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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:04:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>UK Officials Duel Over Social Media Personal Data</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As the UK continues to struggle with their laws and the impact on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120920/11172320450/uk-prosecutors-finally-acknowledge-need-real-discussion-about-free-speech-online.shtml">free speech</a> via social media, its citizens are receiving mixed messages from government officials. We've <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20082493">got competing ideas going on here</a>, with one side advising citizens to give social media sites false information and the other suggesting that citizens should be encouraged to do the exact opposite.
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<i>Andy Smith, an internet security chief at the Cabinet Office, said people should only give accurate details to trusted sites such as government ones. </i> <i>"When you put information on the internet do not use your real name, your real date of birth," he told a Parliament and the Internet Conference in Portcullis House, Westminster. "When you are putting information on social networking sites don't put real combinations of information, because it can be used against you."</i></blockquote>
It apparently didn't occur to Smith that internet users might also be afraid of their own governments, but it would't seem to be a controversial opinion that citizens using government sites should probably be giving accurate information. His remarks were focused on what he called "trustworthy" sites versus those users were unsure of, which makes the idea rather benign. Despite social media sites and other sites, like <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120725/09260819828/youtube-wants-you-to-comment-under-your-real-name.shtml">YouTube</a>, encouraging the use of accurate user information, one would think that inputting a fake name or fake birthday would't have much of an impact overall. In addition to perhaps providing some low-level defense against fraudsters, as is Smith's focus, anonymity is an important component of free speech.
<br /><br />
Not so fast, says MP and all-around hand-wringer, Helen Goodman. That false data used to keep away the fraudsters? It's that kind of thing that promotes criminal behavior.
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<i>His advice was described by Labour MP Helen Goodman as "totally outrageous". She told BBC News: "This is the kind of behaviour that, in the end, promotes crime. It is exactly what we don't want. We want more security online. It's anonymity which facilitates cyber-bullying, the abuse of children. I was genuinely shocked that a public official could say such a thing."</i>
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That is, to put it bluntly, ridiculous. There is a rather wide swath of false or inaccurate data on social media sites. People concerned about the aforementioned fraudsters. People concerned with data mining by the sites they're visiting. Parody social media accounts. None of that "promotes crime". And, while anonymity may embolden some folks that want to engage in bullying (let's do away with the "cyber" prefix please; bullying is bullying), are any us of really ready to say that the benefits of anonymous speech, whether online or elsewhere, should be undone for the sake of a "for-the-children" argument? This is, of course, not to say that I am unsympathetic to the plight of children being bullied. But that situation is not a catch-all rebuttal against free speech.
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In the end, it's important to divorce policy from arguments that are essentially an appeal to emotion. I'd probably consider the absolute <i>need</i> for fake data due to fraudsters a bit on the paranoid side, but an attack on anonymity that boils down to a "for the children" quote is wholly unconvincing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/09041320825/uk-officials-duel-over-social-media-personal-data.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/09041320825/uk-officials-duel-over-social-media-personal-data.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/09041320825/uk-officials-duel-over-social-media-personal-data.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:11:48 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Court Overturns $60k Verdict Against Blogger Who Told The Truth</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few years ago, we wrote about a horrifying ruling in which a blogger who was sued for libel was told he had to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110313/15333613471/dangerous-free-speech-ruling-blogger-has-to-pay-libel-case-despite-telling-truth.shtml">pay $60,000</a>, even though it was shown that what he had said was entirely truthful.  It's an oft-repeated statement that truth is an absolute defense against defamation claims, but in this case, things got weird (and troubling).  The ruling found that even though the statements were truthful, they represented "tortious interference" with employment.  The case involved a blogger named John Hoff who blogged, truthfully, about Jerry Moore's involvement in a high-profile mortgage fraud situation.  Moore had been hired by the University of Minnesota, but was apparently let go soon after Hoff's post.  It seemed absolutely ridiculous that providing truthful information about someone should ever be seen as illegal, but that seemed to be the case here.  The original ruling was a jury verdict and we had hoped that the court would set aside that verdict, but it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110902/03352815778/court-upholds-60000-ruling-against-blogger-even-though-his-statements-were-true.shtml">chose not to</a>, going against a rather large collection of case law (and common sense).
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Thankfully, Hoff appealed, and the appeals court has now <a href="http://www.volokh.com/2012/08/20/60000-verdict-for-blogging-the-truth-about-a-person-intending-to-get-him-fired-reversed/" target="_blank">reversed the original ruling</a>.  The appeals court made the point clearly and concisely:
<blockquote><i>
Because truth is an absolute defense to a claim for defamation, truth should also be a defense to a claim for tortious interference with a contract arising out of an allegedly defamatory statement.
</i></blockquote>
The court goes into much more detail over its decision to reverse and send it back to the lower court, but it all comes back to the basics.  If the content is truthful, then there's no issue:
<blockquote><i>
Moore argues that Hoff is not shielded from tort liability simply because Moore could not prove the falsity of Hoff&#8217;s statement. Rather, Moore urges us to rely instead on Hoff&#8217;s motivation for making the allegedly defamatory statements. Moore asserts that because Hoff had an ulterior motive of getting Moore fired, he can be liable for the tortious-interference claims. We disagree.
<br /><br />
When a person conveys unflattering and possibly damaging information to another person&#8217;s employer, it is unlikely that the motivation for conveying that information is borne out of affection. It is much more likely that the intent is for the employer to take responsive action -- up to and including termination -- based on the content of that information. Regardless of the motivation of the messenger, if the information conveyed is true, it is not appropriate for liability to attach. 
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It's good that the courts seem to have fixed the earlier decision, but it's still crazy that it even got this far.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120821/15433220115/court-overturns-60k-verdict-against-blogger-who-told-truth.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120821/15433220115/court-overturns-60k-verdict-against-blogger-who-told-truth.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120821/15433220115/court-overturns-60k-verdict-against-blogger-who-told-truth.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: I Would Never Tell A Lie...</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Wonder woman had a lasso that forced bad guys to tell the truth -- which always seemed a bit ridiculous. But forcing people to tell the truth is an interesting area of research, and folks have made some progress over the years. Here are just a few quick links on some projects about lying. 
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<li> <a title="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14900800" href="http://bbc.in/reQf5l">Lie detectors made out of cameras with thermal imaging and facial analysis software could be available as smartphone apps someday.</a> And an app to train you how to be a better liar will be sold immediately afterwards. [<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14900800">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/211122/20110909/magnetic-pulses-to-the-brain-make-it-impossible-to-lie.htm" href="http://bit.ly/qeuOg2">Zapping your brain with magnetic pulses could prevent you from lying (as much as you normally would).</a> In other news: tin foil hats sales are expected to grow exponentially through 2015. [<a href="http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/211122/20110909/magnetic-pulses-to-the-brain-make-it-impossible-to-lie.htm">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.damninteresting.com/the-truth-about-truth-serum/" href="http://bit.ly/rnlI69">Truth serums generally don't work and were deemed unconstitutionally coercive in the 1960s.</a> Putting terrorists' heads in a magnetic field seems a bit more friendly than waterboarding, though... [<a href="http://www.damninteresting.com/the-truth-about-truth-serum/">url</a>]</li>
<li><b>To discover more interesting articles on the human mind, <a title="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:315" href="http://bit.ly/hkDPKq">check out what's currently floating around the StumbleUpon universe.</a></b> [<a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:315">url</a>]  <a title="what's this?" href="#" class="whatsthis help_ddstumble">&nbsp;</a>
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By the way, StumbleUpon can recommend some good <a title="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/stumblethru:www.techdirt.com" href="http://bit.ly/fagV8c">Techdirt</a> articles, too.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110818/04275815580/dailydirt-i-would-never-tell-lie.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110818/04275815580/dailydirt-i-would-never-tell-lie.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110818/04275815580/dailydirt-i-would-never-tell-lie.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:14:28 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Court Upholds $60,000 Ruling Against Blogger... Even Though His Statements Were True</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ One premise that has been a key element in protecting First Amendment rights in defamation cases is the idea that "truth is an absolute defense against defamation."  You can't defame someone if you tell the truth about them.  And yet, courts have been eating away at this concept.  A few years ago, we wrote about a troubling appeals court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/0147393882.shtml">ruling</a>, that seemed to suggest that if there's "actual malice," in presenting information, even if it was truthful, there could still be a legal claim.  Earlier this year, we heard of a similar case, in which a jury <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110313/15333613471/dangerous-free-speech-ruling-blogger-has-to-pay-libel-case-despite-telling-truth.shtml">awarded a man $60,000</a> in damages after a blogger posted truthful information about him that indirectly resulted in the guy losing his job.
<br /><br />
Unfortunately, while it had the opportunity to do so, the court has <a href="http://volokh.com/2011/08/30/60000-damages-for-blogging-the-truth-about-someone-intending-to-get-the-person-fired/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A volokh%2Fmainfeed %28The Volokh Conspiracy%29" target="_blank">refused to set aside the jury's verdict</a>.  While the straight defamation claim failed, the guy, Jerry Moore, was able to get blogger John Hoff, under a claim of "tortious interference," because of the job loss.
<br /><br />
But, as Eugene Volokh explains, this seems to totally ignore a ton of caselaw and the simple fact that there's nothing illegal in wanting to get someone fired, and revealing truthful information about them in order to do so:
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<p>As I wrote in March, people are constitutionally entitled to speak the truth about others, even with the goal of trying to get them fired.  (The tort actually requires either knowledge that such a result is practically certain or a purpose of producing such a result, but I take it that here the allegation is that Hoff wanted Moore to get fired.)  The First Amendment constrains the interference with business relations tort, just as it constrains the infliction of emotional distress and other torts.  See <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7271075303659098319"><i>NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co.</i> (1982)</a>; <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3881847812428935536"><i>Blatty v. New York Times Co.</i> (Cal. 1986)</a> (speech constitutionally protected against a libel claim is also protected against an interference with business relations claim); <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13290704027587593988"><i>Paradise Hills Assocs.</i> (Cal. Ct. App. 1991)</a> (same); <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14963951551620035715"><i>Delloma v. Consolidated Coal Co.</i> (7th Cir. 1993)</a> (&ldquo;permitting recovery for tortious interference based on truthful statements would seem to raise significant First Amendment problems&rdquo;); <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9314330191954736946"><i>Jefferson Cty. Sch. Dist. No. R-1 v. Moody&rsquo;s Investor&rsquo;s Services</i> (10th Cir. 1999)</a> (holding that interference with business relations and interference with contract claims can&rsquo;t be based on expressions of opinion).  The same should apply to the closely related interference with contract tort.  See, e.g., <i>Jefferson Cty. Sch.&nbsp;Dist.</i></p><p>Perhaps because of this, the Restatement (Second) of Torts &sect; 772(a) provides that, &ldquo;One who intentionally causes a third person not to perform a contract or not to enter into a prospective contractual relation with another does not interfere improperly with the other&rsquo;s contractual relation, by giving the third person ... truthful information.&rdquo;  See also, among many other cases, <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1674399864431444440"><i>Walnut Street Assocs., Inc. v. Brokerage Concepts, Inc.</i> (Pa. Super. 2009)</a> (so holding); <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11397404183069395771"><i>Recio v. Evers</i> (Neb.  2009)</a> (likewise).  Minnesota seems to have accepted &sect; 772(a) as well, see <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13443098526001099645"><i>Glass Service Co. v. State Farm Ins. Co.</i> (Minn. Ct. App. 1995)</a>; <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2717927887853664863"><i>Fox Sports Net North, LLC v. Minnesota Twins Partnership</i> (8th Cir. 2003)</a>.  But even if Minnesota courts take the opposite view as a matter of state law, such a view would be preempted by the First Amendment.</p>
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Somewhat amazingly, it appears the court ignored both of those arguments, despite them each being raised by Hoff's lawyer in the motion to put aside the jury verdict as well as during the trial itself.  It appears that Hoff will appeal, and hopefully the appeals court will recognize what a troubling ruling it is when you can get in legal hot water for actually telling the truth about someone.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110902/03352815778/court-upholds-60000-ruling-against-blogger-even-though-his-statements-were-true.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110902/03352815778/court-upholds-60000-ruling-against-blogger-even-though-his-statements-were-true.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110902/03352815778/court-upholds-60000-ruling-against-blogger-even-though-his-statements-were-true.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:47:01 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Dangerous Free Speech Ruling: Blogger Has To Pay In Libel Case... Despite Telling The Truth</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In a ruling that almost certainly will get overturned, a blogger who was sued for libel, and showed that he had spoken truthfully, <a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/117805398.html" target="_blank">was still ordered to pay $60,000</a>, in a highly questionable ruling that routed around basic defamation law by claiming the amount ($35,000 for lost wages and $25,000 for "emotional distress") was due to "tortious interference" with employment.  The case involved a blogger named John Hoff, who wrote a scathing blog post about Jerry Moore who was apparently involved in a high-profile mortgage fraud.  That blog post generated attention and complaints to the University of Minnesota, who had recently hired Moore.  The University fired Moore the next day.  The lawsuit tried a few claims to get around various protections, including claiming that Hoff was liable for comments made by users by creating a "defamation zone."  Thankfully, the court didn't buy into that (a ruling that never would have survived a Section 230 challenge), but apparently did buy into this crazy tortious interference claim.  If telling the truth about someone gets them fired, then the issue should <i>never</i> be about the person who told the truth, but the person who <i>did</i> whatever they did to make the truth about them a fireable offense.  There's an expectation that Hoff will appeal, and many believe this will be overturned on First Amendment grounds.  That seems likely, but it's still a huge process, and in the meantime, this awful ruling stands.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110313/15333613471/dangerous-free-speech-ruling-blogger-has-to-pay-libel-case-despite-telling-truth.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110313/15333613471/dangerous-free-speech-ruling-blogger-has-to-pay-libel-case-despite-telling-truth.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110313/15333613471/dangerous-free-speech-ruling-blogger-has-to-pay-libel-case-despite-telling-truth.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:17:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>If FreeCreditReport.com Doesn't Even Offer A Free Credit Report... Is That Truth In Advertising?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It's no secret that FreeCreditReport.com, a site owned by Experian, has always been somewhat misleading in its marketing (okay, very  misleading), getting people to get a "free credit report" that is not the government mandated free credit report, and whose entire program was really about upselling people to expensive credit monitoring services.  However, we noted back in March that the FTC was finally <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100302/2343298378.shtml">forcing the site</a> to be more honest in its marketing -- including a clear and conspicuous link to the real free credit report offering.  But now, reports are coming out that FreeCreditReport.com <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/your-money/credit-scores/08credit.html" target="_blank">isn't offering <i>anything</i> for free any more</a>.  The report you used to get for free is now a dollar.  And, even though they promise to donate that dollar to charity, it makes you wonder: could the domain name itself be considered false advertising?
<br /><br />
Of course, the reason why Experian is charging that dollar seems even more misleading than its old advertising program:
<blockquote><i>
The new F.T.C. rules went into effect on April 2, and they required sites to include a prominent notice across the top of each Web page that mentioned free reports declaring that the only authorized source under federal law for such reports is annualcreditreport.com.
<br /><br />
Rather than include such disclosures, Experian added the $1 charge, saying that "due to federally imposed restrictions, it is no longer feasible for us to provide you" with a free credit report. And now that the report costs $1, the new F.T.C. rule would presumably no longer apply. 
</i></blockquote>
Yes, you read that right.  It's trying to make the FTC look bad for requiring the company to actually be honest... and, in doing so, is pretending that this means it no longer has to be honest.  An Experian spokesperson explained it this way:
<blockquote><i>The offer for the $1 report is very clear and in compliance with the F.T.C.'s rule," she said in an e-mail reply to questions. "There is no express or implied offer on our site for a free report."
</i></blockquote>
Other than the domain, you  mean?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100408/1533358944.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100408/1533358944.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100408/1533358944.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:28:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>People Who Exaggerate Themselves On Online Dating Sites Do So Just As Much In Real Life As Well</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's this generally accepted wisdom out there that on the internet, people lie about themselves freely.  Recently, we pointed to a study that found, actually, people are <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100219/0330438238.shtml">pretty honest</a> about themselves when creating social networking profiles.  At the time, we noted that this might just be because on social networking sites people know they're connecting (mostly) with friends who already know them -- and then there are social mores against lying about yourself.  However, we wondered if the same would be true on dating sites.  We don't quite have the answer to that yet, but <a href="http://twitter.com/nancybaym/statuses/9935732995" target="_blank">Nancy Baym</a> points us to a study that says that daters who exaggerate about themselves <a href="http://www.news.ku.edu/2010/march/3/onlinedating.shtml" target="_blank">are equally likely to exaggerate about themselves in real life as well</a>.  That is, the exaggeration has nothing to do with it being online, and everything to do with what kind of person they are.
<br /><br />
Furthermore, the study found that those who lie online aren't doing it to necessarily be manipulative -- but because they want to better "fit in."  So, it's more about appearing "normal," rather than appearing exceptional in some way.
<br /><br />
Oh, and as for the overall amount of lying?  It was actually "quite small," because the online daters hope to actually meet in person with the people they meet online, they know that lying in the dating profile will also quickly be discovered.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100303/1515348397.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100303/1515348397.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100303/1515348397.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:33:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Orlando Police Chief Threatens Critical Blogger, Saying Truth Isn't A Defense</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've seen plenty of government officials get upset about various things critics have said about them, and <a href="http://www.funkeemunkeeland.com">Tim</a> writes in to let us know that down in Orlando, Florida, the local police chief is <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-locdemings25042609apr26,0,6980281.story" target="_new">threatening to sue a web critic</a> who put up a site highlighting how the chief had her gun stolen from her car, and then that news was kept secret for a while.  While there are some complications here (the site the blogger is using is the chief's name, <a href="http://valdemings.com/" target="_new">ValDemings.com</a>, for example), it's hard to see how there's any defamation here at all, despite the Chief's claims.  She does claim that he portrayed the situation in "false light," but as the article notes, the Florida Supreme Court recently ruled that "false light isn't a legitimate cause of action and has the potential to chill free speech."
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But what may be most scary is the following quote from Demings' attorney:
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"Truth is not always a defense.  I hope he [Harris] gets himself a really good lawyer."
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While it's true that some have been trying to push the boundaries of libel law to get rid of "truth" as an absolute defense, that troubles most people, and it's hardly common.  Of course, in the meantime, in trying to shut up this blogger, Demings seems to be doing a great job kicking up a lot of attention about the fact she lost her gun...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090429/0244064692.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090429/0244064692.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090429/0244064692.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:57:38 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Yet Another Truth Telling Computer... Haven't We Seen This Before?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For years and years and years, we've been hearing about hugely ambitious projects to try to create "thinking" machines that can absorb a ton of information and spit out facts.  Yet, every time, when the true tests begin, the project never gets very far, for a variety of reasons.  First, the technology usually isn't that good.  Having a computer decide what is "truthful" isn't exactly an easy problem -- especially when plenty of humans can't even agree on what is, and what is not, truthful.  Second, these companies have failed to come up with a reason why anyone would really want/need to use such a thing.  After all, how useful is a "truth" machine compared to a simple search engine?  These projects come and go, and there's always <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20020610/158251.shtml">someone</a> insisting that the holy grail is on its way.  The latest is Stephen Wolfram, something of a high tech oddity.  He built a tremendous success with Mathematica and clearly is a sort of techie's techie.  That's why it's not as easy to simply dismiss his claims to have <a href="http://blog.wolfram.com/2009/03/05/wolframalpha-is-coming/" target="_new">created just such a knowledge system</a>.  That said, I'm still not convinced there's a particularly good use case for the product -- and, even if it's much better than what's come before, chances are it still has an incredibly long way to go.  Wolfram is a super smart guy -- and I do hope he's figured out how to really create such a thing, but given how many similar claims we've seen in the past, it seems only wise to express some significant skepticism.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090308/1512564036.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090308/1512564036.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090308/1512564036.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>believe-it-when-I-see-it</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:36:58 PST</pubDate>
<title>Truth Is No Longer An Absolute Defense Against Libel?!?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/0147393882.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Thanks to Jon, for pointing to us a very scary recent court ruling that appears to have done away with one of the most basic free speech rights: that <i>truth</i> is an absolute defense against libel.  Apparently, a federal appeals court in Boston <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/the-most-dangerous-libel-decision-in-decades/" target="_new">feels that there are exceptions to this rule</a>, and that even the truth can be libelous.  If that seems incredibly problematic, you're right.
<br /><br />
The case involved the office supply company Staples, who had fired an employee for abusing the company's travel and expense reporting system.  After letting the guy, Alan S. Noonan, go, the company sent an email to many employees letting them know why Noonan was fired: "A thorough investigation determined that Alan was not in compliance with our [travel and expenses] policies."  Noonan sued for libel, but Staples pointed out that since it was entirely accurate, there was no case.
<br /><br />
However, the appeals court noted a century old Massachusetts law that suggests that truth is a defense against libel <i>except</i> if the plaintiff can show "actual malice" by the defendant in publishing the statement.  Even though an earlier ruling had ruled that particular law was <a href="http://www.legaline.com/2009/02/think-you-know-libel-law-think-again.html">unconstitutional</a>, the appeals court said that earlier ruling didn't apply.  Instead, it said that since Staples had never named an employee fired for similar reasons, there was "malice" in sending out the email it sent.  This may only apply in Massachusetts and it's highly likely to eventually be overturned (either in a rehearing by the entire appeals court, or eventually the Supreme Court), but in the meantime, it represents a very troubling change in the commonly accepted understanding that true statements can't be found as libelous.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/0147393882.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/0147393882.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/0147393882.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>um...-that's-not-good</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:52:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Is The Internet Bad For Truth... Or Is The Truth Bad For Truth?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081230/0248083247.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It's been nearly two decades since I first read Robert Anton Wilson and Bob Shea's <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=vqUvSld_-AsC&#038;q=illuminatus+trilogy&#038;dq=illuminatus+trilogy&#038;ei=vfhZSceIHIzKM8uL4JAC&#038;pgis=1" target="_new"><i>The Illuminatus! Trilogy</i></a>.  Like plenty of people influenced by that book, parts of it have stuck with me ever since -- even if it's been at least a dozen years since I last picked it up.  One key thing that I remember taking away from the book is a recognition that "the truth" isn't always as clear as it seems -- and anyone claiming to tell you the full truth is misleading you in some way or another.  One key scene (which I think was actually buried in a footnote in an appendix, but as I said, it's been many, many years...) is where the authors point out that the only way people recognize the real truth of a situation is by figuring it out for themselves -- and present a scenario whereby that happens.  If you took a low level army private and put him between two equally high ranking generals, with one screaming for the private to sit down, and the other demanding he stand up -- the likely response is for the private to "wig out" and finally make a decision for himself.  To me, investigating the "truth" is always something along those lines.  I find it compelling to have various generals screaming totally contradictory concepts until I have no choice but to look at <i>all</i> of the evidence and decide for myself.
<br /><br />
Apparently, some people feel quite differently.
<br /><br />
Over in Forbes, there's a column by Melik Kaylan, where he claims that <a href="http://www.forbes.com/home_asia/2008/12/22/internet-media-television-oped-cx_mk_1223kaylan.html" target="_new">the internet is "bad for truth"</a> <i>because</i> it presents so many contradictory ideas.  He bemoans the fact that, in the good old days, the truth was whatever the elitist and limited media told you was the truth, no matter how wrong it might have been.  But, these days, with so many different and contradictory voices, Kaylan worries that the actual truth just gets blurry and people simply surround themselves with the truth that they want and ignore the "official" truth.
<br /><br />
This is, really, just a rehashing of the old "echo chamber" insult that gets thrown at various online communities -- and I've yet to see much evidence that it's true at all.  Folks involved in extreme communities often seem to actively <i>seek out</i> opposing viewpoints, if only to trash them.  Yes, I'm sure there are some folks who refuse to read anything critical of their own viewpoints, but those people are so far gone already, I'm not sure it really matters.  As someone who is occasionally accused of having "extreme" points of view, I actively read the viewpoints of various critics and people who disagree with me, because it helps me to continually understand that "truth" that I seek.  It keeps me sharp as I keep refining and adjusting my own beliefs -- whether it's figuring out why someone I disagree with is wrong, or if I can't figure it out, refining my own beliefs.  Not everyone is necessarily like that, but I'd argue that people are a lot better off having more information at their fingertips to make their own decisions than when they got the word from on high from some "official" source. 
<br /><br />
It's not that the internet is bad for truth.  It's that people have started to realize that the "truth" provided to them from official sources wasn't true at all.  The real problem for "the truth" was that the actual truth didn't match up to it.  That's not the "fault" of the internet -- it's one of the benefits of the internet.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081230/0248083247.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081230/0248083247.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081230/0248083247.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>perception-and-reality</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:22:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The Uneasy Balance Between Wikipedia And Truth</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081020/0324482588.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've long been a staunch defender of Wikipedia -- a site that I think many of us find quite useful.  Most of the criticisms directed at Wikipedia come off as misguided -- and usually come from people who only just realized that <i>anyone can edit it</i> and insist this is somehow <i>bad</i> before recognizing that this usually tends to be pretty good, because it means mistakes tend not to last very long.  That isn't to say that mistakes aren't made -- or even that they're not made quite frequently.  But, as long as you recognize that Wikipedia, by itself, is not meant to be the definitive source, then it is still an amazingly useful repository of information that can be used as a starting point.
<br /><br />
However, Simpson Garfinkel has an interesting article pointing out that there is one element of <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/printer_friendly_article.aspx?id=21558&#038;channel=web&#038;section=" target="_new">Wikipedia's relationship to "truth" that should be examined</a>.  That is, the site very highly values verifiability over truth.  In other words, it will always side with a citation over personal knowledge -- even if that citation is incorrect.  This leads to some odd situations, when you think about it.  After all, people will point out that Wikipedia's advantage over something like Britannica is that mistakes stay for much longer in Britannica.  But, that might only be true if the Wikipedia entry isn't based on a false citation.
<br /><br />
If the Wikipedia entry is based on a false citation, and there's no other citation that contradicts it, then it's likely that Wikipedia's entry will remain wrong, but citable.  So, the easy editing of Wikipedia is a bit meaningless if the source of the false fact is not also editable (or if there's no citation that shows the original citation is wrong).  I've seen this myself lately with the short entry about me.  While I do take quite seriously the typical admonition not to edit your own entry, I have checked it at times.  What amuses me, is that it tends to have my birthday wrong (flipping the month and the date, such that my real birthday -- December 8, or 12/08 -- is flipped to August 12, or 08/12).  I've been watching a couple of people (one of whom I'm pretty sure I know) argue back and forth about the date, with the person who keeps flipping it back to the wrong date claiming at one point that he is me.  He's not.  Of course, I don't take this as evidence of Wikipedia's failure, but more a reminder of what the site is and what it's not.  It's a useful starting point for investigation, which is quite often reliable and sufficient, but I wouldn't recommend betting your life on it.  Or even your birthday.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081020/0324482588.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081020/0324482588.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081020/0324482588.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>it-ain't-always-there</slash:department>
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