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<pubDate>Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:11:38 PST</pubDate>
<title>How Neutral Can Kazakh-Language Wikipedians Be?</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Although there has been some <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20080415/013346850">sniping</a> about the quality of Wikipedia's entries from time to time, we generally take it for granted that when key articles are missing they will get written, and that if they are unbalanced, they will gradually get better -- all thanks to the open, collaborative editing process that sorts out such problems.  But an interesting post on registan.net notes that <a href="http://registan.net/2012/12/27/on-kazakh-language-wikipedia-crowdsourcing-meets-crowd-mentality/">these dynamics may not apply to some versions of Wikipedia -- for example, the one written in the Kazakh language</a>:

<i><blockquote>I also find the idea that thousands of diligent volunteer Kazakh Wikipedians are hard at work writing up an unbiased encyclopedia of the world and of their country [hard to believe]. The incentives for it are all wrong. The rewards for glowing diatribes on [Kazakhstan's President] Nazarbayev's Kazakhstan <a href="http://www.leila-khrapunova.com/en/news-en/respkz-8/">are clear</a>, but the risks involved in challenging that narrative <a href="http://www.eurasianet.org/node/66340">are equally so</a>.</blockquote></i>

It's an important point.  Wikipedia may request a "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view">neutral point of view</a>" from all its contributors, but when the consequences of telling the unvarnished truth are rather less pleasant than embellishing the facts a little, we can hardly blame people in countries like Kazakhstan for straying from the Wikipedian ideal.
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Follow me @glynmoody on <a href="http://twitter.com/glynmoody">Twitter</a> or <a href="http://identi.ca/glynmoody">identi.ca</a>, and on <a href="https://plus.google.com/100647702320088380533">Google+</a></p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121231/10111721529/how-neutral-can-kazakh-language-wikipedians-be.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121231/10111721529/how-neutral-can-kazakh-language-wikipedians-be.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121231/10111721529/how-neutral-can-kazakh-language-wikipedians-be.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:17:52 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is It Legal For Mobile Operators To Ban Text Messages They Don't Like?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ How would people feel if they found out that their ISP wouldn't let them send emails about a subject they didn't like?  I'm sure most people would cry foul.  Yet, what about with SMS text messaging?  Apparently T-Mobile blocked a company, EZ Texting, from sending text messages for a client that <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/blocking-text-messages/" target="_blank">were about legal medical marijuan dispensaries in California</a>, and now there's a legal dispute over the issue.  Of course, this isn't quite as cut and dried as either side would like it to be.  Unlike email, the SMS system really isn't using the public internet, but the private networks of carriers, who have worked out deals with each other to exchange SMS messages across network barriers.  So you can make an argument that they can do whatever they want.  Of course, they're also using spectrum from the government, which comes with certain restrictions about how it can be used.  Either way, perhaps the bigger question is <i>why</i> T-Mobile should even want to block some messages that people want?  All it's going to do is drive away customers...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20100919/01010411067/is-it-legal-for-mobile-operators-to-ban-text-messages-they-don-t-like.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20100919/01010411067/is-it-legal-for-mobile-operators-to-ban-text-messages-they-don-t-like.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20100919/01010411067/is-it-legal-for-mobile-operators-to-ban-text-messages-they-don-t-like.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:26:15 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Industry Groups Back To 'Negotiating' Net Neutrality</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100818/16451110675.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Following Google and Verizon's announced <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100809/12505010560.shtml">framework</a> for net neutrality (a framework that has no real meaning), the FCC announced that it was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100805/16170510516.shtml">no longer</a> holding closed door meetings with industry lobbyists, as they were not fostering the "robust framework to preserve the openness and freedom of the internet."  No matter for those lobbyists.  They'll just <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/114903-wsj-stakeholder-net-neutrality-talks-resume" target="_blank">gather elsewhere, without the FCC</a> and continue to hash out plans.
<br /><br />
I'm reminded of Adam Smith's famous quote:
<blockquote><i>
"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices."
</i></blockquote>
But, really, I'm trying to figure out what the purpose of these meetings really could be.  After all, these companies coming to some form of an agreement doesn't mean a damn thing if the FCC decides to push forward with its own plans.  So, the idea must be that some sort of voluntary industry agreement could mean that the FCC won't make certain rules official, but again that seems backwards.  The industry shouldn't be colluding to set up rules -- especially without anyone representing <i>consumers' interests</i> (remember them?).  Rather than all these industry lobbyists hashing out some sort of agreement that might not mean anything, shouldn't we just focus on making sure there's enough competition in the market that keeps the most egregious possible actions unthinkable by these companies?  Is that so much to ask for?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100818/16451110675.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100818/16451110675.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100818/16451110675.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:30:58 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Journalism Neutrality Now! Why The Government Needs To Oversee The NY Times' Editorial Neutrality</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've tried <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1849299842.shtml">debunking</a> the ridiculous concept of "search neutrality" a few times now.  It's an invention by a few telcos who were upset that Google was supporting net neutrality rules (something I don't support).  So they came up with this concept of "search neutrality" to get back at Google.  But, of course, the situations are entirely different.  The reason why people believe in net neutrality is because your ISP controls what you can do online.  You don't have a choice.  When it comes to search, not only do you have the ability to make an instant choice, but the <i>whole point</i> of a search engine is to "rank" results based on what it thinks is best.  You can't be "neutral" because a "neutral" search is just a unranked list of links that may or may not have anything to do with what you're searching for.
<br /><br />
But, it appears the editorial folks over at the NY Times have gotten confused by all of this, and are saying that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/15/opinion/15thu3.html?_r=1" target="_blank">the government should step in and ensure that Google's algorithm is "fair"</a>:
<blockquote><i>
Still, the potential impact of Google's algorithm on the Internet economy is such that it is worth exploring ways to ensure that the editorial policy guiding Google's tweaks is solely intended to improve the quality of the results and not to help Google's other businesses.
<br /><br />
Some early suggestions for how to accomplish this include having Google explain with some specified level of detail the editorial policy that guides its tweaks. Another would be to give some government commission the power to look at those tweaks. 
</i></blockquote>
It's difficult to think of anything more ridiculous than a news publication calling for the government to step in and review the editorial guidelines of another company.  So, just as the the telcos did with Google, why not flip this around, and make the same point about the NY Times.  Here's my attempt:
<blockquote><i>
The potential impact of the NY Times' coverage on the world/economy/war/etc. is such that it is worth exploring ways to ensure that the editorial policy guiding the NY Times' coverage choices is solely intended to improve the quality of the world, and not to help the NY Times' or other businesses.
<br /><br />
Some early suggestions for how to accomplish this include having the NY Times explain with some specified level of detail the editorial policy that guides its front page choices.  Another would be to give some government commission the power to look at those guidelines.
</i></blockquote>
How would the NY Times (or pretty much any journalist) react to that?  My guess is not too kindly.
<br /><br />
Danny Sullivan, it appears, had a similar idea and <a href="http://searchengineland.com/regulating-the-new-york-times-46521" target="_blank">rewrote the entire NY Times article</a> as if it were talking about the NY Times (rather than just the two paragraphs I did here).  He then goes into detail on why the whole thing is bunk.
<blockquote><i>
Search engines are very similar to newspapers. They have unpaid "organic" listings, where usually (though not always), a computer algorithm decides which pages should rank tops. The exact method isn't important. What's important is that those unpaid listed are the search engines' editorial content, content it has solely decided should appear based on its editorial judgment.
<br /><br />
Search engine also have paid listings, advertisements, which aren't supposed to influence what happens on the editorial side of the house. We even have FTC guidelines ensuring proper labeling of ads and intended to protect against "advertorials" in search results.
<br /><br />
It's a church-and-state divide with good search engines, just as it is with good newspapers.
<br /><br />
What the New York Times has suggested is that the government should oversee the editorial judgment of a search engine. Suffice to say, the editorial staff of the New York Times would scream bloody murder if anyone suggested government oversight of its own editorial process. First it would yell that it has no bias, so oversight is unnecessary. Next it would yell even more loudly that the First Amendment of the US Constitution protects it from such US government interference.
</i></blockquote>
He also points out why Google is significantly <i>more transparent</i> than the NY Times about its own editorial policy:
<blockquote><i>
Still, shouldn't Google share more about how it creates its algorithm? Compared to the New York Times, Google's a model of transparency. Consider:
<ul>
<li>Google will list EVERY site that applies for "coverage" unlike the New York Times, which regularly ignores potential stories</li>
<li>If Google blocks a site for violating its guidelines, <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-to-increase-abuse-alerts-to-webmasters-37091">it alerts</a> many of them. The New York Times alerts no one</li>
<li>Google provides an entire <a href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/">Google Webmaster Central</a> area with tools and tips to encourage people to show up better in Google; the New York Times offers nothing even remotely similar</li>
<li>Google constantly speaks at search marketing and other events to answer questions about how they list sites and how to improve coverage; I'm pretty sure the New York Times devotes far less effort in this area</li>

<li>Google is constantly giving interviews about its algorithm, such as <a href="http://searchengineland.com/wired-on-googles-algorithm-36738">this one in February</a>, along with providing regular videos about its process (here's one <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-makes-one-change-per-day-to-search-algorithm-40508">from April</a>) or blogging about important changes, such as when <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-now-counts-site-speed-as-ranking-factor-39708">site speed was introduced</a> as a factor earlier this year.</li>
</ul>
</i></blockquote>
There's a lot more in Sullivan's piece that basically debunks pretty much every myth that people (beyond just the NY Times) are making out to be an issue about Google's "neutrality" in search.  Hopefully this silly concept goes away, but I fear there are too many lobbying dollars invested in it, that folks like Sullivan are going to have plenty of opportunities to re-debunk this concept in the future.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100716/01484810239.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100716/01484810239.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100716/01484810239.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:40:56 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is Google Required To Carry Anyone's Advertising? French Regulators Seem To Think So</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/11050810023.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've seen a series of similar claims from companies related to the entirely <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100621/0355239887.shtml">bogus concept of "search neutrality,"</a> which seems to suggest that search engines have some sort of moral requirement to include links or ads from certain companies <i>even if</i> the search engines don't believe those links or ads add any value to its users.  And, now, it appears, French regulators are agreeing with that nonsensical result.  Apparently, a French GPS company named Navx complained to the government that Google had stopped including its ads, and French regulators <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65T1ZS20100630?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A reuters%2FtechnologyNews %28News %2F US %2F Technology%29" target="_blank">have sided with Navx over Google</a>.
<br><br>
The regulators seem to think that Google is somehow required to help Navx's business:
<blockquote><i>
"Google's practices have suddenly and significantly affected Navx's income, but also and essentially its growth potential," it said as it granted Navx's request for interim measures.
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Well, gee, Google doesn't display Techdirt as the top result for stuff we write about.  That seems to significantly affect our income as well as our growth potential.  But you don't see us running to the government to force Google to do so.
<br><br>
The key part of the complaint appears to be that Google's algorithm and policies are not publicly available, but again it's not clear why it needs to be.  I actually do agree that Google's policies probably <i>should</i> be a lot more open and transparent, but that doesn't mean the government should force them to be.  Instead, if anything, this actually seems like a potential opening for a competitor to come in and hit Google.  I've always felt that certain aspects of Google's closed nature are an achilles heel for the company that no one has yet exploited.
<br><br>
Just because Google made a business decision to keep that information closed, and one company relied too much on Google for its business model, doesn't mean that a government should step in and force Google to change how it does business.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/11050810023.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/11050810023.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100630/11050810023.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 05:50:52 PDT</pubDate>
<title>There Is No Such Thing As Search Neutrality, Because The Whole Point Of Search Is To Recommend What's Best</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1849299842.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It seems that various anti-Google organizations have picked up on this bizarre and misguided notion of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100504/1324279300.shtml">"search neutrality"</a> as a key stick with which to attack.  The idea is, obviously, a play on the concept of "net neutrality."  It's been pushed mainly by AT&#038;T and various anti-Google think tankers, but now it appears that Microsoft is getting into the game, <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/103371-report-microsoft-worried-about-search-neutrality" target="_blank">suggesting that "search neutrality" is a problem</a> and pointing a finger directly at Google.
<br /><br />
This is ridiculous on so many levels that it's difficult to know where to begin.  First, "search neutrality" is not a problem because "search neutrality" makes no sense.  The <i>whole point</i> of search is to be biased.  The whole point of search is to <i>recommend</i> which sites fit your query best.  "Search neutrality" isn't search at all.  It's a list of unsorted and totally useless links.
<br /><br />
Second, Microsoft should know better than to complain about Google's actions and suggest they're in some way anti-competitive.  Remember that, even if the actual penalties (penalties? what penalties?) made the ruling meaningless, Microsoft was a convicted monopolist.  Having big competitors point fingers at each other screaming about "anti-competitive" behavior is just silly.
<br /><br />
Finally, Microsoft's Brad Smith apparently is claiming that "the biggest lack of competition" is in the search space.  Really?  Well, let's compare, shall we?  According to some recent research, Google has <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/search-engine-market-share.aspx?qprid=4" target="_blank">85% of the market</a> in search.  That is a lot, granted.  But... what about the operating system?  Oh, look.  The same research firm shows that Microsoft has <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8" target="_blank">91% of the market</a>.  What's next?  Operating system neutrality?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1849299842.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1849299842.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/1849299842.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:36:27 PST</pubDate>
<title>Why Is The NY Times Running A Ridiculous, Conflicted Op-Ed Against Google?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Paul Kedrosky points us to an <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/28/opinion/28raff.html?partner=rss&#038;emc=rss" target="_blank">absolutely ridiculous</a> op-ed in the NY Times from a guy who runs a price comparison search engine that <a href="http://econsultancy.com/blog/4456-foundem-vs-google-a-case-study-in-seo-fail" target="_blank">offered little of value</a> and <i>reasonably</i> was punished by Google for it.  But the guy tries to make a federal case out of his own poor ranking, suggesting that the government needs to regulate Google because the company was so bold as to recognize that people weren't searching for his lame price-comparison site and probably would find others more appropriate.  Kedrosky <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2009/12/nyt_runs_quack.html?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+InfectiousGreed+(Paul+Kedrosky%27s+Infectious+Greed)" target="_blank">picks apart the piece brilliantly</a>:
<blockquote><i>
Gosh, what a shocker. Someone in search with no web traffic.... wants someone in search with a lot of web traffic, Google, to send his company buckets of visitors. Amazing.
<br /><br />
The OpEd goes downhill from there. We get a litany of silly complaints, like the idea that Google doesn't innovate, that it just buys stuff from others, and that Google's Maps and other products have hurt other companies. Yeesh. I'll say this really slowly: Consumers want products that work together, simplify our lives, and solve problems. For this nitwit to want to throw us back to a world where we need point products -- maps here, directions there, product search there, email over there, etc. -- as some sort of full-employment act for me-too companies that can't get web traffic on their own merits is batshit nuts. 
</i></blockquote>
Furthermore, the guy's claim in the article that Google went out of its way to make his company "disappear" simply isn't supported by the evidence at all.  Again, Kedrosky rips this argument to shreds:
<blockquote><i>
Really? Google went out of its way to make a tiny product search company in the U.K. disappear? That would be a great story if true....
<br /><br />
Trouble is, Google doesn't "disappear" other much larger product search companies, as a quick search for "canon prices" will show you. Up pops shopper.cnet.com, pricegrabber.com, and so on, as well as, of course, Google's own product search site.
</i></blockquote>
If Google were really trying to "disappear" the competition, wouldn't it focus on sites that actually matter?
<br /><br />
Kedrosky points out the other big problem with this OpEd as well.  Despite this being written by someone who has a clear conflict of interest, he notes that you don't find this out until your well into the OpEd:
<blockquote><i>
Of course, there is a second level of stupid to this piece, and that goes to the NYT itself. It took until the fourth paragraph of the piece until we find out that the OpEd author is, you know, conflicted in that he himself runs a search company (albeit one with negligible traffic). Not only that, he has an axe to grind, as  he goes on in paragraph four to arm-wavingly allege that Google "disappeared" his site from its results.
</i></blockquote>
It makes you wonder why the NY Times would allow such an OpEd to go forward.  Kedrosky has his opinion: "apparently NY Times OpEds over the holidays are vetted by malnourished monkeys."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091228/0304247512.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091228/0304247512.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091228/0304247512.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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