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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:15:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Ticketmaster Trying To Cut Down On Scalpers... Or Increase Fee Collection For Itself?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090917/1747286227.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier this year, we had covered the news that Ticketmaster was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090609/1135485175.shtml">pushing paperless tickets</a> as a way to cut down on scalping, and now that story seems to be getting <a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/sns-ap-us-tec-ticketmaster-scalpers,0,6028675.story" target="_new">much wider coverage</a>.  The idea is that if you buy a ticket, you have to be the one to show up, with an ID and the credit card you used, in order to attend.  Ticketmaster will allow you to transfer... but it can limit the price of a transfer <i>and</i> charge you a fee for the transfer.  That makes it seem like this is a lot more about collecting more fees from the secondary market, than really cutting down on scalping.  Not to mention that it seems likely to cause problems.  How do you handle buying tickets for someone else as a gift?  Under this system, you'd need to buy... and then "transfer" at a fee.  And what if you really can't go, but the ticket has already been transferred once (a limit they set on the system).  Finally, does it really make sense to block out basic market mechanisms?  I recognize that there's an issue of scalpers buying up huge blocks of tickets, but there are better mechanisms to deal with that, that don't involve limiting what legitimate purchasers can do with their tickets.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090917/1747286227.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090917/1747286227.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090917/1747286227.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>some-good,-some-bad</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:46:53 PDT</pubDate>
<title>If Downloading A Song Is Just Like Stealing A CD, Why Won't The RIAA Allow Reselling MP3s?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ When you hear RIAA defenders insist that an unauthorized download is "just like stealing a CD" or something along those lines, it's worth noting even they don't really mean it.  After all, if a digital file really was no different than a physical goods purchase, then you'd be able to do other things with it -- such as resell it.  And yet, as you read through Eliot Van Buskirk's article about new online services trying to <a href="http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-06-18/music/byte-this/" target="_new">create marketplaces for people to sell their "used" MP3s</a>, you'll see the scenario is quite different.  After all, it's perfectly legal to sell your used CDs, but now when it comes to selling used MP3s you need a record label's permission?  Why?  Well, because even the record labels seem to inherently know that a CD is quite different from a download.  So when the RIAA claims they're the same, what they really mean is "only the stuff we like is the same."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>either-it-is-or-it-isn't</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:20:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Schumer Tries To Force Scalpers To Register; Limit How They Buy And Sell Tickets</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090406/2144414414.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's been plenty of complaining about how ticket scalpers for various concerts and sporting events have been scooping up all of the tickets for events and making it more expensive for fans to get those tickets.  Of course, in many cases, companies like TicketMaster and the musicians themselves are <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090312/0729224090.shtml">in on the deal</a>, pretending to offer "scalped" tickets that they're really selling themselves.  With so much talk about this issue, you knew it was only a matter of time until some grandstanding politician got involved.  In this case, it's New York's Chuck Schumer, who has <a href="http://schumer.senate.gov/new_website/record.cfm?id=311230" target="_new">introduced new legislation to try to limit ticket reselling</a> (thanks to <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/" target="_new">Eric Goldman</a> for sending this over).  It will require ticket resellers to "register" with the FTC, and then such official resellers will only be allowed to get tickets two days after the tickets go on sale.
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It's difficult to see what good this does, other than create a bigger bureaucratic mess.  If you don't think that the ticket resellers will figure out workarounds, you haven't been paying much attention over the past few years.  Besides, the very fact that Ticketmaster thinks this is a good law is a pretty damning sign that it's not doing much to solve the problem, but is really designed to help Ticketmaster make more money.
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It's still difficult to see why these issues can't be solved effectively without legislation.  Bands can offer early tickets through fan clubs or mailing lists, or use other tools to make sure fans get tickets at lower prices.  Besides, if the demand really is that high for certain tickets, what's wrong with letting the market determine that?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090406/2144414414.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090406/2144414414.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090406/2144414414.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>is-this-needed?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:34:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>No You Can't Sign Up For A Comcast Account And Resell It Throughout Your Building</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090331/0142524318.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While some progressive ISPs such as Speakeasy have <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20030701/1637233_F.shtml">allowed</a> customers to "resell" their connections via WiFi, most broadband providers frown on the practice.  They don't seem to mind the casual sharing between neighbors, but it's not too surprising to see Comcast <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-Sues-Maryland-WISP-for-Bandwidth-Theft-101616" target="_new">sue a guy who tried to set up an entire wireless ISP business this way</a>.  It's almost creative... he subscribed to Comcast broadband at 35 different condos, and then advertised his own "connectivity" within each of those buildings.  It's hard to believe his defense will work:
<blockquote><i>
He said Comcast signals are often used to power wireless networks at places like Internet cafes and other businesses that charge users for access. "This is a practice that happens throughout any city," Clark said. "Unfortunately, we're one of the bigger guys in town - so, here we are."
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I think he'll find that most businesses reselling access aren't using residential Comcast connections -- and even if they are, they're offering very short, temporary connections, rather than permanent service.  While I actually think plans like the Speakeasy plan we discussed that allow subscribers to resell their connections is <i>smart</i>, that doesn't mean that this guy is going to get away with this "business."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090331/0142524318.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090331/0142524318.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090331/0142524318.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>or-do-it-35-times</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:53:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Vancouver Olympics Using Copyright Law (Rather Than Scalping Laws) To Ban Ticket Reselling</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090319/1850154187.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Michael_S points us to the news that the Vancouver Olympics -- no stranger to massive <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070305/092327.shtml">abuse</a> of intellectual property law -- is now <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/03/18/sp-amateur-vanoc-suit-tickets.html" target="_new">using copyright law to prevent ticket resales</a>.  Now, lots of places around the world have anti-scalping laws that forbid reselling of event tickets (or reselling them above a certain price).  Vancouver, however, does not have any such law.  No problem for the Olympics folks... they're using the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070305/092327.shtml">special copyright they were granted</a> on a whole host of common terms, including "Vancouver 2010" to sue resellers offering the tickets.  Obviously, that's got nothing to do with the purpose of copyright law, but when you grant silly monopolies, don't be surprised when they're abused.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090319/1850154187.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090319/1850154187.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090319/1850154187.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>misuse-of-copyright</slash:department>
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