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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:03:21 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Bizarre Trend: Journalism Professors Using Klout Scores As Part Of Students' Grades</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've raised <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110602/13420414530/activity-is-not-influence.shtml">questions</a> in the past about the relevance of "Klout" scores.  If you don't know, Klout is one of a few companies that try to measure "influence" online by looking at your social media activity.   The whole process seems kind of silly, but for whatever reason, once you put a number on things, people take it seriously, no matter how bogus the number might be.  Lots of companies now use Klout scores to determine who they should give special perks to, leading to plenty of people just trying to game their scores.  However, should Klout scores count towards your <i>grade</i> as a student? Adam Singer sent over examples of two separate journalism professors who think so.
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In both cases, the professors admit that Klout scores may not be particularly accurate, but both have interesting defenses for including the score as part of the grades that students get.  Todd Bacile, from Florida State University, argues that even if people think Klout is inaccurate or silly, since others are taking it seriously, <a href="http://www.businessesgrow.com/2012/08/26/florida-state-university-class-using-klout-to-determine-student-grades/" target="_blank">students need to take it seriously too</a>.  Even if it's a problem-perpetuating situation, he argues that he's being something of a realist and merely preparing his students for the real world, where they'll be judged by their Klout scores whether they like it or not -- and thus one project (but not the entire grade for the course) will be graded based on Klout scores:
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Most people seem to either <a href="http://econsultancy.com/us/blog/10408-why-people-hate-klout-and-how-to-fix-it" target="_blank">love or hate Klout</a>, so the notion of assigning a portion of a student&#8217;s grade to their respective Klout score may cause some to react &#8230; what&#8217;s a good word to use here &#8230; fretfully. Yet, as an educator teaching electronic marketing at the collegiate level I owe it to my students to introduce them to every and any concept that will help them land an internship or fulltime job.
<strong>Klout matters to employers</strong>
<p>And here is an inescapable fact. Many firms are sizing up college student&#8217;s Klout scores as a quantitative metric to use for <a href="http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/getting-your-klout-out-131629" target="_blank">job applicant screening</a>. Therefore, I decided to create a class project in which the final grade earned is solely determined by a student&#8217;s Klout score.
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For whatever it's worth, he notes that his students have massively increased their Klout scores because of this.  He also claims that by having them focus on Klout scores -- something that could constantly be measured -- it actually kept students more engaged:
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An experiential project like this proved to be enjoyable for the students and maintained their attention and enthusiasm throughout the semester. Many students would compare scores and discuss different techniques used to engage with powerful opinion leaders within the social world. Which students had higher scores became a friendly competition causing students to work even harder at engaging others. Imagine that: students wanting to work more to develop skills that current marketing employers are searching for!
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Bacile has since noted that when he presented this idea at a conference, other professors told him <a href="http://toddbacile.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/buzz-debates-insults-the-klout-in-the-classroom-controversy/" target="_blank">they were going to do the same thing</a>.
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The second story Singer sent over is from Ryan Thornburg, who teaches journalism at UNC, and who is also using Klout as part of the grade (in this case, counting as 20% of it).  Thornburg also admits, quite directly, that Klout is probably "overly simplistic."  So why is he doing this?  Because he thinks that it <a href="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2012/10/klout-in-the-classroom-grading-students-on-social-media-use281.html" target="_blank">forces students to do actual experiments</a> in which they can all learn how Klout works, and see if they can improve it.
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How is that possibly fair to students who are struggling to raise this arbitrary number that's contrived inside a black box? It's fair because it transforms the class from a workshop on button-pushing to an exercise in hypothesis testing, strategy and critical thinking. Students -- who often approach grades with calculating economy of effort -- don't know what they have to do to boost their Klout scores, so they are forced to design simple experiments, isolate variables, and generalize their findings.
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In the end, he notes that perhaps his best students will actually be able to <i>build a better Klout</i>.
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I'll admit that my initial reaction to these stories was horror.  The idea of basing grades on a silly system like Klout certainly feels very, very wrong.  However, the explanations and defenses from both professors have me rethinking that stance somewhat.  Is it really all that different from "teaching to the test", as some teachers do for standardized testing?  An SAT score may not really tell us much of anything, but it is important for many colleges, so is it a surprise that teachers help their students optimize for it?  While we can quite reasonably worry that focusing on Klout has students optimizing less useful skills, from an experimental standpoint, perhaps it's not such a crazy idea.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/01463320773/bizarre-trend-journalism-professors-using-klout-scores-as-part-students-grades.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/01463320773/bizarre-trend-journalism-professors-using-klout-scores-as-part-students-grades.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/01463320773/bizarre-trend-journalism-professors-using-klout-scores-as-part-students-grades.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: How Do You Solve A Problem Like... Academia?</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Getting a tenured professorship position has been the dream job of a multitude of highly-educated researchers, but as funding cuts have hit public universities, these careers aren't looking as attractive as they once did. The academic system may soon be looking at some significant changes if the promise of tenure no longer serves to compensate underpaid educators. Here are just a few complaints about the current system, and feel free to suggest some solutions in the comments....

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<li> <a title="http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Are-Associate-Professors/132071/" href="http://bit.ly/P19ulf">Associate professors are unhappy (significantly less satisfied than assistant or full professors)... with the monotony of writing research grants, publishing and teaching.</a> Maybe it's a mid-life crisis, or just the realization that there's not much appreciation for teachers in general. #firstworldproblems? [<a href="http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Are-Associate-Professors/132071/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.ivygateblog.com/2009/04/columbia-prof-breaks-rank-cites-problems-with-academia/" href="http://bit.ly/Oaz2Sj">The problems with academia are nothing new -- graduate education has been called the "Detroit of higher learning" for a while now.</a> Full-time professors probably shouldn't complain too much around grad students and adjunct professors, though. [<a href="http://www.ivygateblog.com/2009/04/columbia-prof-breaks-rank-cites-problems-with-academia/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://cs.unm.edu/~terran/academic_blog/?p=113" href="http://bit.ly/MXrAFk">Tenured CS prof Terran Lane explains why he resigned from his position to go work at Google.</a> "<i>We're being paid partly in cool. If you take away the cool parts of the job, you might as well go make more money elsewhere.</i>" [<a href="http://cs.unm.edu/~terran/academic_blog/?p=113">url</a>]</li>

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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:31:37 PST</pubDate>
<title>Over 100 Lawyers, Law Professors &#038; Practitioners Come Out Against SOPA</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Supporters of SOPA keep tossing out Floyd Abrams' name as if it's some talisman, and that his word is final.  Last I checked, Floyd Abrams is not the Supreme Court.  Indeed, he's not even one of the nine justices.  Or a judge at all. And his opinion is just one -- well respected -- lawyer's opinion.  In fact, Abrams opinion concerning SOPA isn't even his own unbiased opinion.  His opinion was written on behalf of his clients, including the MPAA and other lobbyists in favor of SOPA.  And, even then, Abrams still admitted that SOPA would lead to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111111/16242216727/first-amendment-expert-floyd-abrams-admits-sopa-would-censor-protected-speech-thinks-its-okay-collateral-damage.shtml">the suppression of protected content</a>.  Either way, there are other lawyers out there, many of whom are just as well respected as Mr. Abrams.  And when over 100 such lawyers get together and <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/72807693/Law-Profs-Letter-Against-SOPA-PROTECT-IP" target="_blank">speak out against SOPA</a>, perhaps one might come to the conclusion that Abrams' opinion on the legal aspects is one in the minority.  This letter is a followup to the letter <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110705/01205814962/law-professors-come-out-against-protect-ip.shtml">sent earlier</a> about PROTECT IP, but noting that SOPA didn't fix any of the problems, and actually made many of them worse:
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While there are some differences between SOPA and PROTECT-­IP, nothing in SOPA makes any effort
to address the serious constitutional, innovation, and foreign policy concerns that we expressed in that
letter. Indeed, in many respects SOPA is even worse than PROTECT-­IP. Among other infirmities, it would:
<ul>
<li><u>Redefine the standard for copyright infringement on the Internet</u>, changing the definition of
inducement in a way that would not only conflict with Supreme Court precedent but would make
YouTube, Google, and numerous other web sites liable for copyright infringement.
</li><li><u>Allow the government to block Internet access</u> to any web site that "facilitated" copyright or trademark infringement -- a term that the Department of Justice currently interprets to require nothing more than having a link on a web page to another site that turns out to be infringing.
</li><li><u>Allow any private copyright or trademark owner to interfere</u> with the ability of web sites to host advertising or charge purchases to credit cards, putting enormous obstacles in the path of electronic commerce.
</li></ul>
Most significantly, it would do all of the above while violating our core tenets of due process. By failing to
guarantee the challenged web sites notice or an opportunity to be heard in court before their sites are shut
down, <b>SOPA represents the most ill-advised and destructive intellectual property legislation in recent
memory.</b>
<br /><br />
In sum, SOPA is a dangerous bill.  It threatens the most vibrant sector of our economy -- Internet commerce.  It is directly at odds with the United States' foreign policy of Internet openness, a fact that repressive regimes will seize upon to justify their censorship of the Internet.  And it violates the First Amendment.
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But... but... Floyd Abrams!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111115/17382616784/over-100-lawyers-law-professors-practitioners-come-out-against-sopa.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111115/17382616784/over-100-lawyers-law-professors-practitioners-come-out-against-sopa.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111115/17382616784/over-100-lawyers-law-professors-practitioners-come-out-against-sopa.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:32:15 PST</pubDate>
<title>Columbia Journalism School Staff Warns Obama That Prosecuting Wikileaks Will 'Set A Dangerous Precedent'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ While it's been unfortunate watching the traditional press <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101210/12513512236/how-press-misleads-about-wikileaks.shtml">attack Wikileaks</a> for doing the job it refused to do itself, it's nice to see the staff of Columbia's journalism school (still considered one of the top journalism schools) come out and warn the Obama administration that <a href="http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/romenesko/110885/columbia-j-school-staff-wikileaks-prosecution-sets-dangerous-precedent/" target="_blank">prosecuting Wikileaks will set a dangerous precedent for freedom of the press</a>, even for those who disagree with Wikileaks' methods:
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While we hold varying opinions of Wikileaks' methods and decisions, we all believe that in publishing diplomatic cables Wikileaks is engaging in journalistic activity protected by the First Amendment. Any prosecution of Wikileaks' staff for receiving, possessing or publishing classified materials <b>will set a dangerous precedent for reporters in any publication or medium, potentially chilling investigative journalism and other First Amendment-protected activity.</b>
<br /><br />
As a historical matter, government overreaction to publication of leaked material in the press has always been more damaging to American democracy than the leaks themselves.
<br /><br />
The U.S. and the First Amendment continue to set a world standard for freedom of the press, encouraging journalists in many nations to take significant risks on behalf of transparency. Prosecution in the Wikileaks case would greatly damage American standing in free-press debates worldwide and would dishearten those journalists looking to this nation for inspiration.
</i></blockquote>
Seems to more or less summarize the position we've taken over the last few weeks as well...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101214/13245612275/columbia-journalism-school-staff-warns-obama-that-prosecuting-wikileaks-will-set-dangerous-precedent.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101214/13245612275/columbia-journalism-school-staff-warns-obama-that-prosecuting-wikileaks-will-set-dangerous-precedent.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101214/13245612275/columbia-journalism-school-staff-warns-obama-that-prosecuting-wikileaks-will-set-dangerous-precedent.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:21:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Turning Off Internet In The Classroom Won't Make Lectures Any More Interesting</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Just about two years ago, we wrote about some law professors who were threatening to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060503/0941238.shtml">ban computers</a> in their classrooms because students just weren't paying attention.  While some apparently did so, perhaps it wasn't enough, because as <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/18/1310207&#038;from=rss">Slashdot</a> points out, the University of Chicago's law school has now decided to <a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/04/18/laptops" target="_new">pull the plug on classroom internet connections entirely</a>, as a dean was upset at how many students were surfing the web during class.  However, as we noted two years ago, this seems to say a lot more about the lecture quality than the internet access in the classroom.  Especially when it comes to a graduate school-level class, where students are supposedly actually interested in the subject, if the professor can't keep the attention of the class, that should be a problem for the professor to deal with, rather than by cutting off internet access.  Either way, with 3G wireless access (and eventually 4G) schools simply won't have control over internet access anyway.  So, if these schools are really concerned about it, rather than cutting off the connection they do have control over, perhaps they should focus on making the lecture experience more worthwhile.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080418/170854893.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080418/170854893.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080418/170854893.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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