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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:43:31 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Scientist Refused Permission To Call Hominids 'Hobbits', Even Though Word First Used In Print In 1895 -- And Not By Tolkien</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Techdirt has written before about the aggressive enforcement habits of the Tolkien estate, once in connection with the name "<a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110226/19564813296/tolkien-estate-says-just-mentioning-tolkien-infringes-tolkien-censorwear-appears-response.shtml">Tolkien</a>", and once regarding the word "<a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120314/04452918102/decades-old-uk-pub-hobbit-threatened-with-legal-action-infringing-hobbit-ip.shtml">Hobbit</a>". Looks like <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Hobbit-makers-ban-uni-from-using-hobbit/tabid/423/articleID/273952/Default.aspx">they're at it again, down in New Zealand</a>:

<i><blockquote>Victoria University's Brent Alloway has organised a free public lecture on Homo floresiensis, a species closely related to humans which lived on Flores Island, but has been told he is not allowed to call the free public lecture 'The Other Hobbit'.
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The volcanologist wrote to the estate of Hobbit author JRR Tolkein about the event on December 1 as a courtesy, but was told by Wellington lawyers AJ Park representing the estate that he was not allowed to use the word.</blockquote></i>

That's pretty ridiculous from many viewpoints.  First, this is a free public lecture from a scientist -- not a commercial use of any kind.  Secondly, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4994054.stm">the hominids in question have been called "hobbits" by the scientific community almost since their discovery in  2004</a>, so this is a very well-established usage.  Finally -- and most interestingly -- over on Twitter, <a href="https://twitter.com/putt1ck">Chris Puttick</a> pointed out that <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Hobbit">Tolkien wasn't even the first to use the term "hobbit" in this sense</a>:

<i><blockquote>The word also turns up in a very long list of folkloric supernatural creatures in the writings of Michael Aislabie Denham (d.1859), printed in volume 2 of "The Denham Tracts" [ed. James Hardy, London: Folklore Society, 1895], a compilation of Denham's scattered publications. Denham was an early folklorist who concentrated on Northumberland, Durham, Westmoreland, Cumberland, the Isle of Man, and Scotland.</blockquote></i>

Since the book appeared in 1895, and Denham died in 1859, that would seem to place all of its text &#8211; and hence the creature known as a "hobbit" -  in the public domain.  I wonder what the Tolkien Estate will say to that?
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 May 2011 05:50:27 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Tolkien Estate 'Settles' Dispute Over Historical Fiction Book With JRR Tolkien As A Character</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110502/12110914120/tolkien-estate-settles-dispute-over-historical-fiction-book-with-jrr-tolkien-as-character.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ In one of the many, many overreaches by the Tokien Estate, it threatened author Stephen Hillard, who has written a bit of historical fiction combined with literary criticism, called <i>Mirkwood</i>, which uses a fictionalized JRR Tolkien as a character.  The Tolkien Estate sent a cease-and-desiste, and Hillard smartly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110219/00150613174/tolkien-estate-legal-spat-with-author-historical-fiction-will-publicity-rights-kill-off-historical-fiction.shtml">sued for declaratory judgment</a>.  Apparently the two sides have worked out their differences and <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/jrr-tolkien-estate-settles-dispute-184053" target="_blank">have settled the lawsuit</a>, which will allow the book to be published.  However, Hillard does have to make a few small changes:
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According to the settlement, the book will now be released with a modified reference to Tolkien on the cover and will also include the disclaimer, "This is a work of fiction which is neither endorsed nor connected with The JRR Tolkien Estate or its publisher." 
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I certainly understand why a settlement would be reached, but really it's too bad that any changes were made.  Hillard had a strong case, and the estate had little or no case.  Yet, now that it was able to pressure the author into making some changes (even if they were small), it emboldens the estate to continue its silly and counterproductive campaign.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110502/12110914120/tolkien-estate-settles-dispute-over-historical-fiction-book-with-jrr-tolkien-as-character.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110502/12110914120/tolkien-estate-settles-dispute-over-historical-fiction-book-with-jrr-tolkien-as-character.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110502/12110914120/tolkien-estate-settles-dispute-over-historical-fiction-book-with-jrr-tolkien-as-character.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:40:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Tolkien Estate Strikes Again: Forces Summer Camp To Change Name</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Christopher Tolkien and the estate of JRR Tolkien has a long history of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110226/19564813296/tolkien-estate-says-just-mentioning-tolkien-infringes-tolkien-censorwear-appears-response.shtml">overly aggressive</a> attempts to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110219/00150613174/tolkien-estate-legal-spat-with-author-historical-fiction-will-publicity-rights-kill-off-historical-fiction.shtml">stop anyone</a> from using any sort of Tolkien-related content.  The latest target: evil summer camps.  Apparently the Tolkien estate has <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2011/04/12/calgary-lord-rings-kids-camp.html" target="_blank">forced a Calgary summer camp to change its name</a>, because it was called Rivendell, after the elven outpost in <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>.  The camp received a cease-and-desist:
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"While our clients do not believe that you intended to infringe their intellectual property rights, you will understand that they have an obligation to protect these valuable rights and carefully to preserve the integrity of the Tolkien works." 
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Unfortunately, the article does not show the full letter, nor does it explain if the letter highlighted exactly <i>which</i> intellectual property rights the estate is complaining about.  Does the estate have a trademark on "rivendell" in Canada?  Does the estate use the term in commerce anywhere in order to get a trademark?  Does that trademark cover summer camps?  All of that seems doubtful.
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Either way, the camp just backed down and changed its name, noting that the whole <i>LotR</i> thing was getting pretty tired, anyway.  Nicely done, Christopher, you've just made sure that a whole bunch of kids will no longer have a positive summer camping experience associated with the name Rivendell...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110419/01104713954/tolkien-estate-strikes-again-forces-summer-camp-to-change-name.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110419/01104713954/tolkien-estate-strikes-again-forces-summer-camp-to-change-name.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110419/01104713954/tolkien-estate-strikes-again-forces-summer-camp-to-change-name.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>because-of-all-that-confusion</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:43:19 PST</pubDate>
<title>Tolkien Estate Says Just Mentioning Tolkien Infringes; Tolkien Censorwear Appears In Response</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110226/19564813296/tolkien-estate-says-just-mentioning-tolkien-infringes-tolkien-censorwear-appears-response.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been mentioning a bit about how the estate of JRR Tolkien has been <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110219/00150613174/tolkien-estate-legal-spat-with-author-historical-fiction-will-publicity-rights-kill-off-historical-fiction.shtml">overaggressive</a> in trying to enforce (sometimes non-existent) intellectual property rights related to Tolkien.  The estate has been like that for a while, but in the last few weeks it's seemed like the number of such stories have been ramping up.  The latest one is particularly ridiculous.  <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/25/tolkien-estate-censo.html" target="_blank">Boing Boing</a> points us to the news that the Tolkien Estate has <a href="http://www.giro.org/2011/02/23/the-jrr-tolkien-estate-can-go-fuck-itself/" target="_blank">threatened a guy for having a button that merely <i>mentions</i> Tolkien</a>:
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If you can't see the image, the button reads: "While you were reading Tolkien, I was watching Evangelion."  That's not infringing in any way, shape or form.  Yet, the Tolkien Estate sent Zazzle (where the button was being sold) a cease and desist.  Ridiculously, Zazzle simply complied.  That's disappointing as well.  In cases of obvious overreach, Zazzle should stand up for the rights of its users.
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Of course, where Zazzle fails to stand up for its users, its users seem to be more than willing to stand up for themselves.  A bunch of <A href="http://www.zazzle.com/Harpocrates" target="_blank">protest merchandise</a> has suddenly been showing up on Zazzle, such as the following two shirts, which joke about Christopher Tolkien's desire to censor any mention of his father that he hasn't approved or been paid for:
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:32:28 PST</pubDate>
<title>Does Re-Imagining Lord Of The Rings From The Perspective Of Mordor Violate Tolkien's Copyrights?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/11/02/21/0234230/LotR-Rewritten-From-a-Mordor-Perspective?from=twitter" target="_blank">Slashdot</a> recently pointed us to a Salon <a href="http://www.salon.com/books/laura_miller/2011/02/15/last_ringbearer/index.html" target="_blank">book review of a re-imagining of <i>Lord of the Rings</i></a> from the perspective of the "losers" in Mordor.  The book, entitled <i>The Last Ring-bearer</i> was written by a Russian paleontologist, who has offered up a <a href="http://ymarkov.livejournal.com/270570.html" target="_blank">free download</a> of the English translation.
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In Yeskov's retelling, the wizard Gandalf is a war-monger intent on crushing the scientific and technological initiative of Mordor and its southern allies because science "destroys the harmony of the world and dries up the souls of men!" He's in cahoots with the elves, who aim to become "masters of the world," and turn Middle-earth into a "bad copy" of their magical homeland across the sea. Barad-dur, also known as the Dark Tower and Sauron's citadel, is, by contrast, described as "that amazing city of alchemists and poets, mechanics and astronomers, philosophers and physicians, the heart of the only civilization in Middle-earth to bet on rational knowledge and bravely pitch its barely adolescent technology against ancient magic."
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Sounds fascinating.
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Of course, it also raises some copyright questions.  The Tolkien estate is notoriously over-protective of Tolkien's copyrights, and while the Salon review brushes over the copyright issues, it appears that there's some stirring among Tolkien rightsholders to <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/feb/08/lord-of-the-rings-reworking-tolkien-estate" target="_blank">potentially go after this book</a>.  If they do so, they may run into trouble.  The scenario seems remarkably similar to the case of <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wind_Done_Gone" target="_blank">The Wind Done Gone</a></i>, a retelling of <i>Gone With The Wind</i> from the perspective of a slave in the original work.  That book went through a big legal dispute and was eventually seen as legal, though the case was settled, rather than leading all the way to a full ruling on the topic. 
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In an era of growing "fan fiction," which can often go quite beyond the bounds of the stereotypical "fan fiction," this issue is going to become more and more important, and it's about time that the courts made it clear that such rewrites are perfectly legal reimaginings that do not violate anyone's copyright.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/12321513192/does-re-imagining-lord-rings-perspective-mordor-violate-tolkiens-copyrights.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/12321513192/does-re-imagining-lord-rings-perspective-mordor-violate-tolkiens-copyrights.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/12321513192/does-re-imagining-lord-rings-perspective-mordor-violate-tolkiens-copyrights.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:04:01 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Do J.R.R. Tolkien's Kids Deserve Money For The Lord Of The Rings Movies?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There are some competing opinion pieces in the LA Times, starting off with one siding with J.R.R. Tolkien's kids <a href="http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-et-brief2-2008jul02,0,2775685.story" target="_new">in their legal fight for royalties from the Lord of the Rings trilogy movies</a>:
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Tolkien obviously isn't Peter Jackson, who directed the franchise, or Liv Tyler or Viggo Mortensen, who starred in it, or New Line Cinema, the studio that financed it, or Miramax, which owned the film rights for a second but couldn't get the movie made, or producer Saul Zaentz, who bought the rights in 1976. He's just the guy who dreamed up the cosmology, the whole shebang of hobbits and dwarfs, orcs, ents, wargs, trolls, whatnot.
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Then, there's the other side, pointing out that while it might be true that they legally deserve the money, it doesn't make any <a href="http://opinion.latimes.com/bitplayer/2008/07/allow-me-to-inf.html">common sense</a>:
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I find it offensive to common sense to argue that the heirs of J.R.R. Tolkien (who are as dismayingly numerous as Kennedys in the court filing) are entitled to a shilling for work in which they had no hand and which was completed in 1949. 
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Most of the essay focuses on the question of the length of copyright, which we all know has been expanded to ridiculous lengths.   However, it does seem like a reasonable question to ask why the kids of Tolkien deserve money for a movie they had nothing to do with based on an idea they had nothing to do with.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080703/0307441587.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080703/0307441587.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080703/0307441587.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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