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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:21:23 PDT</pubDate>
<title>CISPA Passes The House, As 288 Representatives Don't Want To Protect Your Privacy</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This is not wholly surprising, but after some debate and some half-hearted attempts at <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130417/13393422747/latest-cispa-privacy-amendment-is-more-same-minor-changes-dressed-up-as-real-solutions.shtml">pretending</a> they care about the public's privacy rights, the House has <a href="https://twitter.com/BrendanSasso/status/324931015103614976" target="_blank">passed CISPA, 288 votes against 127</a>.  The vote breakdown did not go fully along party lines, though it was clearly Republican driven.  196 Republicans voted for it, while just 29 voted against it (despite numerous conservative groups <a href="http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/16/cispa-shouldnt-infringe-on-freedom-of-contract/" target="_blank">coming out against</a> the bill).  The Democrats split down the middle.  92 Dems voted for it and 98 against.  If you compare this to last year, it looks like a lot more Democrats went from opposing to being in favor of trampling your privacy rights.  Last year, 140 Dems voted against CISPA and only 42 for it.  Either way, this seems like a pretty bi-partisan decision to shaft the American public on their privacy rights.  That said, there is still the threat of a Presidential veto (though, with the vote today, the House is close to being able to override a veto).  The bigger question is now the Senate, which couldn't agree on a cybersecurity bill last year, and has shown no signs of improvement this year.  If you want to protect your privacy, it's time to focus on the Senate, and make sure they know not to pass a privacy-destroying bill like CISPA.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130418/10170622751/cispa-passes-house-as-288-representatives-dont-want-to-protect-your-privacy.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130418/10170622751/cispa-passes-house-as-288-representatives-dont-want-to-protect-your-privacy.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130418/10170622751/cispa-passes-house-as-288-representatives-dont-want-to-protect-your-privacy.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:18:02 PDT</pubDate>
<title>White House Threatens To Veto CISPA If Privacy Is Not Protected</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While it had hinted at a veto threat earlier, the White House has now put out a statement on CISPA that, if privacy protections are not added to the bill, <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/113/saphr624r_20130416.pdf" target="_blank">it will likely veto the bill</a>.  I know some cynical folks will note the possibility of an out, and the chance that he'll sign the bill anyway, but hopefully the meaningful threat of a veto will convince Congress to think twice about passing a bad bill that wipes out privacy protections.
<blockquote><i>
Both government and private companies need cyber threat information to allow them to identify, prevent, and respond to malicious activity that can disrupt networks and could potentially damage critical infrastructure. The Administration believes that carefully updating laws to facilitate cybersecurity information sharing is one of several legislative changes essential to protect individuals' privacy and improve the Nation's cybersecurity. While there is bipartisan consensus on the need for such legislation, it should adhere to the following priorities: (1) carefully safeguard privacy and civil liberties; (2) preserve the long-standing, respective roles and missions of civilian and intelligence agencies; and (3) provide for appropriate sharing with targeted liability protections.
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The Administration recognizes and appreciates that the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) adopted several amendments to H.R. 624 in an effort to incorporate the Administration's important substantive concerns. <u>However, the Administration still seeks additional improvements and if the bill, as currently crafted, were presented to the President, his senior advisors would recommend that he veto the bill</u>. The Administration seeks to build upon the continuing dialogue with the HPSCI and stands ready to work with members of Congress to incorporate our core priorities to produce cybersecurity information sharing legislation that addresses these critical issues.
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There are some <a href="http://www.rules.house.gov/Legislation/legislationDetails.aspx?NewsID=1069" target="_blank">good amendments proposed</a>, which would help protect privacy, but it's unclear how likely they are to pass.
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Furthermore, it's still quite troubling that no one seems willing to explain why this is needed, and what existing laws are somehow getting in the way of important information being shared.  We keep asking that question, and it seems odd that no one replies other than "but... but... but... cyberattacks from China!!"<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130416/13132722727/white-house-threatens-to-veto-cispa-if-privacy-is-not-protected.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130416/13132722727/white-house-threatens-to-veto-cispa-if-privacy-is-not-protected.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130416/13132722727/white-house-threatens-to-veto-cispa-if-privacy-is-not-protected.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:12:46 PST</pubDate>
<title>Why Does The Entertainment Industry Insist That It Can Veto Any Innovation It Doesn't Like?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For years, we've seen that the entertainment industry honestly seems to think that it has the right to veto and kill off any new technology that doesn't fit into its own business model plans.  Of course, they've had some support in this from copyright maximalists, like former head of the Copyright Office, Ralph Oman, who recently declared that all new technologies that impact content should <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120927/00320920527/former-copyright-boss-new-technology-should-be-presumed-illegal-until-congress-says-otherwise.shtml">be presumed illegal</a> until Congress decides otherwise.  Can you imagine what sort of innovation we'd have in the consumer electronics space if we had to wait for Congress' approval for each new device?  Especially given the power to lobby against such approvals?
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I'm reminded of this thanks to News Corp. (via Fox) filing for a <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/fox-blasts-newest-dish-hopper-in-court-wants-it-off-the-market/" target="_blank">new injunction against Dish Networks</a> for the latest version of its DVR, the Dish Hopper with Sling.  Now, you may recall that Fox already tried to get an injunction against Dish's Hopper with Sling and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121113/02171921026/details-ruling-over-dishs-autohopper-show-fox-lost-nearly-all-important-issues.shtml">lost pretty badly</a> (even as it pretended that it had <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121107/17021220966/judge-rejects-foxs-attempt-to-shut-down-dishs-autohop-feature-indicates-it-may-still-infringe.shtml">won</a>).  Fox is appealing that decision, but also filed a new request for an injunction against the updated device, claiming that the key new feature,  Hopper Transfers, goes beyond anything else and (once again), must be stopped.
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This is the same old story over and over again.  The last century plus of copyright law has been driven by the entertainment industry <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20111108/17562016686/history-hyperbolic-overreaction-to-copyright-issues-entertainment-industry-technology.shtml">flipping out</a> time and time again over new innovations that they don't think should be allowed.  The 1909 Copyright Act was driven, in large part, by the introduction of the evil player piano, leading many to insist that this would kill the demand for live music and put musicians out of work.
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Around that time, there was also the invention of the gramophone, or, as John Philip Sousa called it, "that infernal machine."  He famously claimed, "these talking machines are going to ruin the artistic development of music in this country," and that "we will not have a vocal cord left," because evolution will deem them not necessary due to "talking machines."
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Then along came radio, and it too, was destined to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110925/18065916083/radio-is-killing-music.shtml">wipe out the industry</a>, with ASCAP demanding that any song that was to be played on the radio first needed to (a) get permission from the rights holder and (b) have the DJ state clearly before <i>each song</i> that it was being played "by special permission" from the rightsholder.  When people started mocking that phrase (and someone even wrote a song about it), ASCAP stated that the permission line had to be spoken by DJs with "no facetious trifling."
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Moving on, along came cable TV to add some competition to the TV market.  And what happened?  <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13012024816130931072&#038;hl=en&#038;as_sdt=2&#038;as_vis=1&#038;oi=scholarr" target="_blank">Lawsuits</a> of course.  "It would be difficult to imagine a more flagrant violation of the Copyright Act," we were told.
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And you may have heard what happened when the original VCR was invented.  Why the MPAA's Jack Valenti had a <a href="http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm" target="_blank">thing or two</a> to say about that:
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I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.
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Cassette recorder?  "Home taping is killing music."
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DVR? Must be illegal.  According to the head of Turner Broadcasting: "People who watch TV without commercials are stealing from the entertainment producers."
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How about the first real MP3 player, the Diamond Rio?  Lawsuit filed in which it was stated that allowing the device, "will injure not only the record companies and artists whose work will be pirated, but also the music publishers, musicians, background singers, songwriters and others whose existence is dependent on revenue earned by record sales."
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YouTube?  Viacom's lawsuit is still ongoing, but Viacom insisted that, if allowed, YouTube would "severely impair, if not completely destroy, the value of many copyrighted creations."
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And lets not even get into all of the technologies that the entertainment industry has been shutting down over the past few years.  Zediva?  Dead.  ivi? Gone.   Aereo?  Still here, but fighting.  Veoh?  Dead (even though it won its lawsuit).  MP3Tunes?  Bankrupt due to lawsuit (even though it won too).  There are many more as well.
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See a pattern yet?  This pattern repeats over and over and over and over again.  The entertainment industry, aided by the Copyright Office, seems to think that there's some sort of role it has to play in giving the yay or nay vote to any new technological innovation that concerns content consumption.  And, of course, the vote is <i>always</i> "nay."  In the long run, that always turns out to be the wrong vote.  So why do we constantly allow the entertainment industry to get away with this nonsense?  This filing from Fox is merely the latest in a very long line of these kinds of actions, and it should be immensely troubling to those who recognize that the best way for the entertainment industry itself to thrive in the modern world is to embrace these new services, which <i>increase value</i> to consumers and make them <i>more interested</i> in watching/listening to the content being produced.
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You would think that, after a century of these examples, those in the entertainment industry might finally realize that looking for the opportunities in these innovations is a more productive strategy than trying to kill every new technology.  Apparently, however, the industry is still run by people who have no sense of history, other than the history of always ratcheting up copyright enforcement.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130224/22344422088/why-does-entertainment-industry-insist-that-it-can-veto-any-innovation-it-doesnt-like.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130224/22344422088/why-does-entertainment-industry-insist-that-it-can-veto-any-innovation-it-doesnt-like.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130224/22344422088/why-does-entertainment-industry-insist-that-it-can-veto-any-innovation-it-doesnt-like.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 4 May 2012 08:31:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>White House Reiterates Plans To Veto CISPA In Its Current Form; Though For The Wrong Reasons</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As I'm sure you remember, the House <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml">passed</a> CISPA with a few amendments -- some of which may have limited the possible abuses, while at the same time <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120427/08375418687/did-cispa-actually-get-better-before-passing-not-really.shtml">expanding the scope</a>.  Right before the bill went up for a vote, the White House stated that it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120425/12445718657/obama-administration-threatens-to-veto-cispa.shtml">would veto CISPA</a>, if it got to the President's desk.  It appears that, even with the amendments, the White House is still not willing to support the bill.  White House "Cybersecurity Coordinator" Howard Schmidt <a href="http://www.c-span.org/Events/White-House-Cybersecurity-Coordinator-Howard-Schmidt/10737430420/" target="_blank">appeared on CSPAN reiterating the White House's objections</a> to CISPA, specifically calling out the problematic privacy issues.
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That said, the White House <i>is</i> still supporting the Lieberman cybersecurity bill in the Senate, which isn't quite as bad as some of the other proposals, but still has plenty of problems.  And, most importantly, still doesn't include any clear explanation for why it's needed.  It's bizarre and troubling that no one in the federal government seems willing to provide a real justification for any of these bills others than "oooooh, it's scary out there on the internet!!"<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120503/14333318769/white-house-reiterates-plans-to-veto-cispa-its-current-form-though-wrong-reasons.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120503/14333318769/white-house-reiterates-plans-to-veto-cispa-its-current-form-though-wrong-reasons.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120503/14333318769/white-house-reiterates-plans-to-veto-cispa-its-current-form-though-wrong-reasons.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:49:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Obama Administration Threatens To Veto CISPA</title>
<dc:creator>Leigh Beadon</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Yesterday, the Guardian <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/24/cispa-cybersecurity-bill-opposed-obama" target="_blank">reported</a> that the Obama administration officially opposed CISPA&mdash;but they also noted that there was no mention of the V-word. Now that's changed. The executive office just released a statement which says in no uncertain terms that <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57421267-281/white-house-takes-aim-at-cispa-with-formal-veto-threat/" target="_blank">they will be pushing for a veto of the bill</a>:</p>

<blockquote><em>Legislation should address core critical infrastructure vulnerabilities without sacrificing the fundamental values of privacy and civil liberties for our citizens, especially at a time our Nation is facing challenges to our economic well-being and national security.  The Administration looks forward to continuing to engage with the Congress in a bipartisan, bicameral fashion to enact cybersecurity legislation to address these critical issues.  <u>However, for the reasons stated herein, if H.R. 3523 were presented to the President, his senior advisors would recommend that he veto the bill.</u></em></blockquote>

<p>The administration's concerns mirror those of civil liberties groups, and could be (partially) addressed by some of the amendments we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120424/21092718639/now-is-time-to-improve-cispa-before-fridays-vote-pushing-these-critical-amendments.shtml">looked at</a> earlier. But hopefully this clear statement from the White House provides the necessary final push to stop CISPA in its tracks and start working on a better security bill with the help of people who actually know what they're doing.</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120425/12445718657/obama-administration-threatens-to-veto-cispa.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120425/12445718657/obama-administration-threatens-to-veto-cispa.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120425/12445718657/obama-administration-threatens-to-veto-cispa.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Would Obama Veto SOPA? Extremely Doubtful</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I usually like the work of Arik Hesseldahl, who's pretty sharp in his reporting, but it appears he may have waded into a subject where he doesn't have much knowledge, in arguing that <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111226/obama-likes-the-internet-so-hell-probably-veto-sopa-if-it-gets-that-far/?mod=tweet" target="_blank">Obama would likely veto SOPA</a> should it pass out of Congress and land on his desk.  Arik's summary is that Obama "likes the internet," so he'd probably veto such an anti-internet bill.  No offense to Arik, who perhaps just wanted a quick holiday post on the subject, but that shows little understanding of the history of Obama on intellectual property issues, or the many, many signals that the administration has been giving over the bill.  In fact, the signals suggest pretty strongly that if the bill landed on his desk today, President Obama would sign it into law with little hesitation -- and declare it a victory for the economy and American jobs.
<br /><br />
No doubt: there is a significant split inside the administration from everything we've heard.  Much of the State Department is strenuously opposed to the bill, knowing darn well that it would do significant harm to their efforts to push internet freedom and openness around the globe.  SOPA supporters love to point to the letter that Hillary Clinton sent to Rep. Howard Berman about how there's no conflict about protecting intellectual property and working for internet freedom.  But they're significantly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111104/23411816644/secret-behind-sopa-defense-insist-that-it-doesnt-say-what-it-actually-says.shtml">overplaying</a> the letter, which was written before SOPA came out and didn't mention SOPA at all.  In fact, it would be a hilariously bad breach of standard protocol for Clinton to take a position on a bill before the White House made its official position clear, and everyone involved in the debate knows that, even if they pretend otherwise.  Either way, multiple sources within the State Department have made it abundantly clear that State has been putting tremendous pressure on people to either fix SOPA or kill it altogether.  They're not happy.  Ditto for many in the Commerce Department, who see how bad it would be for the economy to have a bill like SOPA in place.  The feelings there aren't quite as strong as at State, but they definitely appear to lean towards opposed (or, at the very least, neutral).
<br /><br />
There are also voices in both Homeland Security and the Defense Department who are worried about the online security aspects as a part of the DNS blocking features of the bill.  Of course, those voices are likely outweighed by those who like the ability to shut down domains -- such as ICE, who would gladly support SOPA.  The Justice Department, also, appears to be a huge, huge, huge supporter of SOPA, seeing as it would give them much greater powers to shut down websites.
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Then, of course, there's the White House itself.  And, again, there appears to be a bit of a mix of feelings there, but the leaning definitely appears to be towards supporting the bill.  Throughout his administration, the President has left almost all intellectual property issues up to Vice President Joe Biden, who has been about as big a copyright maximalist as can be.  He's the guy who claimed that the heads of the biggest entertainment companies represented "all the stake holders" (public be damned) in a roundtable about intellectual property that he convened two years ago -- from which the ideas behind SOPA and PIPA came.  It's safe to assume that he's totally on board with the bills, and since Obama defers to him on these issues, you can expect this issue is pretty much decided.  There are a few others in the White House who may weigh in on the subject, including IP Czar Victoria Espinel.  Again, the likely guess is that she's in favor, having supported the plan to seize domains which is related to SOPA & PIPA.  Others in the White House include the CTO, Aneesh Chopra, who hasn't given much of an indication of where he'd fall on the issue, but has supported open internet initiatives in the past.  If I had to guess, I'd say he's mildly against the plans, but not enough to make a big deal about it.  If anything, he'd probably prefer that the bill be adjusted to make it slightly more palatable and then have it pass and be signed.
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Finally, there's Obama himself.  Heading into what may be a difficult election year, and dependent on money from Hollywood and unions (the big Democratic funders), this is an easy call.  He'd sign it in a heartbeat.  Any bill that has the support of the MPAA and the AFL-CIO is red meat for him when it comes to fundraising.  The whole "loves the internet" thing is great... if the internet donates.  The internet was certainly useful to Obama in the primaries last time around, but when it comes to the big fight, he needs the big guns.  So he's looking for the big cats, and those still support the bill in a big, bad way.  If you want a blueprint for how this works, just look at how he signed the patent reform bill a few months ago, despite widespread complaints among the tech industry about how the patent system was totally broken and the bill didn't help at all.  He still signed it and declared (incorrectly) that it would stimulate new jobs.  He'd do the exact same thing here.  Sign it, point to the AFL-CIO and US Chamber of Commerce support and talk about how this was a "jobs bill" that would "help the economy" by "protecting American jobs."  The internet?  Meh.  No one cares about the internet when Hollywood and the unions have checkbooks open.
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The <i>only</i> way that changes is if SOPA and PIPA become <i>so toxic</i> that any support is seen as career suicide -- and if that's the case, then the bill itself probably doesn't get out of Congress to get on his desk in the first place.  Getting GoDaddy to switch positions is one thing.  Getting these bills to the toxic level is a whole different ballgame, and we're certainly not there yet.  For those celebrating the "victory" over GoDaddy last week, this fight is <i>far, far, far</i> from over, and the MPAA and the other supporters of SOPA don't give up easily.  Both SOPA and PIPA are dangerous in the extreme, and still have a decent chance of passing, if people don't speak up <i>directly</i> to the politicians who continue to support these bills.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111226/23082117192/would-obama-veto-sopa-extremely-doubtful.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111226/23082117192/would-obama-veto-sopa-extremely-doubtful.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111226/23082117192/would-obama-veto-sopa-extremely-doubtful.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>US Gov't Interest In Domain Name Veto Represents Yet Another PR Nightmare</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, someone had sent over a document purporting to be from the Commerce Department advocating that ICANN's new open top level domain plan include a "government veto," that would let various government agencies seek to block a particular TLD.  We didn't write about it at the time, because I couldn't confirm that it was real, and the whole thing seemed so ridiculous and short-sighted I didn't think that it could have really come out of the Commerce Department.  Lesson learned: never underestimate the Commerce Department's ability to make really bad decisions.
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It appears that it's now been confirmed that the Commerce Department <a href="http://paidcontent.org/article/419-will-governments-get-to-veto-new-web-domains-like-.gay/" target="_blank">really does want veto power for any government</a> over a particular TLD.  The reports suggest that there's concern about TLD's like ".gay" which some countries may not like, and some of the fear is driven by the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100222/0253398249.shtml">.xxx debacle</a>, when ICANN initially <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050601/185234.shtml">approved</a> a .xxx domain, thinking it would be a "redlight district" for porn, but then after public outcry, the US government pressured ICANN to change its mind.  This was especially funny because no one seemed sure whether or not <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060329/1124240.shtml">.xxx was good or bad</a> for kids.  There were some people who thought .xxx would be "good" for kids by creating an area that was easy to rope off and keep kids out of.  Others argued that .xxx was bad because it admitted that porn existed (or something like that).
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The whole thing was a complete mess, and now the US government seems to want to repeat that process around the world.
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Here's why this is about as pointless as can be: already anyone can register any URL within the existing TLDs.  No government has any veto power over the part that comes <i>before</i> the TLD.  So what difference does it make to include a veto over what comes <i>after</i> the TLD.  In what world does it make sense to say that "gaysex.com" is okay but "sex.gay" is not?  Why does the government care?
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Even worse, this whole thing creates a massive unnecessary PR nightmare for the administration.  Already there are concerns around the world that ICANN -- a quasi-public/private entity -- is too much in the pocket of the US government.  The Commerce Department has always tried to deny this, insisting that ICANN had autonomy.  And yet... in pushing for this veto power, it's admitting that it actually does want to take greater control over ICANN... and to give other governments some veto power as well.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01163013003/us-govt-interest-domain-name-veto-represents-yet-another-pr-nightmare.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01163013003/us-govt-interest-domain-name-veto-represents-yet-another-pr-nightmare.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01163013003/us-govt-interest-domain-name-veto-represents-yet-another-pr-nightmare.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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