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<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 12:07:47 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The War On Journalists: DOJ Claimed Fox News Reporter Was An 'Aider, Abettor, Co-Conspirator' With Leaker</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/11200723149/war-journalists-doj-claimed-fox-news-reporter-was-aider-abettor-co-conspirator-with-leaker.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Following the DOJ's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130513/15401423065/doj-unconcerned-about-constitution-obtained-ap-reporters-phone-records.shtml">brazen</a> collection of info on AP reporter phone calls, we noted that it was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130514/01190323076/dojs-history-ignoring-rules-when-getting-phone-records-journalists.shtml">not the first time</a> the DOJ had been overly aggressive in going after reporters.  Now, the Washington Post has another horrifying story, talking about the DOJ's <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-rare-peek-into-a-justice-department-leak-probe/2013/05/19/0bc473de-be5e-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_print.html" target="_blank">investigation into a leak from the State Department to Fox News</a> concerning classified info on North Korea.  That investigation resulted in charges against Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a State Department security adviser, but the investigation included heavy surveillance of James Rosen, the Fox News reporter.  They obtained his phone records, security-badge data and <i>email exchanges</i>.  In order to get all this, they claimed that Rosen wasn't just a reporter, but <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/05/the-doj-versus-journalist-gmail.html" target="_blank">"an aider and abettor and/or co-conspirator"</a> in the crime itself.  For doing basic reporting.
<br /><br />
By now it should be abundantly clear that this has little to do with protecting national security, and everything to do with a war on investigative reporting about the federal government.  Almost everything seems to be designed to threaten reporters, and to put the fear of the federal government into any whistle blower who might have information to pass on to a reporter.  As people have pointed out, what Rosen did in this case is what <a href="https://twitter.com/normative/status/336535387424055296" target="_blank">any national security reporter does <b>all the time</b></a>.  Others have pointed out that this <a href="http://blogs.fas.org/secrecy/2013/05/kim-rosen-warrant/" target="_blank">shatters the basic concept</a> that those who report on the news are protected by the First Amendment in doing so.
<blockquote><i>
The Reyes affidavit all but eliminates the traditional distinction in classified leak investigations between sources, who are bound by a non-disclosure agreement, and reporters, who are protected by the First Amendment as long as they do not commit a crime.  (There is no allegation that Mr. Rosen bribed, threatened or coerced anyone to gain the disclosure of restricted information.)
</i></blockquote>
And, not surprisingly, this tactic of going to war with reporters <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/05/20/leak-investigations-are-indeed-having-a-chilling-effect/" target="_blank">appears to be working</a>.
<blockquote><i>
Mark Mazzetti, who covers national security for the New York Times &#8212; one of several leading investigative reporters I reached out to today &#8212; says he is experiencing a greater reluctance on the part of sources to talk to him.
<br /><br />
"There's no question that this has a chilling effect," Mazzetti said. "People who have talked in the past are less willing to talk now. Everyone is worried about communication and how to communicate, and [asking if there] is there any method of communication that is not being monitored. It's got people on both sides &#8212; the reporter and source side &#8212; pretty concerned."
</i></blockquote>
The end result, of course, is less ability to keep government abuses -- of which there appear to be many -- in check.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/11200723149/war-journalists-doj-claimed-fox-news-reporter-was-aider-abettor-co-conspirator-with-leaker.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/11200723149/war-journalists-doj-claimed-fox-news-reporter-was-aider-abettor-co-conspirator-with-leaker.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130520/11200723149/war-journalists-doj-claimed-fox-news-reporter-was-aider-abettor-co-conspirator-with-leaker.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:25:43 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Court Dumps Prenda's Subpoena</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/16365623113/court-dumps-prendas-subpoena.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may recall that Prenda had (not surprisingly) gone crazy overboard with <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/10090322242/prenda-law-issues-subpoena-ip-addresses-every-visitor-to-critic-blogs-past-two-years.shtml">subpoenas</a> in its attempt to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130303/23353022182/prenda-law-sues-critics-defamation.shtml">intimidate</a> some anti-copyright troll bloggers and their commenters.  The EFF stepped in and asked a court to quash the subpoena, which <a href="http://ia601701.us.archive.org/3/items/gov.uscourts.azd.774937/gov.uscourts.azd.774937.19.0.pdf" target="_blank">the court has now done</a>, in large part because Prenda never even bothered to respond.
<blockquote><i>
As
of this date, no responsive memorandum has been filed. LRCiv 7.2(i) provides in part &#8220;if the
opposing party does not serve and file the required answering memorandum, ...such
noncompliance may be deemed a consent to the denial or granting of the motion and the
Court may dispose of the motion summarily.&#8221; Pursuant to this rule, the Court deems
Plaintiff's failure to serve and file the required answering memorandum a consent to the
granting of Defendant-Movant's Motion to Quash the Subpoena to Wild West Domains
Seeking Identity Information.
</i></blockquote>
I guess Prenda's a bit busy.  Or someone there realized this subpoena had zero chance of actually going forward.  Either way, the subpoena is dead.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/16365623113/court-dumps-prendas-subpoena.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/16365623113/court-dumps-prendas-subpoena.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/16365623113/court-dumps-prendas-subpoena.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:42:19 PST</pubDate>
<title>Prenda Law Issues Subpoena For IP Addresses Of Every Visitor To Critic Blogs For The Past Two Years</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/10090322242/prenda-law-issues-subpoena-ip-addresses-every-visitor-to-critic-blogs-past-two-years.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ This is rather incredible.  We already wrote about Prenda Law's series of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130303/23353022182/prenda-law-sues-critics-defamation.shtml">defamation lawsuits</a> against commenters on two key blogs that have been instrumental in exposing their shenanigans: <a href="http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/" target="_blank">FightCopyrightTrolls</a> and <a href="http://dietrolldie.com/" target="_blank">DieTrollDie</a>.  While John Steele has <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130306/13202922219/john-steele-dismisses-his-defamation-lawsuit-against-alan-cooper-anonymous-internet-critics.shtml">dismissed</a> his claim, the other two suits are still moving forward as far as I know.  And now it's come out that Prenda Law's Paul Duffy <a href="http://dietrolldie.com/2013/03/07/battle-stations-prenda-law-sends-wordpress-an-overly-broad-subpoena-for-information-on-who-accessed-dtd-fct/" target="_blank">sent a ridiculously broad subpoena to Wordpress</a> demanding <i>every IP address of <b>every visitor</b> who has visited either site <b>since the beginning of 2011</b></i>.  Basically, they're looking for everyone who has ever visited either site:
<blockquote><i>
Our client is requesting all Internet Protocol addresses (including the date and time of that access in Universal Coordinated Time) that accessed the blogs located at dietrolldie.com and fightcopyrighttrolls.com between January 1, 2011 through the present.  Please provide this information in an Excel spreadsheet.
</i></blockquote>
The subpoena is from Paul Duffy, so it's a bit ridiculous to claim "our client" since <i>he is the client</i>.  This seems like a pretty clear abuse of the subpoena process, though, coming from Prenda Law, whose specialty is doing anything it possibly can to get IP addresses, perhaps it's no surprise.  The subpoena was issued in association with the original claim that was filed in state court.  The cases have all been removed to federal court, and hopefully the lawyers at Wordpress know better than to just cough up this info like that.  Even more ridiculously, Duffy tries to claim that this is an "emergency" so they shouldn't waste any time in handing over the info:
<blockquote><i>
Due to the emergency nature of the requested information, it is imperative that your organization responds to the subpoena immediately.  The requested information is perishable and vital to the claims asserted in a complaint alleging widespread and systematic defamation.
</i></blockquote>
What hogwash.  They're looking for data going back to January of 2011.  If Wordpress has logs going back that far, it's not like they're suddenly going to disappear.  And, of course, the "widespread and systematic defamation" claims are already pretty questionable.
<br /><br />
It's not difficult to look at this and see a likely attempt at creating chilling effects to try to scare people off from visiting those sites.  Considering that Prenda has been collecting all sorts of IP addresses in its various copyright trolling lawsuits, can you imagine what they might do if they can cross reference IP addresses of visitors to those sites with the IP addresses they've already sued over?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/10090322242/prenda-law-issues-subpoena-ip-addresses-every-visitor-to-critic-blogs-past-two-years.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/10090322242/prenda-law-issues-subpoena-ip-addresses-every-visitor-to-critic-blogs-past-two-years.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130307/10090322242/prenda-law-issues-subpoena-ip-addresses-every-visitor-to-critic-blogs-past-two-years.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 13:25:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge In Grooveshark Lawsuit Orders Blog To 'Preserve' Logs That Had Already Been Deleted</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120518/16072618978/judge-grooveshark-lawsuit-orders-blog-to-preserve-logs-that-had-already-been-deleted.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier this month, we noted a problematic attempt by Grooveshark's parent company, Escape Media, to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120501/02481418723/grooveshark-tries-to-force-digital-music-news-to-unveil-commenter-ignoring-first-amendment.shtml">subpoena information</a> on an anonymous commenter on the blog site Digital Music News.  As we noted at the time, Universal Music had referenced that comment in its lawsuit against Grooveshark.  It seemed bizarre to reference an anonymous comment, especially one that seemed like pure hearsay (it made claims about things Grooveshark employees had done).  In the lawsuit between UMG and Grooveshark it seemed completely pointless (and, indeed, Grooveshark has been arguing as much in that particular lawsuit).  Yet, at the same time, Grooveshark subpoenaed DMN in an attempt to find out who posted that comment.  DMN resisted the subpoena, noting that it discards and overwrites its log files every few days anyway, and these files had been long gone already.  It also pointed to California's shield law for journalists and the basic First Amendment protections for anonymous speech.
<br /><br />
Unfortunately, <a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2012/05/do-journalists-have-the-right-to-discard-identifying-data.html" target="_blank">the judge has ruled against Digital Music News</a>, and ordered it to produce the information.  The judge has indicated that he will not require this information during the appeal that DMN's lawyer indicated they would file... but did require "preservation" of the evidence during that time.  Beyond the shield law and First Amendment issues raised here (we'll get to those), this raises a very, very troubling proposition for any website that regularly overwrites its log files.  Escape Media had argued that even if DMN overwrote the log files, it should be required to hand over the information on the subpoena just in case the overwritten data was still available and could be recovered.
<br /><br />
So, what do you do in this situation?  Under the judge's order to "preserve" data that has already been deleted, what is a site to do?  Do they have to immediately stop using their existing hardware and set up an entire clone -- hanging onto all of the original hardware for who knows how long, just in case a forensics expert can find a tiny piece of (useless for this case anyway) data that has been overwritten probably a hundred times already?  That seems crazy.  Paul Levy, from Public Citizen, who is representing DMN on this issue, highlighted many of the issues in his blog post about this:
<blockquote><i>
The imposition of data preservation requirements on a journalist who is not a party to the litigation raises questions apart from the merits of the order. Journalists need to be able to discard data when they no longer have any of their own use for it.&nbsp; Yes, &#8220;the public has a claim to every man&#8217;s evidence,&#8221; but don&#8217;t members of the public who are not involved in litigation have the right to discard information despite the fact that it might turn out to be useful evidence for somebody else&#8217;s case?&nbsp; Does the public have a claim to heroic efforts on every man&#8217;s part?&nbsp; Shouldn&#8217;t there be higher standards for subpoenas demanding intrusive searches for discarded data in the hands of third parties? <br /><br />
The problem is compounded when it is a journalist that has been subpoenaed.&nbsp; To what extent does society have any entitlement to make journalists in particular take heroic measures, such as searching the nooks and crannies of their computer equipment for fragments of discarded data?&nbsp; The judge was sensitive to the fact that our client here is a journalist, telling Escape Media that he was not prepared to allow it to make any general search of Digital Music News&#8217; computers.&nbsp; But an issue that we may have to pursue on appeal is whether a journalist should ever have to undertake such drastic preservation efforts in aid of a lawsuit in which he is not involved, particularly given the relative unlikelihood that fragments of identifying data remain on his computers somewhere.
<p>Indeed, the problem is broader than just journalists.&nbsp; Companies often keep log files with respect to server visits (and hosted comments), but there is little business justification for keeping those logs forever; so generally speaking they are discarded after a period of time (<a href="https://www.eff.org/wp/osp" target="_blank">EFF's best practices recommendations</a> are worth a look in this regard).&nbsp; Does the mere act of discarding log files set a company up for the possibility of a demand for forensic examination of the underlying servers, in the hope that some fragment of the data might be recovered?&nbsp; In this regard, the trial court's order has chilling implications for other California companies, even beyond the issue of journalists.&nbsp; <br /><br />
Issues of how to preserve the data remain to be decided.&nbsp; This is not like just leaving one of your file cabinets untouched for a period of time; it is not even as easy as making sure you don't delete any of your email.&nbsp; Preserving the web site while creating a copy of the underlying servers is a complicated process, requiring the services of a forensic specialist, and the cost could be substantial.&nbsp; The estimates that we have been given are well into the five figures; but even the cost of several thousand dollars would be an enormous imposition on this small company.
</p></i></blockquote>
It really is quite a difficult issue, and if the ruling stands, could become a massive headache for any company in California.
<br /><br />
Separately, we should not ignore the First Amendment and shield law issues.  DMN is not a party in this case, and it's not even clear why this information is needed.  Escape/Grooveshark can and should point out that the information contained in the comment is pure hearsay so it shouldn't have to deal with it in the original case.  The company has not filed a defamation claim against the commenter and does not appear to have met the high bar required to unveil an anonymous commenter anyway.  This is a pretty big concern for any journalist or blogger out there.  Being dragged into a third party dispute because someone comments on your site can represent a pretty big problem for a lot of smaller sites.
<br /><br />
While Grooveshark's legal fight against the major labels certainly raises some interesting copyright questions, it's disappointing to see them going down this path and potentially creating serious problems not just for Digital Music News, but tons of journalists and websites.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120518/16072618978/judge-grooveshark-lawsuit-orders-blog-to-preserve-logs-that-had-already-been-deleted.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120518/16072618978/judge-grooveshark-lawsuit-orders-blog-to-preserve-logs-that-had-already-been-deleted.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120518/16072618978/judge-grooveshark-lawsuit-orders-blog-to-preserve-logs-that-had-already-been-deleted.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:09:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Sparkfun Explains Why It Provided Customer Info In Response To Subpoena</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/16412818852/sparkfun-explains-why-it-provided-customer-info-response-to-subpoena.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ When you receive an official law enforcement document/request, like a subpoena, it can actually be pretty scary.  An official-looking document from a court in association with law enforcement may leave many people with the impression that they absolutely have to comply.  While there are circumstances in which you do need to comply, you can often fight back.  Tragically, many companies don't.  They just roll over and hand over the info, even if it violates their own policies (and sense of right and wrong).  There are (unfortunately few and far between) cases like Twitter, who has shown a willingness to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120508/12234118833/twitter-challenges-court-ruling-that-twitter-users-have-no-standing-to-protect-their-own-account-info.shtml">fight</a> for user privacy, but it's still a tough issue for many companies.
<br /><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/#!/shawn_sims_/statuses/200364348730912769" target="_blank">Shawn Sims</a> points us to the interesting story of how the popular electronics company Sparkfun publicly <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/news/836" target="_blank">explained how it dealt with a very broad subpoena</a> demanding all sales information on sales made to addresses in Georgia over a six month period.  The reasoning was that a Sparkfun device was found as a part of a credit card skimmer device.
<center>
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<br />
Sparkfun CEO Nate Seidle explains that the subpoena came after an initial call requesting the same info, where the company politely refused to provide the info, noting its support of the privacy rights of its consumers.  As Seidle noted, no one supports card skimming, but there are issues of principle here:
<blockquote><i>
I want to be very clear: creating devices that steal credit card numbers are illegal and cause pain for a lot of people. We know our parts can be used for good or for evil. We have zero tolerance for those who use them for evil. I will offer our technical services to any law enforcement that may need help reverse engineering a device. It is obvious the law enforcement agency is requesting this information to put a stop to this activity. However, I also believe strongly in the right to privacy and the protection of personal data.
</i></blockquote>
After talking to their lawyers, and realizing that you <i>don't have to</i> fully comply with a subpoena -- but also that a subpoena can turn into a warrant which you do have to comply with -- the company worked with the law enforcement to try to limit the type of information requested, and eventually came to a compromise:
<blockquote><i>
<p>Please read the subpoena carefully. The request for 'all orders' seemed like they were casting a very wide net without cause. Discussing this issue with our counsel and working with the law enforcement agency, we agreed to obtain the orders that had the product on it, not all orders as required by the subpoena. This ended up being about 20 orders. In my opinion, one order is too much information. While I believe this legal process protects us all from wrong doing, turning over any piece of data goes against every fiber in my being. But without any further legal options, I made the decision to turn over the sub set of data.</p>
<p>
	I want everyone to know that we take your <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/static/privacy">data and privacy</a> extremely seriously. We guard it with the highest levels of security and confidentiality. If we are legally forced to turn over data, we promise you we will work with the law enforcement agency to do everything in our power to limit the amount of information released.</p>
</i></blockquote>
This is a tough position to be in -- and you can certainly argue that the company could have (or perhaps should have) continued to fight the subpoena.  But in the end, it's likely that it would have to turn over the info eventually no matter what.  At the very least, you have to respect the company for being <i>totally transparent and open</i> about what happened and why (and how Seidle personally felt).  Plenty of other companies would hand over the data and then never discuss the issue publicly <i>ever</i>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/16412818852/sparkfun-explains-why-it-provided-customer-info-response-to-subpoena.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/16412818852/sparkfun-explains-why-it-provided-customer-info-response-to-subpoena.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/16412818852/sparkfun-explains-why-it-provided-customer-info-response-to-subpoena.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 20:42:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Thank Twitter For Standing Up For User Rights</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120511/03203618877/thank-twitter-standing-up-user-rights.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently wrote about Twitter's decision to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120508/12234118833/twitter-challenges-court-ruling-that-twitter-users-have-no-standing-to-protect-their-own-account-info.shtml">stand up</a> for a user in court, fighting against a court ruling that said that a user has no proprietary interest in their own tweets and info, such that those users cannot contest a government attempt to subpoena information from Twitter.  This is not the first time that Twitter has aggressively stood up for its users' rights against government excess -- in a world where that's quite rare.  When the government comes calling, most companies roll right over.  In response to this, the folks over at Fight for the Future have put together a petition page, asking people to <a href="http://a.fightforthefuture.org/sign/thank_you_twitter" target="_blank">sign up to <i>thank</i> Twitter</a>.  If they get 50,000 people to sign, they'll present Twitter with a medal for defending the internet (these medals are <i>awesome</i>).
<br /><br />
Given that internet petitions are often done <i>in protest</i> of something or against something, I really like this idea of effectively getting people to sign on for something positive and celebrate a company that does its best to protect the interests of its users.  If you agree, head on over and sign up to thank Twitter.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120511/03203618877/thank-twitter-standing-up-user-rights.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120511/03203618877/thank-twitter-standing-up-user-rights.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120511/03203618877/thank-twitter-standing-up-user-rights.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 1 May 2012 14:40:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Grooveshark Tries To Force Digital Music News To Unveil Commenter, Ignoring First Amendment</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120501/02481418723/grooveshark-tries-to-force-digital-music-news-to-unveil-commenter-ignoring-first-amendment.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've covered <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110727/04461715279/lawsuits-against-grooveshark-continue-music-publishers-seek-to-redefine-dmca.shtml">parts</a> of the various lawsuits against Grooveshark by the recording industry.  I have no idea how those lawsuits are going to turn out, but a bit of a sideshow in one is touching on issues that are extremely important around here: the right to protect anonymous commenters, and shield laws protecting journalistic sources.   Last fall, in the latest effort by Universal Music against Grooveshark, the company quoted an anonymous comment <a href="http://digitalmusicnews.com/stories/101311cc" target="_blank">from a blog post</a> on the popular music industry blog, Digital Music News.  The comment claimed to be from an employee at Grooveshark, and reads (in part):
<blockquote><i>
I work for Grooveshark. Here is some information from the trenches:
<br /><br />
We are assigned a predetermined ammount of weekly uploads to the system and get a small extra bonus if we manage to go above that (not easy).The assignments are assumed as direct orders from the top to the bottom, we don't just volunteer to "enhance" the Grooveshark database.
<br /><br />
All search results are monitored and when something is tagged as "not available", it get's queued up to our lists for upload. You have to visualize the database in two general sections: "known" stuff and "undiscovered/indie/underground". The "known" stuff is taken care internally by uploads. Only for the "undiscovered" stuff are the users involved as explained in some posts above. Practically speaking, there is not much need for users to upload a major label album since we already take care of this on a daily basis.
</i></blockquote>
To be honest, when I saw the original filing mentioning this comment, I was pretty surprised that Universal would use it in the lawsuit.  After all, it's an <i>anonymous</i> comment on a blog.  It's pure hearsay, without any actual evidence that the commenter actually works at Grooveshark.  It's completely useless as evidence.
<br /><br />
Of course, you might think that Universal Music would then issue a subpoena to discover who the commenter was.  But... instead <i>Grooveshark</i> <a href="http://digitalmusicnews.com/uploads/dd/6f/dd6f4fa44e7567821645c3bb6376695b/032012Escape_Petition.pdf" target="_blank">issued a subpoena</a> (pdf and embedded below) seeking to identify the commenter.  This is also strange.  If UMG was able to identify the individual, then Grooveshark would find out that info.  But if (as appears to be the case so far) UMG does nothing, the claims by this individual are useless in the lawsuit anyway.
<br /><br />
Either way, Paul Resnikoff from Digital Music News worried about the subpoena, as DMN has a policy of not revealing its anonymous commenters (and often using them as sources).  So, he decided to push back, noting a few key points.  Public Citizen's Paul Levy recently agreed to represent Resnikoff in this matter and sent a letter to Grooveshark's parent company (embedded below) detailing why Grooveshark should stop barking up this particular tree.  Beyond the First Amendment issues, the right of a journalist to protect sources, and the uselessness of the original comment in the first place, there's also the simple fact that DMN doesn't retain comment logs for very long, and has no useful information in response to the subpoena anyway.
<br /><br />
That letter also highlights that Grooveshark is also interested in a much more recent comment on a blog post <a href="http://digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2012/120405grooveshark" target="_blank">about Grooveshark's subpoena</a>, in which a commenter (in a rather difficult to read manner) spins another conspiracy theory, suggesting that the original comment was a setup against Grooveshark by supporters of the lawsuit.  To be honest, this comment seems about as credible as the original comment that kicked this off.
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Whatever you might think of the Grooveshark lawsuit, this action by Grooveshark's lawyers seems like a mistake and overkill.  Not only is it unlikely to turn up anything useful, going on a fishing expedition against anonymous commenters on a blog opens up a huge host of problems around First Amendment issues, which it appears Grooveshark either failed to consider, or doesn't much care about.  That seems like a mistake.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120501/02481418723/grooveshark-tries-to-force-digital-music-news-to-unveil-commenter-ignoring-first-amendment.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120501/02481418723/grooveshark-tries-to-force-digital-music-news-to-unveil-commenter-ignoring-first-amendment.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120501/02481418723/grooveshark-tries-to-force-digital-music-news-to-unveil-commenter-ignoring-first-amendment.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 3 Jan 2012 12:17:49 PST</pubDate>
<title>Gov't Able To Keep Details Entirely Private In 'Public' Hearing Over Twitter Subpoena</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been hearing more and more stories about the government being extra secretive in so many things, avoiding scrutiny at every turn, and here's yet another example.  You may have heard that, last month, the Boston police, along with a Massachusetts ADA, sent a vague and broad <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/76393350/Subpoena-on-p0isAn0n-OccupyBoston-BostonPD-d0xcak3" target="_blank">subpoena</a> to Twitter, demanding "all available subscriber info... including address logs for account creations," for any activity between December 8th and December 13th, 2011 for the following list:
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<li>Guido Fawkes
</li><li>@p0isAn0N
</li><li>@OccupyBoston
</li><li>#BostonPD
</li><li>#d0xcak3
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This is kind of a weird list.  While the second and third items on the list are usernames, the rest are not, so it's not entirely clear what Twitter would need to send in response to those requests.  #BostonPD, in particular, is a bit weird, since it's just a tag.  It seems like the police are fishing for any info on anyone who used that hashtag over a five day period.
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Either way, the subpoena asks Twitter to keep the subpoena itself secret:
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In order to protect the confidentiality and integrity of the ongoing criminal investigation, this office asks that you not disclose the existence of this request to the subscriber as disclosure could impede the ongoing criminal investigation.
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However, it appears that Twitter did, in fact, forward the subpoena on to the user @p0isAn0N, who posted it publicly.  That resulted in the ACLU jumping on board to represent the anonymous user of that account and to protect the subpoena... leading to a <a href="http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/wtf-what-fawkes" target="_blank">bizarre and Kafkaesque hearing in which the case itself was never even named</a> and the government representatives conferred privately (without the other side's lawyers) for an extended period of time, and then everything was put under a gag order for the parties who did hear what was going on.  I'll let Kade Crockford from the ACLU explain the situation.  He had gone to the court to hear what happened and basically heard a lot of nothing:
<blockquote><i>
We entered the courtroom. I sat in the front row, behind the bar. Presiding Judge Carol Ball called our cooperating attorney Peter Krupp&rsquo;s name, and the Assistant District Attorney&rsquo;s name. She did not call out the name of the case to begin the proceedings, as is custom.
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The ADA approached the sidebar, the area adjacent to the judge&rsquo;s perch, far enough away from us, the general public, that we couldn&rsquo;t hear the content of the hushed conversation spoken there. Krupp objected immediately, before even approaching the bench; he wanted the case heard in open court. (The judge had already sealed the proceedings the day before, pending a hearing this morning.) Krupp&rsquo;s objection was not granted. Our legal team therefore approached the sidebar, joining the judge and the prosecution.
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Then we among the general public, including journalists from all the major media outfits in Boston, listened and heard nothing, as the prosecutors, our lawyers and the judge conversed secretly, in plain sight. I have no idea what they said. I still don&rsquo;t know, because my colleagues, lawyers at the ACLU of Massachusetts, are prohibited by court order from telling me.
<br /><br />
So all I know is what I saw. As Donald Rumsfeld said, there are known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns. After the proceedings this morning, I&rsquo;m left with little of the former, and a whole lot of the latter two.
<br /><br />
The known knowns: the scrum of lawyers, defense and prosecution, addressed the judge. I saw the judge speak to the lawyers. Then I saw our attorneys return to their bench, closer to where I was sitting, out of earshot of the sidebar. But the ADA stayed with the judge. He spoke to her, with his back to the courtroom, for about ten minutes. Our attorneys didn&rsquo;t get to hear what he said to her, didn&rsquo;t have a chance to respond to whatever the government was saying about our client, about the case. It was frankly shocking.
<br /><br />
After those ten minutes of secret government-judge conversation, our attorneys were invited back to the sidebar, whereupon the scrum of lawyers spoke with the judge for another ten or fifteen minutes. Then they dispersed. The judge uttered not one word to the open court. And that was it.
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After this, the lawyers for the ACLU were only able to say that they couldn't say anything.  They couldn't say what the judge said or decided.  They couldn't say if the judge granted the ACLU's motion to quash the subpoenas.  Basically, the public knows nothing.  The government, I'm sure, insisted that this was all a matter of great importance and a criminal investigation for which it must be kept secret -- but it's getting more and more difficult to believe the government when it keeps trying to brush pretty much everything it can under the rug.  Furthermore, if this were truly a key criminal investigation, shouldn't the subpoena have actually been narrowly focused on the key issue, rather than seeking subscriber info on everyone who used the hashtag #BostonPD?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/01412317256/govt-able-to-keep-details-entirely-private-public-hearing-over-twitter-subpoena.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/01412317256/govt-able-to-keep-details-entirely-private-public-hearing-over-twitter-subpoena.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/01412317256/govt-able-to-keep-details-entirely-private-public-hearing-over-twitter-subpoena.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:54:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Lawyers For Thomas Cooley Law School Skirt Legal &#038; Ethical Questions In Uncovering Anonymous Blogger They're Suing</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember the Thomas M. Cooley law school?  The school, generally considered a 4th tier bottom of the barrel law school, made some news last month by <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110808/02404115428/how-to-make-mockery-your-own-law-school-sue-your-critics.shtml">suing some anonymous critics</a>, who appeared to be unhappy former students blogging about the school.  The school <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110813/00470615514/cooley-law-school-sued-over-its-supposedly-misleading-employment-stats.shtml">has also been sued</a> for apparent misleading employment stats.  Of course, somewhat related to all of this is the ridiculously laughable attempt by Thomas Cooley to hide its poor reputation by creating <i>its own</i> ranking system that puts itself as the number 2 law school in the country.  Of course, its ranking methodology leaves a lot to be desired, using things like "total law school square footage," and "total volumes in library," and giving them equal rank to things like "bar passage rate" and "employment upon graduation."
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Anyway, the lawyer representing Cooley, <a href="http://www.millercanfield.com/MikeCoakley" target="_blank">Michael Coakley</a>, who attended the (according to Cooley itself) far inferior law school of the University of Michigan, apparently <a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2011/09/thomas-cooley-law-schools-attack-on-a-critics-anonymity-hits-some-snags.html" target="_blank">decided to take some questionable steps in identifying one of the bloggers</a> in question.  Initially, he had filed a subpoena on the ISP via the Michigan state court where the case is pending, demanding identifying info.  The blogger's lawyer, John Hermann, filed a motion to quash the subpoena.  While the court was still considering that, Coakley went and had <i>another</i> subpoena for info served via <i>California</i>.  While the ISP (more on that in another post) had promised Hermann that it would not divulge the info while the motion to quash was being considered, and then told him it wouldn't do anything before August 22nd, it apparently handed over the info on August 17th.
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Coakley then sent Hermann a letter saying that since the ISP had already identified the blogger from the second subpoena, Hermann's motion to quash the original subpoena was moot, and threatened to ask for sanctions against Hermann if he didn't drop it.  He also threatened to reveal the blogger's name in a public court filing, if Hermann and the blogger did not agree to certain conditions and provide certain info.
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Of course, all of this is of dubious ethics and legality.  As Paul Alan Levy explains via the link above:
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In fact, because Coakley knew that he had obtained this information in the face of a pending motion to quash the subpoena asserting that the Doe had a First Amendment privilege to speak anonymously, he not only had no right to obtain had no right to use the information against Doe, but he had an obligation to return the information pending a resolution of the discovery dispute.&nbsp; That is because Michigan, like most jurisdictions, has a discovery rule protecting against the misuse of information that has been obtained despite a claim of privilege.&nbsp; In Michigan, Rule 2.302(B)(7) provides that<br /><br />
<ul>
<li>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If information that is subject to a claim of privilege or of protection as trial-preparation material is produced in discovery, the party making the claim may notify any party that received the information of the claim and the basis for it.&nbsp; After being notified, a party must promptly return, sequester, or destroy the specified information and any copies it has and may not use or disclose the information until the claim is resolved.&nbsp; A receiving party may promptly present the information to the court under seal for a determination of the claim.&nbsp; If the receiving party disclosed the information before being notified, it must take reasonable steps to retrieve it.&nbsp; The producing party must preserve the information until the claim is resolved.</li>
</ul>
<p><br />Because Coakley is the head of the litigation department at a prominent Detroit law firm, he must have been aware of this rule.&nbsp; In fact, his letter could be read as expressing some defensiveness about his obligations, because he began by emphasizing that the disclosure really wasn&rsquo;t his fault: the disclosure had occurred, he said, &ldquo;without direction from us (other than the subpoena itself).&rdquo;&nbsp; But the California subpoena was served after the motion to quash was filed in Michigan, and the threat to use the privileged information to exact concessions from Doe, and the subsequent filing of an amended complaint and other papers prominently displaying Doe&rsquo;s name, seem to have been deliberate violations of the rule.&nbsp; Coakley has not responded to my requests for information and for comment on my concerns.<br /><br />Given how marginal <a href="http://www.citizen.org/documents/ThomasCooleyvSyedetalDraftComplaint.pdf" target="_self">his client's defamation claims</a> against the Doe are, Coakley may have felt he had no choice but to skirt the ethical edge by violating this rule.&nbsp; (The <a href="http://www.citizen.org/documents/ThomasCooleyvSyedetalDraftComplaint.pdf" target="_self">linked complaint</a>, which was a draft attached to Coakley's demand letter, reflects a false name; by the time it filed the amended complaint, it had used the disclosure to identify the Doe and put that name in the complaint).&nbsp; Coakley <a href="http://www.millercanfield.com/MikeCoakley" target="_self">markets himself to potential clients</a> by proclaiming his reputation as &ldquo;a scrapper in protecting their&nbsp; interests.&rdquo;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I see it, Coakley&rsquo;s scrappiness took him a few steps too far in this case.</p>
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Thankfully, the court seems to recognize this somewhat questionable activity on the part of Coakley, and has ruled that the disclosed information should be sequestered, and the papers filed in the case naming the blogger should be stricken from the record.  Still, even if this lawyer isn't a Cooley grad, these actions certainly don't reflect well on Cooley as a law school.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110912/01135415897/lawyers-thomas-cooley-law-school-skirt-legal-ethical-questions-uncovering-anonymous-blogger-theyre-suing.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110912/01135415897/lawyers-thomas-cooley-law-school-skirt-legal-ethical-questions-uncovering-anonymous-blogger-theyre-suing.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110912/01135415897/lawyers-thomas-cooley-law-school-skirt-legal-ethical-questions-uncovering-anonymous-blogger-theyre-suing.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:27:41 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Verizon Tells Customer To Get A Lawyer &#038; A Subpoena To Get An Itemized Bill</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've noticed in the last couple years that major telcos have really ramped up their customer service.  I've had very positive exchanges with folks at Sprint and AT&#038;T -- two companies, which used to have reputations for horrible customer service.  Sprint, in particular, appears to have made it abundantly clear to customer service agents that they should bend over backwards to help customers.  Apparently, Verizon has gone in a different direction.  A woman, who called Verizon to try to find out about the $4.19 she was being charged for six local calls, was told by Verizon reps that the <i>only way</i> it would provide her an itemized bill was to get a lawyer and have the lawyer get a subpoena to force Verizon to disclose the information.
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Instead, the woman went to court (by herself) and <a href="http://consumerist.com/2011/07/verizon-tells-customer-she-needs-lawyer-subpoena-for-itemized-bill-judge-disagrees.html" target="_blank">a judge told Verizon to hand over the itemized bill info</a>.  
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It is a basic matter of fair business practice that a consumer should be able to contact a utility about a charge on a bill and learn what the charge is for and learn that the charge was correctly applied. The only verification that Verizon's witness could offer that a charge like [the customer's] $4.19 measured use charge was accurate and billed correctly was her faith in the accuracy of Verizon's computer system. The only way that Verizon would offer any information about a past charge in response to a consumer inquiry was to require that customer to hire a lawyer and subpoena their own usage information. By no reasonable standard could this be considered reasonable customer service.
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The judge has also suggested Verizon should be fined $1,000 for its failure here, and that suggestion will be reviewed by the Pennsylvania Public Utility Commission.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20110715/02212815101/verizon-tells-customer-to-get-lawyer-subpoena-to-get-itemized-bill.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20110715/02212815101/verizon-tells-customer-to-get-lawyer-subpoena-to-get-itemized-bill.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20110715/02212815101/verizon-tells-customer-to-get-lawyer-subpoena-to-get-itemized-bill.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 06:46:31 PDT</pubDate>
<title>ACLU And EFF Want To Find Out Who Rolled Over When Gov't Came Calling For Info About Wikileaks</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110521/10065214370/aclu-eff-want-to-find-out-who-rolled-over-when-govt-came-calling-info-about-wikileaks.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While there's been plenty of attention paid to the US government's attempt, using a 2703(d) order (sorta like a subpoena, but not quite), to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110107/16134312575/feds-subpoena-twitter-info-wikileaks-supporting-icelandic-politician.shtml">get info</a> from Twitter on certain users who had a connection to Wikileaks, one of things that we pointed out at the time was the only reason we knew about the orders to Twitter was because Twitter fought the order.  We wondered <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110110/01084212585/kudos-to-twitter-not-just-rolling-over-when-us-govt-asked-info.shtml">who else received such orders</a> and just rolled over and handed over the data.
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It appears that the ACLU and the EFF are asking the same question.
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While (of course) it would appear that such info is being kept totally secret by the US government, those two organizations scanned the case numbers to determine that it appears four other similar orders were issued at the same time as Twitter's order -- and <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/wikileaks-aclu/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A wired27b %28Blog - 27B Stroke 6 %28Threat Level%29%29" target="_blank">they'd like to know who those orders went to</a>, in order to defend the users' right to privacy.   The argument seems pretty sound here.  Since these users are currently fighting the government's attempt to have Twitter hand over their info, shouldn't they have the right to fight against other services handing over their info?
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Of course, the end result of this will almost certainly be a revelation of which four online services simply rolled over rather than defending their users' rights.  Anyone want to take guesses as to who's on that list?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110521/10065214370/aclu-eff-want-to-find-out-who-rolled-over-when-govt-came-calling-info-about-wikileaks.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110521/10065214370/aclu-eff-want-to-find-out-who-rolled-over-when-govt-came-calling-info-about-wikileaks.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110521/10065214370/aclu-eff-want-to-find-out-who-rolled-over-when-govt-came-calling-info-about-wikileaks.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:36:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Feds Subpoena Twitter For Info On Wikileaks-Supporting Icelandic Politician</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In the feds continued efforts to find something (anything!) to charge Wikileaks with, its latest fishing expedition apparently involves <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/birgitta-jonsdottir/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A wired27b %28Blog - 27B Stroke 6 %28Threat Level%29%29" target="_blank">issuing a subpoena to Twitter</a> asking for info on the account of Birgitta Jonsdottir, a Member of Iceland's Parliament, who had been instrumental in helping Wikileaks establish a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100616/1035169849.shtml">strong free speech legal structure in Iceland</a>.  More recently, like many former Wikileaks' supporters, she has distanced herself from the operation, due to disagreements over Julian Assange's role in the organization.  Apparently the subpoena is seeking everything she's done on Twitter since November 2009 (presumably including private direct messages).  Given all the recent talk questioning whether or not private emails stored on third party servers are protected under the 4th Amendment, it does make you wonder if the same applies to private direct messages as well. Jonsdottir is apparently planning to fight the subpoena, so we may just find out...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110107/16134312575/feds-subpoena-twitter-info-wikileaks-supporting-icelandic-politician.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110107/16134312575/feds-subpoena-twitter-info-wikileaks-supporting-icelandic-politician.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110107/16134312575/feds-subpoena-twitter-info-wikileaks-supporting-icelandic-politician.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:59:49 PST</pubDate>
<title>Why Didn't Google Or Comcast Protect The Identity Of Anonymous Church Blogger Who Was Outed?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101118/05102511923/why-didn-t-google-or-comcast-protect-the-identity-of-anonymous-church-blogger-who-was-outed.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may recall the story we discussed recently concerning a church in Florida, where one member of the church was anonymously blogging critical comments about the church.  Another member of the same church, who was heavily involved in the church hierarchy, was also a local police officer and used that position to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101021/10521111529/lawsuit-settled-after-cop-revealed-anonymous-blogger-to-his-church-then-destroyed-records-to-protect-civil-rights.shtml">get subpoenas and to reveal the blogger's identity</a>.  Once he did so, he dropped the investigation, destroyed the records and told the church leaders who it was.  The whole thing was highly questionable.  At the time, we questioned why the state's attorney was willing to issue subpoenas on such an issue.
<br><br>
Paul Levy wanted to know the answer to another question: <a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2010/11/responding-to-prosecutors-seeking-to-identify-anonymous-bloggers-google-and-other-isps-could-learn-f.html" target="_blank">why did both Google and Comcast cough up this guy's identifying information</a> without even giving him a chance to quash the subpoenas.  He asked both companies and the answer he got is, basically, that they immediately cough up info if it's a <i>criminal subpoena</i> rather than a civil one:
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Although neither Google nor Comcast generally opposes outright civil subpoenas to identify their users, both have a good history of insisting that the enforcement of such subpoenas be deferred until they have a chance to give notice to the customers, so that the customers will have a chance to defend their anonymity.  This practice made their failure to defend their customer&rsquo;s rights in this instance all the more surprising.  I inquired of their legal departments why they acted as they did.  I was disappointed to learn that neither company customarily asks any questions or gives any notice to customers when their receive subpoenas in connection with a criminal investigation.  Instead, they verify only that the subpoena forms are properly filled out and are issued by courts of competent jurisdiction.
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Considering how frequently we hear stories of governments abusing their investigative power, it's a bit troubling that these companies do not, in fact, go further in protecting their customers' rights even in cases of criminal subpoenas.  Levy notes that, unlike those two companies, many actual media companies are much better at resisting criminal subpoenas when appropriate:
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The discussion reminded me that although the major ISP&rsquo;s have generally behaved well when they receive civil subpoenas to identify their users, insisting that their users get notice and an opportunity to seek to quash, they lag far behind the mainstream media when it comes to criminal subpoenas.&nbsp;&nbsp; Newspapers and broadcasters have a forty-year history of fighting criminal investigators who issue subpoenas to identify their sources.&nbsp; Newspaper and television reporters regularly accept incarceration as the price that sometimes has to be paid for this principle.&nbsp; I can&rsquo;t think of an ISP that has stood up to state power so strongly.
<br><br>
In least in some cases, that history has led media companies to resist criminal subpoenas to identify bloggers, although the media lawyers present evinced wide variation in the value that they placed on the content provided by users who comment on media web sites.&nbsp; All agreed that, at the very least, users should get notice so that they can move to quash on their own.&nbsp; And after the panel <a href="http://www.bisnow.com/washington_dc_legal_news_story.php?p=274" target="_self">Barbara Wall</a>, a vice-president of the Gannett media chain, discussed with me a number of cases around the country where Gannett has successfully resisted criminal subpoenas to identify the users of the web sites of some of their outlets around the country.&nbsp; Sometimes Gannett is able to talk to prosecutors out of pursuing subpoenas, and sometimes it beats them in court.&nbsp; (It appears that Gannett adopted a firm policy in response to <a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2010/11/gannett-shamed-into-changing-policy-on-responding-to-request-to-identify-blog-comments.html" target="_blank">an embarrassing incident involving one of its own papers</a>.).
</i></blockquote>
This is a good point and one that doesn't get much attention in the tech space.  Hopefully, more tech service providers will begin to recognize that their customers have rights in criminal investigations as well as in civil lawsuits.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101118/05102511923/why-didn-t-google-or-comcast-protect-the-identity-of-anonymous-church-blogger-who-was-outed.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101118/05102511923/why-didn-t-google-or-comcast-protect-the-identity-of-anonymous-church-blogger-who-was-outed.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101118/05102511923/why-didn-t-google-or-comcast-protect-the-identity-of-anonymous-church-blogger-who-was-outed.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:19:30 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Sorry, But We Don't Just Hand Out Information On Our Commenters</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100922/02061211102/sorry-but-we-don-t-just-hand-out-information-on-our-commenters.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've mentioned in the past that we receive about <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100825/02002110771.shtml">one legal threat per month</a> around here.  However, until last week, we had never (knowingly) received a subpoena for any information on the site.  Last week, however, we were emailed a subpoena that had apparently been issued to try to find out some information about commenters on a particular Techdirt blog post, which the lawyer's clients were claiming were defamatory.  We've discussed multiple times on the site both the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070118/160351.shtml">importance</a> of protecting anonymity online, as well as the fact that many US federal courts have <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090227/1807363929.shtml">recognized</a> that anonymous blog comments are to be judged against the First Amendment when determining if the identity of their author should be revealed.
<br /><br />
Since this is something that we certainly believe strongly in, we're not about to just roll over and give out information on commenters, without a clear legal requirement to do so.  Our policy is pretty firm that we believe that it's proper to protect the interests of our community, within legal boundaries (of course).  There were some oddities with this subpoena -- issued from a Florida court -- including the fact that it had apparently initially been issued way back in January and sent to a random law firm in Philadelphia that I've never heard of, which has never represented Techdirt/Floor64 and certainly is not authorized to accept subpoenas on our behalf.  Thus, we never received it when it was first sent out -- but were finally emailed a copy last week.
<br /><br />
The actual subpoena came from a lawyer representing John Maragoudakis, who goes by the name John Markis, and runs a company called Trusted Traditions, which sells stuff on eBay.  The <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20020208/0040203.shtml">blog post</a> in question was from way back in 2002, and was about some people who were arrested for "shill bidding" on eBay.  In 2009, someone posted <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20020208/0040203.shtml#c327">a comment</a>, making certain allegations about Maragoudakis/Markis and Trusted Traditions that he claims are false and defamatory, and he has already taken legal action against the individual he believes was making such posts around the web.
<br /><br />
After looking over the details, and trying (and failing) to get the lawyer who issued the subpoena on the phone, Paul Alan Levy from Public Citizen Litigation Group helped us respond in writing to the subpoena, pointing out some of the basic procedural errors, but also (more importantly) highlighting the key First Amendment issues raised, along with the associated case law, to make it clear that we don't take such requests lightly, and don't just hand over information because something official-looking shows up demanding it.
<br /><br />
What's even odder, in this case, is that there's already a lawsuit going on by Maragoudakis/Markis against the person who he believes posted the content in question.  In other words, he's already pretty sure he knows who wrote the content in question -- meaning that they already have a perfectly acceptable means of using the discovery process with that individual to find out if he made the comments on Techdirt.  So, they don't need us to say if it's him.  And, if it's not him, then not only is the subpoena almost certainly past the statute of limitations on defamation, but it's highly questionable that we should just reveal information on a commenter because someone <i>hopes</i> that it's another person they already sued.  Either way, it comes across as a fishing expedition, based on the hopes that sites won't protect the rights of their community, and will just hand over the information.  We're not about to just hand such information over without a real legal basis (even if some publications out there apparently <a href="http://twitter.com/romenesko/statuses/25235065349" target="_blank">don't protect</a> their community's anonymity).
<br /><br />
You can read our entire response below.  None of this means, of course, that commenters are immune from having their info subpoenaed, but we will satisfy ourselves that there is a legal basis for the request before handing over any information.
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<pubDate>Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:59:20 PDT</pubDate>
<title>PA AG's Twitter Subpoena Also Told Twitter It Couldn't Reveal Subpoena's Existence</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100607/0253209713.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Back in May, we wrote about how Pennsylvania Attorney General (and gubernatorial candidate), Tom Corbett, had <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100519/1031479492.shtml">sent a subpoena to Twitter</a> demanding the identity of an online critic, who he believed to be a former state employee who had been convicted and was facing sentencing in a political corruption scandal.  While Corbett <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100521/1856459539.shtml">dropped the subpoena</a> after the guy was sentenced (and there was widespread criticism of his actions), the legal community continues to scold him for his actions.  A recent article highlights that not only did he send the subpoena, but the coverletter of the subpoena <a href="http://thebulletin.us/articles/2010/06/04/news/local_state/doc4c098a6f97036287230643.txt" target="_blank">ordered Twitter not to reveal the existence of the subpoena</a> -- even to the account holder.  In fact, it told Twitter that if it wanted to reveal the existence of the subpoena to anyone, it first had to contact the Attorney General's office, so that it could seek an order prohibiting revealing the subpoena:
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"Should you decide that you wish to disclose the existence of this subpoena and its contents to anyone, including the account holder, it is requested that you contact the deputy attorney general named on your subpoena and so advise him or her before any disclosure so he or she can determine whether or not to seek a court order from the supervising judge prohibiting disclosures under section 4549(d) of the Investigating Grand Jury Act, 42 Pa. C.S. 4549 (d)."
</i></blockquote>
So not only was he seeking to out an anonymous critic, he wanted to make sure no one -- least of all the guy who's identity was at stake -- was able to know about it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100607/0253209713.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100607/0253209713.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100607/0253209713.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 18:11:59 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Suggestion: When Trying To Quash A Subpoena To Reveal Your Identity... Don't Use Your Real Name</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100526/0016389576.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ There have been plenty of cases where a person or company gets a subpoena to try to identify an anonymous online person -- such as in various file sharing cases.  It's also not uncommon for those anonymous internet people to fight the subpoena, and it's quite possible to do so anonymously.  Apparently, no one informed that to one guy who decided to fight a subpoena by Worldwide Film Entertainment over an alleged attempt to file share the movie <i>The Gray Man</i>.  Apparently, in filing the challenge, the guy <a href="http://blog.internetcases.com/2010/05/25/anonymous-accused-bittorrent-user-moves-to-quash-subpoena-using-real-name/" target="_blank">used his real name and address</a>:
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Comcast notified its subscriber in this case, one Mr. Simko, of Worldwide Film Entertainment's efforts to learn Mr. Simko's identity.
<br /><br />
And here's the part that makes this little vignette so charming: rather than challenge the plaintiff's efforts to unmask his identity, Mr. Simko filed a motion to quash the subpoena USING HIS REAL NAME.
<br /><br />
The court denied the motion to quash. The basis for denying the motion is kind of an aside (the motion to quash phase was not the right time to challenge venue or knowledge of the infringement).
<br /><br />
What's noteworthy about the case is Mr. Simko's decision to voluntarily waive his anonymity. Not only did he challenge the subpoena using his own name, he filed as an exhibit the letter he got from Comcast notifying him of the subpoena. Right there, in all caps and as plain as day were Simko's name and address for all to see.
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:54:51 PST</pubDate>
<title>Post TSA's New Security Rules And Get A Visit And Subpoena From Homeland Security</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091230/0122067544.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ With the failed attempted terrorist attack last week, there has been a tremendous amount of confusion and changing stories concerning airline security.  What was especially odd was that there were so many conflicting reports about what the TSA was requiring that it really made the very concept of flying a total pain.  There were some reports saying that no carry on baggage was allowed and other reports saying no electronics were allowed.  Then there were the reports that you could carry on one bag, but wouldn't be able to leave your seat in the last hour of the flight or have anything (anything at all) on your lap during that hour.  Every flight seemed to be different and the TSA was silent for a few days, before finally issuing a <a href="http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/dec25_guidance.shtm" target="_blank">vague "guidance" press release</a> that didn't really answer any questions.  Basically, the TSA said that it was changing rules constantly.  One supposes that the idea was to completely vary the rules so that no "terrorist" could prepare for them and get around them, and I actually can see some merit in that, <i>conceptually</i>.  But from a travelers' perspective, it's ridiculous.  You simply can't plan ahead with any sense of reason.
<br><br>
And since the TSA was so quiet and/or vague, there were a ton of people searching for information.  Even the NY Times was <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html" target="_blank">relying on info found on airline websites</a> rather than the TSA itself.  So it was of little surprise that there would be plenty of demand for anyone to share any info that they knew -- not for any nefarious purpose, but just so regular travelers could properly prepare for their trip.
<br><br>
Among those who found and posted such information was blogger/reporter and travel expert Christopher Elliott, who regularly blogs about travel issues.  He <a href="http://www.elliott.org/blog/tsa-orders-pat-down-of-all-passengers-during-boarding/" target="_blank">posted the details of a TSA order requiring pat-downs of all passengers</a> on international inbound flights.  The order that he posted had been sent to US Airways employees, and seemed like a reasonable bit of information that people would probably like to know about, so it's no surprise that Elliott blogged about it.  But last night, Elliott received a surprising knock on the door <a href="http://www.elliott.org/blog/full-text-of-my-subpoena-from-the-department-of-homeland-security/" target="_blank">from a Federal Agent with a subpoena</a> demanding he hand over the details of where he received the info on the pat down procedure (thanks to <a href="http://www.robhyndman.com/" target="_blank">Rob Hyndman</a> who pointed me to <a href="http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2009/12/29/blogger-gets-subpoena-for-posting-security-directive/" target="_blank">an account of this incident</a>).
<br><br>
Now, the argument in favor of this action is that these sorts of security procedures are probably supposed to be kept quiet (again, the idea would be to throw off any terrorist), but if you actually <i>think</i> about this, it doesn't make any sense.  First, it wouldn't take long at all for reports of universal pre-boarding pat downs to be spread around.  After all, thousands of people get on planes to fly to the US every day.  In fact, among the many stories I heard, the universal pat down story was among them.  So it's not like it's actually a <i>secret</i>.  It's quite clear from what's being done.  Second, if the TSA's security plan is based on keeping information like this "secret" (even if it's made obvious by their actions), then we're in even more trouble than I thought.  It's security through <i>pretend obscurity</i>.  It's ostrich-level security theater.  It's security theater where the idea is that if the TSA <i>pretends</i> no one knows what's actually happening, then it can assume that no one knows what the procedures really are for airport security.
<br><br>
Instead, the whole thing (once again) demonstrates how silly the TSA security procedures are.  And, oh yeah, rather than sending federal agents to issue subpoenas to folks like Elliott to figure out how he got the security procedures, shouldn't Homeland Security be spending more time <i>tracking terrorists</i> and coming up with plans that <i>actually make us safer</i>?  What good is it engaging in a witch hunt over who passed on the obvious info that people get patted down before they board a US-bound flight?
<br><br>
<b>Update</b>: Wired has details of <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/dhs-threatens-blogger/" target="_blank">another blogger who received a similar visit</a>, that was a lot less friendly (lots of threats involved) named Steven Frischling.  Frischling cooperated, and they went through his phone -- even calling his mom, and then wanted to get an image of his hard drive.  When they had trouble making the image, they ended up taking his laptop.  I'm still confused as to how this makes anyone safer.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091230/0122067544.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091230/0122067544.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091230/0122067544.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:36:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>US Subpoenaed All Visitor Logs From Online News Publication; Falsely Said Site Couldn't Tell Anyone</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091109/2220166861.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've seen it over and over again: when the government can hide behind the veil of secrecy, it can abuse its power.  That's why we're <i>supposed</i> to have checks and balances on power, but all too often governments figure out ways to get around that.  The latest example is that US attorneys issued a subpoena to the person hosting the news website Indymedia, <a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/effs-secret-files-anatomy-bogus-subpoena" target="_blank">demanding a logfile of <i>all visitors</i> from a particular day</a> <i>and</i> ordered the woman not to reveal the existence of the subpoena itself.  Indymedia doesn't keep its logfiles, so it simply had nothing to turn over, and after realizing this, the government withdrew the request.  However, the requirement to stay silent about it still was there, and the woman asked the EFF for help.  With the EFF involved, the government finally backed down and admitted that there was absolutely no legal basis for demanding that the woman not talk about the subpoena, and "chose not to go to court" over the matter, despite threatening to at an earlier time.
<br /><br />
This is hardly the first time we've heard about the government using (and abusing) procedures like national security letters to not just demand all sorts of info, but also demand <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071105/192611.shtml">that the recipient not tell anyone about it</a>.  Every once in a while we're able to hear about these situations because a group like the EFF or the ACLU pushed back and were able to get the US government <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080507/1856511060.shtml">to back down</a>, but that's likely only a fraction of the situations where this has happened.  In many others, we likely don't even know at all, because the recipient gave in, either because they didn't realize their legal rights, or because it just wasn't worth the fight.  But when the government thinks that it can demand certain data and cloak the demand behind a related demand for secrecy, it makes it way too easy for the government to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070309/145914.shtml">abuse</a> the process.  It basically guarantees no oversight, so why not ask for way more than the law requires, knowing that most people won't push back and no one will ever find out about it?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091109/2220166861.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091109/2220166861.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091109/2220166861.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:34:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Trying To Sue Someone Who Criticizes You Isn't The Best Way To Boost Your Reputation</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080813/0351351962.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ And here we go again.  Less than a year after a venture capital firm tried to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071130/120037.shtml">sue</a> the VC ratings site, TheFunded.com, another VC firm, EDF Ventures in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/08/12/venture-firm-edf-moves-to-silence-entrepreneur-at-thefunded/" target="_new">sent a subpoena to the site to try to identify a critical commenter</a>.
<br /><br />
This is, of course, the exact wrong response.
<br /><br />
First off, TheFunded doesn't keep records of who its anonymous commenters are, so the subpoena won't help much.  But, much more importantly, in filing the subpoena, EDF has now broadcast to the world this anonymous review on TheFunded.com:
<blockquote><i>
Worked with these people on several deals and they are to be avoided unless you are desparate.  Beaus Laskey, the only honest straightforward person in the bunch, has left the firm.
</i></blockquote>
That's pretty clearly the opinion of one anonymous commenter, and most readers of TheFunded.com would take it as such -- an anonymous ranting from someone who had a bad experience.  Look at the listings on TheFunded.com and you'll see that almost every VC firm has a few such comments from an angry entrepreneur.  People looking over the site understand that and take that into account.  It's hard to see what's actually libelous about the statement, as it's pretty clearly just this guy's opinion.
<br /><br />
But, of course, beyond drawing a LOT more attention to this one silly angry post than it ever would have received otherwise, EDF has also shown the world how it handles a little bit of criticism.  If entrepreneurs didn't have a reason to avoid the firm before (even after reading the reviews on TheFunded.com), I'd imagined this thin-skinned guaranteed-to-backfire response that shows little understanding of how to respond to internet criticism will probably convince many other entrepreneurs to stay away.  Which, of course, is exactly the opposite of what the firm probably wants.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080813/0351351962.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080813/0351351962.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080813/0351351962.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Lawyer Seriously Slapped Down For SLAPP Attempt Against Librarian Blogger</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've covered the concept of SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) suits plenty of times <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080425/175127953.shtml">before</a>.  These are bogus lawsuits filed to try to bully a critic into shutting up.  In one such case, involving an incredibly broad subpoena against a librarian blogger compiling information on the potential link between mercury and autism, a magistrate judge has <a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1215039265.shtml" target="_new">seriously smacked down the lawyer who filed the subpoena</a>.  The blogger had merely published on her blog information about the fees the lawyer in question had received.  In response, the lawyer subpoenaed a ridiculous amount of information from her: "all documents pertaining to the setup, financing, running, research, maintaining" of the blog, "including communications with representatives of the federal government, the pharmaceutical industry, advocacy groups, non-governmental organizations, political action groups, profit or non-profit entities, journals, editorial boards, scientific boards, academic boards, medical licensing boards, any 'religious groups (Muslim or otherwise), or individuals with religious affiliations,' and any other 'concerned individuals.'"
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The judge quashed the subpoena quickly, but has now hit back really hard on the lawyer, Clifford Shoemaker, for filing it in the first place:
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Shoemaker has not offered a shred of evidence to support his speculations. He has, he says, had his suspicions aroused because she has so much information. Clearly he is unfamiliar with the extent of the information which a highly-competent librarian like Ms. Seidel can, and did, accumulate. If Shoemaker wanted to know if Ms. Seidel was in part supported by or provided information by Bayer, he could have inquired of Bayer or limited the Seidel subpoena to that information. Instead he issued the subpoena calling for production of documents and a deposition on the day before he stipulated to dismiss the underlying suit with prejudice. His failure to withdraw the subpoena when he clearly knew that suit was over is telling about his motives. His efforts to vilify and demean Ms. Seidel are unwarranted and unseemly....
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I find that Clifford Shoemaker violated Fed. R. Civ. P. 11(b)(1) and Rule 45(c)(1).... The 11(b)(1) violation may also violate Virginia's Rules of Professional Conduct .... Clifford J. Shoemaker’s action is an abuse of legal process, a waste of judicial resources and an unnecessary waste of the time and expense to the purported deponent.
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The Clerk of Court is directed to forward a certified copy of this order, the motion to quash, the show cause order, and the response of Shoemaker and Seidel to the appropriate professional conduct committee of the Virginia State Bar in order that it may be made aware of Clifford J. Shoemaker's conduct and so that those authorities may take whatever action they deem appropriate.
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As a sanction from this court, Clifford J. Shoemaker is ordered to attend within three months, a continuing legal education program on ethics and on the discovery rules in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. He is ordered to file a certification of completion of the programs.
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Now that's a smackdown.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080703/0336421589.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080703/0336421589.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080703/0336421589.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>ouch</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:02:15 PDT</pubDate>
<title>New Jersey Says ISPs Need A Subpoena To Give Up Subscriber Info</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A bunch of folks have sent in the link about the New Jersey Supreme Court ruling that ISPs <a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gu9ZaCyyLpmK4hqelMtZkdBZMpsgD906F8OG0" target="_new">need a valid subpoena to hand over private info on your account to anyone</a> -- including the police.  While people are rightfully cheering this on as an excellent decision, what's troubling is the idea that anyone has felt otherwise.  ISPs (and other service providers) shouldn't be handing out your private data without a valid legal reason no matter what -- and that should not have required a legal decision to make clear.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080422/125326918.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080422/125326918.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080422/125326918.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>it-really-needed-a-decision?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:15:46 PDT</pubDate>
<title>New York City Subpoenas TXTmob For All Text Messages Sent At Republican Convention</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Over the last few years, with the growing recognition of the concept of "flash mobs" or "smart mobs" it's no surprise that various tools have been created to help manage large crowds of diverse individuals who converge for a single purpose.  One of those was a project called TXTmob, which was widely used in 2004 by people protesting the Republican National Convention in New York City.  Lots of folks used the service to send out group messages to others participating, and to quickly organize and disperse as necessary.  As you may recall, there were some confrontations between protesters and the police, resulting in a bunch of arrests.  Many of those arrested claim that the arrests were unfair, and have sued the city.  As part of its defense, lawyers for New York City have now <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/nyregion/30text.html?ex=1364529600&#038;en=364054894be26474&#038;ei=5090&#038;partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss&#038;pagewanted=all" target="_new">sent a broad subpoena to the guy who created and ran TXTmob</a> demanding, among other things, many of the text messages sent via the service, including the identities of the senders and recipients.  Needless to say, this seems like an overly broad request -- and Tad Hirsch, the MIT PhD. student who set up the service, claims that much of that information no longer exists.  Even if it did exist, it seems to be overstepping privacy bounds to demand that Hirsch hand over such information, especially without any specifics included.  The whole thing smacks of using subpoenas to intimidate people.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080330/234737699.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080330/234737699.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080330/234737699.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>seems-a-bit-extreme</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:10:12 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Don't Click On This Link Unless You Don't Mind A Grand Jury Knowing What You Read</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Apparently two executives from Village Voice Media (publishers of The Village Voice and other independent newspapers) were <a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003660673">arrested yesterday</a> for revealing grand jury information that was supposed to be private.  Specifically, they had published an article in one of its publications, the Phoenix New Times, <a href="http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-10-18/news/breathtaking-abuse-of-the-constitution/">accusing a grand jury of unconstitutional behavior</a> in issuing a subpoena for all sorts of information about the Phoenix New Times and its readership.  Now, before you click on the link to the article, it's worth noting that the subpoena in question demands that the newspaper hand over incredibly detailed log information on every visitor to that website since January 2004.  This is because someone is upset about four articles dealing with a local sheriff.  Yet, though the supposed problem is with the four articles, the subpoena demands information on every visitor to the site, including such things as their IP address, which articles they read, any information obtained by cookies, the referral links that got them to the website, their type of browser and their type of operating system.  In other words, all the info typically found in a log file -- but it's unclear why this information could possibly be necessary in a complaint about 4 specific articles. <b>Update</b>: As pointed out in the comments, just as we were writing up this story, the original lawsuit <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1019new-times1019-ON-CR.html">was dropped</a> and the special prosecutor was fired.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071019/154053.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071019/154053.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071019/154053.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>privacy?-schmivacy</slash:department>
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