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<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 17:27:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>AP's Attempt At DRM'ing The News Shuts Down</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Plenty of people rightly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090723/1858235640.shtml">mocked</a> the news a few years ago that the Associated Press was working on a plan to "DRM the news."  The idea was to put some sort of licensing mechanism together to get news aggregators to pay to promote their news.  This seemed incredibly dumb for a whole host of reasons.  It added no value.  Its only purpose was to limit the value for everyone in the system by putting a tollbooth where none needed to exist.  When it finally <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120110/04124117363/ap-finally-launches-newsright-its-righthaven-lite.shtml">launched</a> last year to great fanfare in the newspaper world, under the name "NewsRight," we pointed out that, once again, it made no sense.  Basically, the whole focus appeared to be on getting bloggers and aggregators to pay for a license they legally did not need.
<br /><br />
Since the launch... we heard absolutely nothing about NewsRight.  There was a launch, with its newspaper backers claiming it was some huge moment for newspapers, and then nothing.
<br /><br />
Well, until now, when we find out that <a href="http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/213614/newsright-ambitious-attempt-at-licensing-newspaper-content-quietly-folds/" target="_blank">NewsRight quietly shut down</a>.  Apparently, among its many problems, many of the big name news organization <i>that owned NewsRight</i> wouldn't even include their own works as part of the "license" because they <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2013/05/the-newsonomics-of-where-newsright-went-wrong/" target"_blank">feared cannibalizing revenue</a> from other sources.  So, take legacy companies that are backwards looking, combine it with a licensing scheme based on no legal right, a lack of any actual added value and (finally) mix in players who are scared of cannibalizing some cash cow... and it adds up to an easy failure.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/14465423109/aps-attempt-drming-news-shuts-down.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/14465423109/aps-attempt-drming-news-shuts-down.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130516/14465423109/aps-attempt-drming-news-shuts-down.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:03:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>No, Freak Gross Injuries Shouldn't Mean Media Outlets Can't Show Them</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>
Perhaps it's time we codified this, but it appears that for every horrible occurrence there will be an unequal, disproportionately large reaction to it. I humbly suggest we refer to this as Geigner's Law, because why the hell should Mike and Godwin be the only people with their name's attached to things? Regardless, it seems to me that this odd rule has been more greatly followed in the age of the internet. Terrorism got you down? Well, then obviously everyone should <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101103/17263511711/youtube-once-again-pressured-to-remove-terrorist-videos-feel-any-safer.shtml">censor</a> all things even remotely terrorist. A bunch of people lost their marbles and went on shooting rampages? Surely this means protected speech like videogames should face the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130221/12292022063/connecticut-state-senator-seeks-to-ban-minors-playing-arcade-games-utilizing-fake-guns.shtml">consequences</a>.
<br /><br />
And, now that anyone remotely interested in college basketball had to spend Sunday evening figuring out how to get their previously eaten Easter dinner out of their carpeting thanks to Kevin Ware's <i>disgustingly awful</i> injury on live television, it's apparently time to <a href="http://www.thevictoryformation.com/2013/04/01/no-video-why-must-we-replay-kevin-wares-injury/">call out any news outlet that showed the injury</a> in the aftermath.
<blockquote>
<i>Don&rsquo;t give me the Deadspin &ldquo;Warning: Very Gross&rdquo; alert either, as though that somehow absolves you from any sin; hell, the video embedded in that Deadspin post is stuck on a preview frame that pretty clearly shows Ware&rsquo;s shin bone sticking through his leg. Even if you don&rsquo;t want to watch the video, you don&rsquo;t really have a choice.</i></blockquote>
<blockquote>
<i>Sites like The Big Lead may have one-upped even the freeze frame preview; by initially including a fully animated GIF on their immediate blog post about the injury before pulling that GIF in favor of just the reaction shot of the Louisville bench, TBL managed to not only generate thousands (and possibly tens of thousands) of hits, but then were able to play the high and mighty, &ldquo;we&rsquo;re not going to show that anymore&rdquo; card a couple hours later &ndash; presumably after searches for &ldquo;Kevin Ware Injury&rdquo; had died down. It&rsquo;s hypocrisy of the highest magnitude.</i></blockquote>
Look, let me be super clear here: the Ware injury footage is <i>brutal</i>. The guy's shin bone snapped in half and the angle of the shots show it with cookie-tossing clarity. In my opinion, you shouldn't watch it, unless you've ingested some kind of poison and you're looking to throw it up. I wouldn't even think of embedding the video here. It's that bad.
<br /><br />
And that it's that bad is also my <i>opinion</i>. The simple fact of the matter is that sports is news, this injury is news, and the footage of it is news. We can argue all we want about whether that footage has <i>value</i> for the news consumer, and I'd argue it does as a matter of public inquiry, but that it's news cannot be doubted. There really is no argument to the contrary, as the article's author themselves note.
<blockquote>
<i>I don&rsquo;t care that it&rsquo;s &ldquo;newsworthy&rdquo; &ndash; write the story, and let the gawking onlookers go find the video for themselves.</i></blockquote>
Follow the two logical problems in these statements. First, don't show the footage, because everyone can already find it everywhere else. Surely calling on the media to censor themselves would <i>never</i> result in calls for similar censorship elsewhere, eventually disappearing this and perhaps even more newsworthy footage altogether. What could possibly go wrong? Secondly, if uncomfortable but newsworthy footage can be buried for something like sports under the notion that nobody should be getting "clicks" or money as a result of someone else's pain, does that also hold true for news items about war, gun-violence, murder, drugs, etc.?
<br /><br />
The fact is that the original premise was right, just pointed at the wrong target. Yes, in the age of the internet, people have choices in how they consume the news. What that means is <i>not</i> that the media should self-censor upsetting footage. It means that anyone, like me, who wants the news without that footage can indeed get it elsewhere.
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<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:36:18 PST</pubDate>
<title>The Problems Of Patent Trolls Continuing To Get Mainstream Attention</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's been a recent uptick in stories about patent trolling getting mainstream media attention, and the latest example is a recent segment on CBS's national morning program, <i>CBS This Morning</i>, which <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57560405/patent-trolls-how-some-say-theyre-hurting-u.s-economy" target="_blank">explored how patent trolls are hurting the US economy</a>, mainly by focusing on the story of Uniloc <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120923/23002120494/x-plane-developer-sued-patent-troll-ponders-shuttering-business-defending.shtml">suing</a> the maker of X-plane.
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When we last wrote about that lawsuit, X-plane developer Laminer Research wasn't sure if it was going to fight the lawsuit, but as you can see in the video above, Laminer's Austin Meyer has decided he's going to fight the case no matter what -- even if it costs him $1.5 million (way more than it would cost to settle).  Of course, this is how the trolls operate, by trying to make it cheaper to settle than to fight, but sometimes people have to take a stand and Meyer has decided to do exactly that.
<br /><br />
The overall piece is well done, and includes some excellent commentary from the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121219/17305721444/mark-cuban-funds-effs-new-mark-cuban-chair-to-eliminate-stupid-patents.shtml">newly appointed</a> Mark Cuban Chair to Eliminate Stupid Patents, Julie Samuels (though, the segment was apparently put together before she got that title, so she's merely described as the more mortal "EFF staff attorney" in the segment).
<br /><br />
Either way, the whole thing demonstrates in a nice capsule just how ridiculous patent trolling is and how prevalent it has become.  And, best of all, they really kept repeating the key point: this is hurting innovation in the US.  After the segment, done by Jeff Glor, one of the anchors specifically says to him: "So it sounds like this is really stifling innovation and it hurts small businesses!"  Yes, yes it is, but for years we've been told no one in the public cares.  However, as this issue gets more and more mainstream attention, people are going to realize that it cannot be allowed to continue.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121222/01200121474/problems-patent-trolls-continuing-to-get-mainstream-attention.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121222/01200121474/problems-patent-trolls-continuing-to-get-mainstream-attention.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121222/01200121474/problems-patent-trolls-continuing-to-get-mainstream-attention.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:35:14 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Google To French Media: We May Have To Cut You Off</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ If you're like me, you may have thought that France was simply a repository for cheese-eating surrender-monkeys. It turns out that's not true. They also have a wonderful court system that doesn't want to understand the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120918/20503120423/french-court-detaches-itself-reality-demands-tabloid-turn-over-original-topless-kate-middleton-photos.shtml">digital world</a>. That same French court system also managed to make a complete <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120913/06550920370/first-hadopi-victim-convicted-not-his-own-infringement-because-his-wife-downloaded-songs.shtml">mockery</a> of HADOPI, all while hysterically referring to their actions as "justice".<br />
<br />
But French lawmakers now have a new target in their crosshairs: Google. Lawmakers are reportedly considering legislation that will <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120906/02102920291/french-publishers-want-german-plan-to-force-everyone-to-pay-to-link-to-news.shtml">force search engines</a> to pay for sending French newspapers readers.
<blockquote>
<i>French newspaper publishers have been pushing for the law, saying it is unfair that Google receives advertising revenue from searches for news.</i></blockquote>
<blockquote>
<i>French Culture Minister Aurelie Filippetti also favours the idea.</i></blockquote>
This may be my favorite stance of all time. It's unfair that Google, a search engine, receives revenue on searches, i.e. their business, and it should instead go to news organizations that are not in the business of search but still receive the traffic. I am sure there's a word out there that properly describes the stupidity of this stance, but so far all the ones I'm coming up with involve the kind of language Mike keeps telling me I'm not allowed to use on Techdirt (which is [censored], by the way (oh, come on, <i>really?</i>)).<br />
<br />
Google, because they don't exist in the same non-logic-ungrateful-verse, and after apparently spending some time reading our comments section and picking up on some suggestions there, is now letting France know that if they go through with the law, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19996351">they'll simply exclude French media organizations</a> from search results. In addition, in a letter to lawmakers, they added:
<blockquote>
<i>Google said such a law "would threaten its very existence".</i><br />
<br />
<i>Google France had said earlier that the plan "would be harmful to the internet, internet users and news websites that benefit from substantial traffic" that comes via Google's search engine. It said it redirected four billion clicks to French media pages each month.</i></blockquote>
Which leaves France with an interesting choice. Continue on with their proposed legislative silliness and forfeit all the traffic Google sends French newspapers via search results, or retreat from their position, thus proving my ignorant American stereotyping of them correct. Your move, France!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13484820754/google-to-french-media-we-may-have-to-cut-you-off.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13484820754/google-to-french-media-we-may-have-to-cut-you-off.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/13484820754/google-to-french-media-we-may-have-to-cut-you-off.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:21:26 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Bangladesh Seeks To Throttle Independent News Sites And Their Awkward Stories</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>One of the great things about online news sites is that they are so easy to set up: you don't need a printing press or huge numbers of journalists -- you just start posting interesting stories to the Web and you are away.  That is, you do unless you happen to live in Bangladesh, where <a href="https://www.accessnow.org/blog/bangladesh-demands-high-licensing-fees-from-online-media">new regulations will make it much harder to set up news sites</a>, as this story from Access Now explains:

<i><blockquote>the regulation "stipulates that a onetime payment of Bangladeshi Taka 500,000 (USD $6,100) should be deposited with the Ministry of Information to get a license for an online news portal. Each year this license should be renewed by paying 50,000 Taka (USD $610). The license fee can be revised by the government at anytime."
<br /><br />
To put those numbers in context, the gross domestic product (GDP) per capita in Bangladesh, when adjusted for purchasing power parity, is roughly USD $1,700 per year. That ranks 196th in the world, right near the bottom.</blockquote></i>

Bangladesh is not only one of the poorest nations on earth, it also does <a href="http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2011-2012,1043.html">pretty badly when it comes to press freedom, ranking 129 out of 179</a> countries listed on Reporters Without Borders' Press Freedom Index for 2011-12.  The new regulations seem likely to push it further down that list, not least thanks to rules like these:

<i><blockquote>The following program/news should not be published/broadcast: &#8230; (b) Any news/program that is violating the main principles of the state and the governance; &#8230; (e) Any indecent or provocative satire/music/advertisement/news or any program with subtitles that may pollute, corrupt or hurt peoples' feeling and morality. &#8230; (k) Any news/program that may hurt the feeling of any friendly country.</blockquote></i>

Other requirements are that the servers running the news site must be located inside Bangladesh, and that their IP addresses must be provided to the Ministry of Information.  More bizarrely:

<i><blockquote>No local online portal should link to other local and international news portals.</blockquote></i>

As the Access Now piece points out, this suggests the Bangladeshi government doesn&#8217;t understand how the Internet works, since a news site without links to other online news stories is doomed to parochialism.
</p><p>
Or maybe that's the point.  After all, it seems pretty clear that the measures are designed to stifle dissent and criticism of the government by making it very hard for independent news sites to be created except by well-funded outfits more interested in profits than protest, and hobbling them in various ways even if they do.  It's particularly sad to see Bangladesh trying to restrict the use of a wonderful technology that could do so much to help lift its people from the difficult circumstances in which they live.
</p><p>
Follow me @glynmoody on <a href="http://twitter.com/glynmoody">Twitter</a> or <a href="http://identi.ca/glynmoody">identi.ca</a>, and on <a href="https://plus.google.com/100647702320088380533">Google+</a></p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121006/07022220627/bangladesh-seeks-to-throttle-independent-news-sites-their-awkward-stories.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121006/07022220627/bangladesh-seeks-to-throttle-independent-news-sites-their-awkward-stories.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121006/07022220627/bangladesh-seeks-to-throttle-independent-news-sites-their-awkward-stories.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:56:19 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Apple Feels Reporting Drone Strikes 'Objectionable And Crude' And Rejects App</title>
<dc:creator>Zachary Knight</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It seems that today you can&#39;t spit in the wind without hitting a story about some US drone killing a bunch of people in a country somewhere overseas. Every known drone strike is accompanied by news reports of the location and the number of people killed. Yet, even with all these stories about drone strikes, it can a daunting task for those interested in following them to keep up with them all. So what is a drone enthusiast, or someone just appalled by the frequency of the strikes, to do?<br />
<br />
One creative iPhone developer, Josh Begley, took the time to create an app that sought out news articles about drone strikes. When it would find one, it would send a push notification to the owner of the iPhone and then display a Google map of the area with a push pin of the location of the strike. He had hoped to have it released in the wild by now, but <a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/08/drone-app/" target="_blank">Apple keeps rejecting his application</a>.
<blockquote>
<i>It&rsquo;s the third time in a month that Apple has turned Drones+ away, says Josh Begley, the program&rsquo;s New York-based developer. The company&rsquo;s reasons for keeping the program out of the App Store keep shifting. First, Apple called the bare-bones application that aggregates news of U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia &ldquo;not useful.&rdquo; Then there was an issue with hiding a corporate logo. And now, there&rsquo;s this crude content problem.</i></blockquote>
It's this last rejection that has Josh scratching his head. How can a news aggregating application be in any way crude or objectionable? Yes, I know that many people feel that news reports from the mainstream media could easily be classified as such, but that is beside the point. This app provides a useful service for those who want to keep abreast of the latest news regarding drone strikes. It doesn&#39;t show graphic images or other caricatures of the attacks, merely a push pin and a link to the story. If it is the content that is objectionable, he may just turn to a less strict operating system for the next version.
<blockquote>
<i>Begley is about at his wits end over the iOS version of Drones+. &ldquo;I&rsquo;m kind of back at the drawing board about what exactly I&rsquo;m supposed to do,&rdquo; Begley said. The basic idea was to see if he could get App Store denizens a bit more interested in the U.S.&rsquo; secretive, robotic wars, with information on those wars popping up on their phones the same way an Instagram comment or retweet might. Instead, Begley&rsquo;s thinking about whether he&rsquo;d have a better shot making the same point in the Android Market.</i></blockquote>
Its this kind of rejection of an interesting and thought provoking app that will turn people away from walled gardens. We talked recently about Microsoft&#39;s moves toward further locking down Windows resulting in developers seeking the more <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120801/16375119910/game-developers-concerned-about-potentially-closed-windows-8.shtml">open alternative</a> of Linux. The same will happen with the iPhone. As more developers continue to have their apps rejected with little to no context, those developers will become much more frustrated with the whole process and leave for Android. Is this really the lesson that Apple wants young developers taking from this and similar experiences?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20120830/14470520223/apple-feels-reporting-drone-strikes-objectionable-crude-rejects-app.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20120830/14470520223/apple-feels-reporting-drone-strikes-objectionable-crude-rejects-app.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20120830/14470520223/apple-feels-reporting-drone-strikes-objectionable-crude-rejects-app.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Jun 2012 05:05:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>This Is Reporting? Fox News Ties Flame Malware To Angry Birds Because Both Use Lua</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We're often told that the big media companies need to be saved because of all the important expensive reporting work they do.  And then we see something absolutely ridiculous, such as Fox News <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/30/powerful-flame-cyberweapon-tied-to-powerfully-angry-birds/" target="_blank">linking the infamous Flame malware to Angry Birds</a>... because both use the Lua computing language (found via <a href="http://idle.slashdot.org/story/12/06/01/2124204/fox-news-ties-flame-malware-to-angry-birds?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">Slashdot</a>):
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This is, of course, a complete pointless linkage, which seems to serve no purpose whatsoever, other than (perhaps) to attract the attention of those who are obsessed with Angry Birds (an admittedly large group of people).  But just because two programs are written in the same language, it doesn't mean... well, it doesn't mean <i>anything</i> of importance whatsoever.  Instead, it just seems like Fox News and its "Chief Intelligence Correspondent" Catherine Herridge needed to fill some space and came up with something entirely pointless.  But, you know, we need those big professional news companies because of deep, hard-hitting stories like this one.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120604/04382119189/this-is-reporting-fox-news-ties-flame-malware-to-angry-birds-because-both-use-lua.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120604/04382119189/this-is-reporting-fox-news-ties-flame-malware-to-angry-birds-because-both-use-lua.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120604/04382119189/this-is-reporting-fox-news-ties-flame-malware-to-angry-birds-because-both-use-lua.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 03:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Techdirt To Not Charge Readers For Content</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Okay, this one's just for fun, but seeing that Canadian national newspaper the Globe &#038; Mail has <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/globe-to-charge-readers-for-online-content/article2429120/" target="_blank">announced that it's following on the pointless trend</a> of putting metered paywalls up for online publications, and announcing it like it's a big deal, we figured it might be nice to remind people that some (actually, er, most) online publications are still doing just fine publishing for free.  But, if they can get news out of making life worse for their readers and community, why can't we make some news out of the fact that we like to treat our community right, and let them read our stuff for free, and freely share it and talk about it?  I don't see how making life more difficult for readers, limiting them, demanding that they pay and letting them do less in terms of sharing the content will do much to make people more interested in the site.  As for the claims that the Globe &#038; Mail is struggling, as Globe alum Mathew Ingram points out, perhaps they <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/mathewi/statuses/200689550882897921">shouldn't be</a> building new office space...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120510/17455018873/techdirt-to-not-charge-readers-content.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120510/17455018873/techdirt-to-not-charge-readers-content.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120510/17455018873/techdirt-to-not-charge-readers-content.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:28:01 PST</pubDate>
<title>German Government Wants Google To Pay To Show News Snippets</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Some bad ideas just keep on coming back, despite the fact that they are manifestly stupid.  Trying to get Google and others to pay for the privilege of sending more traffic to newspapers by including short snippets from their stories is one of them.  Of course, logic would dictate that the newspapers should be paying Google for the marketing it provides, but unfortunately not everyone sees it that way.  
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Last year, the Belgian courts <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110508/16543114199/belgian-appeals-court-says-google-must-pay-up-linking-to-newspaper-websites.shtml">decided</a> that Google was infringing on newspapers' copyrights just by linking to stories.  Google was ordered to remove those links, at which point the newspapers started <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/04055115139/newspapers-win-suit-against-google-get-their-wish-to-be-delisted-then-complain.shtml">whining</a> about "harsh retaliation" -- even though it was the court's decision, not Google's, and it was the newspapers' legal action that brought this about.
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Sadly, the German government doesn't seem to have been paying attention to that rather ridiculous saga -- or maybe simply doesn't care -- and has just announced that it will bring in a compulsory licensing scheme for the use of even "small parts" of journalistic articles on commercial sites (<a href="http://netzpolitik.org/2012/axel-springer-kauft-leistungsschutzrecht-bei-koalition/">original German</a>).  
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The justification is that this will allow publishers to share in the financial benefit arising from this use, and for authors of the articles to receive an "appropriate" contribution, whatever that means.  To do that, of course, will require the creation of yet more bureaucracy: a new collecting society (let's hope it doesn't turn out like the German music collection agency <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120225/02270617882/sony-music-exec-internet-is-full-opportunities-not-problem-intransigent-collection-societies-however.shtml">GEMA</a>.)  
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What that overlooks, of course, is that Google, clearly the main target here, doesn't make any money from its Google News service, which is ad free.  It would be nice to see Google simply remove all links, as happened in Belgium, and then wait for the German publishers to start complaining about this further example of "harsh retaliation".  Sadly, that's unlikely to happen, since Google tends not to take a particularly aggressive stance on these issues (probably hoping to avoid further <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120224/03464017863/patent-aggressor-microsoft-files-eu-complaint-against-googlemotorola-charging-too-much-to-license-patents.shtml">anti-trust complaints</a>.)
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Of course, the analysis above assumes that the still extremely vague proposal is simply a plan to skim some money off major Internet players like Google and to hand it to the German publishing industry so the latter doesn't need to worry about innovating.  But given that the copyright industries' sense of entitlement knows no bounds, it's even possible that publishers want this scheme to apply to <b>every</b> quotation from their newspapers and magazines -- including those in blogs with any Google Ads, say, and Facebook posts.  Now might be a good time for German Internet users to start raising the alarm, just in case.
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<pubDate>Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:43:33 PST</pubDate>
<title>Young People Followed SOPA News More Than Election News</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For people who still don't recognize that there's a generational shift going on when it comes to how people view attempts to regulate the internet, communications and copyright law, they might want to start paying attention.  According to the folks over at the Pew Research Center, the story of SOPA <a href="http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2012/01/copyright/sopa-is-top-story-for-young-people/" target="_blank">was the most followed story for people under 30</a> -- even more than news about the Presidential election.  That's probably because SOPA/PIPA had much more of a likelihood of impacting their daily lives.  Either way, it's amazing to see politicians and SOPA/PIPA supporters still think that this was just a "vocal minority" complaining about the bill.  Their ridiculously bad miscalculation in introducing ridiculously bad bills has now awakened a very large percentage of young people to these issues, in a way that won't just go away.   Amazingly, it wasn't just people aged 20 to 30 who took an interest.  The research showed that there was interest all the way down to the K-12 set as well.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120202/02405117634/young-people-followed-sopa-news-more-than-election-news.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120202/02405117634/young-people-followed-sopa-news-more-than-election-news.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120202/02405117634/young-people-followed-sopa-news-more-than-election-news.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:48:39 PST</pubDate>
<title>SOPA Gets Taiwanese News Animation Treatment</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Want to know when a bit of news has <i>really</i> hit the mainstream?  It's when the Taiwanese company Next Media Animation does a computer generated animation of the story.  These videos have become <a href="http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/mf_appledaily/all/1" target="_blank">a media sensation</a>.  Guess what they just took on?  Yup, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?&#038;v=jJZaajaGI9U" target="_blank">the battle over SOPA</a>, which they animate by showing Hollywood lobbyists seeking to attack the internet, and showing not only how tech companies teamed up to fight this, but that internet users are pushing back.  Amusingly, they make use of the imagery from the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111120/23335116848/protest-age-youtube-long-term-consequences-focusing-enforcement-to-deal-with-moral-panics.shtml">UC Davis pepper spray incident</a> to show how Hollywood and the government can "knock out" sites under SOPA.
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:10:52 PST</pubDate>
<title>AP Scolds Reporters For Breaking News On Twitter</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Every time the Associated Press does something concerning the internet, it seems to just reinforce how out of touch it is.  The latest is the bizarre and ridiculous decision to <a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/11/16/memo-to-ap-twitter-is-the-newswire-now/" target="_blank">scold AP reporters for daring to tweet out the "news" that they had been arrested</a>.  You see, in the minds of AP bosses, they haven't quite figured out that artificial scarcity isn't a the same thing as real scarcity.  So they think that if a reporter is arrested, the reporter should keep that news hoarded up until the AP itself can release it.  But, as anyone who is a frequent Twitter user knows, that's crazy in a situation like this.  Reporter gets arrested, reporter tweets about it.  That's a perfectly reasonable response.  But the AP wanted the story for "itself."
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The problem is that the AP is apparently dreadful at chess.  It doesn't think beyond the single move ahead.  So, yes, perhaps they don't get the "break" on the news that an AP reporter was arrested -- that goes on Twitter.  But is it really that bad?  Let's just play out the scenario.  Assume the story goes viral on Twitter.  Remember, this is 140 characters, not a full blown article.  If the message goes viral, then tons more people are seeing that short message <i>and are curious about the details -- the details that aren't going to show up on Twitter anyway</i>.  But having that tweet out there, so it can go viral, means building <i>interest</i> in the story, and from that, it seems like any story would end up receiving <i>more traffic</i>, because the Twitter messages "primed the pump."  I honestly can't fathom a scenario in which people see the tweets and decide that it acts as a full replacement for the eventual news article.
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Mathew Ingram makes a key point on all of this.  If a single 140-character tweet is acting as a suitable replacement for your reporting... you've got bigger problems:
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The other thing the Associated Press needs to think about is that if a 140-character post or two by one of your reporters on Twitter is a threat to your news service, then you have a problem that can&rsquo;t be fixed by simply enforcing your social-media policies more stringently. This argument feels very similar to the debates that newspapers used to have when they first put up websites &mdash; about whether to post breaking news to their site, or &ldquo;save&rdquo; it for the paper. This was fundamentally a lose-lose situation, as most newspapers discovered, since saving it often involved others breaking the news first on their websites.
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:36:32 PDT</pubDate>
<title>One Entertainment Business Publication Sues Another For Copyright Infringement For Having The Same Stories</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Nikki Finke, the infamous editor of Deadline.com is apparently <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/09/nikki_finke_is_suing_the_holly.html" target="_blank">suing the Hollywood Reporter for copyright infringement</a>... because it wrote stories on the same news events as Deadline.com.  Seriously.  Here's Finke's quote:
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"PMC (the company that owns Deadline.com) is taking a stand against desperate and copycat news organizations and media outlets such as THR that constantly monitor PMC&rsquo;s websites for the sole purpose of copying and imitating PMC websites&rsquo; news stories and original content within minutes after online publication. These copycat media outlets such as THR, rather than conducting their own independent reporting and investigation, developing their own sources and insiders, and generating their own leads and stories, simply steal PMC&rsquo;s content and pawn it off as their own. In truth, THR, faced with the harsh reality that it had become a second-rate entertainment industry news source unable to attract insiders&rsquo; attention anymore." 
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THR, for its part, claims the whole thing is ridiculous, and many of the stories mentioned were on both sites because Hollywood publicists <i>sent the same info to both sites</i>:
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"An initial review of the complaint shows that it is replete with examples of stories that originated from widely-released press releases from publicists, or widespread confirmations from publicists to numerous outlets, including both The Hollywood Reporter and Deadline.com. It is not copyright infringement to report these stories, even if on occasion Deadline.com posts them first." 
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While I don't always agree with THR's coverage, on this one, I'm on their side.  Reporting on the same story -- <i>even if you find out about it from the other site</i> -- is not copyright infringement.  It's often how news works.  Someone should explain to Finke the idea/expression dichotomy in copyright law, as well as the important tidbit of information that <i>you can't own facts</i>, and others are free to write about the same facts.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110921/03560416038/one-entertainment-business-publication-sues-another-copyright-infringement-having-same-stories.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110921/03560416038/one-entertainment-business-publication-sues-another-copyright-infringement-having-same-stories.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110921/03560416038/one-entertainment-business-publication-sues-another-copyright-infringement-having-same-stories.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:43:46 PST</pubDate>
<title>How Cute: NY Times, WaPo &amp; Gannett Build Their Own Walled Garden Most People Will Ignore</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110126/04012412832/how-cute-ny-times-wapo-gannett-build-their-own-walled-garden-most-people-will-ignore.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ This is just a bit bizarre.  As the NY Times and others keep moving towards a paywall, it and the Washington Post and Gannett have apparently funded a bizarrely pointless operation called OnGo, which appears to be an <a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/01/25/newspapers-scarcity-ongo/" target="_blank">excessively limited, high priced, walled garden aggregator</a>.  For a mere $7 per month, you can get access to content from those three companies along with a few other big newspapers.  Of course, there are limits.  You only get the top 20 stories from the NY Times, for example.
<br><br>
Or, you know, you could just use an RSS reader.  Or Twitter.  Or Facebook.  And not pay the monthly fee.
<br><br>
I'm reading through the various details and stories on this project, and the one question I keep asking which isn't answered <i>anywhere</i> is <i>what is the additional value this brings to the table</i>.  When the very best that the operation's boss man can do to explain his value proposition is to say "this is another option," you're in trouble.  This isn't providing any more value for the (much higher) price.  It seems to be targeted at fools, which is no way to build a business these days.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110126/04012412832/how-cute-ny-times-wapo-gannett-build-their-own-walled-garden-most-people-will-ignore.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110126/04012412832/how-cute-ny-times-wapo-gannett-build-their-own-walled-garden-most-people-will-ignore.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110126/04012412832/how-cute-ny-times-wapo-gannett-build-their-own-walled-garden-most-people-will-ignore.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:02:57 PST</pubDate>
<title>Reddit, Digg, Fark, Slashdot, TechCrunch &amp; Others Sued Over Ridiculous 'Online Press Release' Patent</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last summer, you may recall, we wrote about the ridiculous situation of a company called "Gooseberry Natural Resources LLC," which held a ridiculous broad patent (<a href="http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=EOELAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,370,535" target="_blank">6,370,535</a>) that it claimed covered the basic concept of generating a press release online.  The company had <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100720/00442110286.shtml">sued a bunch</a> of (usually small) online press release services -- some of whom were really struggling to fight the lawsuit.  And, to make matters worse, it was not clear who <i>really</i> owned the patent, as there appeared to be a series of shell companies to hide the actual patent holder.
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Apparently whoever is behind Gooseberry got tired of simply trying to demand cash from mom-and-pop press release services, and has now decided to sue a bunch of online services, <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/12/gooseberry-natural-resources-are-huge-assholes/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: Techcrunch (TechCrunch)&utm_content=Google Reader" target="_blank">Digg, Reddit, Fark, TechCrunch, and others</a>.  What do any of those companies have to do with generating press releases online?  You've got me.  Of course, some of those sites are pretty good at teaming up and doing good deeds.  So, perhaps the Reddit crew might be able to figure out who really holds this patent?
<br><br>
The whole thing looks pretty ridiculous.  For example, this is the section on how it claims Reddit violates the patent:
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Plaintiff is informed and believes that Advance owns, operates, advertises, controls, sells, and otherwise provides hardware, software and websites for "news and press release services" including via the reddit.com website ("the Advance system", available at www.reddit.com).  Upon information and belief, Advance has infringed and continues to infringe one or more claims of the '535 patent by making, using, providing, offering to sell, and selling (directly or through intermediaries), in this district and elsewhere in the United States, systems and methods for entering and providing structured news and press releases.  More particularly, Plaintiff is informed and believes that Advance has and/or require and/or directs users to access and/or interact with a system that receives and stores separately specified portions of a new or press release and that assembles a news or press release in a predetermined format.
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This is basically the same basic language used against all the sites sued.  It's basically a ridiculous attack on lots of well-known tech blogs and news aggregator sites, claiming they somehow infringe on this ridiculous patent.  I find it especially amusing that they've included Slashdot in this attack, seeing as Slashdot's system (which really hasn't changed that much over the years) predates the patent filing by a few years.  Seems like the prior art on this one is likely to be pretty strong.  Of course, fighting a patent infringement lawsuit, no matter how bogus, can be quite expensive.  Hopefully these sites are willing to team up and pool resources.  Thankfully, most of the sites involved are owned by much larger companies who can (and hopefully will) fight this.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110113/03334712652/reddit-digg-fark-slashdot-techcrunch-others-sued-over-ridiculous-online-press-release-patent.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110113/03334712652/reddit-digg-fark-slashdot-techcrunch-others-sued-over-ridiculous-online-press-release-patent.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110113/03334712652/reddit-digg-fark-slashdot-techcrunch-others-sued-over-ridiculous-online-press-release-patent.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>AP Wants To Become The ASCAP Of News</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember the Associated Press's bizarre and unworkable idea to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090723/1858235640.shtml">DRM the news</a>.  Well, reader <a href="http://imagisterium.tumblr.com">crcb</a> alerts us to the news that the AP is now filling in more details, about how it effectively <a href="http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/oct/19/digital-overhaul-hatched/" target="_blank">wants to become the ASCAP of news</a>.  Yeah, you read that right.  Talk about bad ideas.  I'm sure being like ASCAP is appealing from the AP's side, but it makes no sense at all from the publisher side -- especially given the details where the AP gets to keep a 20% cut of any revenue collected this way.  As you read through the details, it's as if the folks behind it at the AP don't quite understand the very basic economics of content and the internet:
<blockquote><i>
Curley indicated that the clearinghouse's biggest moneymaking opportunity is likely to be the licensing of copyright-protected content to mobile phones and an array of computer tablets such as Apple Inc.'s iPad and emerging competitors.
</i></blockquote>
Huh?  You license content to website or apps, not to platforms... This seems to have absolute disaster written all over it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101020/11561911506/ap-wants-to-become-the-ascap-of-news.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:46:03 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The Legality Of News Aggregators</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's been this a lot of talk about "aggregators" recently -- often in the context of traditional newspapers claiming that such aggregators are somehow <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090730/0423325715.shtml">damaging their business</a>.  As we've discussed in the past, if you look at the details, there's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090802/2016085743.shtml">little evidence</a> that aggregators are really the issue.  Instead, many of the complaints appear to be confusing a correlation of their own business declines with the rise of aggregators, and falsely believing there's a causal relationship when there's little, if any, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100309/1552478485.shtml">evidence</a> to support that.
<br /><br />
However, that's not going to stop ongoing legal actions from those publishers against the aggregators they believe are a problem.  One reason for this is that the specific legal situation at times can be a bit vague, as internet aggregators are quite different than past businesses.  If you're interested in this subject, you should absolutely read <a href="
http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/09/whats-the-law-around-aggregating-news-online-a-harvard-law-report-on-the-risks-and-the-best-practices/" target="_blank">Kimberly Isbell's very thorough look at the legal issues</a> related to online aggregators.  She very carefully breaks out the different types of aggregators (though, I'm a bit surprised that people seriously consider commentary blogs to be "aggregators") as well as the specific legal issues facing each of the different aggregators.  The problem, which becomes clear, is that the law is not anywhere close to settled on the key issues, and leave an awful lot of key questions up to the interpretation of whatever judge gets the cases in question.  We've discussed in the past the idea that it's often possible to take the "fair use" factors and interpret them in either direction (something is or is not fair use), and the same may be true with "hot news" in some cases as well.  That's a problem, and makes both concepts somewhat useless and dangerous as well.  If you have a law where the boundaries are incredibly vague, unclear, and up to the whims of a randomly selected judge, it leads to potentially damaging situations, where people avoid liability by not even trying to do certain things for fear of getting sued.
<br /><br />
The concept of hot news is now being tested in a few different courts, so we can be hopeful that within a few years, perhaps, the courts will dump the concept entirely as a violation of the First Amendment (an analysis that hasn't been done yet), but with that question still up in the air, there's still a chance that a confused court could rule otherwise, creating a massively damaging situation for value added content services online.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100912/21462110970.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100912/21462110970.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100912/21462110970.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:14:07 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Appeals Court Overturns Judge's Ban On LA Times Printing Photo Of Murder Suspect</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:10:20 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Could The Legality Of Google's Cache Kill Righthaven's Copyright Claims?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/01552110678.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ As Righthaven continues to file lawsuits, it seems that various lawyers who are concerned about copyright, free speech and chilling effects online have been rushing to help defend some of those sued.  I can't recall a situation (even with <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100330/1132478790.shtml">US Copyright Group</a>) where lawyers have been so eager to take on a company filing copyright infringement claims.  Of course, the really interesting part is how some of the lawyers are <a href="http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/aug/18/website-operators-use-new-defenses-fight-r-j-copyr/" target="_blank">testing out a variety of defenses to the lawsuits</a>, some which seem to have a much better chance of passing judicial muster than others.
<br /><br />
For example, some are claiming that Righthaven has no standing to sue, since it waits until after it's found the infringement to "buy" the copyright to the article in question from Stephens Media/Las Vegas Review-Journal.  Others have argued that the lack of any actual damages should get the lawsuits dismissed.  Still others have challenged the jurisdiction.
<br /><br />
One interesting argument, based on an earlier ruling on the legality of Google's cache, makes the reposting of these articles "fair use."  Unfortunately, the fact pattern in that case does appear to be a bit different.  It not only involved a guy suing over the Google cache, but that guy also first requested that Google scan his pages, then made the request to visit the cache himself.  Still, in that case, Google argued that without a robots.txt blocking them from caching the article, the guy had given implicit permission:
<blockquote><i>
"Even if Google could be viewed as having made or distributed these copies of Field's works, Field impliedly granted Google permission to do so. Field displayed his site on the Internet without including any label, including those that are industry standard, to instruct Google not to present 'cached' links to the pages containing his works," Google attorneys argued.
</i></blockquote>
And, in that case, the judge agreed.  So, with Righthaven, these lawyers are claiming the same basic thing.  They're saying that the LVRJ gave an implicit license for a similar cache-with-link by putting the content up for free and by failing to limit the ability to copy &#038; paste the text via technical means.  On top of that, they point out that the LVRJ <i>explicitly</i> encourages people to "share" the articles on its site (something the LVRJ still does -- including quick links to share it with 19 different services).
<br /><br />
This does raise some tricky issues.  If Google's cache is, in fact, legal and not infringement, then how is just reposting a story with a link back infringing?  But, if reposting a story is found to be fair use, you're about to hear a collective gasp of horror from some online content producers who don't want people copying their stuff.  Because of that general conflict, I'm beginning to wonder if some of the Righthaven lawsuits are about to become a lot more important than we initially expected -- and whether or not Google might have a <i>very strong interest</i> in supporting some of the cases against Righthaven.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/01552110678.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/01552110678.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/01552110678.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:19:08 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Journalism Professor Adds Wiki Sensibility To Crowdsourced Fact Checking: WikiFactCheck</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100817/03002810652.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've talked about the public's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100520/0153549505.shtml">desire</a> for more real fact checking, as opposed to he-said/she-said style news reporting.  And we've mentioned various programs that have brought <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100803/03501710471.shtml">crowdsourcing</a> into the fact-checking game.  And, now a USC journalism professor has put this all together <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/08/truth-o-meter-2g-andrew-lih-wants-to-wikify-fact-checking/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A NiemanJournalismLab %28Nieman Journalism Lab%29" target="_blank">to create a fact-checking wiki-based site</a>, appropriately called <a href="http://www.wikifactcheck.org/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">WikiFactCheck</a>.
<br /><br />
Digging down to facts tends to be what crowdsourcing is good at.  The problem, of course, is that there often are some blurry lines around what is actually a "fact" and what is not.  But, given the (some would say excessive) cultural focus at Wikipedia on forcing a "neutral point of view," I could see how a similar group of people could somewhat vehemently focus in on specific facts that can be proven true or false, rather than getting too bogged down in opinion vs. facts debates.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100817/03002810652.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100817/03002810652.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100817/03002810652.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:32:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Detroit News Anchor Realizes How Twitter Has Changed How He Engages With Viewers</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100728/01182610392.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ One of the key points we tried to hammer home at our Techdirt Saves* Journalism event in June was the importance of realizing that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100621/0327579886.shtml">news organizations are really in the business of building <i>community</i></a>.  So many in the news business focus on the belief that they're in the "news" business, but that's never really been the case.  The news has always been the piece that brings together a community (and the business of a news organization has usually been to then sell that community's attention to advertisers).  The biggest problem that news organizations face these days isn't scary <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100407/0245048908.shtml">"news aggregators,"</a> but that there are now many, many, many other <i>communities</i> that people can join, and most of them treat their members a lot better.  Many traditional news organizations, in contrast, seem to have a rather condescending view on "community."  They lock up comments, they complain about readers, and they focus on just delivering the news, not engaging with their community or enabling their community to do anything useful.
<br /><br />
Thankfully, that's not true of all news organizations (or individuals within news organizations).  More and more are recognizing this important point, even if they do so in unexpected ways.  <a href="http://www.twitter.com/krharrison">krharrison</a> points us to a great block post from Stephen Clark, a newscaster for a local Detroit TV station, about his <a href="http://sclarkwxyz.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/a-silverfish-hand-catch-lands-in-the-backchannel/" target="_blank">realization of how Twitter is changing the way he relates to the community of folks who watch the news</a>:
<blockquote><i>
As I've reported in this blog before I have had a very long one-sided relationship with the people who watch my newscasts. I talk, they listen. If they had something to say to me they yelled it at the TV screen like Don Quixote tilting at windmills. Twitter changed all  that. I can now hear you and I can now answer you...
<br /><br />
I can't speak for the dozens of people who check in regularly every night... sometimes at 6 or 7:00.. but mostly 11:00. I don't know exactly what <b>they</b> get out of it except a kind of cool experience of actually conversing in real time with the guy on TV. But I can tell you what <b>I</b> get out of it. For the first time in years I actually feel like I'm talking <b>to</b> someone rather than <b>at</b> them. Frankly it's energizing!
</i></blockquote>
Of course, the next step is to go beyond just talking "to" them and to talking "with" them.  But that will come.  In fact, getting to that point, Clark explains an amusing way that the community tried to connect with him, picking up on the recent <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100714/02461010208.shtml">Old Spice commercial</a> meme of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFDqvKtPgZo" target="_blank">"Silverfish Hand Catch!"</a>, where some of his viewers started saying that if 100 people retweeted the request, Clark would close the broadcast by saying the line on TV.  He didn't get the 100 retweets, and admits that he wouldn't have said it anyways (noting he probably would have lost his job), but he did <a href="http://www.twitvid.com/ATMLN" target="_blank">do an "air" silverfish hand catch</a> surreptitiously, to let folks know he was paying attention.
<br /><br />
But, much more interesting was the realization he had while all of this was happening:
<blockquote><i>
It was all a bit silly sure, but I realized something else was going on. The audience of our 11:00 newscast wasn't just talking to me... they were talking to each other! I felt like Alexander Graham Bell when he made his first call to Watson. The backchannel worked!
</i></blockquote>
I know that many folks around here still like to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100613/1601209793.shtml">mock and dismiss</a> communications tools like Twitter, but many people are realizing what powerful tools they are for conversations and for building communities where none really existed before.  And, in businesses where community and relationships are everything, that's quite powerful for those who figure it out.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100728/01182610392.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100728/01182610392.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100728/01182610392.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:42:58 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Do We Really Want An ASCAP For News?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've spent a long time detailing the massive problems that come up when you build up an unnecessary collection society bureaucracy for something like music.  Operations like ASCAP lead to massive inefficiencies in the market, greater protectionism and a never-ending quest for more control over perfectly reasonable free uses.  And, worst of all, they tend to distort markets in such ways that it <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20100611/0351569781.shtml">harms up-and-coming creators</a> by pricing the venues they rely on to establish themselves right out of the market.  So, I have to admit that I'm somewhat horrified to hear that some are now seriously <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-ascap-example-how-news-organizations-could-liberate-content-skip-negotiations-and-still-get-paid/" target="_blank">proposing an ASCAP-like offering for the non-problem of online news</a>.
<br /><br />
There are so many problems with this suggestion it's difficult to know where to start.  The biggest of all, however, is that the "problem" this is seeking to solve hasn't been shown to have been a problem at all.  Newspapers and the AP keep claiming that there's an "aggregator problem," but we went looking for it and <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090730/0423325715.shtml">we can't find it</a>.  The problem is that the AP and others change the definition of who's a problem depending on what they're talking about.  Sometimes its sites like Google.  But Google isn't really a problem because Google shows headlines and barely a snippet.  That's clearly fair use and drives traffic (hell, the entire SEO industry depends on that).  So, it's not Google that's the problem.  At the other end of the spectrum you have scraper spam sites, but those are fly-by-night, get <i>no</i> traffic and aren't "taking" any real ad revenue away from the original content creators at all.  Also, they're certainly not going to pay into any ASCAP-like scheme.  Who's left?  In the middle you have a few smaller players, like Newser, who basically rewrite some stories, but they're tiny.
<br /><br />
So what problem is this bureaucratic mess trying to actually solve?  I can't figure it out, but putting together a giant bureaucracy will require a ton of overhead, and all that money is pure waste from an economic standpoint.  So, before we start talking about an ASCAP for news, can someone please define what the actual problem is?  Because it's certainly not this general "aggregator" menace that we keep hearing about.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100707/01071110095.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100707/01071110095.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100707/01071110095.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 4 Jun 2010 07:56:41 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Are Yahoo &amp; The AP Manipulating Comments? Or Are They Just Really Bad At The Internet? [Updated]</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Someone who prefers to remain anonymous sent over this story about how Associated Press stories hosted on Yahoo News appear to <a href="http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/06/yahoo-and-ap-caught-manipulating-user-comments/" target="_blank">have tons of comments from old stories</a>.  It's not entirely clear what's happening, though I have my suspicions (explained further down), but it appears that when new stories are showing up on certain topics, Yahoo is simply copying over older comments from previous stories on similar or related topics.  The comments <i>look</i> as if they're about the story posted -- and the only way you can tell they're not is if you notice the date:
<blockquote><i>
I'd go from one Yahoo article to another and notice that regardless of the subject matter, the first user comment was always the same -- at least on AP articles covering the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. The comment that kept reappearing was posted by "Robert" and it was a one liner. "Hamas is now in control of the Gaza Strip after winning an election there against Abbas Palestinian Authority." That was it. Fair enough -- I've got no quarrel with the messenger or the message. But somehow that one comment generated an incredible 184 responses and, last I checked, readers had given it 3212 thumbs up and 2525 thumbs down.
<br><br>
I got a little curious about why Robert's one liner had generated so much controversy. I've written hundreds of articles and never got anywhere near that kind of attention. Frankly, I was full of envy. How did 'Robert' pull this off with one miserly line? Then I noticed the strangest thing: it was dated March 09, 2010. <b>The comment was two months old and was the lead comment of 40,000 responses. That seemed a little high considering the fact that the AP article I was reading had only been posted for thirty minutes.</b>
<br><br>
What were Yahoo and AP up to? The answer is simple; they were porting comments from one article to another and, in this particular case, they've been doing it for two months.
</i></blockquote>
Oddly (and inexplicably) the author of that post, Ahmed Amr, does not link to Yahoo to show this, but it's not hard to find.  Here's a <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_israel_palestinians" target="_blank">story published on June 3rd, 2010 at 9:19pm</a>.  Yet, there's that same first comment, from March 9th, at 12:47am.  And here's a <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians" target="_blank">story published on May 6th at 1:09 pm</a> with the identical comments, also beginning with the March 9th comment.  To let you see what they both look like before they change (and I'll explain in a second why I think they'll change) I've turned both of those pages into PDFs, which you can see below (you may have to either download or view at full screen and scroll to see the "comments" at the bottom):
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I've also looked around and found really similar things on other stories.  While Amr is suggesting there's something nefarious going on with the AP "manipulating" comments (and he specifically calls out the reporters from the AP who he believes are a part of this), I'm going to guess that this is more typical (embarrassing) incompetence on the part of Yahoo, rather than malice.
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Take a look at the two links I put above to the Yahoo stories.  The URLs (as found by a quick search for the comment string Amr mentioned in his post) are as follows:
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<li>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_israel_palestinian
<li>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians
</ul>
Notice something similar?  The last bit of the URL string is identical "/ml_israel_palestinian".  The only difference is that the second URL, the story from May 6th, inserts two additional directories, with the top one being the date of publication.  We already know that, due to a total disregard for the basic principles of the way the internet can and does work, that the AP limits its partners from hosting AP articles for very long.  I believe on most sites you can host the articles for a month and then you need to take them down completely.  With <i>most</i> sites, what happens is you get a 404 error or page not found (to this day, I can't figure out why they don't at least point you to a place where you <i>can</i> find the missing article).  However, it appears that Yahoo decides to recycle the URLs in an attempt to make the URLs simple and understandable.  So, any basic story about the Israeli Palestinian conflict might appear under that first URL.  For all I know, by the time you're reading this, it's an entirely different story than the one that was published on June 3rd.
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After the date of publication, breaking the basic principle of a link to a news story being a link to that news story alone, Yahoo <i>moves</i> the story to a new date-defined directory, and the original URL is freed up for the next story on that particular topic.  If this seems stupid and confusing to users and destructive to the very idea of the "link economy" or valuing earned or passed links, you're right.  But take that up with Yahoo and the Associated Press.
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Of course, here's where the real level of tech incompetence comes in: It appears that Yahoo News' comment system <i>doesn't understand that Yahoo does this</i>.  So, it associates the comments to that last bit of the URL string "/ml_israel_palestinian" and the same comments will appear every time that string is used as the final part of a URL string.  It's bizarre that Yahoo would do this, but apparently, that's how Yahoo rolls.
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Amr suggests that this is part of a planned bit of "corporate fraud" by Yahoo and the AP, perhaps to make it look like certain stories are getting a hell of a lot more comments than they are.  He also suggests other conspiracy theories involving pro-Israeli operatives, saying that as far as he can tell, this only happens on AP stories concerning the Israeli/Palestinian crisis.  I believe Amr didn't try very hard to find alternatives.  On my very first attempt to find an example related to something entirely different, I found the identical behavior.  I just picked a popular story that likely would have multiple stories over multiple days: the BP oil spill in the Gulf.  Then I looked for an AP story hosted by Yahoo News... Bingo.
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The <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100603/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_947" target="_blank">first news story I found</a> was published on June 3rd at 2:28 pm</a>, but the first comment on the story?  Why it's from May 1st at 2:06am.  And the URL?  The string ends with "us_gulf_oil_spill_947."  You can find the identical comments on <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100521/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill" target="_blank">this story</a> which was published May 21st, but ends with the string "us_gulf_oil_spill" suggesting that Yahoo's comment system also <i>ignores</i> numbers at the end of that final URL part in replicating its comments.
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And <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100604/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_washington_9" target="_blank">here's another story</a> about the White House's response to the oil spill.  Published June 3rd at 11:57 pm.  First comment?  May 10, 2010 12:58 pm.  URL string?  "us_gulf_oil_spill_washington_9".  And <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100517/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_washington_1" target="_blank">here's a story from May 17th</a> with the identical comments at the end, with the closing URL string "us_gulf_oil_spill_washington_1."  Yup, Yahoo seems to just match up comments with pretty simple URL hashes.
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  You can see all of that below as embedded PDFs:
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So while it's easy and tempting to ascribe this to "manipulation" and suggest malice on the part of the AP or Yahoo or whoever else (Israeli operatives? Seriously?), it seems pretty clear that this is more due to technical incompetence on Yahoo's part, somewhat driven by the AP's ridiculous "delete this story after x days" licensing policies.
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<b>Update</b>: The AP got in touch to make it entirely clear that this is entirely Yahoo's incompetence and not its own:
<blockquote><i>
The Associated Press distributes news content to Yahoo! News, but the display of AP stories and the curating of comments are entirely up to Yahoo!
</i></blockquote>
While undoubtedly true, in the comments we've heard from multiple people who work at news sites that license AP content, and they note that AP has a weird feed process, whereby it gives a simple slug like the ones used above, so that it can force update stories, often leading people to see stories totally change over the course of the day.  This is clearly a Yahoo issue, but AP's policies don't help.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100603/1653109680.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100603/1653109680.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100603/1653109680.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:48:13 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Turns Out People Really Like It When The Press Fact Checks, Rather Than Just Reporting What Everyone Said</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This really shouldn't surprise anyone, but hopefully this means that more folks in the press will realize a simple point: their job isn't just to report on what both sides said, but to say directly when someone is lying or being misleading.  The AP, which has had some issues in this department in the past, has started aggressively fact checking politicians and now claims that those fact check pieces <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/05/who_woulda_thunk_it_fact-check.html" target="_blank">are the most popular pieces they do</a>.  They're the most clicked and the most linked to stories.  This is good news.  One of the major frustrations with the press is how they seem to just reprint press releases and talking points, rather than challenging questionable claims.  If they start to realize that people really do look to the press to tell them who's being truthful, perhaps some of these publications wouldn't be struggling quite so much.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100520/0153549505.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100520/0153549505.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100520/0153549505.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 14:51:33 PDT</pubDate>
<title>People Start Noticing That The Web Competes With iPad Apps</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Back in February, when many in the media were insisting that iPad apps were going to save the media business, we wondered why all the stuff they were talking about sticking in their apps <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100217/0335558196.shtml">couldn't work on the web as well</a>.  It appears that others are noticing that as well.  Jason Fry at the Nieman Journalism Lab is noting that <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/05/why-the-biggest-competitor-to-ipad-news-apps-may-be-a-familiar-face/" target="_blank">publications' own websites may be the biggest competition to their iPad apps</a> -- and he was apparently a big believer in the concept of iPad apps originally.  But after using the iPad for a while, he's realizing that the web is pretty good again:
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After about a week of using the iPad, I started deleting apps, because the websites themselves were perfectly adequate. This is the reverse experience of the iPhone. <b>On the iPhone, the browser was used only in emergencies, and apps ruled. On the iPad, at least for now, the opposite is true -- the browser is superb, and renders many apps superfluous.</b>
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That complicates things for news organizations. Many have already put too much faith in the idea that being able to charge for apps will reinvigorate their financial prospects. <b>Now, they have to confront the reality that their apps may compete with their own websites -- and right now the apps don't win that competition.</b>
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Of course, I can see some in the media getting the wrong idea out of this, and using it as an excuse to put "exclusive" content only in the app... but, that will just leave them open to competition from publications who add more value to their website.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100513/1513039419.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100513/1513039419.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100513/1513039419.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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