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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:36:09 PST</pubDate>
<title>Judge Will Review If Apple/Samsung Jury Foreman Withheld Pertinent Info</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ After the jury decision in the Apple/Samsung patent fight in the US came out, lots of people pointed to statements from the foreman of the jury, Vel Hogan, that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120826/23534320161/applesamsung-jurors-admit-they-finished-quickly-ignoring-prior-art-other-key-factors.shtml">raised</a> serious <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120830/02063020214/samsungapple-jury-foremans-explanation-verdict-shows-he-doesnt-understand-prior-art.shtml">questions</a> about Hogan's understanding of the legal issues at play, especially pertaining to prior art.  It also suggested possible bias.  Still, even with all of that, it's very, very difficult to get a jury ruling thrown out on jury misconduct -- but Samsung has unveiled one bit of info that <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57547490-37/judge-to-review-whether-foreman-in-apple-v-samsung-hid-info/" target="_blank">Judge Lucy Koh has now agreed to review</a>: whether or not Hogan needed to reveal that he had a legal dispute with Seagate, a former Hogan employer, who is also a major strategic partner of Samsung.  Koh is also asking Apple's lawyers to reveal if they knew this info, which Samsung's lawyers did not.
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At the December 6, 2012 hearing, the Court will consider the questions of whether the jury foreperson concealed information during voir dire, whether any concealed information was material, and whether any concealment constituted misconduct. An assessment of such issues is intertwined with the question of whether and when Apple had a duty to disclose the circumstances and timing of its discovery of information about the foreperson. 
</i></blockquote>
While this is an interesting move, and worth watching, I doubt much will come out of it.  Hogan did admit that he'd had legal issues in the past with a former employer, but no one delved into who or why.
<blockquote><i>
During voir dire, Hogan did disclose that he had been involved in litigation with a former partner when the judge asked him if he had ever been involved in litigation.
<br /><br />
Hogan has noted, in response to Samsung's allegations, that the judge didn't ask for a complete listing of all the lawsuits he had been involved with. 
</i></blockquote>
Again, most of this aspect is just a sideshow to the eventual long series of appeals that will come in this case -- and I doubt that the judge will find misconduct here.  But just the fact that judge is considering it makes it worth following.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11104620988/judge-will-review-if-applesamsung-jury-foreman-withheld-pertinent-info.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11104620988/judge-will-review-if-applesamsung-jury-foreman-withheld-pertinent-info.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/11104620988/judge-will-review-if-applesamsung-jury-foreman-withheld-pertinent-info.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:38:20 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Blagojevich Ordered Not To Live Tweet His Own Trial</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100608/1331029740.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich hasn't exactly been one to stay quiet since being removed from office and charged with corruption.  If anything, he's worked hard to make sure that the limelight remains on him as much as possible, including participating in a variety of publicity stunts.  The latest was his announced plan to live tweet his own trial on Twitter, a plan that <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/twitter-room/other-news/102047-judge-orders-blagojevich-not-to-tweet-in-court" target="_blank">appears to have been quickly shot down by the judge in the trial</a>, who banned him from tweeting from the courtroom.  He is allowed to do what he wants outside of the courtroom, though the judge warned him that anything he says could come back to haunt him in court:
<blockquote><i>
The ex-governor will be allowed to continue speaking with the media and appearing on radio programs -- at his own peril. 
<br /><br />
Zagel told Blagojevich that his sound bites, quips and "repeated public statements" to the cameras could be used against him if he testifies during the trial.
<br /><br />
"I'm quite sure it has been explained by his attorneys," Zagel said. 
</i></blockquote>
While we've seen stories about <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090317/0929284151.shtml">jurors tweeting</a>, this is the first I can remember of a defendant wanting to live tweet his own trial...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100608/1331029740.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100608/1331029740.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100608/1331029740.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>stay-quiet</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:47:46 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is Ignoring RIAA Lawsuit Cheaper Than Going To Trial?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090928/1036416334.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ A bunch of folks have been sending in Nate Anderson's article about how <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/09/ignoring-riaa-lawsuits-cheaper-than-going-to-trial.ars" target="_new">ignoring an RIAA lawsuit may be "cheaper" than going to trial</a>.  It makes for a nice storyline, but it's really not entirely accurate.  It's based on the fact that Judge Gertner, who was the judge in the Joel Tenenbaum trial, just handed out some default judgments against people who never bothered to respond at all to an RIAA lawsuit over file sharing.  In each case, Gertner chose the statutory minimum of $750 per song, much less than Jammie Thomas got in her two trials and Joel Tenenbaum received in his trial.
<br /><br />
But, of course, these aren't apples-to-apples comparisons (not to mention that we're dealing with a classic "small sample size" problem).  Specifically, the three trials involved a combination of poorly argued defenses that made the defendants look worse, combined with defendants themselves who both admitted to lying.  And, add to that the fact that they're jury trials, where juries tend to give out larger awards than a judge does, and it's really not a huge surprise.  If you had defendants who actually had a real case, combined with a defense team that actually argued the specific points, things might have been different.  But, it looks like, with both Thomas and Tenenbaum, the goal was to create a bigger case that can get attention at higher levels to take on certain aspects of copyright law itself.
<br /><br />
And, of course, as an addendum on the article notes, it's still probably cheaper to settle up in the first place, but that's exactly how the RIAA intends things to be.  It's the same principle on which an extortion scam works: it's cheaper to pay up than to fight it.  But, that doesn't mean it's right to just shut up and pay -- especially if the accused is innocent.  As much as the RIAA must love Anderson's article, because it encourages people not to fight its lawsuits, the reality is a lot more complicated.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090928/1036416334.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090928/1036416334.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090928/1036416334.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>isn't-that-what-they-count-on?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:58:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Pirate Bay Appeal To Be Heard By Judge Tied To Copyright Group As Well</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As The Pirate Bay gears up for the appeal of its trial in Sweden, it's worth noting that the judge chosen to hear the trial happens to be the same one who was <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-appeal-scheduled-for-november-090903/" target="_new"><i>removed</i> from reviewing the fairness of the original trial</a> because she happens to belong to the same pro-stronger copyright group as the original judge.  How is that fair?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090904/0230086100.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090904/0230086100.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090904/0230086100.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>well,-that-seems-fair...</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 08:11:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Suggestion: Don't Text Message Your Boss While On The Witness Stand</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/1257224910.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently wrote about a trial where there were concerns that a jury member was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090407/1053054417.shtml">sending Twitter messages</a> during the trial, but that's nothing compared to <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202430721257" target="_new">text messaging <i>while on the witness stand</i></a>.  Yes, apparently a guy who was being questioned as a witness, used a break in the action (as the judge spoke to the lawyers in the case) to text message with his boss, who was also in the court room and at the plaintiff table.  After being alerted to this by a "courtroom spectator," the judge declared a mistrial:
<blockquote><i>
"Let me be really frank about this," the judge said. "I never had this happen before. This is completely outrageous, absolutely outrageous."
<br /><br />
Toledano responded, "It was on a break."
<br /><br />
Silverman shot back: "It doesn't matter. You are communicating about the case and the subject matter of the case with a witness who is currently under oath and before the jury,"
<br /><br />
Toledano said, "I'm sorry, after we took the break, it's not in the middle."
<br /><br />
The judge explained himself again.
<br /><br />
"It's a problem on your communicating with the witness about his testimony whether it's before the break, after the break and during the break while he's testifying," he said. "This is outrageous." 
</i></blockquote>
These stories of technology in the courtroom seem to be coming up more and more frequently.  It seems as though very few people have really thought through the implications of the many channels of communication that every individual now has with them, and how that changes common assumptions about how people can and will communicate, even in "constrained" areas.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/1257224910.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/1257224910.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090517/1257224910.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>that-would-be-a-mistrial</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 7 May 2009 04:04:38 PDT</pubDate>
<title>IFPI Using Disputed Pirate Bay Verdict To Claim Web Hosting Companies Are Liable</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090506/0343204768.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ After the entertainment industry <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050627/0859258_F.shtml">partially</a> won its Supreme Court decision against Grokster, it didn't take long at all for the RIAA to start claiming the ruling said stuff <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050711/1747224_F.shtml">it didn't</a>.  Specifically, the Supreme Court ruling said that a site <i>could</i> be found liable if it induced infringement by encouraging such uses.  This was already quite surprising to many because the idea of an "inducement" standard for copyright is not found in the law (in fact, some in Congress had <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20040624/157237.shtml">introduced</a> an "INDUCE Act" to try to put it into the law -- suggesting that even Congress didn't think copyright law includes an inducement standard).  However, the RIAA falsely started claiming that the Supreme Court ruling made all sorts of file sharing apps -- even those that did not encourage unauthorized copying -- guilty of infringing copyrights.
<br /><br />
So, it should come as little surprise that the RIAA's international wing, the IFPI, appears to be <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/ifpi-goes-after-torrent-site-hosting-providers-090505/" target="_new">doing the exact same thing with the recent Pirate Bay ruling</a> (which, of course, is still being appealed and is highly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090422/2213024614.shtml">disputed</a> due to conflicts of interest with the judge in the case).   The IFPI is apparently going around to web hosting firms who host other torrent trackers, and claiming that The Pirate Bay ruling makes <i>them</i> potentially criminally liable if they don't take down the tracker sites.  But, of course, The Pirate Bay ruling was specific to the facts in that case, which are somewhat different from a random web host hosting a website for someone.  Still, it just goes to show the lengths that the industry will go to in order to twist any legal ruling to try to shut down sites it doesn't like.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090506/0343204768.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090506/0343204768.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090506/0343204768.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>stretch-the-truth-much?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:11:49 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge In Pirate Bay Case Appears To Have Ties To The Copyright Lobby</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090422/2213024614.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Via <a href="http://twitter.com/thornkvist/statuses/1591702954">Martin Thornkvist</a>, we find out that Swedish Public radio has discovered that the judge in The Pirate Bay case <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&#038;hl=en&#038;js=n&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sr.se%2Fsida%2Fartikel.aspx%3FProgramId%3D1646%26Artikel%3D2785979&#038;sl=sv&#038;tl=en" target="_new">apparently has some ties to the copyright lobby</a> (that's a Google translation -- if you know Swedish, the <a href="http://www.sr.se/sida/artikel.aspx?ProgramId=1646&#038;Artikel=2785979" target="_new">original is here</a>).  Apparently, he's a member of a few organizations that work towards strengthening copyright laws, and even holds a board position in one of those organizations.  The lawyers representing the entertainment industry also belonged to one of the pro-copyright organizations in which the judge is a member.   Experts quoted in the article note that this is highly irregular, and the judge should have recused himself for conflict of interest.  The judge, of course, claims that he doesn't believe he was biased at all, but others note that any hint of bias is a problem in such a legal case (let alone such a high profile one).<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090422/2213024614.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090422/2213024614.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090422/2213024614.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>ooops</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:58:50 PST</pubDate>
<title>The Pirate Bay Closing Arguments: Since We Can't Get The Real Infringers, We Should Blame Everything On These Guys</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090302/0951073949.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ As the closing arguments are being heard in The Pirate Bay lawsuit in Sweden, there seems to be some <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-day-10-calls-for-jail-time-090302/" target="_new">rather tortured reasoning</a> by the entertainment industry that's quite troubling if the court accepts it.  Representatives for the entertainment industry keep claiming that the claims of "losses" from the entertainment industry (including one guy who claimed that all of the industry's troubles could be pinned on "piracy") should be taken as fact, and the professor who discussed numerous studies showing this was untrue shouldn't be listened to.  But the most troubling of all may be this:
<blockquote><i>
The police can't possibly go after all TPB's users and the defendants are therefore responsible for the whole damage claim, he argued, adding that they are free to claim money from their users.
</i></blockquote>
So, because they are too incompetent to deal with the actual problem, they should put <i>all</i> of the blame on the four guys they happened to round up.  Doesn't anyone realize how ridiculous a precedent that would set?  There's also the claim that damages should cover "the damage in goodwill" to the entertainment industry.  Has it not occurred to them that the damage in goodwill wasn't from The Pirate Bay, but the industry's idiotic response to services like The Pirate Bay?  Hopefully the court sees through such tortured reasoning.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090302/0951073949.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090302/0951073949.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090302/0951073949.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>interesting-logic</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:29:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Prosecutors Change Pirate Bay Charges Again; Weak Evidence Exposed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/1303143885.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Before the trial of The Pirate Bay started in Sweden, it seemed like the defendants were being a bit brash in declaring the whole trial a spectacle, with no real legal basis.  While I have a difficult time seeing how The Pirate Bay is guilty of being anything other than a search engine, I had assumed (at the very least) that in the two or so years that Swedish prosecutors and various entertainment industry lawyers were preparing the case that they would at least present a competent case.  So far, they haven't shown that at all.  First they were forced to <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090217/1024233798.shtml">drop half the charges</a> on the second day of the case, after realizing that half the charges didn't apply.  Then, the prosecutors have been called out repeatedly for introducing new evidence, against the rules of the court.  Then, there was the snafu of asking a proclaimed Pirate Bay user to talk about how <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090223/1939573875.shtml">The Pirate Bay is bad</a>.
<br /><br />
The stumbling has only continued.  It started with the prosecution <a href="http://www.thelocal.se/17806/20090224/" target="_new">modifying some of the remaining charges</a>, as they once again seem to have realized that what they charged these guys with doesn't apply.  Isn't that the sort of thing you're supposed to do well before the case is actually in the trial stage?  Then, they put some of the anti-piracy investigators on the stand, where it was quickly shown that they were technically incompetent -- and the examples they were showing may have been found via The Pirate Bay, but didn't involve The Pirate Bay at all in the actual sharing of content (which makes sense, since The Pirate Bay doesn't host any content itself).  When challenged on whether or not the file sharing actually involved The Pirate Bay's trackers, the IFPI's Magnus Martensson admitted: "I think I've said this three times, that I just assumed it."  Great bit of "evidence" there.
<br /><br />
Furthermore, Martensson was asked about how using The Pirate Bay differed from using Google, and he appeared unaware that Google could be used to find torrents.  Yes, this is the guy in charge of "anti-piracy" efforts, admitting when questioned that "I don't know about Google."   Did it really take this long for the prosecution to assemble such a weak case?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/1303143885.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/1303143885.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090224/1303143885.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>it-took-them-two-years-to-prepare-this?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:08:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>When You Pick An Author To Represent Swedish Authors Angry At The Pirate Bay, Maybe Don't Pick A Pirate Bay Fan</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090223/1939573875.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Who knows who is actually going to win the trial of The Pirate Bay in Sweden, but you have to admit that the prosecution has been <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090217/1024233798.shtml">screwing up</a> left and right.  The latest is almost comical in its ridiculousness.  Apparently the lawyer representing the movie industry, Monique Wadsted, asked a novelist friend of hers, named Carina Rydberg, to <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-prosecution-hires-hypocrite-pirate-author-for-pr-090223/" target="_new">gather up some quotes from other authors</a> on how evil The Pirate Bay was for their careers.  The idea was to use those quotes in her closing remarks.  Rydberg, ever the good friend, posted to a Facebook group of Swedish authors:
<blockquote><i>
"My friend Monique Wadsted, who represents the movie and gaming industry in the trial against The Pirate Bay, needs comments from creators and authors on these issues. She is currently preparing her closing arguments and would like to end it with a message from Swedish authors. It can't be long -- only 30 seconds -- so we're talking one-liners here."
<br /><br />
"Since I know that we the authors are affected by file-sharing, I think this is an excellent chance to take a stand. [...] I'll try to write something and would like to encourage members to do the same. [...] Furthermore, Monique would love to see us coming to the court in person. As things look now, the whole situation is dominated by the pirates."
</i></blockquote>
That all seems reasonable enough.  As TorrentFreak points out in the link above, there are probably plenty of authors out there who haven't realized how to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080124/08563359.shtml">leverage file sharing</a> to their own advantage, and they have every right to have their say.  The problem, however, is that Rydberg doesn't appear to be in that camp.  In that very same Facebook group, Rydberg has previously talked about using The Pirate Bay and how it's been helpful to her, even encouraging people to pirate her own out of print books.  Torrent Freak highlights some of her earlier comments:
<blockquote><i>
"Because I want to watch movies that can neither be rented anymore nor bought on the Internet. I want to read books that are out of print and will cost you 750 British pounds on eBay. For that reason, I want The Pirate Bay to stay. At the moment, I'm trying to download John Schlesinger's 'The Day of the Locust'; it takes time and it's not even certain I'll get a copy that is watchable - but at the same time I have no idea how to get the damn flick any another way...."
<br /><br />
"The Pirate Bay is an invaluable source for content that publishers, record labels and movie studios for some reason can't or won't offer. If someone on The Pirate Bay chose to download the book I wrote in 1989 I would have no objection to that. That novel is practically impossible to get hold of and as an author I want to be read."
</i></blockquote>
Not exactly the "spokesperson" the movie industry was probably looking for.  Rydberg has apparently been rushing around trying to edit those old posts, but, of course, copies live on, elsewhere -- and she's also found to have commented similarly elsewhere.  Perhaps she should have brought that up with Wadsted before agreeing to make statements trashing The Pirate Bay for court proceedings.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090223/1939573875.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090223/1939573875.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090223/1939573875.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:10:15 PST</pubDate>
<title>Prosecutors Drop Half The Charges Against The Pirate Bay</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We avoided reporting on The Pirate Bay trial yesterday because not much of interest actually happened.  It was (as The Pirate Bay folks intended) more of a spectacle than anything interesting.  However, this morning, the prosecutors <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10165604-38.html" target="_new">dropped half the charges against the defendants</a>, apparently after realizing that The Pirate Bay did not copy any files directly or produce any copyrighted materials for download.  While the entertainment industry talking heads are trying to play down the significance of this, it is really rather stunning.  Prosecutors have been working on this case (with tremendous assistance from the industry and even foreign government representatives) for well over a year.  You would have thought that sometime during that process they would have examined how The Pirate Bay works, and whether or not it actually copies files.  It kinda makes you wonder what the prosecution has been doing all this time.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090217/1024233798.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090217/1024233798.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090217/1024233798.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:11:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Pirate Bay Trial In Sweden To Be Broadcast Online</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We're getting close to the start of the big <a href="http://trial.thepiratebay.org/">Pirate Bay trial</a> in Sweden that hopefully will settle the question of whether or not running a torrent tracker search engine is legal in that country.  Apparently, the trial is being held in a rather small courtroom, and there was some fear that this would significantly limit media access (especially since all media requests were supposedly being screened to make sure that the reporters "had no connection to the movement" -- whatever that means).  The good news, however, is that the court has agreed to the request from The Pirate Bay to <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-trial-audio-will-be-streamed-online-090211/" target="_new">stream the audio from the trial</a>.  Should be worth paying attention to what happens...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090211/1757043738.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090211/1757043738.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090211/1757043738.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:02:47 PDT</pubDate>
<title>RIAA Appeals Mistrial Ruling In The Jammie Thomas Trial</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The RIAA seems so positively offended that its "making available" theory keeps getting rejected by courts that it's willing to object to just about anything.  As you probably know, the RIAA's only "win" in a full trial was declared a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080924/2255532365.shtml">mistrial</a>, after the judge realized he had made a "manifest error of law" in incorrectly instructing the jury that simply making a file available in a shared folder was the equivalent of "distribution" under copyright law.  The judge then ordered a new trial.
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It probably shouldn't come as a surprise that <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/riaa-appealing.html" target="_new">the RIAA is appealing this decision</a>, asking an appeals court to overturn the mistrial ruling and let the original ruling stand.  While it may not be a surprise that the RIAA would be upset at the ruling, filing an appeal on a mistrial ruling is <a href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html#6982228835079988736">highly unusual</a>.  Normally, appeals are focused on actual rulings, not a decision that a trial was a mistrial.  It seems like a long shot that the appeals court would agree to review the mistrial ruling.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081016/0024202556.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081016/0024202556.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081016/0024202556.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:57:44 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge Declares Mistrial In RIAA's Only Court Victory</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The RIAA's <i>only</i> court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071004/160727.shtml">victory</a> in its years-long legal battle against individuals who engage in unauthorized file sharing has <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/not-for-publica.html" target="_new">been declared a mistrial, and the $222,000 fine against Jammie Thomas has been thrown out</a>.  Jammie Thomas may now face a new trial, but this time, the jury will be instructed that the record labels need to have shown <i>actual infringement</i> -- and that simply making files available is not infringement.  This is a pretty huge loss for the RIAA, who had been running around like crazy using the Thomas verdict to (a) claim that the courts recognize that "making available" is infringement and (b) that this case somehow proves that file sharers will get huge fines.  Yet, now the RIAA is back to having no actual court victories against file sharers, and its "making available = infringement" argument is once again rejected.
<br /><br />
Perhaps equally as interesting, in declaring the mistrial, Judge Davis also <a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/09/capitol-v-thomas-judge-orders-new-trial-implores-c">called upon Congress to change the ridiculous fines</a> that can be levied on file sharers, noting that they seem to be way, way out of proportion to the seriousness of the act:
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The Court would be remiss if it did not take this opportunity to implore Congress to amend the Copyright Act to address liability and damages in peer-to-peer network cases such as the one currently before this Court. . . . While the Court does not discount Plaintiffs' claim that, cumulatively, illegal downloading has far-reaching effects on their businesses, the damages awarded in this case are wholly disproportionate to the damages suffered by Plaintiffs.
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<pubDate>Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:35:55 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge In Jammie Thomas Trial Seems Likely To Declare A Mistrial</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In the ongoing saga of the Jammie Thomas trial, where the RIAA tried to get its first serious victory in court against an alleged file sharer, things may be looking a bit grim for the RIAA's argument.  While it initially <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071004/160727.shtml">gloated</a> after winning the case, the judge later admitted that he may have made a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080515/1228441125.shtml">"manifest error of law"</a> in saying that the RIAA did not need to prove actual infringement -- but that showing Thomas had "made available" content was good enough.  While both the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080621/1257061470.shtml">MPAA</a> and the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080630/2000361557.shtml">RIAA</a> tried to explain why actual proof of infringement shouldn't be necessary because it's just too difficult (the gist of their arguments), it appears that <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/judge-hints-at.html" target="_new">the judge is not at all persuaded by their arguments</a> and seems quite likely to declare a mistrial.
<br /><br />
In the hearing today, the RIAA's lawyer basically argued the same point: that because it's too difficult to obtain evidence, evidence shouldn't be necessary.  The judge responded by pointing out that if Congress really intended for that to be the case, then it would have written the law to make it clear that "making available" was infringement.  Since it did not, it seemed likely that Congress did not intend for the law to be read as the RIAA wants it to be read (have no fear, of course, because as we speak you can rest assured that RIAA/MPAA lobbyists are working to get the law changed on this point).
<br /><br />
Of course, whoever loses this ruling will appeal, this case is <i>far</i> from over.  It will go through a series of appeals to determine whether or not the whole "making available" aspect is distribution, and then even after that's settled there are numerous other points that Thomas is likely to appeal (assuming the case is still going).  What I don't understand is why Thomas and her lawyer haven't also appealed over the fact that the RIAA later admitted that a key witness <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080104/155907.shtml">lied on the stand</a> concerning a key point over the legality of making personal copies of music you bought.  That would seem to also be an important point.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080804/1612281887.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080804/1612281887.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080804/1612281887.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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