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<pubDate>Fri, 5 Jun 2009 06:00:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>eBay Finally Realizes That No One Is Interested In Voice Communication With Others During An Online Auction</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ When eBay first <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050912/0312203.shtml">bought Skype</a> we were among the many, many, many people left scratching their heads wondering where the supposed "synergies" were.  We were told two things.  First, that Skype had many users in China who would now suddenly start using eBay for auctions.  Why?  No one knows.  In reality it had almost no effect.  Just because you make calls via a software program it doesn't make you any more interested in doing online auctions through its parent company, apparently.  Second, it would now allow buyers and sellers to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20060614/104538.shtml">communicate by voice</a>.  But why would they want to?  Sure, maybe in a very rare case it might be helpful, but one of the <i>advantages</i> of an online auction system like eBay is that you <i>don't</i> need to actually talk to the other party.  And if it was that important to talk, the buyer and seller could just agree to use Skype on their own without eBay spending billions.  And, in fact, studies showed that this "feature" <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20051202/0214254.shtml">wasn't wanted</a> by most eBay users.
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But, still, in an effort to show that there really (no, really, really!) were some synergies, eBay integrated Skype into online auctions.  Of course, now that eBay has finally admitted that there really were no synergies, taken a huge writedown on the investment and is looking to spin off Skype, the company is <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/03/ebay-starts-stripping-skype-voice-and-chat-buttons-from-auction-listings/" target="_new">finally removing the integrated Skype buttons on auctions</a>, and are even admitting that the company is involved "in an effort to remove features with limited buyer and seller usage."  Was it really that hard to recognize how little synergies there were before spending multiple billions of dollars?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090604/0735435129.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090604/0735435129.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090604/0735435129.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>about-time</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:37:53 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Synergies?  Fox News Skips Fox's Own Social Network For Facebook</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080818/0206202003.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While we do believe that there can be so-called "synergies" in various mergers and acquisitions, it often does seem as though companies over state what those benefits may be.  Take, for example, the news that TV channel Fox News has <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/business/media/18fox.html?_r=1&#038;partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss&#038;oref=slogin" target="_new">set up shop on Facebook</a>, rather than the social network's main competitor, MySpace.  MySpace just so happens to be owned by Fox -- so it may seem odd that Fox News chose to go with Facebook rather than sister company MySpace.  Basically, it appears that Fox News recognized that it was more likely to find an audience on Facebook than MySpace. This highlights just how silly some expected "synergies" often turn out to be.  While many may have expected that the close relationship between Fox News and MySpace would mean that there's some advantage to both organizations to work together, the truth was the opposite. If Fox News had gone with MySpace instead, due to "synergies," (i.e., management mandates that those two companies work together) the end effect would have been worse.  Fox News would have gone with the social network that didn't fit as well -- just to please management.  So, rather than a "benefit" the so-called synergy would have been a net negative.  In other words, the so-called "synergies" wouldn't actually have been... well... synergistic.  The end result shows why so many mergers over so-called "synergies" don't really make much sense.  If there's true synergy between the separate organizations, then they can work together as partners, rather than from within the same company.  Otherwise, you get a situation where you may be locked in to a partner who is not as good as one outside your organization.  (Post updated to clarify).<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080818/0206202003.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080818/0206202003.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080818/0206202003.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>synergies-don't-mean-much</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:21:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is Google's Proprietary Tech Stack Destroying Its Acquisitions?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080717/2255221720.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While Google has bought plenty of small startups, almost none of those deals have amounted to very much.  It almost seems like most of the startups disappear into Google forever.  There are a few exceptions such as YouTube and (maybe) Writely.  But the list of startups that have simply languished or died is much longer.  TechCrunchIT is running an interesting post that suggests one of the key reasons: <a href="http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/07/16/google-where-companies-go-to-die/" target="_new">Google's proprietary tech stack</a>.  While Google is a big open source supporter for lower level infrastructure, once you get above that -- it's very much a strong believer in doing everything its own way.  I've heard from friends at Google about the difficulty they've had learning to deal with Google's tech stack -- and certainly have heard how it's slowed down the progress of some Google acquisitions while they learn how to "transition."
<br /><br />
In fact, some have pointed out that this is one of the side benefits to Google's AppEngine <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080407/225749782.shtml">offering</a>.  Since it exposes some of Google's tech stack to folks for them to develop and run their applications, it will make it <i>much</i> easier to integrate them into Google at a later date.  So, for startups whose strategy is to get acquired by Google (and, I should note, if you start with that strategy, you're probably going to fail), it may make sense to develop on AppEngine just because you're already signaling to Google that the integration costs are significantly lower.
<br /><br />
Still, this highlights one of the major downsides to Google's belief that it can do everything much better than everyone else by starting from scratch: in doing so, it actually makes it much harder to capitalize on synergies from many acquisition targets.  Yes, there are reasons to go against the "standard" way of doing things, but there are significant costs as well.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080717/2255221720.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080717/2255221720.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080717/2255221720.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>not-invented-at-Google-syndrome</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:03:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Do Big Tech Acquisitions Ever Work Out?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080713/1709131662.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ With the positively yawn-inducing news over the weekend that Yahoo had <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9299">rejected</a> yet another offer from Microsoft, Joel West is reminding people that <a href="http://blog.openitstrategies.com/2008/07/yet-another-stupid-acquisition.html" target="_new">big acquisitions almost never make sense</a> and very often destroy value.  As an example, he points to the news that AMD is writing down $880 million on its acquisition of ATI only 8 months after it already <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071213/002803.shtml">wrote down</a> $1.6 billion.  That's $2.5 billion wiped out in a very short period of time.  As West notes, small acquisitions can make sense for small companies, at least in allowing their founders to cash out -- but for big companies it's usually more about ego: helping them move up the Fortune 500.  But those deals almost never work out:
<blockquote><i>
The fundamental problem of acquiring public companies is that you have to pay more than the market price -- so the claim is either you know better than the market (never true) or that you will realize synergies that increase the value of the acquired company (almost never true). So the choice is between buying overpriced good companies, or troubled companies not worth buying at any price. Acquiring a troubled company means you acquire their troubles -- whether it's exposure to an industry past its peak (AOL Time Warner, Viacom-Blockbuster) or a company with a justifiably lousy market position (Daimler Chrysler).
</i></blockquote>
The other aspect that he doesn't touch on is that with big companies, there are always investment bankers crawling all over management trying to convince them to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071005/133253.shtml">buy up other companies</a> one week, and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060110/0130225_F.shtml">sell off pieces</a> the next.  This "buy 'em up, sell 'em off" strategy almost never works for anyone but the investment bankers who take their fees both coming and going.  So as the silly battle continues around Microsoft and Yahoo, rest assure that pretty much whatever happens, you can expect to see a destruction in value rather than any "synergies" revealed.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080713/1709131662.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080713/1709131662.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080713/1709131662.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>destruction-of-value</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:13:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>So Much For Those Synergies Between Time Warner Cable And AOL, Huh?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080430/185107988.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While the AOL/Time Warner merger has gone down in the record books as one of the <a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/21041-ten-worst-internet-acquisitions-ever">worst mergers ever</a>, I still contend that it could have gone much better if <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050113/0113204.shtml">stronger management</a> had been in place.  Most specifically, there were obvious synergies between aspects of Time Warner and AOL -- but petty squabbles and turf wars kept most of those synergies from being realized.  The most glaring and obvious of these was Time Warner Cable (or RoadRunner) and AOL.  Both offered internet access, and it seemed perfectly reasonable to merge the two properties, and use RoadRunner to upgrade all those dialup users onto broadband, and then keep them engaged with all the Time Warner content.  Of course, the Time Warner content people freaked out about content on the internet of course, so that would never have worked -- but the failure to link up RoadRunner and AOL never made any sense.
<br /><br />
In fact, the two services began <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20030212/0058253.shtml">aggressively competing</a> with each other.  Then, after three years, someone finally realized that maybe the two should work together and made an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20040422/107243.shtml">announcement</a> saying so.  Of course... an announcement without action is worthless.  So, another year goes by and another exec trots out with an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050131/0939220_F.shtml">announcement</a> that the two divisions will work closely again.  And again... nothing.  Give it almost another year... and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050616/0938233.shtml">yet another announcement</a>.  Sense a pattern?  In the end, the two groups never actually did combine, and with today's announcement that <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9932113-7.html" target="_new">Time Warner is selling off the cable business entirely</a>, it just puts an exclamation point on all these years of keeping the two businesses separate.  Of course, in selling off Time Warner Cable, it will also likely lead to speculation that the company will sell off AOL (or merge it with Yahoo -- remember <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080409/200751806.shtml">that plan</a>?) as well -- though, as an entirely separate entity.
<br /><br />
While I tend to be skeptical of mergers based on vague "synergies," it's still rather amazing that in all this time, no one at Time Warner ever got these two divisions together -- and now the company may end up selling each off separately.  In the end, this was a deal that only worked out for the investment bankers.  Remember, they love to convince companies to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060110/0130225_F.shtml">consolidate</a> one year and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071005/133253.shtml">diversify</a> the next -- because they make money on both transactions.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080430/185107988.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080430/185107988.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080430/185107988.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>nice-work,-guys</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:11:33 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Then Again, eBay Claims It's Still Hunting For Skype Synergies</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080417/181944880.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Just a month ago, the guy in charge of Skype finally admitted that eBay had <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080313/005301524.shtml">given up</a> trying to find the mythical "synergies" between eBay and Skype as the few they had suggested turned out not to exist.  Apparently, Skype's GM isn't on the same page as his boss, eBay CEO John Donahoe.  He was just quoted saying that <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-ebay-ceo-skype-could-be-sold-if-synergies-fail/" target="_new">eBay will spend this year trying to find synergies with Skype</a> and if it still can't find any, it may sell off or spinoff the unit.  Given the lack of synergies so far and the massive <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071001/105737.shtml">write down</a> on the purchase price, you have to figure they're going to be digging pretty deep to turn up any kind of synergy between Skype and eBay.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080417/181944880.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080417/181944880.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080417/181944880.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>there-must-be-a-pony-in-there-somewhere</slash:department>
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