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<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:39:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Rice University Professor: SkyNET's Gonna Take Ur Jerbs!</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>
It's sad to note how collective humanity has done an ostrich on the warnings about the machines. Still the NFL exists, robbing us of our best and brightest, who will no longer be available for the <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110215/14082113113/nfl-skynet-there-can-be-only-one.shtml">coming war</a> with SkyNET. Conferences on what to do about the surely coming robot horde have <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/10403721148/cambridge-proposes-new-centre-to-study-ways-technology-may-make-humans-extinct.shtml">produced little</a> in the way of a path forward and have gone relatively unreported in any case. Due to this, we know very little about what form the non-existent threat of terminator-like metal monsters will take. Will they simply wage war against us? Will they syphon our body heat for energy? Will they farm our skin and dance around in it to <i>Goodbye Horses</i>, like some kind of graphite Buffalo Bill?
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Not according to Rice University professor Moshe Vardi, who <a href="http://singularityhub.com/2013/05/15/moshe-vardi-robots-could-put-humans-out-of-work-by-2045/">claims that they have a far more terrifying plan in store</a>: displacing the human workforce.
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<br /> According to Vardi, sometime around the year 2045, you won't have a job any longer because the robots will have taken it away from you.
<blockquote>
<i>In <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/10/the-consequences-of-machine-intelligence/264066/">recent writings</a>, Vardi traces the evolution of the idea that artificial intelligence may one day surpass human intelligence, from Turing to Kurzweil, and considers the recent rate of progress. Although early predictions proved too aggressive, in the space of 15 years we&rsquo;ve gone from Deep Blue beating Kasparov at chess to self-driving cars and Watson beating Jeopardy champs Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter. Extrapolating into the future, Vardi thinks it&rsquo;s reasonable to believe intelligent machines may one day replace human workers almost entirely and in the process put millions out of work permanently.</i>
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Well, looking back through the history of technological progress, you can certainly see his point. And once you've seen that point, you can laugh at it. And once you've laughed at it, you can call his local police station and request that they remove any science fiction movies from his home by force, because he's clearly seen too many of them.
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The problem with thinking that artificial intelligence is going to replace us in the workforce is two-fold. First, it cheaply ignores the impact every other form of technological progress has had thus far. Robots are used on assembly lines, yet there's no drastic net loss of jobs. When the automobile was invented, it isn't as though the buggy whip makers simply died off in unemployed starvation. There are other jobs to be had, most often created as a direct result of the advance in technology. Assembly line workers become machinists. Buggy whip makers go to work for the auto companies. There can be pain in the market in the short term as it is disrupted, but on a long enough timeline everything seems to even back out.
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The second problem is the failure to recognize that people value some products and services provided by our fellow meat-sacks. Can auto-attendant systems handle phone duties? Sure, but there are tons of companies that specifically advertise the concept of customers being able to talk to a "real" person. Can machines make rugs? Yup, yet there's a huge market in hand-woven rugs out there. And the service industries rely heavily on personality. A machine might be able to serve me my beer at my local watering hole, but will it listen to me complain about my job if I'm having a crappy day? Will it be able to offer me an opinion on which wine is the best on the menu? And, as the article notes, what if any workforce disruption that <i>does</i> occur is desirable?
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<i>Perhaps in the future, while some of us work hard to build and program super-intelligent machines, others will work hard to entertain, theorize, philosophize, and make uniquely human creative works, maybe even pair with machines to accomplish these things. These may seem like niche careers for the few and talented. But at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, jobs of the mind in general were niche careers.</i>
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I call dibs on being the new Socrates.
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:07:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Cambridge Proposes New Centre To Study Ways Technology May Make Humans Extinct</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As the march of technology progresses, folks are coming up with all kinds of interesting questions regarding the machines we use every day. I wrote a while back about a one researcher questioning whether or not robots <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120905/06254220281/should-robots-get-rights.shtml">deserve rights</a>, for instance. On the flip side of the benevolence coin, I also had the distinct pleasure of discussing one sports journalist's opinion that we had to outlaw <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110215/14082113113/nfl-skynet-there-can-be-only-one.shtml">American football</a> as we know it today for the obvious reason that the machines are preparing to take over and s#@% is about to get&nbsp;<i>real</i>.<br />
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Hyperbole aside, one group is proposing a <a href="http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/humanitys-last-invention-and-our-uncertain-future/">more reasonable, nuanced platform to study possible pitfalls</a> regarding technology and mankind&#39;s dominance over it.
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<i>A philosopher, a scientist and a software engineer have come together to propose a new centre at Cambridge, the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER), to address these cases &ndash; from developments in bio and nanotechnology to extreme climate change and even artificial intelligence &ndash; in which technology might pose "extinction-level" risks to our species.</i></blockquote>
Now, it would be quite easy to simply have a laugh at this proposal while writing off concerns about extinction-level technological disasters as being the thing of science fiction movies, and to some extent I wouldn't disagree with that notion, but this group certainly does appear to be keeping a level head about the subject. There doesn't seem to be a great deal of fear-mongering coming out of group, unlike what we see in cybersecurity debates, and the founding members of the group aren't exactly luddites. That said, even some of the group's members seem to realize how far-fetched this all sounds, such as Huw Price, the Bertrand Russell Professor of Philosophy and one of the group's founding members.
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<i>"Nature didn't anticipate us, and we in our turn shouldn't take AGI for granted. We need to take seriously the possibility that there might be a "Pandora's box" moment with AGI that, if missed, could be disastrous. I don't mean that we can predict this with certainty, no one is presently in a position to do that, but that's the point! With so much at stake, we need to do a better job of understanding the risks of potentially catastrophic technologies."</i></blockquote>
Unfortunately, the reasonable nature of Price's wish to simply study the potential of a problem does indeed lead to what seems to be laughable worries. For example, Price goes on to worry that an explosion in computing power and the possibility of software writing new software will relegate humanity to the back burner in competition with machines for global resources. My issue is that these researchers appear to equate intelligence with consciousness. Or, at the very least, they assume that a machine as intelligent as or even more intelligent than a human being will also have a human's motivation for dominance, expansion, or procreation (as in writing new software or creating more machines). Following the story logically, and having written a fictional novel discussing exactly that subject matter, I'm just not sure how the researchers got from point A to point B without a little science fiction magic worked into the mix.<br />
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So, while it would seem to be unreasonable to decry studying the subject, I would hope this or any other group looking at the possible negative impact of expanding technology would try to keep their sights on the most likely scenarios and stay away from the more fantastical, albeit entertaining, possibilities.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/10403721148/cambridge-proposes-new-centre-to-study-ways-technology-may-make-humans-extinct.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/10403721148/cambridge-proposes-new-centre-to-study-ways-technology-may-make-humans-extinct.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/10403721148/cambridge-proposes-new-centre-to-study-ways-technology-may-make-humans-extinct.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>DailyDirt: Help Me, Software, You're Our Only Hope...</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Everyone relies on software nowadays -- sometimes without even realizing it. But when an entire airline shuts down due to a computer outage, our dependence on technology becomes obvious. (And Skynet is simply reminding us who is really in charge.) Here are a few links on software projects that humans might want to keep an eye on.
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<li> <a title="http://www.technologyreview.com/article/37206/" href="http://bit.ly/kEAR4o">Wouldn't it be nice if there was software that could make sure that other software was crash-proof?</a> Who cares who watches the watchers... [<a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/article/37206/">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/16/976509/-The-No-Losers-Tax-Simplification-Proposal" href="http://bit.ly/kpz4Co">David Brin has suggested that computer algorithms could make US tax code much simpler.</a> However, Brin's proposal sounds like a software version of Utilitarianism -- with a way to exact taxes but without a calculus for fairness. [<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/16/976509/-The-No-Losers-Tax-Simplification-Proposal">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/88610-rybka-the-worlds-best-chess-engine-outlawed-and-disqualified" href="http://bit.ly/lJMMEZ">The world's best chess software has been caught cheating (because its human author copied from open source chess programs).</a> Sorry, Rybka, the International Computer Games Association (ICGA) says you can't play anymore. [<a href="http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/88610-rybka-the-worlds-best-chess-engine-outlawed-and-disqualified">url</a>]</li>
<li><b>To discover more interesting software-related content, <a title="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:29" href="http://bit.ly/h0iGmR">check out what's currently floating around the StumbleUpon universe.</a></b> [<a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:29">url</a>]  <a title="what's this?" href="#" class="whatsthis help_ddstumble">&nbsp;</a>
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<title>The NFL Or SkyNET: There Can Be Only One</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>We've all giggled at examples of technopanic in the past.&nbsp; We laughed at ER doctors warning about <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080730/1816441840.shtml">walking and texting</a> at the same time.&nbsp; We snickered at the notion that Google's steetview was a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080922/1902252333.shtml">threat to children</a>.&nbsp; Some of our palms may have met our faces at the notion that digital drugs could be a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080807/1935131924.shtml">real life danger</a>.</p><p>It turns out the joke is on us.&nbsp; SkyNET is coming, my friends, and we're going to lose the war.&nbsp; And you know why?&nbsp; Because of football, hockey and boxing.
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<p>
So says Rick Telander in a piece for the Chicago Sun Times, in which he declares that traumatic head injuries in those sports are <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/sports/telander/3807409-452/telander-brain-against-the-machines.html">stealing away our ability to fight the machines</a>.&nbsp; Seriously.&nbsp; I couldn't make this stuff up.&nbsp; To preface, it should be noted that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Telander">Telander</a> isn't some crackpot pseudo-journalist.&nbsp; He is the senior sports columnist for the Chicago Sun Times, hired away from Sports Illustrated, where he was also a Senior Writer.&nbsp; He attended Northwestern University on a football scholarship and then went to training camp with the Kansas City Chiefs.&nbsp; Personally, I think he might have taken a few blows to the head himself.
</p><p>
Telander starts off talking about the trauma of head injuries in pro sports, namely boxing, football and hockey.  We're okay so far.  Bruising from sustained blows to the head lead to long term medical effects in players -- something that is becoming a growing issue.&nbsp; Then Telander goes completely off the reservation in answering his own question as to why this is more important now than ever:
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&quot;Consider it wasn&rsquo;t until last year that the devious and know-nothing NFL Mild Traumatic Brain Injury Committee was restructured with seemingly authentic and un-buyable neurologists at the helm, and the word &lsquo;&lsquo;Mild&rsquo;&rsquo; was dropped altogether.&nbsp; Mild. Brain injury. Ha.&nbsp;&nbsp;I am reminded here of &lsquo;&lsquo;minor&rsquo;&rsquo; surgery, which, of course, is surgery on somebody else.&quot;</em></p></blockquote><p class="body.textrr">Hmm, well okay, the NFL is beginning to take brain injury more seriously.&nbsp; But the problem has been known for some time.&nbsp; It's thanks to boxers becoming pale drooling ghosts of their former selves that we have the term &quot;punch drunk&quot;.&nbsp; But whatever...
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<blockquote><p class="body.textrr"><em>&quot;Second, we live in a world that is progressing into a vast arena in which mankind has never lived, never even comprehended, the stadium of human-enhanced computer dominance. It is a place where intelligence, real or artificial, will be all. Scientists say that by as early as 2045 there may well be a computer that dwarfs mankind. By then, according to the current cover story in Time, a computer might exist that will surpass &lsquo;&lsquo;the brainpower equivalent to that of all human brains combined.&rsquo;&rsquo;&nbsp; That&rsquo;s smart. Unless we&rsquo;re really dumb. And we&rsquo;re not, except when we do dumb things, like let our heads get damaged continually and call it something like ringing a bell. In our new environment, how can anyone allow his or her IQ, or their children&rsquo;s, to be <span class="body.italic">lowered</span>?&quot;</em>
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<p class="body.textrr">Uh, what?&nbsp; Because technology is progressing, head injuries are now more important?&nbsp; And we can't play football?&nbsp; Or hockey?&nbsp; Or box?&nbsp; But why, Rick, why?
</p><blockquote>
<p class="body.textrr"><em>&quot;If you think the talk of silicon joining and even replacing the organic mind is nonsense, remember that your own laptop does the work a global library once did. Consider, as Time points out, that &lsquo;&lsquo;your average cell phone is about a millionth the size of, a millionth the price of and a thousand times more powerful than&rsquo;&rsquo; the best computer at MIT 40 years ago...But the olden days are gone. And you can be assured that if the battle between machines and humans ever becomes confrontational, it won&rsquo;t be won by fists and forearms, helmets and sticks to our delicate heads.&quot;</em>
</p></blockquote><p class="body.textrr">
And there you have it.&nbsp; We cannot have football, hockey or boxing because the war against the machines is coming and we're turning those who would lead us in that fight into men with brain-mush in their formerly bright heads.&nbsp; Because prospective General Brett Favre has clearly shown how acclimated with the <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5663024">dangers of technology</a> he is.&nbsp; And no one is <a href="http://paulknowsfootball.com/tag/chad-ochocino-twitter/">cautious</a> around new technology media like budding Admiral Chad Ochocino.&nbsp; Hell, I don't even want to think about a Colonel Patrick Kane leading the charge against a host of Terminators.</p>
<p>Once again, we <b>all agree</b> that brain injuries in sports are a bad thing.  But the idea that it's suddenly become more important due to the rise of the machines?  That seems like the product of one too many sports-related brain injuries.
</p>
<p class="body.textrr">My suggestion?&nbsp; Just make it mandatory that all machines on earth must do a ten year stint playing football or hockey.&nbsp; Today's matchup, the Texas Toasters up against the Rochester Refrigerators!&nbsp; Join us next week on ESPN when the Carolina Computers skate the ice against the San Diego Smartphones!&nbsp; I could go on, but I'll leave you with Boers and Bernstein's take on their radio show, the most listened to sports show in Chicago (the good stuff starts around 4 minutes and 30 seconds...):</p>
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<title>DailyDirt: Robot Helicopters</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Flying is a great mode of transportation.  Technically, though, there are a few different kinds of flying. Gliding or soaring like a sparrow (African or European, it doesn't matter) is fine, but the capabilities of a helicopter are sometimes much more useful.  Hovering and vertical take-offs are really neat tricks.  Maybe not as neat as a Firefly "<a href="http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Crazy_Ivan">Crazy Ivan</a>" -- but it's a bit unfair to compare fictional flying maneuvers to actual aerial feats.  Anyway, here are a few cool robotic helicopters. 
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<li> <a onclick="javascript: pageTracker._trackEvent('DaliyDirt', 'off-site link', 'RobotHelicopters - 1');" title="http://mashable.com/2011/01/16/autonomous-quadroters/" href="http://bit.ly/hpnDIP">Autonomous helicopters from the University of Pennsylvania can work together in teams to build simple structures.</a>  It would have been a bit creepier if the video demonstrated a honeycomb structure being built. [<a href="http://mashable.com/2011/01/16/autonomous-quadroters/">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a onclick="javascript: pageTracker._trackEvent('DaliyDirt', 'off-site link', 'RobotHelicopters - 2');" title="http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-robotic-tree-helicopter-video.html" href="http://bit.ly/ekwLWn">Artificial "samaras" are little flying helicopters -- modeled after the single-wing seeds that drop from maple trees.</a>  These robotic samaras can climb, hover and move in arbitrary flight paths -- and if there's a updraft, they can stay afloat while expending minimal energy. [<a href="http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-robotic-tree-helicopter-video.html">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a onclick="javascript: pageTracker._trackEvent('DaliyDirt', 'off-site link', 'RobotHelicopters - 3');" title="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13639_3-20000488-42.html" href="http://bit.ly/dLB86t">Boeing's unmanned A160T Hummingbird can deliver cargo without endangering a helicopter pilot.</a>  And Skynet is <i>just</i> about to become self-aware.... [<a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13639_3-20000488-42.html">url</a>]</li>
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