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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:39:48 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Here's Another Inventor Who Willingly Gave Away His Greatest Idea In Order To Establish It As A Global Standard</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>
Beyond the fact that you are using it to read these words, the Web has undeniably had a major impact on a large part of the world's population.  It's certainly one of the greatest inventions of recent times, and as Techdirt has noted before, one of the reasons it has taken off in such an amazing way, and led to so many further innovations, is because Sir Tim Berners-Lee decided not to <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110811/10245715476/what-if-tim-berners-lee-had-patented-web.shtml">patent</a> it.
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Few would argue that the <ahref ="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI">Musical Instrument Digital Interface -- MIDI -- is quite in the same league as the World Wide Web, and yet for musicians it has been hugely important in providing a common standard for playing and composing digital music.  As an article in Fortune reminds us, one reason for that success is that like Berners-Lee, <a href="http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/11/one-of-techs-most-successful-inventors-never-made-a-cent/">MIDI's inventor, Dave Smith, also gave away his brilliant creation</a>:

<i><blockquote>when Smith collaborated with a handful of Japanese companies -- including Roland and Yamaha -- to bring MIDI into the world 30 years ago, he skipped the licensing fees, instead offering up his idea for the world to steal. "We wanted to be sure we had 100% participation, so we decided not to charge any other companies that wanted to use it," says Smith.</blockquote></i>

What's noteworthy here -- aside from the ridiculous use of the word "steal" -- is that letting people use the MIDI standard for free was not some accident or oversight: well before the example of Berners-Lee, Smith understood that it was the best way to get his standard widely adopted.  That's not to say that he hasn't occasionally hankered after the riches he might have received had he charged for a license, but in the end he  recognizes the "obvious" rightness of the move:

<i><blockquote>Smith at times questions his decision to forgo licensing fees for MIDI, but ultimately comes back to the same conclusion. "It seemed like an obvious thing to do at the time," he says, "and in hindsight, I think it was the right thing to do." In the world of technology, that makes Smith a different kind of legendary.</blockquote></i>

Indeed: thanks to that far-sighted decision 30 years ago, he joins Berners-Lee as one of the true benefactors of humanity.  Let's hope that in the coming years there are many more with vision enough to join them.
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:57:13 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Disappointing: Tim Berners-Lee Defends DRM In HTML 5</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently wrote about the truly stupid idea of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130129/09264821815/truly-stupid-ideas-adding-drm-to-html5.shtml">building DRM into HTML5</a>.  At SXSW this week, web inventor Tim Berners-Lee was asked about this, and he surprisingly <a href="http://boingboing.net/2013/03/10/tim-berners-lee-the-web-needs.html" target="_blank">defended the decision</a>, claiming that it was necessary to get companies to use HTML5:
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During a post-talk Q&#038;A, he defended proposals to add support for "digital rights management" usage restrictions to HTML5 as necessary to get more content on the open Web: "If we don't put the hooks for the use of DRM in, people will just go back to using Flash," he claimed. 
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Berners-Lee is so good on so many issues (most of his talk seemed to be about the importance of openness) that this response really stands out as not fitting with his general view of the world.  Cory Doctorow has <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2013/mar/12/tim-berners-lee-drm-cory-doctorow" target="_blank">responded eloquently to TBL</a>, explaining why he should be against the DRM proposal.
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What's more, DRM is wholly ineffective at preventing copying. I suspect Berners-Lee knows this. When geeks downplay fears over DRM, they often say things like: "Well, I can get around it, and anyway, they'll come to their senses soon enough, since it doesn't work, right?" Whenever Berners-Lee tells the story of the Web's inception, he stresses that he was able to invent the Web without getting any permission. He uses this as a parable to explain the importance of an open and neutral Internet. But what he fails to understand is that DRM's entire purpose is to require permission to innovate.
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For limiting copying is only the superficial reason for adding DRM to a technology. DRM fails completely at preventing copying, but it is brilliant at preventing innovation. That's because DRM is backstopped by anti-circumvention laws like the notorious US Digital Millennium
Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA) and the EU Copyright Directive of 2002 (EUCD), both of which make it a crime to compromise DRM, even if you're not breaking any other laws. Effectively, this means that you have to get permission from a DRM licensing authority to add any features, since all new features require removing DRM, and the DRM license terms prohibit adding any features not in the original agreement, and omitting any of the mandatory restrictions featured in that agreement.
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Doctorow makes two other key points in this: (1) that the W3C (the standards setting body for HTML5) has an enormous role in keeping the web free and open -- and imposing DRM is abusing the trust it has built up and will backfire badly and (2) that the big content players who insist they "need" DRM are bluffing.
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As the leading standards-setting body for the Web, the W3C has an enormous, sacred and significant trust. The future of the Web is the future of the world, because everything we do today involves the net and everything we'll do tomorrow will require it. Now it proposes to sell out that trust, on the grounds that Big Content will lock up its "content" in Flash if it doesn't get a veto over Web-innovation. That threat is a familiar one: the big studios promised to boycott US digital TV unless it got mandatory DRM. The US courts denied them this boon, and yet, digital TV continues (if only Ofcom and the BBC had heeded this example before they sold Britain out to the US studios on our own high-def digital TV standards).
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Flash is already an also-ran. As Berners-Lee himself will tell you, the presence of open platforms where innovation requires no permission is the best way to entice the world to your door. The open Web creates and supplies so much value that everyone has come to it &#8211; leaving behind the controlled, Flash-like environs of AOL and other failed systems. The big studios need the Web more than the Web needs big studios.
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The Big Content guys have been seeking to remake the web in their image (i.e., "TV") for over a decade now, still believing that <i>they're</i> the main reason people get online.  They're not.  There's room for them within the ecosystem, but professional broadcast-quality content is just a part of the system, not the whole thing. If the world moves to HTML5 without DRM, the content guys will whine about it... and then follow.  Especially as the more knowledgeable and forward-looking content creators jump in and succeed.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130313/03554322310/disappointing-tim-berners-lee-defends-drm-html-5.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130313/03554322310/disappointing-tim-berners-lee-defends-drm-html-5.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130313/03554322310/disappointing-tim-berners-lee-defends-drm-html-5.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:14:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>When The Creators Of Both The Internet And The Web Come Out Against The ITU, Shouldn't You Too?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been talking a lot about the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=itu">ITU</a> and its <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=wcit">WCIT</a> (World Conference on International Telecommunications) lately, given the importance of various proposals on the future of the internet.  While Vint Cerf, often considered the "father of the internet" for his early (and continued!) contributions to the core of the internet, has been <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/keep-internet-free-and-open.html" target="_blank">quite outspoken</a> for many months about the threats of the ITU towards the internet, now we can add the creator of the World Wide Web to the list as well.  Tim Berners-Lee has <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20594779" target="_blank">spoken out against the ITU efforts at WCIT</a>.
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Sir Tim is director of a standards body himself - the World Wide Web Consortium. He said that governments can already influence changes but should resist further interference.
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"I think it's important that these existing structures continue to be used without any attempt to bypass them," he said.
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"These organisations have been around for a number of years and I think it would be a disruptive threat to the stability of the system for people to try to set up alternative organisations to do the standards."
Accelerating access
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[...] "A lot of concerns I've heard from people have been that, in fact, countries that want to be able to block the internet and give people within their country a 'secure' view of what's out there would use a treaty at the ITU as a mechanism to do that, and force other countries to fall into line with the blockages that they wanted to put in place."
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When the fathers of both the internet itself and the World Wide Web are both speaking out against the ITU's efforts to have further control over the future of the internet, isn't it time to step back and ask what benefit the ITU would really provide.  To date, none has been shown.  Instead, we get vague talk about increasing "fairness" by <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120907/11061720310/eu-telcos-to-un-regulators-divert-more-money-our-way-no-ones-internet-gets-hurt.shtml">diverting</a> money from innovators to telcos who haven't innovated with the promise that this will lead to greater investment.  Yet, the evidence suggests that this <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121201/02022121196/why-itus-plans-to-divert-money-to-lazy-telcos-will-slow-internet-buildout-not-increase-it.shtml">doesn't work</a>, and historically, such transfers and subsidies tend to be pocketed by execs (or governments) rather than invested in infrastructure.
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So, here we have two of the most visionary innovators out there -- who created the key platforms we rely on -- highlighting how the ITU process is the exact wrong way to go about things.  Combine that with the key argument being made by the ITU being unsupportable based on history.  And shouldn't we all be wondering why this big charade is happening in the first place?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121204/18034921228/when-creators-both-internet-web-come-out-against-itu-shouldnt-you-too.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121204/18034921228/when-creators-both-internet-web-come-out-against-itu-shouldnt-you-too.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121204/18034921228/when-creators-both-internet-web-come-out-against-itu-shouldnt-you-too.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:40:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>NBC: We Have No Clue Who Tim Berners-Lee Is, But Without Our Commentary, You Wouldn't Understand The Olympics</title>
<dc:creator>Tim Cushing</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Oh, NBC. You&#39;ve locked down the Olympics and made some <strike>serious</strike> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120727/15210819860/its-olympics-tradition-how-difficult-can-nbc-universal-make-it-to-enjoy-olympics.shtml" target="_blank">half-assed efforts</a> towards providing extensive coverage that takes advantage of the always-connected world and yet... you just can&#39;t help stepping in it on opening night.
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First of all, seriously? Tape delay to the West Coast? You lock down coverage in order to take advantage of prime time and try to pass it off as some sort of "value added" service. Pay no mind to all the twittering and live blogging willing to fill in the gaps, while you do some sort of production magic behind the scenes. Live events don&#39;t need windows and real life shouldn&#39;t need **spoiler** warnings.<br /><br />
Even worse is the fact that the opening ceremonies weren&#39;t even streamed live on the internet, where time and distance aren&#39;t factors. And you know it, too, because your official Twitter accounts were posting updates live, giving Americans the dusty old feeling that they&#39;re listening to a local broadcaster read off the ticker feed from a title match. So close, but so far.
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But us poor internet denizens.<a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120727/after-a-delay-opening-ceremonies-finally-hit-the-west-coast/" target="_blank"> If we weren&#39;t so damn stupid, we could be trusted with a live feed</a>. NBC&#39;s official statement:
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<i>"They [the opening ceremonies] are complex entertainment spectacles that do not translate well online because they require context, which our award-winning production team will provide for the large primetime audiences that gather together to watch them."</i>
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Translation: our advertisers have paid us a literal shit-tonne of money to have a large primetime audience delivered to them, so fold your hands in your lap and stare blankly at your television until the broadcast begins.
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I&#39;m no social media maven but I&#39;m pretty sure the internet does just fine adding "context" and is perfectly capable of "watching stuff" as it happens.  For example, they seem perfectly find adding context to the fact that your hosts <i>suck</i>, as aptly pointed out via this <a href="http://storify.com/jilliancyork/shut-up-matt-lauer" target="_blank">collection of tweets</a> asking Matt Lauer to shut up.
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 And what the hell is this about "expertise?" <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120727/nbcs-today-show-has-been-ignorant-about-tech-since-long-before-the-olympics/" target="_blank">Did you even hear your own anchors</a>?
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<i>As the London Olympic games honored World Wide Web creator Tim Berners-Lee, NBC hosts Meredith Viera and Matt Lauer admitted &mdash; almost bragged &mdash; that they didn&rsquo;t know who he was.</i>
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<i>It&rsquo;s a shame, because it took attention away from a pretty cool tribute to the history of tech and the way it has transformed modern life and communications. Text messages, status updates, photo sharing and smartphones all played a part.</i>
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<i>Indeed, every seat had an LED panel to create a stadium-wide megadisplay.</i>
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<i>&ldquo;One more thing I don&rsquo;t understand,&rdquo; Viera added.</i>
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<i>Evidently someone handed them a memo, because Viera was able to correctly identify Berners-Lee several minutes later, as he typed out a message (on a NeXT cube) that was shown on that oh-so-confusing LED screen</i>.
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[There&#39;s <a href="http://ethanklapper.tumblr.com/post/28164455886/meredith-vieira-doesnt-know-who-tim-berners-lee" target="_blank">video here</a> of the ignorance if you&#39;re so inclined. Obviously, NBC would rather you not relive this moment over and over so it&#39;s tucked away in someone&#39;s Tumblr and not embeddable.]
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The inventor of the world wide web, Tim Berners-Lee, without whom a lot of this stuff you&#39;re botching wouldn&#39;t even be possible, makes an appearance and your talking heads act almost triumphant they&#39;ve never heard of him. What the hell? Was <a href="http://jezebel.com/5921011/write-something-nice-aaron-sorkin-tells-internet-girl-reporter" target="_blank">Aaron Sorkin</a> writing the cue cards?
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There&#39;s "seizing the moment" and then there&#39;s "closing your eyes and sticking one arm out," hoping the moment trips over you on its way to the goal line. You&#39;re the placekickers of "complex entertainment spectacles."
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On the bright side, I would imagine there&#39;s nowhere to go but up from the Opening Ceremonies. But I&#39;m sure you&#39;ve still got a few gaffes up your sleeve, especially if you stick with your "adding context with ignorant commentary" plan.&nbsp;
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[Oh, never mind. <a href="https://twitter.com/VivianSchiller/status/229382360368562176" target="_blank">It&#39;s happened already</a>.]
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p>+1 @<a href="https://twitter.com/jonathanwald">jonathanwald</a> the medal for most Olympic whining goes to everyone complaining about what happens every 4 yrs, tape delay @<a href="https://twitter.com/brianstelter">brianstelter</a></p>&mdash; Vivian Schiller (@VivianSchiller) <a href="https://twitter.com/VivianSchiller/status/229382360368562176" data-datetime="2012-07-29T01:06:31+00:00">July 29, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<title>Tim Berners-Lee Says UK's Net Spying Plans Would Be 'Destruction Of Human Rights'</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Not content with <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/12285718511/first-analysis-web-vague-exciting.shtml">inventing the Web</a> and then giving it away, Tim Berners-Lee remains highly active in <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/timberners_lee/status/191512268381491202">warning about the threats</a> the Internet and its users face.  Most recently he has <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/17/tim-berners-lee-monitoring-internet">taken on the British government's disproportionate plans</a> to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/03513918404/just-because-its-now-cheaper-easier-to-spy-everyone-all-time-doesnt-mean-governments-should-do-it.shtml">store information</a> about every email sent and Web page visited in the UK:

<i><blockquote>Sir Tim Berners-Lee, who serves as an adviser to the government on how to make public data more accessible, says the extension of the state's surveillance powers would be a "destruction of human rights" and would make a huge amount of highly intimate information vulnerable to theft or release by corrupt officials. In an interview with the Guardian, Berners-Lee said: "The amount of control you have over somebody if you can monitor internet activity is amazing."</blockquote></i>

What's particularly useful about his latest intervention is not just the authority with which he speaks on this subject, but the specificity of his warning:

<i><blockquote>"The idea that we should routinely record information about people is obviously very dangerous. It means that there will be information around which could be stolen, which can be acquired through corrupt officials or corrupt operators, and [could be] used, for example, to blackmail people in the government or people in the military. We open ourselves out, if we store this information, to it being abused."</blockquote></i>

That is, even leaving aside concerns about crucially important issues such as privacy and total surveillance, the UK plans are an awful idea from a purely practical viewpoint: they will actually make the UK <b>less</b> safe for all the reasons that Berners-Lee lists.  Because of this fundamental flaw, he emphasizes:

<i><blockquote>"the most important thing to do is to stop the bill as it is at the moment"</blockquote></i>

Let's hope the UK government listens to its own adviser, at least.
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:59:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The First Analysis Of The Web: Vague, But Exciting</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It's pretty common knowledge that Tim Berners-Lee is credited as the inventor of the World Wide Web, which we all know and love today.  However, if you haven't ever done so, it's actually quite fun to read through <a href="http://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html" target="_blank">his original proposal for the web</a>, as a new way for managing information.  Here's a snippet:
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In providing a system for manipulating this sort of information, the hope would be to allow a pool of information to develop which could grow and evolve with the organisation and the projects it describes. For this to be possible, the method of storage must not place its own restraints on the information. This is why a "web" of notes with links (like references) between them is far more useful than a fixed hierarchical system. When describing a complex system, many people resort to diagrams with circles and arrows. Circles and arrows leave one free to describe the interrelationships between things in a way that tables, for example, do not. The system we need is like a diagram of circles and arrows, where circles and arrows can stand for anything.
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We can call the circles nodes, and the arrows links. Suppose each node is like a small note, summary article, or comment. I'm not over concerned here with whether it has text or graphics or both. Ideally, it represents or describes one particular person or object
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But perhaps even cooler, as pointed out to us by <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/mathewi/statuses/191337108252794880" target="_blank">Mathew Ingram</a>, is an image of <a href="http://info.cern.ch/Proposal.html" target="_blank">the <i>actual</i> physical copy</a> of the first version of this proposal that Berners-Lee gave his boss, Mike Sendall.  At the top of the cover Sendall scribbled, "Vague, but exciting."
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Amusingly, one could argue that description still applies -- and, in fact, is part of the reason why the web has been so phenomenally successful.  Its amazing openness may have been "vague" but it was also that vagueness and openness that not only made the web so exciting, but made it possible for the rest of the world to fill in details to make it do whatever people wanted.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/12285718511/first-analysis-web-vague-exciting.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/12285718511/first-analysis-web-vague-exciting.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/12285718511/first-analysis-web-vague-exciting.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:50:33 PST</pubDate>
<title>The Web Is Saved: East Texas Jury Says Eolas Patents Are Invalid</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Okay, that happened much faster than I expected.  Just a few hours ago, we wrote about Tim Berners-Lee telling an East Texas jury just how <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120209/05030017708/tim-berners-lee-court-to-try-to-prevent-patent-troll-eolas-patenting-key-web-concepts.shtml">insane</a> patent troll Eolas' patents were, along with their claims that all sorts of core web technologies were covered by their patents.  We thought it might take some time before anything really happened in that case, but the jury took just a short while before <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/interactive-web-patent/" target="_blank">completely invalidating Eolas' patents</a>.  Damn!  Apparently the jury recognized that when the inventor of the web talks about how obvious a technology was at the time, he <i>probably</i> knows what he's talking about.
<br /><br />
I wonder just how silly the long list of companies who "settled" with Eolas before the trial started feel right now.
<br /><br />
Of course, all of that settlement money means that Eolas still has a big bank account.  That means it'll appeal this ruling, and the case may still go on for a few years.  But it's going to have to clear a big hurdle, and in the meantime it won't be able to sue anyone else using these patents.  Score one for obviousness and a jury that recognized a patent troll trying to put up an innovation toll booth to try to demand loads of cash it didn't deserve.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120209/15395117718/web-is-saved-east-texas-jury-says-eolas-patents-are-invalid.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120209/15395117718/web-is-saved-east-texas-jury-says-eolas-patents-are-invalid.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120209/15395117718/web-is-saved-east-texas-jury-says-eolas-patents-are-invalid.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:58:07 PST</pubDate>
<title>Tim Berners-Lee In Court To Try To Prevent Patent Troll Eolas From Patenting Key Web Concepts</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember Eolas?  We've written about this infamous patent troll <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?cx=partner-pub-4050006937094082%3Acx0qff-dnm1&#038;cof=FORID%3A9&#038;ie=ISO-8859-1&#038;q=eolas">many times</a>, mostly focusing on its big patent fight with Microsoft over the idea of browser plugins -- a case it eventually settled.  In 2009, however, Eolas came back and basically <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091006/1718536434.shtml">sued the web</a>, claiming that all sorts of very basic web technologies were, in fact, infringing on a brand new, ridiculously broad patent (built on the earlier patent), <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PTXT&#038;s1=7,599,985.PN.&#038;OS=PN/7,599,985&#038;RS=PN/7,599,985" target="_blank">7,599,985</a>.
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However, that case has finally gone to trial, and Wired has sent Joe Mullin -- hands down <i>the</i> best reporter on all things concerning patents -- to cover the case.  His initial report is <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/patent-troll-trial/" target="_blank">worth reading</a>.  Unfortunately, he notes that many of the companies Eolas sued chose to settle, helping to fund Eolas' ability to take this to court.  Eight companies remain fighting.  Eolas is asking for $600 million from these companies -- including over $300 million from Google and Yahoo.
<br /><br />
As he had done <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20031029/0917233.shtml">nearly a decade ago</a>, web inventor Tim Berners-Lee was <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/tim-berners-lee-patent/" target="_blank">called to explain to the court</a> that Eolas' claims are ridiculous and the patents should be tossed out due to tremendous amounts of prior art.  Berners-Lee also pointed out that these patents "could be a serious threat to the future of the web."  He didn't mince words, noting that all of this stuff was widely known in the community of technologists working on these issues well before Eolas ever came along.
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Last summer there was tremendous attention paid to the problem of patents within the tech space, but much of that furor died down after the patent reform bill became law -- even though it addressed almost none of the actual complaints about how the patent system hinders innovation.  Once fall came, a lot of focus shifted back to copyright issues around SOPA.  But people should be <i>very, very</i> worried about the outcome of this case, because if it goes badly, it could lead to a massive tollbooth on internet innovation.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120209/05030017708/tim-berners-lee-court-to-try-to-prevent-patent-troll-eolas-patenting-key-web-concepts.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120209/05030017708/tim-berners-lee-court-to-try-to-prevent-patent-troll-eolas-patenting-key-web-concepts.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120209/05030017708/tim-berners-lee-court-to-try-to-prevent-patent-troll-eolas-patenting-key-web-concepts.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:52:41 PST</pubDate>
<title>What Do MC Hammer &#038; Tim Berners-Lee Have In Common? They Both Hate SOPA/PIPA</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As SOPA/PIPA supporters continue to insist that there's either no anti-SOPA/PIPA sentiment, or that it's just coming from Google, every day we see more and more evidence that that's changing.  Let's start with Tim Berners-Lee -- the inventor of the web.  And he's now <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/timberners_lee/status/156391382938951681" target="_blank">come out against SOPA/PIPA</a>.  Then we've got MC Hammer, the rapper-turned-entrepreneur, who has been telling his 2.5 million Twitter followers <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/MCHammer/status/156681982389133314" target="_blank">to protest SOPA as well</a>, noting that it would be <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/MCHammer/status/156781813363245057" target="_blank">"a terrible bill</a> for writers, vloggers, artists, and musicians."  Indeed.  That's part of this debate that often gets overlooked. The big old gatekeepers like to pretend this is about helping the artists, but plenty of artists -- including Hammer -- recognize that what helps them is an open internet on which it's easy to build new platforms and services.  A locked down internet, where liability and expensive compliance costs are dumped on innovative companies won't help artists at all.  Instead, it will sink innovation by making it too risky.  Either way, when you have such a diverse group of folks all coming out against the bill, how much longer can SOPA/PIPA supporters pretend there aren't any criticisms of the bill?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120111/02365817373/what-do-mc-hammer-tim-berners-lee-have-common-they-both-hate-sopapipa.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120111/02365817373/what-do-mc-hammer-tim-berners-lee-have-common-they-both-hate-sopapipa.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120111/02365817373/what-do-mc-hammer-tim-berners-lee-have-common-they-both-hate-sopapipa.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:02:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>What If Tim Berners-Lee Had Patented The Web?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may have seen the stories a week or so ago about how it was the <a href="http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/08/world-wide-web-20-years/" target="_blank">20th anniversary of Tim Berners-Lee putting up the first web page</a>.  While many, many people still confuse "the web" with "the internet," Berners-Lee's creation really did help take what was mostly a system used by a few nerds (myself include) and add the elements that made it possible to go mainstream in a big, big, big way.  And while many folks are talking about just how amazingly far we've come in just 20 years, Marco Arment (the InstaPaper guy) reminds us that if Berners-Lee had sought and received a patent for the web, <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/marcoarment/status/99869808748789760" target="_blank">it would just now be coming out of patent coverage</a>.
<br /><br />
That sets up an interesting thought experiment.  Where do you think the world would be today if the World Wide Web had been patented?  Here are a few guesses:
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<li>Rather than an open World Wide Web, most people would have remained on proprietary, walled gardens, like AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy and Delphi.  While those might have eventually run afoul of the patents, since they were large companies or backed by large companies, those would have been the few willing to pay the licensing fee.
</li><li>The innovation level in terms of the web would have been drastically limited.  Concepts like AJAX, real time info, etc. would not be present or would be in their infancy.  The only companies "innovating" on these issues would be those few large players, and they wouldn't even think of the value of such things.
</li><li>No Google.  Search would be dismal, and limited to only the proprietary system you were on.
</li><li>Most people's use of online services would be more about "consumption" than "communication."  There would still be chat rooms and such, but there wouldn't be massive public communication developments like blogs and Twitter.  There might be some social networking elements, but they would be very rudimentary within the walled garden.
</li><li>No iPhone.  While some might see this as separate from the web, I disagree.  I don't think we'd see quite the same interest or rise in smartphones without the web.  Would we see limited proprietary "AOL phones?"  Possibly, but with a fragmented market and not as much value, I doubt there's the necessary ecosystem to go as far as the iPhone.
</li><li>Open internet limited by lawsuit.  There would still be an open internet, and things like gopher and Usenet would have grown and been able to do a little innovation.  However, if gopher tried to expand to be more web like, we would have seen a legal fight that not only delayed innovation, but limited the arenas in which we innovated.
</li></ul>
What else do people think might have happened?  I'd also argue that Berners-Lee himself would hardly be a name that most people knew about.  When you think about just how limiting a world this would have been compared to what we have today... and then begin to wonder about what "web-like" invention of today is now locked up under patents, it really makes you wonder just how much we've held back innovation in this arena.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110811/10245715476/what-if-tim-berners-lee-had-patented-web.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110811/10245715476/what-if-tim-berners-lee-had-patented-web.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110811/10245715476/what-if-tim-berners-lee-had-patented-web.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:58:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>20 Years Ago Today: The Web Was Proposed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ If you want to realize just how amazing the level of progress has been with the internet, realize this: it was just 20 years ago, today, that <a href="http://www.w3.org/Proposal.html" target="_blank">Tim Berners-Lee proposed the web</a>:
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HyperText is a way to link and access information of various kinds as a web of nodes in which the user can browse at will. It provides a single user-interface to large classes of information (reports, notes, data-bases, computer documentation and on-line help). We propose a simple scheme incorporating servers already available at CERN.
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The project has two phases: firstly we make use of existing software and hardware as well as implementing simple browsers for the user's workstations, based on an analysis of the requirements for information access needs by experiments. Secondly, we extend the application area by also allowing the users to add new material.
<br /><br />
Phase one should take 3 months with the full manpower complement, phase two a further 3 months, but this phase is more open-ended, and a review of needs and wishes will be incorporated into it.
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The manpower required is 4 software engineers and a programmer, (one of which could be a Fellow). Each person works on a specific part (eg. specific platform support).
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Each person will require a state-of-the-art workstation , but there must be one of each of the supported types. These will cost from 10 to 20k each, totalling 50k. In addition, we would like to use commercially available software as much as possible, and foresee an expense of 30k during development for one-user licences, visits to existing installations and consultancy.
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Quite amazing what that one, quite small, project has since become.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101112/10293011833/20-years-ago-today-the-web-was-proposed.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101112/10293011833/20-years-ago-today-the-web-was-proposed.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101112/10293011833/20-years-ago-today-the-web-was-proposed.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:14:40 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Tim Berners-Lee Comes Out Against COICA Censorship Bill; Shouldn't You?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've already discussed what a dreadful bill the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100920/12460811083/us-senators-propose-bill-to-censor-any-sites-the-justice-depatement-declares-pirate-sites-worldwide.shtml">"Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act," (COICA) bill</a> would be.  It's an effort to censor the internet <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100922/03455311107/how-the-attempted-censorship-of-file-sharing-sites-avoids-due-process.shtml">without due process</a>.  As we recently discussed, similar laws in the past would have <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100925/12401911168/a-look-at-the-technologies-industries-senators-leahy-hatch-would-have-banned-in-the-past.shtml">banned</a> pretty much every new entertainment technology in the past century.
<br /><br />
And yet... this bill has a lot of political clout behind it and it's moving fast (even as the bill's main sponsors are <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/04000411090/patrick-leahy-against-internet-censorship-in-other-countries-but-all-for-it-at-home.shtml">speaking out against censorship</a> in other countries, they support it at home).  Unfortunately, there really hasn't been that much open discussion about the bill.  Supporters seem to think it's a foregone conclusion that it will pass, and it's moving quickly (it's schedule for a vote in committee this week).  Senators who are supporting the bill have claimed that <b>they've heard no objections to the bill</b>, despite the widespread discussions online about how problematic it is.
<br /><br />
As it moves forward, some people, who recognize the problems with it, are speaking out.  The EFF, for example, is looking for techies who have been involved in building the original internet's infrastructure to <a href="http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/2010/09/sort/time_rev/page/1/entry/0:67/20100927195854:2E073F06-CA93-11DF-800C-25E94A3287EA/" target="_blank">sign onto a protest letter</a>.  Separately, as part of an effort to get people to <a href="http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/?source=td" target="_blank">sign a petition against COICA</a>, World Wide Web creator Tim Berners-Lee has spoken out against COICA:
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"We all use the web now for all kinds of parts our lives, some trivial, some critical to our life as part of a social world," says Tim Berners-Lee, creator of the Web. "In the spirit going back to Magna Carta, we require a principle that: <b>No person or organization shall be deprived of their ability to connect to others at will without due process of law, with the presumption of innocence until found guilty.</b> Neither governments nor corporations should be allowed to use disconnection from the Internet as a way of arbitrarily furthering their own aims."
</i></blockquote>
I'm never sure how effective online petitions are, but no matter what, it's important to get the word out about this bill.  We should not stand for censorship in the US.  Apparently over 20,000 people signed the petition in the first day it was available, and it would be great to get a lot more involved.  This is bad and supremely dangerous legislation that has been fast-tracked, much to the delight of those who don't realize how destructive it would be.
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<title>Tim Berners-Lee Conned By Web Scam?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Tim Berners-Lee, who invented the web, has now admitted that he was <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/031709-web-inventor-berners-lee-conned.html?fsrc=netflash-rss" target="_new">recently conned out of some money by a "fake company" that he found online</a>, when searching for a place to buy some presents.  While some will leap to the conclusion that "something needs to be done!" when even the web's inventor can become a victim of fraud online, I don't see how it's really any different than traditional fraud.  People can and will get taken in by frauds.  It's what happens.  That the fraud happened online, or that it happened to the guy who invented the web hardly seems particularly meaningful here.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090317/1913024158.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090317/1913024158.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090317/1913024158.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:16:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The First Fifty Years Of The Internet</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/06/04/how_the_web_was.html">Paul Kedrosky</a> points us to an article in the latest issue of Vanity Fair <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/07/internet200807?printable=true&#038;currentPage=all" target="_new">recounting the first fifty years of the internet's history</a> by assembling a bunch of the people who were involved in different stages from conception right up until today, and getting them to talk about it.  As Kedrosky notes, there are a few small problems with it (most notably, it's very much history as written by the "winners" leaving out quite a bit and perhaps "enhancing" some stories a bit), but overall it's a fantastic and fun read full of great quotes.
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The more recent stuff in the article doesn't add much, but there's a great discussion of the early years, where there are even a few themes that may sound familiar around here -- including the idea that multiple people seem to come up with <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080507/0114581051.shtml">the same ideas</a> at the same time.  For example, the article notes that both Paul Baran and Donald Davies entirely independently came up with the idea of packet-switched networks, and one of Baran's quotes in the article is:
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"I get credit for a lot of things I didn't do. I just did a little piece on packet switching and I get blamed for the whole goddamned Internet, you know? Technology reaches a certain ripeness and the pieces are available and the need is there and the economics look good -- it's going to get invented by somebody."
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It's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy">Stigler's Law</a> all over again.
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Somewhat related to that is the interesting tidbit about how CERN originally wanted to patent the World Wide Web, until Tim Berners-Lee talked them out of it (as recounted by Robert Cailliau):
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"At one point CERN was toying with patenting the World Wide Web. I was talking about that with Tim one day, and he looked at me, and I could see that he wasn't enthusiastic. He said, Robert, do you want to be rich? I thought, Well, it helps, no? He apparently didn't care about that. What he cared about was to make sure that the thing would work, that it would just be there for everybody. He convinced me of that, and then I worked for about six months, very hard with the legal service, to make sure that CERN put the whole thing in the public domain."
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Imagine how different the world would be if the Web were patented early on?  It almost certainly would have massively stunted development.
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Also, amusingly, from multiple people early in the piece, AT&#038;T plays the roll of the clueless big company who wants nothing more than to kill the internet and keep its monopoly:
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<b>Paul Baran</b>: The one hurdle packet switching faced was AT&#038;T. They fought it tooth and nail at the beginning. They tried all sorts of things to stop it. They pretty much had a monopoly in all communications. And somebody from outside saying that there’s a better way to do it of course doesn’t make sense. They automatically assumed that we didn’t know what we were doing.
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<b>Bob Taylor</b>: Working with AT&#038;T would be like working with Cro-Magnon man. I asked them if they wanted to be early members so they could learn technology as we went along. They said no. I said, Well, why not? And they said, Because packet switching won't work. They were adamant. As a result, AT&#038;T missed out on the whole early networking experience.
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<b>Bob Kahn</b>: Let me put it into perspective. So here we are when there are very few time-sharing systems anywhere in the world. AT&#038;T probably said, Look, maybe we would have 50 or a hundred organizations, maybe a few hundred organizations, that could possibly partake of this in any reasonable time frame. Remember, the personal computer hadn't been invented yet. So, you had to have these big expensive mainframes in order to do anything. They said, There's no business there, and why should we waste our time until we can see that there's a business opportunity?
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<b>Bob Metcalfe</b>: Imagine a bearded grad student being handed a dozen AT&#038;T executives, all in pin-striped suits and quite a bit older and cooler. And I'm giving them a tour. And when I say a tour, they're standing behind me while I'm typing on one of these terminals. I'm traveling around the Arpanet showing them: Ooh, look. You can do this. And I'm in U.C.L.A. in Los Angeles now. And now I'm in San Francisco. And now I'm in Chicago. And now I'm in Cambridge, Massachusetts -- isn't this cool? And as I'm giving my demo, the damned thing crashed.
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And I turned around to look at these 10, 12 AT&#038;T suits, and they were all laughing. And it was in that moment that AT&#038;T became my bete noire, because I realized in that moment that these sons of bitches were rooting against me.
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AT&#038;T trying to kill the internet, not seeing the business opportunity and insisting things could never work (when they obviously did)?  That all sounds mighty familiar...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080604/0337001308.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080604/0337001308.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080604/0337001308.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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