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<pubDate>Tue, 7 May 2013 15:43:14 PDT</pubDate>
<title>USTR Special 301 Report Doesn't Even Mention Germany Trampling Fair Use</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, when the USTR's infamous <a href="http://www.ustr.gov/sites/default/files/05012013%202013%20Special%20301%20Report.pdf" target="_blank">Special 301 Report</a> (pdf) came out, one of the things that I was most interested in was how the USTR would treat Germany.  After all, back at the beginning of March, Germany's lower house, the Bundestag, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130301/07433222171/german-newspaper-snippet-law-passes-watered-down-still-stupid.shtml">passed</a> a somewhat watered-down, but still troubling, bill concerning the quoting of "snippets," saying they would need to be licensed.  The watered down part noted that "single words or the smallest excerpts" would not require a license, but no one has defined what "smallest excerpts" means.  At the beginning of April, the upper house, the Bundesrat, declined to challenge the bill, effectively making it law in Germany.  The text of the bill notes, in part, that:
<blockquote><i>
The producer of press materials (press publisher) shall have the exclusive right to make these press materials publicly available, in whole or in part, for commercial purposes, unless it is a matter of single words or smallest text excerpts.
</i></blockquote>
While there's still uncertainty over what it means, CCIA alerted the USTR that this almost certainly represented a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130215/14231722001/ccia-argues-germany-should-be-naughty-special-301-list-attacking-fair-use.shtml">violation</a> of the Berne Convention's <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/10.html" target="_blank">Article 10(1)</a>, which states:
<blockquote><i>
 It shall be permissible to make quotations from a work which has already been lawfully made available to the public, provided that their making is compatible with fair practice, and their extent does not exceed that justified by the purpose, including quotations from newspaper articles and periodicals in the form of press summaries.
</i></blockquote>
It is difficult to see how the German law does not violate that, and thus, it would appear that the new law is a form of a trade barrier on US companies due to improper use of intellectual property laws -- which is exactly what the Special 301 report is <i>supposed</i> to call attention to.  Of course, historically, the USTR has only used the Special 301 report to call out countries who aren't creating <i>strict</i> enough copyright, patent and trademark laws -- not those which have made them <i>too</i> strict.
<br /><br />
So here we had a clear example where Germany had created a form of an "IP" law that went too far, beyond our trade agreements, in a clear attempt to try to create a form of a trade barrier against US companies, to block them from doing things like creating a new search engine.  So how would the USTR react?
<br /><br />
Well, apparently by ignoring the issue entirely.
<br /><br />
The <i>only</i> mention of Germany in the entire report is the following:
<blockquote><i>
U.S. industry has expressed concerns regarding the policies of several developed trading partners, including Finland, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Korea, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Spain, Turkey, and Taiwan, on issues related to innovation in the pharmaceutical sector and other aspects of health care goods and services.
</i></blockquote>
No further explanation or discussion is given.  Basically, it looks like the USTR really just doesn't much care when other countries create even stricter IP laws -- or when those IP laws might impact the internet industry.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130505/15363222952/ustr-special-301-report-doesnt-even-mention-germany-trampling-fair-use.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130505/15363222952/ustr-special-301-report-doesnt-even-mention-germany-trampling-fair-use.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130505/15363222952/ustr-special-301-report-doesnt-even-mention-germany-trampling-fair-use.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:52:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>German Newspaper 'Snippet' Law Passes: Watered Down, But Still Stupid</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>
For a year now, Techdirt has been following the sorry saga of Germany's attempt to make search engines and others <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120305/09161017982/german-government-wants-google-to-pay-to-show-news-snippets.shtml">pay</a> for licenses to show even small excerpts from online newspapers.  The main motivation seems to be to take money from Google for being successful, and to give it to the German publishers that are struggling.
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<p>
Even though the idea that newspapers were suffering because of the short excerpts shown as part of search results is absurd, and existing copyright law already forbids unauthorized use of longer extracts, publishers had enough friends in the German parliament to get the "snippets" law pushed through today.  However, along the way, a small amendment was made to the text that makes it slightly less damaging.  According to the new wording (<a href="http://dip21.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/125/1712534.pdf">pdf - German original</a>), quotations will have to be licensed unless they are:

<i><blockquote>single words or the smallest excerpts</blockquote></i>

Unhelpfully, no definition for "smallest excerpts" is given, which means there is still considerable uncertainty over just how many words can be quoted without paying a licensing fee.  That's bound to have a chilling effect on the use of snippets, as publications err on the side of caution before court cases begin to establish what is and isn't acceptable.  Another issue is whether quotations in blogs or on social networks will be exempt: according to the German magazine <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/leistungsschutzrecht-sieben-fakten-zum-google-gesetz-a-886063.html">Der Spiegel</a> they will ("probably", in the case of Facebook).  But again, we won't know for sure until cases come to court.
</p>
<p>
Happily, there is still some doubt over whether the law will ever come into force.  According to Der Spiegel again, the SPD (Socialist Party) may be able to overturn the law in Germany's other legislative body, the Bundesrat.  Let's hope it succeeds, and saves Germany from the embarrassment of trying to implement such a backward-looking and unworkable law.
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<pubDate>Wed, 9 Jan 2013 14:52:20 PST</pubDate>
<title>Irish Newspapers Budge Slightly: Now Say Links Don't Require Payment, But Snippets...</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last year, we wrote about the insane position from the group Newspaper Licensing Ireland (NLI), which represents the major newspapers in Ireland, in demanding that a charity <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120529/11010619116/irish-charity-told-it-needs-to-pay-license-fee-to-link-to-newspaper-article.shtml">pay them</a> for linking to newspaper stories.  In the last few weeks that story has been getting <a href="http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/newspapers-charges-linking-ireland-740093-Jan2013/?utm_source=shortlink" target="_blank">more and more attention</a> in Ireland, in part because a related, but different organization representing mostly the same Irish newspapers, National Newspapers of Ireland (NNI), made a submission to a government review of copyright arguing that <a href="http://www.nni.ie/v2/broad/portal.php?content=../_includes/prportal.php&#038;date=4th%20Jan%202013&#038;year=2013" target="_blank">linking is infringement</a> if done on any kind of commercial site (so, yeah, they'd probably consider that link to their site infringement).
<blockquote><i>
NNI made a submission to the effect that our view of existing legislation is that <b>the display and transmission of links does constitute an infringement of copyright</b> and our existing copyright law should not be amended in the manner discussed in the Consultation Paper.
</i></blockquote>
Meanwhile, the lawyers representing the charity have noticed that NLI appears to have <a href="http://www.mcgarrsolicitors.ie/2013/01/07/irish-newspapers-and-links-a-welcome-evolution-of-position/" target="_blank">backtracked ever so slightly</a> and are now saying that "links alone" are not infringement, but if you include any text, you've gone over the line.  They've put up a new statement reading, in part:
<blockquote><i>
For commercial use: NLI does not require a licence from any organisation which only displays or transmits links to newspaper content. A licence is required when there is other reproduction of the newspaper content, such as display of PDFs or text extracts.
</i></blockquote>
Of course, whether or not they consider reproducing <i>that</i> text as copyright infringement is left as an exercise for the reader.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130107/09171321594/irish-newspapers-budge-slightly-now-say-links-dont-require-payment-snippets.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130107/09171321594/irish-newspapers-budge-slightly-now-say-links-dont-require-payment-snippets.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130107/09171321594/irish-newspapers-budge-slightly-now-say-links-dont-require-payment-snippets.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 4 Jan 2013 12:45:22 PST</pubDate>
<title>One Problem With FTC/Google Settlement: Implies Fair Use Scraping Is An Antitrust Issue</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130103/16474721574/one-problem-with-ftcgoogle-settlement-implies-fair-use-scraping-is-antitrust-issue.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While we've already <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130103/10491421570/as-expected-ftc-announces-close-google-investigation-with-no-antitrust-charges-minor-tweaks-to-biz-practices.shtml">covered</a> the "settlement" between the FTC and Google, noting that it's basically a complete win for Google, there are some areas to be concerned about.  In particular, Ed Black, from CCIA, calls out the agreement from Google to <a href="http://www.ccianet.org/index.asp?sid=5&#038;artid=347&#038;evtflg=False" target="_blank">allow companies to opt out of being scraped and having snippets shown</a> in vertical search results.  While the details on this are fairly limited, and no one would have complained if Google had decided to do this on its own, by including it as part of the settlement, it can be read to <i>imply</i>, without any legal basis, that showing snippets of content from another site is an antitrust violation.
<br /><br />
The wider impact of this could be serious, in that it could scare off other companies from doing this kind of activity, which is clearly protected under fair use laws.  Of course, the FTC's official release on this issue didn't do much to clarify the thinking here, which is a part of the problem.  Two FTC commissioners dissented on this particular bit, showing their concerns.  Thomas Rosch's <a href="http://ftc.gov/os/2013/01/130103googlesearchroschstmt.pdf" target="_blank">dissent</a> (pdf) on this particular issue states he's worried about the implications, whether intended or not:
<blockquote><i>
I am concerned that the majority's apparent position that scraping is a violation of Section 5 of the FTC Act will put the FTC in the position of becoming the enforcer of the  copyright laws on the Internet&#8212;a task for which it has neither the resources nor expertise, and 
was surely not envisioned by Congress.  As any casual user of the Internet knows, many websites  make use of other websites' content; indeed, the business model for many popular websites is  based on aggregating or summarizing the content of other websites.  As a result of the majority's apparent condemnation of scraping, the legality of these aggregators may be called into question, and the Commission may be inundated with rent-seeking complaints from firms like the alleged 'victims' here. 
</i></blockquote>
In other words, in part due to the FTC's own refusal to clarify the thinking here, expect plenty of companies upset about scraping and the use of snippets to now go running to the FTC, using the Google settlement as "evidence" that the fair use aggregation and display of snippets is an antitrust violation.  Elsewhere, Rosch points out that the whole issue of scraping seems silly since Google has no "monopoly" on scraping, so it's not even an antitrust issue -- and also that there had been no demonstration of any harm from Google's actions.
<br /><br />
Similarly, Commissioner Ohlhausen, while not directly commenting on the copyright issues apparent in this decision, notes that scraping and displaying of snippets -- a key bit of fair use that is central to large parts of the internet -- seems like a bizarre thing to complain about since there is <a href="http://ftc.gov/os/2013/01/130103googlesearchohlhausenstmt.pdf" target="_blank">no legal basis for a complaint</a> (pdf) and because the actions appeared to <i>help</i>, not hurt, the companies complaining:
<blockquote><i>
Based on the evidence gathered in this investigation, I saw no factual or legal basis for pursuing... a standalone FTC Act Section 5 claim premised on the so-called scraping conduct....  In particular, there is no viable theory of harm ... for bringing a case.... 
<br /><br />
I am not aware of any evidence that the alleged scraping resulted in either a decline in traffic from Google to the parties complaining about the scraping or any reduction in innovation by existing or potential rivals of Google.  In fact, some of the complainants in this matter 
demonstrated significant growth both during and after the alleged scraping took place.  Further, the investigation revealed that most websites appear to approve of Google's use of their content in Google's vertical properties because it leads to increased traffic to their sites.  Moreover, the likelihood of possible future harm to competition or consumers from such conduct appears highly remote, particularly given the enormous growth of the use of apps to access rivals' sites or services directly.  
</i></blockquote>
In other words, the evidence seemed to show that such fair use of aggregating content and displaying of snippets actually drives innovation and consumer benefit forward.
<br /><br />
Furthermore, in a press briefing after the FTC announcement, law professor Eric Goldman made a significant point.  For many "review sites" that the settlement applied to, the sites themselves <i>don't even hold the copyright</i> on the reviews in question (the authors do), but the settlement seems to presume that the sites hold the rights.
<br /><br />
Unfortunately, because of the nature of the settlement, and Google's willingness to allow companies to opt-out of parts of its aggregation efforts in vertical search, it's going to falsely lead some to believe that anyone else doing this may, in fact, be in violation of antitrust laws.  The end result may scare companies off from doing useful innovation, relying on fair use to aggregate content online, and may also increase the burden on the FTC in dealing with similar claims from companies.  That would be an unfortunate end result.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130103/16474721574/one-problem-with-ftcgoogle-settlement-implies-fair-use-scraping-is-antitrust-issue.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130103/16474721574/one-problem-with-ftcgoogle-settlement-implies-fair-use-scraping-is-antitrust-issue.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130103/16474721574/one-problem-with-ftcgoogle-settlement-implies-fair-use-scraping-is-antitrust-issue.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:06:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Rupert Murdoch Admits Defeat: Now Wants London Times To Appear In Search Results</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Remember back in 2009, when Techdirt <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091108/2223416852.shtml">reported</a> that Rupert Murdoch hated Google so much he had decided to block the search engine from indexing his titles, even though this would inevitably cut down their visibility and online traffic?  He obviously thought that he would put this upstart technology in its place, showing that mighty media moguls don't need this Internet thing in order to flourish just like they did 50 years ago.  According to this story in paidContent, <a href="http://paidcontent.org/2012/09/26/timesunblockssearch/">it seems that strategy hasn't worked out too well</a>:

<i><blockquote>In the next few weeks, paidContent understands The Times' website <b>will begin showing articles' first two sentences to search engines</b>, in a marketing exercise designed to attract new subscribers.
<br /><br />
The limited free preview does not alter News International's belief that it should continue charging for The Times (visitors will be invited to subscribe to read full articles). But it does suggest that, having signed up 130,751 digital subscribers since mid-2010, the publisher is <b>having to look in new places to maintain customer acquisition momentum</b>.</blockquote></i>

This shows that Murdoch has finally realized that being left out of Google is the online equivalent of not being listed in telephone directories in earlier times.  It also suggests that attempts to gain subscribers for the online edition in other ways are not going so swimmingly, which must raise questions over the long-term viability of the paywalled approach for this title.
</p><p>
Murdoch's move comes at an interesting time for the newspaper industry in Germany.  As we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120305/09161017982/german-government-wants-google-to-pay-to-show-news-snippets.shtml">discussed</a> recently, a law currently being considered there would require snippets to be licensed and paid for on the basis that search engines are gaining a benefit from even these short extracts.  By allowing his title to be indexed and short excerpts to be displayed for free, Murdoch is essentially admitting that the marketing value of snippets to him outweighs any nominal loss due to Google's supposed free-riding -- as Techdirt <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120821/16550420117/under-logic-german-pay-to-link-proposal-if-german-publication-wastes-my-time-i-can-send-them-bill.shtml">suggested</a> -- thus undermining the supposed justification for the German proposal.
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<pubDate>Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:28:01 PST</pubDate>
<title>German Government Wants Google To Pay To Show News Snippets</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Some bad ideas just keep on coming back, despite the fact that they are manifestly stupid.  Trying to get Google and others to pay for the privilege of sending more traffic to newspapers by including short snippets from their stories is one of them.  Of course, logic would dictate that the newspapers should be paying Google for the marketing it provides, but unfortunately not everyone sees it that way.  
</p><p>
Last year, the Belgian courts <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110508/16543114199/belgian-appeals-court-says-google-must-pay-up-linking-to-newspaper-websites.shtml">decided</a> that Google was infringing on newspapers' copyrights just by linking to stories.  Google was ordered to remove those links, at which point the newspapers started <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/04055115139/newspapers-win-suit-against-google-get-their-wish-to-be-delisted-then-complain.shtml">whining</a> about "harsh retaliation" -- even though it was the court's decision, not Google's, and it was the newspapers' legal action that brought this about.
</p><p>
Sadly, the German government doesn't seem to have been paying attention to that rather ridiculous saga -- or maybe simply doesn't care -- and has just announced that it will bring in a compulsory licensing scheme for the use of even "small parts" of journalistic articles on commercial sites (<a href="http://netzpolitik.org/2012/axel-springer-kauft-leistungsschutzrecht-bei-koalition/">original German</a>).  
</p><p>
The justification is that this will allow publishers to share in the financial benefit arising from this use, and for authors of the articles to receive an "appropriate" contribution, whatever that means.  To do that, of course, will require the creation of yet more bureaucracy: a new collecting society (let's hope it doesn't turn out like the German music collection agency <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120225/02270617882/sony-music-exec-internet-is-full-opportunities-not-problem-intransigent-collection-societies-however.shtml">GEMA</a>.)  
</p><p>
What that overlooks, of course, is that Google, clearly the main target here, doesn't make any money from its Google News service, which is ad free.  It would be nice to see Google simply remove all links, as happened in Belgium, and then wait for the German publishers to start complaining about this further example of "harsh retaliation".  Sadly, that's unlikely to happen, since Google tends not to take a particularly aggressive stance on these issues (probably hoping to avoid further <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120224/03464017863/patent-aggressor-microsoft-files-eu-complaint-against-googlemotorola-charging-too-much-to-license-patents.shtml">anti-trust complaints</a>.)
</p><p>
Of course, the analysis above assumes that the still extremely vague proposal is simply a plan to skim some money off major Internet players like Google and to hand it to the German publishing industry so the latter doesn't need to worry about innovating.  But given that the copyright industries' sense of entitlement knows no bounds, it's even possible that publishers want this scheme to apply to <b>every</b> quotation from their newspapers and magazines -- including those in blogs with any Google Ads, say, and Facebook posts.  Now might be a good time for German Internet users to start raising the alarm, just in case.
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:04:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Did European Court Just Make Search Engines Illegal? 11-Word Snippet Can Be Copyright Infringement</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ With the AP being out there claiming that fair use only covers snippets <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080617/0740561432.shtml">fewer than five words</a>, there are some questions about where the boundaries for "fair use" of "snippets" lies.  Unfortunately, a new ruling in Europe seems to be pretty extreme (in a bad way).  The ruling found that <a href="http://www.out-law.com//default.aspx?page=10205" target="_new">a snippet as short as eleven words could be copyright infringement</a>.  The case involved a clipping service, that would scan in articles (from print publications) and then would give clients very short snippets that highlighted the keywords they were monitoring.  In many ways, this sounds like the physical equivalent of any online search engine.  The clipping company claimed that it was legal because it was "transient," but the court said that since the service printed the output on paper, it was "permanent."  Yikes.
<br /><br />
While the online world is a little different, it's not too difficult to see how someone could make a case that a search engine is doing the <i>identical</i> thing to what the clipping company was doing here, and the question of whether or not the result is "transient" or "permanent" is entirely dependent on the end-user -- which was part of why the court found paper to be permanent:
<blockquote><i>
"Since the data capture process is apparently not likely itself to destroy that medium, the deletion of that reproduction is entirely dependent on the will of the user of that process. It is not at all certain that he will want to dispose of the reproduction, which means that there is a risk that the reproduction will remain in existence for a longer period, according to the user's needs,"
</i></blockquote>
Certainly, you could say the same thing about a search engine result (the end-user could certainly store them -- or [gasp!] print them), and then you've got the same problem.  No matter how you look at it, this is a bad ruling.  It makes little sense from the perspective of publishers, clipping services, users or the entire online world.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090728/0347535682.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090728/0347535682.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090728/0347535682.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:12:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Could Your Website Be Liable For The Way Google's Algorithm Summarizes It?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Ruby writes in to let us know that a Dutch website, Miljoenhuizen.nl, <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/02/google_snippet/" target="_new">has been found liable for the way that Google summarized the content on the website</a>.  Google, of course, has algorithms that try to summarize the contents of a page in a snippet so that you know what's behind the link, and how it relates to the search that you do.  As a part of that, it often will show parts of sentences connected by ellipses, and that's what happened here.  The snippet on Google read:
<blockquote><i>
Complete name: Zwartepoorte Specialiteit: BMW...This company has been declared bankrupt, it has been acquired by the motordealer I have worked for Boat Rialto...
</i></blockquote>
This upset Zwartepoorte, an auto dealer, who felt that this summary falsely stated that it had gone bankrupt... so it sued the underlying site.  It's quite surprising (on a number of different levels) that it didn't sue Google as well (or instead).  However, the court actually agreed that this was the fault of the original website owner, and told Miljoenhuizen.nl to fix the website so that <i>Google</i> wouldn't summarize the site that way.  It's hard to fathom how this could possibly be Miljoenhuizen.nl's fault, though apparently someone from Miljoenhuizen.nl suggested that it could control that in the courtroom -- which likely resulted in the judge's ruling.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090602/0726155093.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090602/0726155093.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090602/0726155093.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:38:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>AP Exaggerates The 'Conversation' It's Having With Bloggers; Caught Copying Text From Bloggers As Well</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080617/2052581436.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ The situation with the Associated Press and its <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080617/0740561432.shtml">rapidly disintegrating</a> relationship with bloggers keeps getting worse.  First up, as a bunch of folks have sent in, some bloggers are noting that, despite the AP's own claims about quotes over five words long no longer being fair use, AP reporters <a href="http://patterico.com/2008/06/17/irony-alert-ap-attacks-blogs-for-quoting-their-stories-then-quotes-even-more-extensively-from-blogs/" target="_new">often quote huge chunks of text from bloggers</a>.  That link discusses an AP article just this week that quoted 154 words from a blog.  So will these "new guidelines" that the AP is supposedly working on with bloggers include guidelines for itself?  What about payment and licensing terms?  And, honestly, what happens if a blog now quotes the passages quoted <a href="http://www.pe.com/ap_news/California/CA_Obscenity_or_Art_346090C.shtml">in the AP article itself</a>.  At 154 words, will they receive a DMCA takedown notice?
<br /><br />
Oh, and as for that supposed "meeting" to hammer out guidelines with the "Media Bloggers Association," it turns out that's quite an exaggeration as well.  With a bunch of folks <a href="http://gawker.com/tag/associated-press/?i=5017053&#038;t=who-put-these-bloggers-in-charge">questioning</a> who put the previously unheard of "Media Bloggers Association" in charge of determining what bloggers will accept, an interview with the head of that group shows that his meeting isn't to hammer out any such guidelines -- but was simply intended to <a href="http://culturekitchen.com/liza/blog/exclusive_robert_cox_answers_some_questions_about_">present the Drudge Retort's side of the story</a>.  Rogers Cadenhead <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20080617/0740561432#c271">asked</a> the head of the group to speak on <i>his</i> behalf to the AP.  It's the AP that's turned this meeting into the Media Bloggers Association representing all bloggers, rather than just Cadenhead.
<br /><br />
So, now we've got the AP caught not just breaking its own rules (by a wide, wide margin), but also exaggerating the nature of the "conversation" it's supposedly having with the bloggers who are upset by its actions.  Do people still think that bloggers were overreacting in calling the AP out on its actions?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080617/2052581436.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080617/2052581436.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080617/2052581436.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:28:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>AP Goes After Bloggers For Posting Article Headlines And Snippets</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last fall, the Associated Press claimed that it was ready to change to face the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071102/025323.shtml">new internet world</a> -- and that meant not just being a gatekeeper, but joining in the conversation.  As we noted at the time, though, AP execs said all that, only to immediately follow that up with plans that looked like it was trying to become a new type of gatekeeper.  It didn't help that the company had also just <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071009/185531.shtml">sued VeriSign's Moreover division</a> for linking to AP stories along with a title and a tiny excerpt.  That sort of thing is clearly fair use -- but the AP doesn't seem to think so.
<br /><br />
And, now, it's expanding its target list.  Rather than just going after the big aggregators (surprisingly, Google <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060803/0851258.shtml">settled</a>), it appears that the Associated Press is going after bloggers for merely posting a linked headline and a tiny snippet of text from the article.  In this case, Rogers Cadenhead informs us that the AP <a href="http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/3368/ap-files-7-dmca-takedowns-against-drudge" target="_new">sent 7 DMCA takedown notices last week</a> to his site, the Drudge Retort (a site that mocks the Drudge Report).   In six cases, a blog post on the site quoted just a small snippet of text from an AP article (between 33 and 79 words -- nowhere near the full length of the article).  In every case, they also contained links back to the original AP article.  Five of the six used a different headline than the original AP article.  The other complaint was about a comment to a blog post, which also included a very short snippet and a link.
<br /><br />
On the face of it, it's nearly impossible to see how this isn't fair use, even though an AP representative insists it's not:
<blockquote><i>
The use is not fair use simply because the work copied happened to be a news article and that the use is of the headline and the first few sentences only. This is a misunderstanding of the doctrine of "fair use." AP considers taking the headline and lede of a story without a proper license to be an infringement of its copyrights, and additionally constitutes "hot news" misappropriation.
</i></blockquote>
Hopefully, they won't send a takedown notice for quoting that.  This is pure bullying on the part of the Associated Press, and a clear overstepping of its legal rights.  It's most certainly <i>not</i> a sign that the organization has adapted to the internet age.  In fact, the most amazing thing is that these types of uses (a snippet and a link) clearly <i>help drive more traffic</i> to those AP articles.  This is a pure "shoot-self-in-the-foot" move by the Associated Press -- and if they have any sense of decency they should issue a very public apology.  
<br /><br />
In the meantime, since the Associated Press apparently no longer wants traffic, we'll start looking for other sources when linking to stories.  I can't promise we won't link to any AP stories (they're everywhere), but given the opportunity we'd prefer to link to a news organization that's happy to accept our traffic, rather than one that might sue us for pointing people their way.  This is quite unfortunate, as there are many AP reporters who read this site, and with whom I have come to build a strong relationship.  I think they're quite good reporters, and it's too bad they work for such a short-sighted organization.
<br /><br />
<b>Update</b>: Someone from the AP has <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20080613/0117561394#c86">posted a response in the comments</a>.  It makes some claims that simply do not seem to represent reality, including trying to define what is and is not "the link-based culture of the Internet."  It claims that it won't go after snippets -- but doesn't explain why that's exactly what it <i>did</i>.  And then it responds to a blog post from Jeff Jarvis that I have not seen and did not reference.  If the AP seriously wants to respond, why not respond to what is actually happening or what we actually said, rather than someone else. <b>Update 2</b>: I should also note that the comment from the AP includes what appears to be a bit of a sales pitch suggesting that bloggers <i>license</i> AP articles.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080613/0117561394.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080613/0117561394.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080613/0117561394.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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