seek help for, its not normal, infact, having taken a number of psychology courses I would say its quite deviant and disturbing that you spend so much time and effort fixating on other peoples private lives.
please seek help...if not for your own sake, for the sake of those around you.
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im still not gonna buy their products after this stunt, they can go fornicate themselves if they wana act like this.
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link please.
Re: Techdirt continually mistakes "loss leader" with "FREE".
blue, what your not getting is that of those "Freeloaders" a large % buy stuff from the in game store, but dont subscribe.
I for one have spent more on games like STO and korean mmo's then I ever have or will on p2p games.
with p2p I feel like i have to play or im wasting money, with f2p i dont, I can take a break, come back at any time and pick it back up, no feeling bad about having paid and not playing.
I infact know a few people who spent 4-8x a monthly sub on f2p games like STO, they see something they want in game, they buy some credits in game and get it.
SWTOR is a bad WoW clone set in the SW universe, thats why they went f2p, subs where plummiting and their profits where dropping like a rock in a vacuum, so they had to do something.
Rift is going f2p, Tera went F2p, face it, the p2p model is dieing/dead, there are very few mmo's or other games that can sustain it, and those the stick to it, enlarge would make more using a freemium model(f2p with subs and cash shop)
and as others pointed out, even players who never buy anything provide a service by just being there.
another service they provide not mentioned is word of mouth AND friends who spend, I have a buddy whos bought me stuff in games we play(f2p mmo's) because i was skint and he wanted to help me out, I have dont the same for others in the past......so f2p players who dont sub are important, even the ones who dont themselves have money to spend on the games.
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because they are Nintendo, and they need the money.
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ever hear of Constitutional Monarchy's?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_monarchy
read the link, Monarchy has more the one form, and in many cases(listed in the link) its the only way a system will turn from absolute monarchy to any other system without violent insurrection.
given the situation in this country (and others like it) the best move would be a slow transition to Constitutional Monarchy rather then trying to go to a full democracy or a democratic republic(as we have here in the states)
you cant really say our system works any better then theirs really, our politicians do whatever is best for themselves and the corporate masters, not whats best for We The People, or the nation as a whole...
DH I normally agree with what you post but in this case, I think your a big short sighted and have this impression that our systems the best system...i really think our systems headed for collapse, its nolonger about democracy its become about fascism/corporatism....and that makes me a sad panda.
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honestly the only fix for this fascist bullshit is to get the dumbfucks to vote something other then R or D....but they are so fucking stupid they really think either of the 2 are out for the good of "We the people" rather hten the good of "We the corporations"
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Having visited FL, I can tell you, their drivers are INSANE, anything to make it less safe deserves a law suit and possibly criminal charges(they can always trump something up, they do it to us normal people all the time)
and OMFG OOTB posting something that was of any use....*faints*
as to this story, i really hope some citizens sue, also hope somebody sees some gain in criminal charges for those who caused this, they are causing injury and death in the persuet of monetary gain....
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I was thinking electro shock therapy/electro convulsive therapy....the kind that removes a persons personality and long term memories.....
she could also use a ballgag that could really help her attractiveness alot...
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she also fits a form of narcisistic personality disorder that an old friend of mines sister has, they act almost identical, shes actually labeled disabled because of it....shes been in "treatment" for over 20years....various doctors give up because you just cant work with her....shes also done a good bit of jail time for pissing off judges....
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having worked at mcd's the pies go in runs, sometimes they sell very very well, other times, can sell none for days.
on the other hand shakes/icecream, sell very well even in winter, it was nuts how many people would come in and get a large fry and shake for lunch even...
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thats probably when daddy/uncle/exct touched him in his naughty place.....
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faggot in my book is defigned as people like "the real michael"...or harley riders....
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I think you should read up on lolicon and shotacon, those are 100% indicative of the japanese culture as well....
if you think any of that is "main stream" (what either of us mentioned) your an idiot.
Having a few friends who have lived in/do live in japan, I can tell you, the vision most westerners have of japan is fucking twisted and nuts.
1. in most places the japanes dont really give a shit about same sex couples, just like most americans dont really give a shit when it comes down to it.
infact, in japan long standing tradition is for ment to play the female roles in plays....some male actors effectively live their lives as women because those are the roles they play and they like dressing/acting that way all the time.....
2. otaku are effectively geeks, and i have been told this over and over, some are insane geeks that are truly rare in the west but most are just like the trekies and comic fans who go to cons and dress up...and they get the same reaction there as here....those who arent part of the "geek" culture dont get it and think their weird...
3.'fujoshi' is a term that girls/women who like to read 'yaoi'(also known as Boys love) gave themselves, and yes they are seen as deviant, but no more so then anybody else whos into porn and dosnt hide it....
the fact is, there are people in japan who hate gays, but, I have never been able to get anybody I know whos from japan or whos lived there to recount a case where there was the bile filled vitriolic hate spewed at homosexuals or anybody that I see on a fairly regular basis here in the states....its just not socially acceptable to be that kinda douchebag in public.
oh mind, my friends who live over there or have lived over there would have noticed and they are geeks/otaku, not the crazy kind though, no closets full of yaoi or shotacon/lolicon or the like, just lots of anime and games and figuriens and shit....oh and fucktons of tech we never see hit the US market....(one of them has something like 15 minidisk players....I sooo use to want one!!!)
OH and I do agree with your last line's point, Im from this country and i wana cry when I see people use that line/term....so many fucktards in this country....so very many...
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why cant people get it, in this guys view(circa 1950)
1. gays arent people/human they are just abhorrent animals that should be put down for the good of all moralfags like himself.
2. woman arent people because they arent men.
3. coloreds arent people because they arent white men like him....
pretty simple, his views are strait out of the 50's....
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but, leaving it in would alienate guys like this douche bag moralfag.....so in his view they did the right thing on all counts....didnt you get the memo gays are not people, nore are women or colored people....so say the 50's guy!!!
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I think you are failing to understand one simple concept here, from this fellows perspective the only valid religion is his, and the only source of valid morals is his religion.
from his perspective the fact that
woman are not property of men anymore is bad and evil.
blacks/coloreds having rights and the vote is bad.
gays not being to afrade of death to come out of the closit is bad.
this is justified by his religion due to their need for more followers.
gay couples dont produce more children that can be raised to follow the believes and ways of the religion, this means they dont get the money and political power from gays they would from breeders, hence gays are bad.
honestly read his posts, its VERY clear hes a 50's guy whos very unhappy to be in the modern world, and he would love nothing more then to go back.
hell if it wasnt for the fact that he hates muslims and islam he would move to the middle east where his attitude would fit right in with much of society.
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seems people are failing to get that this guy and his moralfag ilk are stuck in the 1950's.
I bet you he also expects his wife/gf to shutup and look pretty, as well as expecting her to do all the housework and shit....
please understand things from his point of view, things where better when strait white men ruled the world and
women just sat around looking pretty
gays stayed in the closet, and if they came out they got beat down/dead.
blacks/coloreds stayed to their part of town....
oh and when only white males had the vote....things where wonderful till all these stupid people went and ruined it by wanting equial rights and respect.
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didnt you know, gay buttsecks makes go angery so hes punishing the world.
oh and britney spheres what was it 55hr marriage? that was a true example of the sanctity of marriage!!!
I really am starting to think that somebody touched this poor guy in a bad place as a child and now hes all butthurt over it.....
I love how his kind(moralfags) always equate anything they dont like with moral corruption....they think their morals are the only valid morals.....funny stuff....would be even funnier if the govt wasnt full of people who feel the same way and want to force their "morals" on the rest of us...
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aww did somebodies daddy/uncle touch him in a bad place?
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Moralfag is "moral".....
sorry, im far from gay, and I find your comments to be some of the most homophobic faggy things i have read outside of a right wing forum/blog full of faux news viewers.
Im sorry that buttsecks really really bothers you.
Im sorry that the idea of 2 people of teh same sex loving eachother offends your ideals and "morals"
I for one will continue to respect and be friends with homosexuals I know and grew up around, I dont share their love of the buttsecks, but, as long as i dont gotta see it, I really dont care what they do when they are alone.
your fascination and fixation on what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms really is something you should seek help for, its not normal, infact, having taken a number of psychology courses I would say its quite deviant and disturbing that you spend so much time and effort fixating on other peoples private lives.
please seek help...if not for your own sake, for the sake of those around you.