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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:03:12 PST</pubDate>
<title>Stop Saying 'If You're Not Paying, You're The Product'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/18272921446/stop-saying-if-youre-not-paying-youre-product.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We just wrote about how <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121217/10514521405/once-more-with-feeling-paid-software-doesnt-mean-company-treats-you-any-better-than-free-software.shtml">silly</a> it is to argue that companies you pay for their services or software somehow treat you better or are more "aligned" with user interests than those who give you products and services for free.  When you dig in on the subject, such claims don't make any sense.  In both cases, companies have some alignment with users -- because without users, they're nothing -- and some alignment with trying to make themselves money.  And sometimes those two alignments conflict, whether or not the user is paying directly.
<br /><br />
Derek Powazek (random trivia: whose work inspired me to learn how to create a web page back around 1995 or 1996 or so) has an excellent take on the pithy and dismissive phrase that many often use to argue that free services treat users worse:
<blockquote><i>
"If you're not paying for the product, you are the product."
</i></blockquote>
It's pithy and clever... and wrong. Powazek <a href="http://powazek.com/posts/3229" target="_blank">dismantles the claim eloquently</a>.  He attacks the underlying assumptions in that statement.  He highlights that "free with advertising" has been a pretty big business for a long long time, in which there's no indication that users were treated as "the product" or somehow treated poorly.  And then there's the key one: this is not an either/or situation:
<blockquote><i>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked for, and even run, many companies in the last 20 years with various business models. Some provided something free in an attempt to build an audience large enough to sell advertising, some charged customers directly, and some did a combination of both. All treated their users with varying levels of respect. <b>There was no correlation between how much money users paid and how well they were treated.</b></p>
<p>For example, at JPG Magazine we sold something to our audience (magazines, subscriptions, and ultimately other digital services) and we also sold ads and sponsorships (online and in print). We made it 100% clear to our members that their photos always belonged to them, and we had strict rules for what advertisers could do in the magazine. We also <i>paid our members</i> for the privilege of including their photos in the printed magazine (as opposed to Instagram&#8217;s new policy that they can use your photos however they want, even in ads, without paying you a dime). </p>
<p>This example is much more complicated than the black and white &#8220;you&#8217;re the product&#8221; logic allows. In some cases, users got the service for free. In others, they paid us to get the magazine. In still others, <i>we</i> paid <i>them</i>! So who/what is the product?</p>
<p>And just because you pay doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re not the product. Cable TV companies take our money and sell us to the channels, magazines take our money and still sell ads, banks and credit cards charge us money for the service of having our money. Any store that has a &#8220;loyalty card&#8221; takes our money for products but gives us a discount in exchange for the ability to monitor what we buy. In the real world, we routinely become &#8220;the product&#8221; even when we&#8217;re already paying.</p>
</i></blockquote>
He also points out, as I have many times, that there are plenty of companies whose services you pay for who treat their users atrociously.  And then points out what many of us have been arguing all along: there are all sorts of business models online.  Some work in some cases, others work in other cases.  But to argue that "free" services mean you're "the product" and thus not treated as well, simply isn't an accurate or realistic statement.  So can we please agree to kill it?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/18272921446/stop-saying-if-youre-not-paying-youre-product.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/18272921446/stop-saying-if-youre-not-paying-youre-product.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/18272921446/stop-saying-if-youre-not-paying-youre-product.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:27:08 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Seven Reasons Why Google Is Making A Mistake In Filtering Searches Based On DMCA Notices</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've been thinking some more about Google's announcement last week that it will be <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120810/10465419988/google-caves-to-hollywood-pressure-will-now-punish-sites-that-get-lots-valid-dmca-notices.shtml">filtering searches</a> based on how many DMCA notices a site gets.  Google insists that this <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-many-popular-sites-will-escape-pirate-penalty-130289?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=feed-main" target="_blank">shouldn't hurt "legitimate" sites</a>, because the DMCA notices are only a one factor in determining how a site gets listed (and, thus, it says that sites that get a ton of DMCA notices, like Facebook, IMDB, Tumblr, Twitter and Youtube shouldn't be impacted).  However, there are a few reasons why I think Google has made a mistake here.
<ol>
<li><b>This is the first change to Google's rankings that isn't in the best interest of its users.</b>  Google has argued that these new changes will actually benefit users by pointing them to "better" results.  That argument is effectively that sites that they are demoting in the rankings are akin to "spam" sites.  But there's a very big difference here.  Spam sites tend to be sites that the person doing the searching <b>doesn't want</b> and which clutter up the results.  For content searches, the searches that Google will be demoting actually might be the ones that the consumer <b>does want</b>.  Google has always been pretty religious about making sure the search results best matched what the searcher was, in fact, looking for.  But it's now changing that policy.  That seems like a dangerous step down a potentially very slippery slope.
</li><li><b>Admitting that it's willing to cave to the interests of businesses, rather than users, will lead to more such demands</b>.  Already, we've seen companies complain about how Google rankings work -- and Google could always point to the fact that it determined how to rank its results based on what was best for users.  But that's no longer the case, as others can point to Google caving in this one instance.  Expect other industries to start asking for special treatment here, too.  Google can fend these requests off, but it's going to start to get a lot of them.
</li><li><b>It's never enough.  The industry will always want more</b>: As we've already discussed, the MPAA and RIAA <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120812/23275520000/its-never-enough-both-riaa-mpaa-arent-satisfied-with-google-punishing-pirate-sites.shtml">aren't satisfied</a> with this move, and will continue to pressure Google to do even more.  Opening the door here won't mean that they'll suddenly be satisfied.  It's just going to convince them to keep up what they'd been doing in the past: complaining to anyone and everyone that Google doesn't do enough.
</li><li><b>Google's defense in anti-trust cases just got that much more difficult</b>: Google has always argued in the antitrust efforts against them, that the ratings results are the best for users, not for any particular business.  But this new effort will be pointed out time and time again to show that's not always the case, as those on the other side of antitrust fights will start asking why the RIAA and MPAA get special treatment, but others can't.
</li><li><b>This will harm new innovations</b>: As we noted above, Google claims this shouldn't hurt YouTube.  But, imagine if Google had this in place years back, when YouTube was first starting out.  It gets a bunch of DMCA notices early on, Google "filters" it down, and YouTube never becomes "YouTube" -- one of the most important tools that many artists today use for promoting, distributing and monetizing their works.  Did it have lots of infringement early on?  Hell yes.  Did it develop new tools that tons of artists now find so valuable that they rely on them every day?  Yes.  Would that have happened if Google had demoted them early on?  Probably not.
</li><li><b>This may hold back other search engines</b>: This one Google might not mind.  As the entertainment industry has done with things like Content ID, it will now argue that all other search engines, by default, should do the same thing -- even though most of them may not have the tools or the DMCA data to make this work effectively.  In doing this, Google may end up burdening other search engines -- especially upstarts -- in the space.  Google may not mind this, but historically Google has at least been a reasonably good neighbor in not actively trying to undermine competing search engines.
</li><li><b>This won't hold back infringement.  At all</b>.  The underlying rationale for this is that the RIAA and MPAA think that people searching for content online are too stupid to realize the difference between a paid link and a free link.  They think that if someone does a search on the name of a movie along with "free online," that if they're shown an authorized fee-based offer, they're willing to pay for it.  There's little evidence to support that.  The people doing such searches know exactly what they're looking for.  The real problem is not that Google is showing it to them, it's that the traditional entertainment industry players <i>aren't providing users what they want</i>. 
</li></ol>
The end result of all of this is that this move seems likely to hurt everyone and help no one.  It makes the entertainment industry marginally happier than they were, though still not satisfied.  And, historically, when the entertainment industry gets what it wants, it usually means that what it <i>needs</i> to actually help it move forward gets pushed further away.  That seems likely here as well.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120812/23494420001/seven-reasons-why-google-is-making-mistake-filtering-searches-based-dmca-notices.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120812/23494420001/seven-reasons-why-google-is-making-mistake-filtering-searches-based-dmca-notices.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120812/23494420001/seven-reasons-why-google-is-making-mistake-filtering-searches-based-dmca-notices.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:33:35 PDT</pubDate>
<title>'Don't Get SOPA'd' Is The New Mantra On Capitol Hill</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120309/13371418054/dont-get-sopad-is-new-mantra-capitol-hill.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ As we noted when one of the recent cybersecurity bills was introduced in the Senate, it was accompanied by a press release that explicitly stated that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120214/15002817761/cybersecurity-bill-backers-insist-this-isnt-sopa-is-it-needed.shtml">this bill wasn't SOPA</a>.  While the entertainment industry keeps hoping that the anti-SOPA protests were <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120305/10142117983/riaa-still-doesnt-get-it-hopes-sopa-opposition-was-one-time-experience.shtml">a one-time experience</a>, apparently the power of internet users is very much on the minds of nearly everyone on Capitol Hill who have turned the phrase <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73802.html" target="_blank">"don't get SOPA'd" into a new mantra</a>.
<br /><br />
This is excellent news in a number of ways.  Congress <i>should</i> fear backlash from going against the will of the people, especially in mucking around with some of the key tools they use to communicate every day.  The only issue I take with the article is that it rehashes the false dichotomy that SOPA was "Silicon Valley vs. Hollywood," and quotes lots of people who continue to talk about how the way to avoid "getting SOPA'd" is to talk to the tech industry, but not to internet users themselves.  Now, I think that talking to the tech industry is a good place to <i>start</i>, and it is an important stakeholder in understanding the internet, but what drove the SOPA protests was the users.  Yes, tech companies helped get their users interested in the topic, but once the users on Tumblr, Reddit and Wikipedia took over, they were the ones driving the bus.  The companies themselves took a backseat and, at times, were pressured into going along with what the users wanted, against their own concerns (for example, the date of the January 18th protests, which many "industry insiders" thought was too early, since the Senate wasn't yet in session).
<br /><br />
So, while quotes like this are great to see:
<blockquote><i>
&#8220;Nobody wants another SOPA moment,&#8221; Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), a vocal critic of SOPA, told POLITICO. &#8220;The nerds are more powerful than anyone thought, and the tech industry flexed its muscle like never before.&#8221;
<br /><br />
Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) said the anti-SOPA movement showed a certain &#8220;coming of political age&#8221; for the tech industry, and his colleagues in the House are treading carefully.
<br /><br />
&#8220;They&#8217;re involving the tech community more and are more interested in listening,&#8221; said Polis, who also opposed SOPA. &#8220;They&#8217;re paying closer attention now.&#8221;
</i></blockquote>
I think even those two strong allies in the fight against SOPA are missing the mark somewhat.  It's not the tech industry that people need to be paying such close attention to.  It's the internet users themselves.  Ignoring that and just trying to court deals with the companies is a strategy that's likely to backfire.
<br /><br />
At the end, the article acknowledges this in a rather backhanded way -- merely using it to suggest that the tech industry really isn't so powerful and that politicians shouldn't worry about another SOPA:
<blockquote><i>
&#8220;The rational observers realize there&#8217;s a significant overestimation of high tech&#8217;s ability to control the netroots,&#8221; said one industry lobbyist.
<br /><br />
Another lobbyist said it&#8217;s &#8220;nearly impossible&#8221; to get the tech community to engage on policy issues, especially complicated measures that are highly technical, such as cybersecurity, or dry, such as online taxes.
<br /><br />
&#8220;SOPA was an inflection point and people on the Hill are certainly going to take more notice next time around,&#8221; the lobbyist said. &#8220;But one incident like that isn&#8217;t going to be the huge game changer.&#8221;
</i></blockquote>
But notice what's totally ignored here.  That the "netroots" -- the internet users who stood up and spoke out by the millions -- still are engaged and aware.  The lobbyist is correct that the tech industry can't control the netroots.  But that doesn't mean there's nothing to fear concerning another SOPA, it means that politicians need to <i>be open and engaging with the netroots</i>, not just the tech industry.
<br /><br />
And this article suggests that folks on Capitol Hill still might not understand that... which is why it actually may be more likely that we'll see another SOPA moment.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120309/13371418054/dont-get-sopad-is-new-mantra-capitol-hill.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120309/13371418054/dont-get-sopad-is-new-mantra-capitol-hill.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120309/13371418054/dont-get-sopad-is-new-mantra-capitol-hill.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:24:09 PST</pubDate>
<title>American Airlines Making Life Worse For Most Loyal Customers By Killing Useful Mile-Tracking Browser Plugin</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120301/01411217919/american-airlines-making-life-worse-most-loyal-customers-killing-useful-mile-tracking-browser-plugin.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It's still really amazing to me how often we hear about companies making their own customers' lives <i>worse off</i> in an obsessive need for excess <i>control</i>.  The latest such example comes via Rob Hyndman, who points us to the news that American Airlines has <a href="http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2012/02/25/american-squashes-award-wallet-again-browser-plugin-no-longer-available-to-track-miles/" target="_blank">forced Award Wallet to stop providing a useful tool</a> for American fliers trying to keep track of their frequent flyer mileage.  American had cut off a bunch of web-based services in the past that would log into American's site for you and provide a different view and other useful tools.  In that case, the airline argued -- perhaps reasonably -- that it was concerned about security of a third party logging into the site and having access to your account/password.  There are ways that American could deal with those security concerns, but at least that argument made some sense.  In response, however, Award Wallet built a <i>browser plugin</i> that never involved data going to any third party.  Basically everything stayed local.  All it did was give users a <i>better</i> way to view the information (and was apparently especially handy for families).
<br /><br />
And American Airlines didn't like it.
<br /><br />
It couldn't use the "security" argument this time, because everything was local.  But, actually, it tried to use that same argument anyway, <a href="http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2012/02/25/american-squashes-award-wallet-again-browser-plugin-no-longer-available-to-track-miles/" target="_blank">responding to a question from BoardingArea</a>, saying that it shut down Award Wallet to maintain the company's...
<blockquote><i>
...&#8230;long-held stance on how third-party websites access proprietary AAdvantage member details&#8230; Because travelers&#8217; AAdvantage account numbers and passwords can be used to claim AAdvantage mileage awards out of their accounts and access personal details, American will always protect this information.
<br /><br />
We simply cannot permit websites that have not satisfied our security requirements the access needed to track AAdvantage balances or any other function that is otherwise secured behind AA.com login credentials.
</i></blockquote>
But that falsely assumes that the browser plugin is a "website."  It's possible that American is just confused... but the more likely situation is that American Airlines is still just worried about <i>controlling</i> the customer, rather than making sure they have the best experience for them.  What services like Award Wallet do is make American's frequent flyer program <i>more valuable</i> to consumers, but apparently American doesn't want that if it means having less control.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120301/01411217919/american-airlines-making-life-worse-most-loyal-customers-killing-useful-mile-tracking-browser-plugin.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120301/01411217919/american-airlines-making-life-worse-most-loyal-customers-killing-useful-mile-tracking-browser-plugin.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120301/01411217919/american-airlines-making-life-worse-most-loyal-customers-killing-useful-mile-tracking-browser-plugin.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:22:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Shouldn't Users Have Been At The Table For The Six Strikes Negotiations?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110719/04260815164/shouldnt-users-have-been-table-six-strikes-negotiations.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've already <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/10173014998/major-us-isps-agree-to-five-strikes-plan-rather-than-three.shtml">discussed</a> the "voluntary" agreement between ISPs and the RIAA/MPAA to create a "six strikes" (I still say the details show it's five strikes, but the internet has overruled me) graduated response plan.  In particular, we've noted that the plan appears to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110711/01434715038/isps-five-strikes-plan-railroading-mpaariaa-style.shtml">limit defenses</a> of users in ways that strike us as questionable (i.e., you can't even claim a work is in the public domain!).  Now law professor Eric Goldman and the EFF's Corynne McSherry have put together an analysis of the agreement which highlights <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2011/07/the_graduated_r.htm" target="_blank">how unfortunate it is that this agreement was made completely without anyone representing <i>actual users</i></a>.  It was just big companies, working together to effectively screw over users.  The writeup by Goldman and McSherry highlights numerous problems with the agreement when it comes to users (including the fairly bogus "education" component of this project).  But where it really shines is in showing just a few examples of where such an agreement could have been much better if there had been someone (anyone!) representing the interest of the users:
<blockquote><i>
<p>* <b>The burden should be on the content owners to establish infringement, not on the subscribers to disprove infringement.</b> The Internet access providers will treat the content owners&rsquo; notices of infringement as presumptively accurate--obligating subscribers to defend against the accusations, and in several places requiring subscribers to produce evidence &ldquo;credibly demonstrating&rdquo; their innocence.  This burden-shift violates our traditional procedural due process norms and is based on the presumed reliability of infringement-detection systems that subscribers haven't vetted and to which they cannot object.  (The content owners&rsquo; systems will be reviewed by &ldquo;impartial technical experts,&rdquo; but the experts&rsquo; work will be confidential).  Without subscribers being able to satisfy themselves that the notification systems are so reliable that they warrant a burden-shift, content owners should have to prove the merits of their complaints before internet access providers take any punitive action against subscribers.</p>

<p>* <b>Subscribers should be able to assert the full range of defenses to copyright infringement.</b>  A subscriber who protests an infringement notice may assert only six pre-defined defenses, even though there are many other possible defenses available in a copyright litigation.  And even the six enumerated defenses are incomplete.  For example, the &ldquo;public domain&rdquo; defense applies only if the work was created before 1923--even though works created after 1923 can enter the public domain in a variety of ways. </p>

<p>* <b>Content owners should be accountable if they submit incorrect infringement notices.</b> A subscriber who successfully challenges an infringement notice gets a refund of the $35 review fee, but the MOU doesn&rsquo;t spell out any adverse consequences for the content owner that make the mistake &ndash; or even making repeated mistakes. Content owners should be on the hook if they overclaim copyright infringement. </p>

<p>* <b>Subscribers should have adequate time to prepare a defense.</b>  The MOU gives subscribers only 10 business days to challenge a notice or their challenge rights are waived (a subscriber might get an extra 10 business days "for substantial good cause").  This period isn&rsquo;t enough time for most subscribers to research and write a proper defense.  Subscribers should get adequate time to defend themselves.</p>

<p>* <b>There should be adequate assurances that the reviewers are neutral.</b> The MOU requires that reviewers must be lawyers and specifies that the CCI will train the reviews in &ldquo;prevailing legal principles&rdquo; of copyright law &ndash; an odd standard given the complexity of, and jurisdictional differences in, copyright law.  We&rsquo;re especially interested in the identity of these lawyers, and why they are willing to review cases for less than $35 each (assuming the CCI keeps some of the $35 review fee for itself).  Perhaps there will be a ready supply of lawyer-reviewers who are truly independent.  Given the low financial incentives, another possibility is that the reviewers will be lawyers tied&mdash;financially or ideologically&mdash;to the content owner community.  To ensure that the reviewers remain truly neutral, reviewer resumes should be made public, and checks-and-balances should be built into the reviewer selection process to ensure that the deck isn&rsquo;t stacked against subscribers from day 1.</p>
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The chances of any of that actually happening?  Yeah, basically none.
<br /><br />
It's on this point that IP Czar Victoria Espinel should really be ashamed.  After talking up how this agreement would help someone (not clear who?) <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/07/07/working-together-stop-internet-piracy" target="_blank">"win the future,"</a> shouldn't she have been the least bit concerned about the most obvious stakeholder who wasn't at the table?  We see this way too often with government officials these days.  They think the only stakeholders are the businesses, and leave out <i>the citizens they're supposed to represent</i>.  Copyright law is supposed to benefit the public, but the public wasn't at the table negotiating this agreement.  In fact, pretty much everyone admits that the government focused solely on bringing together these two parties and putting tremendous pressure on the ISPs to cave to the entertainment industry.  Couldn't they have used some of that "pressure" to make sure that the public's interest was included?  Isn't that what government is <i>supposed</i> to do?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110719/04260815164/shouldnt-users-have-been-table-six-strikes-negotiations.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110719/04260815164/shouldnt-users-have-been-table-six-strikes-negotiations.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110719/04260815164/shouldnt-users-have-been-table-six-strikes-negotiations.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:24:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Expectations Matter, Even If You're Not 'A Customer'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/03371711089/expectations-matter-even-if-you-re-not-a-customer.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently had a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100920/11350411082/scribd-puts-user-docs-behind-a-paywall-without-them-realizing-it.shtml" target="_blank">discussion</a> about law professor Eric Goldman's <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/personal/archives/2010/09/scribd_puts_my.html" target="_blank">complaints</a> about Scribd, after the site, which he'd been using regularly to upload and share legal documents, quietly put up a paywall on older documents without making that clear to users.  Suddenly, many old documents that Goldman had thought he was sharing with the world, were hidden behind a lock and key, unless you paid up.
<br /><br />
While many people agreed that this was a mistake on the part of Scribd, in talking with Goldman separately about this, he noted that a few people strongly disagreed with his position, and noted (accurately) that he was getting a free service from Scribd, and thus he was "not a customer" and shouldn't complain at all.  We received a few <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100920/11350411082/scribd-puts-user-docs-behind-a-paywall-without-them-realizing-it.shtml#c63" target="_blank">similar comments here</a>, effectively suggesting that if you're not paying, you're not a customer and, thus, have no right to complain.
<br /><br />
This is silly -- and wrong.  It's where the often artificial distinction between "customer" and "user" and "product" gets blurry and, at times, questionable, especially in the realm of "user-generated" content.  There are more ways to "pay" than with money.  In Goldman's case, he's actually been "paying" Scribd by providing it with valuable, sought-after content that he uploads.  Scribd is "paying" Goldman with free hosting, bandwidth and services.  Advertisers are "paying" Scribd with money.  Users are "paying" Scribd with their attention.  All are "customers" in some sense, while also being users and, potentially, "the product," as well.  Focusing only on the relationships where actual cash exchanges hands misses the point (greatly).
<br /><br />
Once you realize that, it makes perfect sense for Goldman to complain.  He was using the service under pretty explicit terms that he was providing these documents to share them with the world.  Scribd unilaterally (and quietly) changed those terms on him, to something completely different.  In turn, by pissing off Goldman, and having him seek alternatives, Scribd is actually harming its overall site.  Even if you accept the narrow definition of "customer," to suggest that Scribd's only customers are their advertisers, pissing off Goldman should still be seen as a problem, because as Goldman uses alternative services, it lessens the "product" that Scribd can offer to those particular "customers."
<br /><br />
So rather than going with the kneejerk, "well, if he's not paying for it, he has nothing to complain about," it's important to look at the overall ecosystem, and how different pieces are "paid" in different ways -- and how upsetting one key element of that ecosystem, can harm all sorts of "customers."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/03371711089/expectations-matter-even-if-you-re-not-a-customer.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/03371711089/expectations-matter-even-if-you-re-not-a-customer.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/03371711089/expectations-matter-even-if-you-re-not-a-customer.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:15:03 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Blaming Users When You Screw Up</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/0132469821.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We're always amazed when we see companies blame their users for their own screwups.  The latest company to do this, as reported on TechCrunch, is Zynga, who gave out some codes to certain users for $120 worth of in-game currency in one of its games if those users moved off of one social networking platform to another.  However, Zynga didn't take the most basic technical precautions to stop anyone and everyone from using the codes.  So, of course, anyone and everyone started using the codes.  These things happen and even though it's embarrassing, the company can just turn off the code and get on with life.  Instead, it not only rolled back user accounts, deleting lots of things many had done, but also <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/zynga-goes-to-the-mattresses-with-mafia-wars-users/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A Techcrunch (TechCrunch)&#038;utm_content=Google Reader" target="_blank">tried to blame them for "exploiting" their system</a>:
<blockquote><i>
Attention:
<br /><br />
Our records indicate you have redeemed Rewards Points using an exploit. Please note that future use of exploits may result in disciplinary actions, up to and including the permanent banning of your account.
<br /><br />
We will keep your account active at this point, but have rolled back your account to 06/08/2010, the date prior to the redemption of these unauthorized Reward Points. 
</i></blockquote>
It wasn't an <i>exploit</i>, it was poor programming on the part of Zynga.  With a company like Zynga that has so many users, I'm sure it doesn't really care that some are quite pissed off, but at some point, the company may realize that cavalierly blaming users for their own mistakes can come back to haunt them in a big way.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/0132469821.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/0132469821.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/0132469821.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:50:47 PST</pubDate>
<title>So Is Verizon Cutting Users Off Or Not?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100122/0419467870.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, well, well.  A few days ago, News.com had a story that got a lot of attention saying that Verizon was <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10437176-93.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1" target="_blank">kicking users off of its service</a> after it had received accusations of file sharing.  At the time, we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100120/1225577837.shtml">wondered</a> if this was a misstatement by a Verizon spokesperson, and in an update, Verizon insisted that News.com had misquoted its spokesperson, and it <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Is-NOT-Booting-P2P-Users-Off-Of-Network-106529?nocomment=1" target="_blank"><i>had not</i> kicked anyone off</a>.  And yet, lots of folks are still reporting that Verizon is kicking users off for file sharing.  And, now, News.com has come back and <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-10439144-261.html?tag=newsLatestHeadlinesArea.0" target="_blank">stands by its original story</a>.
<br /><br />
Reading through the details, what it <i>appears</i> to have happened was that a Verizon person misspoke, and News.com accurately reported the misstatement (suggesting that users had been kicked off).  Verizon is still claiming it "reserves the right" to kick users off, but has not actually done so.  Hopefully it realizes that doing so based solely on accusation is a huge mistake and one over which it would almost certainly face serious backlash.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100122/0419467870.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100122/0419467870.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100122/0419467870.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:45:20 PST</pubDate>
<title>French Courts Continue To Penalize eBay For Actions Of Users</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0659567129.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While more and more courts seem to be understanding that eBay shouldn't be responsible for what users are selling on its site, it appears that French courts are a bit confused.  Last year, a French court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080630/1127401554.shtml">fined eBay $63 million</a> because counterfeit LVMH products were being sold on the site.  Of course, eBay has no way of knowing what's legit and what's not, but the French court didn't seem to care.  A similar case, also involving LVMH, but concerning Google ads, was also ruled in LVMH's favor, but it was appealed to the European Court of Justice, and a judge there has already indicated that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090922/1352546283.shtml">it makes little sense</a> to blame the company.  But that isn't stopping the French courts.  eBay has now <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8386390.stm" target="_blank">been fined yet again</a>, because of a French ban on selling <i>even legally purchased</i> brands of LVMH perfumes if you're not an authorized distributor.  eBay is appealing the ruling, saying that banning the resale of legally purchased goods doesn't make sense and harms consumers.  However, a much bigger question is why eBay should be liable at all.  It's not eBay doing the selling, but users on the site.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0659567129.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0659567129.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0659567129.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:49:09 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Amie Street Also Takes Away Features... But At Least Is Honest And Upfront About How They Hate Having To</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090731/0311565725.shtml</link>
<guid>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090731/0311565725.shtml</guid>
<description><![CDATA[ We've covered how eMusic (which had a <i>fantastic</i> reputation for a while) totally <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090629/1113025402.shtml">failed</a> in communicating changes to its service, which involved increasing prices and taking away many valued features.  The company tried to bury that news along with the fact that Sony Music would now be included, not recognizing that many of its users didn't care, and were pissed off at the way eMusic presented this as a good thing.  At least some others may be learning.  <a href="http://www.CardPlayer.com/">Ragaboo</a> alerts us that online music site Amie Street is also removing some features (such as the ability to redownload tracks -- just like eMusic has done), but did so by admitting that it sucked and apologizing, but basically saying its hands were tied.  They also gave advance warning of the changes.  While Ragaboo isn't thrilled about he, notes that he appreciated the honesty from the company.  Here's the email that he received:
<blockquote><i>
"In several weeks we're going to be making a change to how Amie Street handles downloads, and we want to be certain you are fully informed in advance about this change. In brief, starting on August 5th we'll only be able to offer a single download of your purchased music unless you've encountered a technical problem.<br />
<br />
Although most people only download their music one time, we've noticed that you have done so more than once on occasion. We realize that the ability to re-download files has been important to you, so it's understandable that you might be disappointed to see this no longer available. Unfortunately a number of factors beyond our control, including legal and royalty concerns, have made this impossible going forward.<br />
<br />
We're very happy to say, however, that you can continue to stream all of the music you've purchased on Amie Street. That means wherever you have access to the internet, you also have immediate and unrestricted access to stream the entirety of your Amie Street music collection from your Library.<br />
<br />
To make sure that downloading music continues to be as easy as possible, we'll be keeping a close eye on the user experience and making updates to the site as needed. The primary voice that directs any such changes will be yours, so if you have suggestions based on your experiences using the site, we'd love to hear from you. Tell us exactly what you like and don't like, and we can make Amie Street even better!<br />
<br />
Peace,<br />
<br />
The Amie Street Team"&quot;</i>
</blockquote>
Of course, the fact that both Amie Street and eMusic have removed the ability to redownload tracks over royalty issues makes you wonder what exactly is the issue here.  Are record labels really demanding a royalty payment every time people redownload a song?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090731/0311565725.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090731/0311565725.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090731/0311565725.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:59:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Examining Fact And (Gov't Crafted) Fiction On The Number Of Chinese Web Surfers</title>
<dc:creator>Ian Bell</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090723/0325045631.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Statistics lauding the growth of the Internet in China have become so commonplace as to inspire yawns, despite breathless press reports of hundreds of millions of Chinese going online and signing up for the 'net.  With the Chinese Government declaring that their internet population <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7827765.stm">surpassed</a> the US last year, it would seem that the real opportunity for expansion and growth online is not in the West, but somewhere behind the Great Firewall of China. Cue the ads for Chinese Web Hosting, Chinese Industry Liaisons, and the omnipresent legions of Chinese business agents.

<p>Many Western technology companies have heeded that call, but have found themselves cast onto the rocks of Chinese shores including companies like Microsoft, Google, Cisco, eBay, and Yahoo!  The massive markets just never seem to have materialized in the Orient for these giants, or when success has loomed on the horizon the murky Chinese bureaucracy has stepped in to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  Partnerships have vaporized overnight, and (<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/24/cisco_sues_huawei_over_ip/">particularly in the case of Cisco</a>) core Intellectual Property has been outright stolen, reverse-engineered, or redistributed.  Perilous waters, indeed.<span id="more-4887"></span></p>

<p>So it was with this skepticism that my friend <a href="http://www.meharg.com">Gersham</a> viewed the latest piece of propaganda emerging from our friends in China that we have now reached the new height of <a href="http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/19886/">338 million</a> Chinese Internet users; a 13 percent increase since the end of 2008, and just about exactly one quarter of the country's population.  All of this, of course, seems to have been tabulated and distributed by the slightly inaccurately-acronymed Chinese Internet Network Information Centre (<a href="http://www.cnnic.cn/en/index/">CNNIC</a>) which, by its own admission,<span>takes orders from the Ministry of Information Industry (MII) to conduct daily business.  In fact, google <a href="http://www.google.ca/search?q=chinese+internet+traffic">Chinese Internet Traffic</a> and you'd be hard-pressed to find data that did NOT originate from the CNNIC.  Hmm.  Call me a cynic.</span></p>

<p><span><center><a href="http://www.ianbell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/gdp-per-capita-east-asia.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4889 aligncenter" title="gdp-per-capita-east-asia" src="http://www.ianbell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/gdp-per-capita-east-asia-300x300.jpg" alt="gdp-per-capita-east-asia" width="300" height="300" /></a></center></span>
<br />
It is likely difficult for most (any) of us to corroborate or even conceptualize these high numbers, but it seems suspicious nonetheless, particularly from a country whose <a href="http://www.visualizingeconomics.com/2008/01/27/income-of-united-states-japan-india-china-and-indonesia-since-1500/">median income</a> is around $3400 and whose Per-Capita GDP is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita">ranked 104th</a>, right behind Armenia.  In trying to substantiate this, once can point to Alexa's site rankings which currently reveal that 3 Chinese-language web sites rank in the Top 20:  Search Engine <a href="http://baidu.com/">Baidu</a> (#9), IM chat and portal <a href="http://www.qq.com/">QQ</a> (#14), and portal <a href="http://www.sina.com.cn/">Sina.com.cn</a> (#18).  Sounds good, right?  But look closely at the rankings.  Baidu, an undisputed leader in Search for China, reaches 5.73% of the internet populace, whereas Google.DE (#13) reaches roughly 3% of global internet users while servicing German, Swiss and Austrian users exclusively.  Combine the populations of these three countries and they don't even add up to 100 million people.</p>

<p>Gersham pointed me toward the <a href="http://downloadstats.mozilla.com/">Firefox Download Stats</a>, where, as of this writing, Germans have made 4,948,666 downloads of various Firefox versions compared to only 672,972 for China.  Again, Germany has a population of 82Million vs. 1.3Billion in China.  As a control, Americans have downloaded Firefox 7,959,727 times as of this writing.  Do the Chinese really just prefer Internet Explorer?</p>

<p>In January 2009, Comscore measured the Chinese internet audience at closer to <a href="http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2009/1/Global_Internet_Audience_1_Billion">180 Million</a> users, still an impressive 18% of the Internet population.   <a href="http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats3.htm#asia">This site</a> quotes murky Nielsen Online data pegging Chinese Internet Users at roughly 300 Million.  Beyond these hearsay reports, empirical measurements are difficult to come by.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s throw up our hands and try to reverse-engineer the data using published stats.  According to <a href="http://www.searchnewz.com/latestsearch/senews/sn-4-20090721June2009comScoreSearchEngineRankings.html">June 2009 data</a> from Comscore, Google has captured 65% or so of US Search Traffic.  This made it the #1 web site in the world, with 157 Million US Visitors in June, <a href="http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200907211746dowjonesdjonline000690&#038;title=google-remains-most-visited-web-site-in-june--comscore">according to Comscore</a>.  In the Chinese Market, Baidu <a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/3634488">has captured</a> 73% of Chinese search, with Google in the Number Two spot.  Yet Baidu.com barely moves the needle by comparison, according to <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/baidu.com+google.com/">compete.com</a>, <a href="http://alexa.com/siteinfo/google.com+baidu.com">alexa.com</a>, and others, hitting roughly 600,000 unique visitors per month globally.   High-side estimates of the Internet's <a href="http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/us.htm">penetration in the US</a> peg it at 72.5% of the populace, or about 220 million.  This makes the data on Google's penetration vs the addressable market reasonably accurate (71% if you do the math).  Following this logic, if Baidu in fact has 73% of China's purported 338 Million users, it should be ranking as the #1 web site by far, with 246 Million unique visitors per month.  In fact if any of this data were true, then Chinese sites should occupy at least 4 of the Top Ten global web sites.</p>

<p>Whatever your opinion of Compete's and Alexa's relative methodologies, it's impossible to reconcile anything even close to the numbers coming from the Chinese Government.  If that isn't good enough for you, let's turn to profits.  While serving what was allegedly the world's largest internet audience, Baidu appears to be tracking to earn about $500 Million in <a href="http://www.prnewswireasia.com/pr/09/04/09247311-1.html">revenue</a> this year.  Google's revenue <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10148339-93.html">appears to be tracking</a> to about $23 Billion for 2009 with its pithy 157 Million unique visitors.  Any way you slice it, if China's internet userbase is as large as Beijing says it is, and if Baidu's market share of that audience is what it's widely purported to be, then both the number of uniques reported by external traffic sites and the revenues reported by the public company that owns Baidu should be exponentially greater.</p>

<p>These stats seem to either indicate that Chinese do not use search very often, or that there just aren't too many of them heading out into the wilds of the Internet.  Either way, statistics emanating exclusively from bureaucratic sources within Beijing, particularly those which seem to fly in the face of all other external metrics, are not to be believed.  The thesis of this post is not to suggest that China is NOT a massive opportunity for online properties and other technology purveyors, it is simply an attempt to point out that, like in a lot of cases in dealing with the People's Republic of China, things are not what they may seem.  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.</p>
<i>Cross-posted from <a href="http://www.ianbell.com/2009/07/22/the-open-debate-on-chinese-internet-proliferation/" target="_new">IanBell.com</a>.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090723/0325045631.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090723/0325045631.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090723/0325045631.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:24:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>L'Oreal Keeps Trying: Appeals French Ruling Against eBay</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090628/1658455390.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It appears that L'Oreal just refuses to give up.  The company has sued eBay in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090309/1359574045.shtml">a bunch of different countries</a> trying to get a court somewhere to admit that eBay is somehow liable for actions of its users.  To date, it's been a clean shutout against L'Oreal, who has lost cases in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080813/1209031965.shtml">Belgium</a>, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090523/0020384988.shtml">the UK</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090513/1231204874.shtml">France</a> (I believe cases are still pending in Germany and Spain, though it's hard to keep up).  The ruling in France was the biggest surprise, given that French courts have ruled <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080630/1127401554.shtml">the other way</a> in the past.  Given that, it looks like L'Oreal isn't done yet on its home turf, as it's <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/24/loreal_appeals_ebay/" target="_new">appealing the ruling in France</a>.  At some point, one would hope that L'Oreal would realize that going after eBay is targeting the wrong party, but it appears that no one at L'Oreal seems all that interested in actually understanding the issues, and wants to see how many shots it can get at making eBay pay up.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090628/1658455390.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090628/1658455390.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090628/1658455390.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:54:47 PDT</pubDate>
<title>If You're Taking Away Features From Users, Don't Tell Them It's For Their Own Benefit</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090629/1113025402.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Sometimes, I really wonder if companies think their users are stupid.  There are times when they treat them that way.  My favorite examples are when companies are taking away features or raising prices, and claiming (somehow) that it's for the benefit of those customers/users.  For example, when eMusic <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090602/2250355103.shtml">raised prices</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090624/0216435344.shtml">disabled features</a> it put up a blog post trying to spin it as a positive, claiming <a href="http://17dots.com/2009/05/31/more-of-the-good-stuff/" target="_new">"more of the good stuff!"</a>  Yes, at a higher price, with fewer features, but why let that get in the way of claiming good news?
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The latest example is online music streaming site imeem.  The company has struggled of late under absolutely draconian terms forced on it by the record labels.  Rumors held that the company came close to going out of business until Warner Music agreed to renegotiate its suffocating deal.  Still, there are many who question how the company can survive without a drastic change in business models.  But, taking away features from customers with little warning and pretending it's a good thing isn't exactly the best way to go about things.  <a href="http://twitter.com/cshirky/status/2348992497">Clay Shirky</a> points us to the news that <a href="http://blog.imeem.com/2009/06/25/simplifying-imeem/" target="_new">imeem is removing features for users to upload videos or pictures</a> without even offering a "download to save" option.  But, even worse, the blog post announcing the change tries to play this up as good news again, saying that it's all about "simplifying imeem" as part of an effort to enhance the site.
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Sure, simplifying a site can be a good thing -- but unilaterally removing features that people use, with little warning, isn't really simplifying.  You can simplify without removing features.  If you have to remove features, for whatever reason, why not at least admit the truth: it's not for consumer's benefit, but for some other reason, and you <i>realize</i> it sucks for many users.
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In other words, sound human, rather acting like your users are morons.  If you want to see a company that's actually done a <i>good</i> job of this, look at Hulu.  While we think it's ridiculous that the company caved in to content providers and tried (and failed) to block a specific browser (Boxee) from viewing its content, at least Hulu's CEO was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090218/1627113821.shtml">upfront and honest</a> about the fact that it sucked:
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The maddening part of writing this blog entry is that we realize that there is no immediate win here for users. Please know that we take very seriously our role of representing users such that we are able to provide more and more content in more and more ways over time. We embrace this activity in ways that respect content owners' -- and even the entire industry's -- challenges to create great content that users love. Yes, it's a complex matter. A tough mission, and a never-ending one, but one we are passionately committed to.
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For those Boxee users reading this post, we understand and appreciate that you're likely to tell us that we're nuts. Please know that we do share the same interests and won't stop innovating in support of the bigger mission. 
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eMusic, imeem and others would be wise to take note.  Taking features away and pretending your customers are stupid enough to believe it's for their benefit isn't likely to fly.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090629/1113025402.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090629/1113025402.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090629/1113025402.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:40:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>eMusic Also Took Away Right To Download Songs Already Purchased</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In all the fuss over eMusic's poorly managed plan to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090602/2250355103.shtml">sign Sony Music and raise prices</a> at the same time, the company apparently also was able to sneak through another anti-customer move.  For years, as an eMusic customer, you were able to go back and access songs you'd previously downloaded.  This is, for obvious reasons, a very useful feature -- especially considering the fact that people change computers or lose hard drives and such.  However, apparently, along with the price increase, eMusic has quietly dropped this feature as well.  It's not clear why they would do this.  Perhaps Sony didn't want this, but that doesn't explain why the feature was removed for everyone.  It's like eMusic is punishing their loyal customers.  The company claims that it will allow people to redownload if there's a technical problem, but the convenience feature is just gone.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090624/0216435344.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090624/0216435344.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090624/0216435344.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:21:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Just Because You Offer A Free Service, It Doesn't Mean Your Users Aren't Customers</title>
<dc:creator>Carlo Longino</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The world of Twitter got its collective knickers in a twist earlier this week when the company <a href="http://blog.twitter.com/2009/05/small-settings-update.html">made a change</a> to the settings of its service. The particular change was pretty small, but seemed to disproportionately effect "power users" and early adopters, so, of course, the uproar over it was pretty intense, and Twitter <a href="http://blog.twitter.com/2009/05/we-learned-lot.html">changed the change</a>. The details of the change aren't all that important, but like with the response to Facebook's recent <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090217/1144233799.shtml">TOS change</a>, it's dragged out some rather interesting opinions. A personal favorite of mine is the response to the backlash that <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10239527-16.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-20">since users aren't paying anything for these services, they have no right to complain</a>. Apparently users should "pay up" so they have the right "to voice [their] displeasure as a customer rather than as a user" -- and this coming from a guy who writes a blog about open-source software. It's one thing for a business to ignore complaints that don't come from customers or potential customers, but in the case of free services, to imply that users' opinions don't count because they're not ponying up any cash is fairly ridiculous. Most free services rely on their users to create revenue in other ways, such as by providing traffic to monetize; alienation of users that results in a downturn in traffic, and in turn, ad revenue, has exactly the same effect as losing paying customers' repeat business. The distinction between "customer" and "user" is, in many cases, becoming increasingly irrelevant. And never mind that in many instances, such as with Twitter and Facebook, it's impossible for users to become paying customers. It's hard to imagine that either company thinks it's okay to ignore its users simply because they don't pay.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090513/1016154870.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090513/1016154870.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090513/1016154870.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:50:06 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Google Doesn't Want To Disclose Korean YouTube Uploaders; Turns Feature Off Instead</title>
<dc:creator>Carlo Longino</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Some new internet regulations recently went into effect in South Korea, forcing sites with more than 100,000 users per day to confirm users' personal information before they upload content or leave comments, so they can ensure people post content under their real names. The cutoff was lowered from sites with 300,000 daily users, and the new, lower bar caught YouTube Korea. But instead of complying with the system, Google has instead <a href="http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/349076.html">disabled uploading and comments on its Korean site</a> (via <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-google-limits-youtube-korea-uploads-to-get-around-new-regulation/">PaidContent</a>). Google's stance on censorship of its search results <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060124/1843232_F.shtml">in China</a> garnered it a lot of bad press; the fact that YouTube Korea lags behind other local video sites in popularity probably made this latest decision a bit easier. Apparently, though, people can easily get around the ban by using versions of YouTube aimed at other countries -- highlighting the frivolity of these sorts of laws given the global nature of the internet. Unless countries want to go as far as setting up Great Firewalls of their own, users will easily circumvent the rules, should they so desire.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090413/0727414478.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090413/0727414478.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090413/0727414478.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:43:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>AT&#038;T Says It Will Cut Off P2P Wireless Users; But What About Pandora Users?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While those who like to claim that the US broadband market is more competitive than it really is like to point to the rise of 3G wireless networks as proof, they almost always ignore the fact that those 3G networks come with insanely <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20051017/234213_F.shtml">restrictive</a> terms of service, that allow the providers to cut users off for almost any activity outside of email or web browsing.  For example, using such a service for video and music has been prohibited in some terms of service.  Sprint was the most open with their 3G wireless until <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080519/2329211175.shtml">recently</a>.
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Now AT&#038;T is admitting that if it discovers users of its wireless broadband 3G service are making use of P2P apps, <a href="http://www.ipdemocracy.com/archives/003035att_will_disconnect_wireless_p2p_users.php" target="_new">it will cut them off completely</a>, and claims that it makes this clear in the terms of service.  It hasn't happened yet, but this bit of data will supposedly be used by a dissenting FCC commissioner this week to show that Comcast's traffic shaping is pretty tame compared to other "rules" out there on network usage (ignoring the very different nature of the networks in question, of course).
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This raises a number of questions:  If AT&#038;T's biggest concern about P2P file sharing apps is clogging its 3G wireless network, why does it allow streaming apps to run on the iPhone?  For example, one of the most popular apps on the iPhone is Pandora, whose customized streaming radio offering is <a href="http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/agency/e3i7d21992b375a28c6af0b33909cb1ee9b">super popular</a> (and appears to work quite well).  So is AT&#038;T going to cut off users of one of the most popular apps on the iPhone? And how will AT&#038;T respond when someone (inevitably, if they haven't already done so) develops an iPhone app for P2P file sharing as well?  This really just seems like AT&#038;T slipping an excuse into the terms of service to cut off anyone they don't like -- but in the long run it may backfire as people get pissed off at AT&#038;T for limiting what new devices like the iPhone can do.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080729/0135151823.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080729/0135151823.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080729/0135151823.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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