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<pubDate>Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:01:22 PDT</pubDate>
<title>ReDigi Loses: You Can't Resell Your MP3s (Unless You Sell Your Whole Hard Drive)</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130401/11341622538/redigi-loses-selling-used-mp3s-online-infringes-first-sale-doesnt-apply-to-digital-transfers.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ This is hardly a surprise at all.  In fact, we <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120208/04324417700/judge-denies-injunction-against-mp3-reseller-due-to-lack-irreparable-harm-says-emis-arguments-compelling.shtml">expected</a> this kind of ruling all along.  ReDigi, the company that was trying to build a "market" around "used MP3s" has lost at the district court.  As you may recall, ReDigi tried to set up a system that monitors your own files, so that if you "sell" a used MP3, you have to make sure it's been removed from your own system.  As you might imagine, that system is not foolproof, but some effort has been made (and it's only allowed for reselling MP3s ReDigi can prove you've purchased, such as via iTunes, and not for files just ripped from CDs).  While I fully expected ReDigi to lose, the ruling is still fairly distressing in just how badly it distorts other parts of the law, which may harm other, even more reasonable uses.  Hopefully, ReDigi will appeal and fight back against the more extreme interpretation from the district court here.
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First, the court looks into the question of whether or not a transfer of a copyrighted file, where only one file remains at the end, still violates the "reproduction" right.  That is, if Bob transfers a file to Alice, and Bob's copy of the file is immediately deleted, is that still a reproduction under the Copyright Act?  The court says yes:
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...courts have not previously addressed whether the unauthorized transfer of a digital music file over the Internet &#8211; where only one file exists before and after the transfer &#8211; constitutes reproduction within the meaning of the Copyright Act. The Court holds that it does.
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The Copyright Act provides that a copyright owner has the exclusive right &#8220;to reproduce the copyrighted work in . . . phonorecords.&#8221; Copyrighted works are defined to include, inter alia, &#8220;sound recordings,&#8221; which are &#8220;works that result from the fixation of a series of musical, spoken, or other sounds.&#8221;  Such works are distinguished from their material embodiments. These include phonorecords, which are the &#8220;material objects in which sounds . . . are fixed by any method now known or later developed, and from which the sounds can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.&#8221; Thus, the plain text of the Copyright Act makes clear that reproduction occurs when a copyrighted work is fixed in a new material object.
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Of course, that same bit of the Copyright Act <i>also</i> makes clear that "copying" <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080508/1119441065.shtml">does not apply</a> to purely digital files, but the court tap dances around that argument.  Basically, it says whether or not there are more in the world is meaningless.  All that matters is if a copy was made, even if the original was destroyed.
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Simply put, it is the creation of a <b>new</b> material object and not an <b>additional</b> material object that defines the reproduction right. The dictionary defines &#8220;reproduction&#8221; to mean, inter alia, &#8220;to produce again&#8221; or &#8220;to cause to exist again or anew.&#8221; See Merriam-Webster Collegiate Edition 994 (10th ed. 1998) (emphasis added). Significantly, it is not defined as &#8220;to produce again while the original exists.&#8221; Thus, the right &#8220;to reproduce the copyrighted work in . . . phonorecords&#8221; is implicated whenever a sound recording is fixed in a new material object, regardless of whether the sound recording remains fixed in the original material object.
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Basically, under this interpretation, you can <i>never</i> "transfer" a digital file.  You can <i>only</i> make a reproduction under copyright law.  And, yes, computers transfer files by making copies of them, but it seems a bit ridiculous that the whole concept of a transfer can be wiped out because of that. In fact, by this interpretation, even <em>streaming</em> (which still involves all the data being temporarily copied to your local computer) would count as reproduction.  ReDigi pointed this out, noting the possibility of merely cleaning up your own hard drive being considered infringing, but the court buys Capitol Records's (EMI) argument that such uses are protected under other theories.
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Moving on to the question of <i>distribution</i>, ReDigi doesn't deny that it's distributing files, but says that it's protected by fair use and (more importantly), first sale.  Again, however, the court doesn't buy it.  Part of the issue may be that ReDigi "abandoned" an argument it made earlier that merely transferring a file to a cloud locker for personal use is fair use, so it's left arguing that other aspects of its service are covered by fair use, but that's much more difficult under the basic four factors test.  On this part, it's not that surprising that ReDigi failed to convince the court, as I'm not sure I see the fair use argument either.
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The first sale part is where it gets more troubling.  Effectively, the court wipes out first sale for digital goods, arguing that because (as above) each transfer is not really a "transfer" but a "copy," first sale doesn't apply.  That is, first sale only applies to the initial "copy" "made under this title."  But, the court argues, because the sale involves making a <i>new copy</i>, it's <b>not</b> covered by first sale.
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In addition, the first sale doctrine does not protect ReDigi&#8217;s distribution of Capitol&#8217;s copyrighted works. This is because, as an unlawful reproduction, a digital music file sold on ReDigi is not &#8220;lawfully made under this title.&#8221; ... Moreover, the statute protects
only distribution by &#8220;the owner of a <b>particular</b> copy or phonorecord . . . of <b>that</b> copy or phonorecord.&#8221;  Here, a ReDigi user owns the phonorecord that was created when she purchased and downloaded a song from iTunes to her hard disk. But to sell that song on ReDigi, she must produce a new phonorecord on the ReDigi server. Because it is therefore impossible for the user to sell her &#8220;particular&#8221; phonorecord on ReDigi, the first sale statute cannot provide a defense. Put another way, the first sale defense is limited to material items, like records, that the copyright owner put into the stream of commerce. Here, ReDigi is not distributing such material items; rather, it is distributing reproductions of the copyrighted code embedded in new material objects, namely, the ReDigi server in Arizona and its users&#8217; hard drives. The first sale defense does not cover this any more than it covered the sale of cassette recordings of vinyl records in a bygone era.
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That seems silly.  Selling a legally purchased MP3 is absolutely nothing like selling a cassette recording of a vinyl record.  When ReDigi points out that, under this interpretation, digital files have no first sale rights, the court hits back that this is not true.  After all, it argues, you can still <i>sell your hard drive</i> with the original file on it. No, seriously.  That's the court's response.
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Section 109(a) still protects a lawful owner&#8217;s sale of her &#8220;particular&#8221; phonorecord, be it a computer hard disk, iPod, or other memory device onto which the file was originally downloaded. While this limitation clearly presents obstacles to resale that are different from, and perhaps even more onerous than, those involved in the resale of CDs and cassettes, the limitation is hardly absurd &#8211; the first sale doctrine was enacted in a world where the ease and speed of data transfer could not have been imagined.
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The court argues that if such an interpretation is ridiculous (though it argues it is not) then it's up to Congress to fix it.
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With that out of the way, the court says that ReDigi is guilty of direct infringement, contributory infringement ("the court finally concludes that ReDigi's service <b>is not capable of substantial noninfringing uses</b>"), and vicarious infringement.  Basically, a triple play and ReDigi is completely out of the inning.  While I'm still not convinced about the fair use argument, the court basically killing off first sale for digital goods is a pretty big problem, and hopefully higher courts (or, dare we dream, Congress?) will fix such an obviously nutty ruling.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130401/11341622538/redigi-loses-selling-used-mp3s-online-infringes-first-sale-doesnt-apply-to-digital-transfers.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130401/11341622538/redigi-loses-selling-used-mp3s-online-infringes-first-sale-doesnt-apply-to-digital-transfers.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130401/11341622538/redigi-loses-selling-used-mp3s-online-infringes-first-sale-doesnt-apply-to-digital-transfers.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>a-big-first-sale-loss</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:04:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Secondhand MP3 Dealer Redigi Expanding Into Europe... And Tangling With A Whole New Set Of IP Laws</title>
<dc:creator>Tim Cushing</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130120/19474321739/secondhand-mp3-dealer-redigi-expanding-into-europe-tangling-with-whole-new-set-ip-laws.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Redigi, the &#39;used&#39; mp3 dealer, <a href="http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2013/01/redigi-to-launch-in-europe-whats-legal.html" target="_blank">is now sending out invites for its expansion into Europe</a>. While many may question how <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110218/12432213167/yet-another-company-says-it-can-help-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml" target="_blank">big the market is</a> for secondhand mp3s, Redigi obviously feels there&#39;s more money to made overseas.<br />
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In the US, Redigi is operating in the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111116/18251816799/as-expected-riaa-threatens-site-that-claims-to-let-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml" target="_blank">shadow of a lawsuit</a> filed by the RIAA (with EMI/Capitol Records taking the lead). The RIAA wanted the company shut down, but the presiding judge <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120208/04324417700/judge-denies-injunction-against-mp3-reseller-due-to-lack-irreparable-harm-says-emis-arguments-compelling.shtml" target="_blank">refused to grant the injunction</a>, citing concerns about the right of first sale, as well as a lack of "irreparable harm," as claimed by EMI. However, he did note that EMI&#39;s arguments were "compelling," which likely means that sooner or later, the RIAA will get its way. (The outcome of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121029/17262020880/supreme-court-justices-worry-about-parade-horribles-if-they-agree-you-dont-own-what-you-bought.shtml" target="_blank"><i>Kirtsaeng vs. Wiley</i></a> will also have some impact this lawsuit, should it reach its conclusion first.)<br />
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Over in Europe, Redigi is relying on a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120703/11345519566/eu-court-says-yes-you-can-resell-your-software-even-if-software-company-says-you-cant.shtml" target="_blank">ruling against Oracle</a> (who was taking on UsedSoft, a software reseller), which claimed its software couldn&#39;t be resold. "Copyright exhaustion" is the key here -- a concept related to the right of first sale -- meaning the copyright holder&#39;s control ends once the sale is made. More importantly, the European court declared that the software could be sold even if Oracle&#39;s contract with the end user prohibits resale.<br />
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Obviously, this doesn&#39;t sit well with many rights holders. As we&#39;re all too aware, when we buy a digital good, we&#39;re usually exchanging our money for a license, rather than something we can resell or transfer or even move from computer to computer. These licenses allow the control to remain with the copyright holder (or the retailer/distributor) for long after the famous "first sale." As Redigi&#39;s CEO points out, if you block the customers&#39; right of first sale, then they have <i>vastly</i> overpaid for these licenses.
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<i>[M]ost lawful users of music and books have hundreds of dollars of lawfully obtained things on their computers and right now the value of that is zero dollars.</i></blockquote>
Whether or not Redigi will be successful in Europe remains to be seen, but its business model is applying pressure to rights holders and their representatives to define <i>more clearly</i> what they feel customers are entitled to when they purchase a license disguised as a digital download.<br />
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Oh, and Redigi&#39;s CEO mentions books for a reason. The company is hoping to expand its current offerings from mp3s to ebooks... and video games. Rolling up on Amazon and re-triggering the AAA game developers&#39; distaste for the secondhand market means things could get interesting in a hurry.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130120/19474321739/secondhand-mp3-dealer-redigi-expanding-into-europe-tangling-with-whole-new-set-ip-laws.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130120/19474321739/secondhand-mp3-dealer-redigi-expanding-into-europe-tangling-with-whole-new-set-ip-laws.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130120/19474321739/secondhand-mp3-dealer-redigi-expanding-into-europe-tangling-with-whole-new-set-ip-laws.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>used-'licenses,'-anyone?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:53:45 PST</pubDate>
<title>AC/DC And Kid Rock Finally Realize That Selling Tracks Online Is Probably A Good Idea</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few years ago, people always referred to the Beatles as the biggest holdouts in terms of releasing their music for sale as MP3s online (mainly iTunes).  However, the Beatles finally came around in November of 2010.  After that, people started putting together lists of who was left and <a href="http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/11/16/beatles-itunes-holdouts/" target="_blank">AC/DC and Kid Rock</a> seemed to top most of those lists.  So it seems noteworthy that both have just caved.  Kid Rock's new album <a href="http://www.billboard.com/news/kid-rock-finally-hits-itunes-with-rebel-1007995032.story" target="_blank">is available on iTunes</a>, with someone saying that he finally realized that he could "no longer ignore how much money he was leaving on the table."  And, the latest is that <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/19/acdc-finally-available-on-itunes/" target="_blank">AC/DC has come around as well</a>.  Of course, AC/DC wasn't just not selling downloadable tracks, but they seemed philosophically opposed to the whole concept based on <a href="http://musically.com/2012/11/19/acdc-end-their-itunes-holdout/" target="_blank">some of their quotes</a>:
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<p>"I know the Beatles have changed but we're going to carry on like that," guitarist Angus Young <a href="http://news.sky.com/story/854279/rock-solid-ac-dc-stand-firm-on-downloads" target="_blank">told Sky News</a> in May 2011, after the Beatles had ended their own iTunes holdout. "For us it's the best way. We are a band who started off with albums and that's how we've always been."</p>
<p>Back in October 2008, the band were even more hardline. "Maybe I'm just being old-fashioned, but this iTunes, God bless 'em, it's going to kill music if they're not careful," singer Brian Johnson <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/10/13/us-acdc-tech-idUSTRE49C4BH20081013?pageNumber=1&#038;virtualBrandChannel=0" target="_blank">told Reuters</a>.</p>
<p>"It's a...monster, this thing.&nbsp;It just worries me. And I'm sure they're just doing it all in the interest of making as much...cash as possible. Let's put it this way, it's certainly not for the... love, let's get that out of the way, right away."</p>
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Yup.  But apparently they're finally realizing that maybe it helps to go where your fans are.  A bit late.
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Of course, looking at those quotes, they sound mighty familiar to what we're hearing these days about other services like Pandora and Spotify.  Why is it that there's always a contingent of musicians who so want to hate the services that actually deliver a legal product to fans?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20121119/02552821089/acdc-kid-rock-finally-realize-that-selling-tracks-online-is-probably-good-idea.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20121119/02552821089/acdc-kid-rock-finally-realize-that-selling-tracks-online-is-probably-good-idea.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20121119/02552821089/acdc-kid-rock-finally-realize-that-selling-tracks-online-is-probably-good-idea.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>well-look-at-that</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:59:09 PST</pubDate>
<title>Judge Denies Injunction Against MP3 Reseller Due To Lack Of Irreparable Harm... But Says EMI's Arguments Compelling</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120208/04324417700/judge-denies-injunction-against-mp3-reseller-due-to-lack-irreparable-harm-says-emis-arguments-compelling.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've said before that I'm <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110218/12432213167/yet-another-company-says-it-can-help-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml">skeptical</a> of the idea behind ReDigi -- a seller of "used" mp3s.  The company claims it has a system to make sure that if you sell a music file you own, that they then make sure it's deleted from your computer.  This just seems dumb for a variety of reasons -- some economic, some technological and some legal.  But, most of all, I just don't see people caring enough to make this a valid business.  Either way, whether it's dumb or not, the RIAA couldn't let the company actually try something new... so, of course it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111116/18251816799/as-expected-riaa-threatens-site-that-claims-to-let-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml">sued</a>, with EMI subsidiary Capitol Records taking the lead on the case.
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Somewhat surprisingly, the judge <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/redigi-digital-music-lawsuit-287410" target="_blank">refused to issue the injunction</a>, calling the case "fascinating" and noting that there were some serious issues to be dealt with concerning first sale rights around copyright (whether or not you can sell a product you bought that is covered by copyright).  However, the judge also made it clear that he thinks that <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/pre-owned-music-lawsuit-2/" target="_blank">the record labels are likely to win</a> in the end, saying that their arguments "look to be compelling." He just didn't issue the injunction because there was no evidence of irreparable harm if the site stayed up, as detailed in the transcript embedded below.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120208/04324417700/judge-denies-injunction-against-mp3-reseller-due-to-lack-irreparable-harm-says-emis-arguments-compelling.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120208/04324417700/judge-denies-injunction-against-mp3-reseller-due-to-lack-irreparable-harm-says-emis-arguments-compelling.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120208/04324417700/judge-denies-injunction-against-mp3-reseller-due-to-lack-irreparable-harm-says-emis-arguments-compelling.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>first-sale-is-dead</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 5 Dec 2011 05:38:57 PST</pubDate>
<title>D.C. Libraries Offering Free, DRM-Free MP3 Downloads From Sony Music</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111203/01341516964/dc-libraries-offering-free-drm-free-mp3-downloads-sony-music.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ The legacy entertainment industry has worked so hard to claim that getting any of their works for "free" must be illegal.  Remember, the public service announcement <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110603/02385514537/why-is-federal-government-running-ads-secretly-created-owned-nbc-universal.shtml">created</a> by NBC Universal and used by both the city government of NY and the federal government as an "anti-piracy" advertisement states that "there's no such thing as free" content.  EMI, in its fight with MP3tunes, similarly tried to claim that it never, ever, released free music online -- a point <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100618/0409509875.shtml">easily proven</a> to be false.  So it's interesting to see -- as a whole bunch of folks have sent in -- that the DC libraries recently announced that library card holders can <a href="http://dcist.com/2011/11/dc_libraries_to_offer_free_music_do.php" target="_blank">download free music from the library website</a> from Sony Music.  The <a href="http://www.dclibrary.org/books-movies-music/downloads">library website</a> says that it comes from "the entire Sony Music and IODA catalogs."  You only get to download three songs per week, but they appear to be DRM-free mp3s.  This is why it gets more and more difficult to take the big labels and the big studios seriously when they go on and on about how bad "free" is.  They're using it themselves...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111203/01341516964/dc-libraries-offering-free-drm-free-mp3-downloads-sony-music.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111203/01341516964/dc-libraries-offering-free-drm-free-mp3-downloads-sony-music.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111203/01341516964/dc-libraries-offering-free-drm-free-mp3-downloads-sony-music.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>well,-look-at-that</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:36:41 PST</pubDate>
<title>As Expected, RIAA Threatens Site That Claims To Let You Sell Used MP3s</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111116/18251816799/as-expected-riaa-threatens-site-that-claims-to-let-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier this year, we wrote yet another attempt (and there have been a few) to set up a system for <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110218/12432213167/yet-another-company-says-it-can-help-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml">"selling used mp3s."</a>  It seems like a pretty pointless idea for a few reasons.  First, why bother?  Second, all the convoluted and annoying systems the company puts in place to try to make this "legal" just makes it annoying and useless.  But, third, as we noted at the time, there was no way that the RIAA would let this happen.
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And, indeed, the RIAA <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57324477-261/riaa-demands-redigi-stop-selling-used-downloads/?part=rss&#038;subj=latest-news&#038;tag=title" target="_blank">is now demanding that ReDigi stop allowing for the sale of used mp3s</a>.  I'm having trouble thinking which is the dumber idea: trying to set up a convoluted and useless marketplace for selling "used" MP3s (something almost no one will want to do), or the RIAA even bothering to call extra attention to ReDigi by threatening and potentially suing.
<br /><br />
A tip to the RIAA: this was dumb.  Almost no one cares about or was using ReDigi anyway.  It would have just faded away.  By threatening, you bring them back into the limelight.  On top of that, you (yet again) make yourselves look like clueless luddites who wish to wipe out the First Sale doctrine.  Even worse, you could end up in a lawsuit that reminds you that the First Sale doctrine does exist, and is recognized by the courts, and you could establish a precedent that "reselling" used digital content is legal.  So why bother, other than this bizarre and shortsighted infatuation with the idea that if anyone, anywhere benefits without you getting a slice, it must be illegal?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111116/18251816799/as-expected-riaa-threatens-site-that-claims-to-let-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111116/18251816799/as-expected-riaa-threatens-site-that-claims-to-let-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111116/18251816799/as-expected-riaa-threatens-site-that-claims-to-let-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:22:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Yet Another Company Says It Can Help You Sell Used MP3s</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110218/12432213167/yet-another-company-says-it-can-help-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've seen a few websites pop up over the years claiming to create marketplaces to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081205/0327213032.shtml">"sell" used MP3s</a>.  The RIAA and the major record labels continue to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml">insist such things are illegal</a>.  However, yet another one, called ReDigi is apparently set to try and <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/02/redigi-says-theyll-sell-your-used-mp3s-legally-.html" target="_blank">it insists that its system is completely legal</a>, though specific details are lacking.
<br /><br />
That said, just the fact that the RIAA insists used MP3 sales are illegal proves how the RIAA is being knowingly dishonest in comparing MP3 downloads to "stealing a CD."  After all, it's perfectly legal to sell a used CD.  However, if the RIAA is claiming that it's not legal to sell a used MP3, then it's admitting that digital files and physical products are different.  Thus, it seems like a pretty weak argument to pretend that the rules of the physical world <i>only apply</i> when it helps the RIAA and the major record labels, but absolutely <i>do not apply</i> when it leads to consumer surplus.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110218/12432213167/yet-another-company-says-it-can-help-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110218/12432213167/yet-another-company-says-it-can-help-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110218/12432213167/yet-another-company-says-it-can-help-you-sell-used-mp3s.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 8 Feb 2011 11:36:23 PST</pubDate>
<title>Is Downloading And Converting A YouTube Video To An MP3 Infringement?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01511613004/is-downloading-converting-youtube-video-to-mp3-infringement.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ There are a variety of different tools out there that let you "record" a YouTube video and turn it into an MP3, just as there are a variety of tools out there for converting Pandora streams to MP3s or converting internet radio to MP3s.  Technically it's no different than "recording" something you hear off the radio, which is generally considered legal under the Audio Home Recording Act (which had plenty of bad things in it, but also included protections for people recording at home for personal use).
<br><br>
We may get a test of whether or not that applies to the online world, with the news that former Gnutella P2P client MP3Rocket has changed strategies and ditched its P2P offering to switch to an app that simply <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/02/mp3-rocket-hey-riaa-boss-our-users-do-not-file-share-music-anymore-they-time-shift-it.html" target="_blank">records YouTube videos and turns them into MP3s</a>.  The company seems to be relying on the Supreme Court's Betamax ruling, by claiming that since all it's really doing is "time shifting" the ability to listen to music streamed via YouTube, it's no different than the ruling that said it was okay to record television shows via video cassettes.
<br><Br>
Of course, RIAA supporters and the like will quickly counter by pointing to the various lawsuits over whether or not XM's recording device was legal.  Most of those lawsuits <A href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080610/1343371364.shtml">ended</a> in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071217/194457.shtml">settlements</a>, so I don't think there's as strong a precedent that says that turning digital streams is infringement.  However, you'd have to imagine that there's going to be one hell of a lawsuit either way.
<br><Br>
The reality is that this is yet another case of the law not being able to keep up with technology.  There simply is no intellectually honest rationale that says recording songs off the radio is legal, but recording songs off your computer is illegal.  It's a weak attempt by an industry that doesn't want to deal with changing technology to put in place laws that prevent what the technology allows.  Those never work.
<br><br>
It certainly would be nice to see the Supreme Court note that something like this really is no different than the Betamax ruling, but given the Supreme Court's various bad copyright rulings over the last few years, I have little faith that it will do so.  Instead, it would likely just use a case like this to chip further away at the Betamax ruling, just as the Grokster decision did.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01511613004/is-downloading-converting-youtube-video-to-mp3-infringement.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01511613004/is-downloading-converting-youtube-video-to-mp3-infringement.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01511613004/is-downloading-converting-youtube-video-to-mp3-infringement.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:58:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>As Expected, Bluebeat's 'Psycho Acoustic Simulations' Of Beatles Music Still Infringe On Copyrights</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101214/02455512270/as-expected-bluebeats-psycho-acoustic-simulations-beatles-music-still-infringe-copyrights.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ About a year ago, we wrote about the somewhat <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091104/1304516798.shtml">bizarre case</a> of a website called Bluebeat.com that claimed to legally be selling Beatles MP3s for $0.25.  Of course, EMI disagreed and sued.  Bluebeat's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091105/1642426817.shtml">explanation</a> was that it wasn't selling actual copies of the original music but had re-recorded the songs using "psycho-acoustic simulation," which made it a totally "new work" in their eyes.  But not, of course, the eyes of the law.  Basically, Bluebeat was trying to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091109/1005266855.shtml">misread a section of copyright law</a> and a court is having none of that.  In a move that will surprise almost no one, the lawsuit against Bluebeat <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/thr-esq/record-labels-win-case-website-59213" target="_blank">succeeded on summary judgment</a>, with the judge noting that "BlueBeat fails to provide any evidence...showing how or why its purported 'simulations' are anything but illicit copies of the Copyrighted Recordings."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101214/02455512270/as-expected-bluebeats-psycho-acoustic-simulations-beatles-music-still-infringe-copyrights.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101214/02455512270/as-expected-bluebeats-psycho-acoustic-simulations-beatles-music-still-infringe-copyrights.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101214/02455512270/as-expected-bluebeats-psycho-acoustic-simulations-beatles-music-still-infringe-copyrights.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 03:56:34 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Bogus 'Free' MP3 Download Site Going Away, Blaming Blogs For Wanting To Ruin Its Popularity</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101027/05112611606/bogus-free-mp3-download-site-going-away-blaming-blogs-for-wanting-to-ruin-its-popularity.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Back at the end of August, we noted the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100831/03454710834.shtml">ridiculous claims</a> of an operation called "ZapTunes," which insisted that it was offering unlimited MP3 downloads for $25/month -- but with a "free" trial period (but one where you still had to hand over your credit card details).  As we said at the time, nothing about the site sounded legit, despite its claims to the contrary.  A little digging suggested that the site was actually just a search engine for MP3s, using (at least) Last.fm's database (which includes plenty of song listings that you can't download).  $25 per month for a search engine that suggested you could access songs that simply weren't online (musicians who used Last.fm saw their own unreleased tracks "listed" in the search engine)?  Uh, yeah, right.  On top of that, there were bizarre, unsubstantiated claims about $5 million in funding.
<br /><br />
We also noted that the site was already being sued by EMI, and now (not surprisingly), the company has <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2010/10/zaptunes-gets-killed-claims-site-wasnt-a-fraud.html" target="_blank">announced that it's shutting down the site</a> in a week, with a bizarre and equally amusing press release, claiming that it was "angry music bloggers," who "despised the attention" the company got, who helped "ruin" the site's "popularity."  Um.  Yeah.  Except none of that is true.  If there were actually a site that offered this kind of deal, legally, tons of sites would report on it happily and encourage people to check it out.  But this clearly was not such a site.  The company claims it will be back, but, given that it couldn't substantiate any of its initial claims, I wouldn't hold my breath for that...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101027/05112611606/bogus-free-mp3-download-site-going-away-blaming-blogs-for-wanting-to-ruin-its-popularity.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101027/05112611606/bogus-free-mp3-download-site-going-away-blaming-blogs-for-wanting-to-ruin-its-popularity.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101027/05112611606/bogus-free-mp3-download-site-going-away-blaming-blogs-for-wanting-to-ruin-its-popularity.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:35:14 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Questionable Site Claims To Legally Offer Unlimited MP3 Downloads... Record Label Lawyers Already Springing Into Action</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ What is it with random companies springing up <i>claiming</i> to have <i>legal</i> download offerings that don't pass the laugh test.  Remember a year ago, we talked about a company called Bluebeat.com that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091105/1642426817.shtml">claimed</a> to be the only site where you could legally buy Beatles MP3s, based on a bit of absolutely ridiculous logic, that it was using "psycho-acoustic simulation" to <i>recreate</i> the tracks, thereby giving it a brand new copyright.  That company also got a registration for these "new" works by the Copyright Office, hoping that most people wouldn't notice that the Copyright Office registration process is a pure rubber stamp effort, and conveys no actual legitimacy to a bogus copyright.
<br /><br />
Well, it looks like we've got another similar situation, as some mysterious company called ZapTunes is claiming to offer <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2010/08/zaptunes-unlimited-mp3-downloads-for-just-25-a-month-to-good-to-be-true.html" target="_blank">unlimited MP3 downloads for $25/month</a> -- with an initial "free" period, though you have to hand over your credit card details.  The whole thing sounds highly questionable, however.  The store claims to have licensed the work from all the major labels, including being able to offer Beatles MP3s and AC/DC MP3s -- which have not been offered in MP3 format anywhere.
<br /><br />
In the comments on that Hypebot article, some point out that the company appears to just be scraping Last.fm data, as it found a track that one guy had created himself, which only lived on his computer (but which had been "scrobbled" and the info was sent to Last.fm).  The company also claims to have raised "about $5 million in funding from various Venture Capitalists," but doesn't seem to name any of them.
<br /><br />
Despite the claims from the company that they've secured the necessary licenses for this, it appears not everyone agrees.  EMI is apparently <a href="http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&#038;storycode=1042344&#038;c=1" target="_blank">already starting the legal process</a>.  The whole thing really makes me wonder if these sites honestly think that people will buy their claims when there seems to be little evidence to support them.  There are plenty of sites out there that offer up such content in a clearly unauthorized manner -- but at least they're honest about what they do.  It seems pretty silly and destined to fail massively to falsely claim the legal rights to music you almost certainly did not license.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100831/03454710834.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100831/03454710834.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100831/03454710834.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:44:53 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Michael Robertson's Crowdsourced List Of 1,400 Examples Of EMI Giving Away Free Music; EMI Denies All But 3</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Want some free music from EMI?  You may remember that EMI is in a legal battle with Michael Robertson and his current company MP3Tunes (well, one of his current companies).  MP3Tunes is a music locker.  It only lets you upload your own songs, but also does have a search engine, Sideload.com, that will search for freely available music online.  As part of the lawsuit, EMI insisted that EMI has never authorized music to be posted for free online, so any and all music from EMI that is found by Sideload must be unauthorized.  Except... of course. that's not true.  EMI hands out free mp3s to journalists all the time to post, and often has them on their own website. When asked about it, EMI finally admitted to allowing a grand total of <i>three</i> songs to be distributed freely online.
<br /><br />
To prove that EMI was lying, last fall, Michael Robertson offered up a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090916/1907106215.shtml" target="_blank">bookmarklet</a> that people could use to let him know whenever they found free MP3s of EMI music on legitimate sites (mainstream media, artist's own websites, label marketing sites, etc.).  That "You Lie, EMI" bookmarklet seems to have worked wonders.  Robertson has <a href="http://www.michaelrobertson.com/archive.php?minute_id=319" target="_blank">now collected over 1,400 examples</a> of EMI giving away free MP3s.  He's even put the whole list in a nice <a href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtQqjKGFVBWBdDBVVjRQd2xZQUZSSUYtcGhrNTczN0E&#038;hl=en#gid=0" target="_blank">Google spreadsheet</a>, so you can check it out yourself (and even see where EMI has put up free music).
<br /><br />
I'm not surprised to see our friend Lily Allen on the list.  As you may recall, last fall, right after Lily went on a bit of a rant about the evils of file sharing and distributing unauthorized music, we pointed out that on her official LilyAllenMusic website, she and EMI (who runs the website) were <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090923/1409046297.shtml">distributing mixtapes</a> full of songs from EMI artists... and artists from other record labels as well (though, we doubt EMI got the rights to do that).
<br /><br />
Either way, nice job crowdsourcing the proof that EMI does, in fact, lie:
<blockquote><i>
This list is just a fraction of the songs EMI makes available, but it's irrefutable that EMI uses free song files as promotion. Astonishingly they are still telling the court that they don't authorize song files to be distributed for free. They are denying these songs are legitimate in spite of overwhelming evidence of MP3 files from retailers, blogs, artist sites, label sites, and marketing sites. Even when you point to one of their <a href="http://www.theinsoundfromwayout.com/downloads/">own corporate blogs</a> which offers downloads they remain steadfast in their claim that they don't distribute MP3s online for free.
<br /><br />
Thanks to the MP3tunes user community, we have powerful evidence to refute EMI's claims that they don't distribute promotional songs. I think it's one of the first examples of crowdsourcing evidence. The evidence was assembled not by parties to the litigation or their legal teams but citizens with a computer and motivation to help out. We'll learn later this year whether it will help MP3tunes prevail.
</i></blockquote>
But weren't we just told by the head of PPL in the UK (home of EMI) that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100614/1410259812.shtml">"there is no such thing" as "promotion"</a> when it comes to music, and "for free" should be erased from our vocabulary.  Perhaps that explains EMI's actions.  They no longer recognize the concept of free promotion as existing after listening to Fran Nevrkla's speech.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100618/0409509875.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100618/0409509875.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100618/0409509875.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:45:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>EMI Sues Music Site Offering Beatles MP3s</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last last week, a bunch of music blogs started noticing that a previously unknown site called Bluebeat.com was <a href="http://musically.com/blog/2009/10/30/bluebeat-streaming-and-selling-beatles-albums-digitally/" target="_blank">selling MP3s for $0.25</a>, including numerous acts that still haven't officially authorized online sales -- such as The Beatles and AC/DC.  There was a lot of headscratching among bloggers and reporters who wondered how this could possibly be legal.  The answer, of course, is that it wasn't.  The site didn't even make any attempt whatsoever to claim that they had licensed this music.  They just said they thought that $0.25 was a better price for music.  Not surprisingly, it took <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8342277.stm" target="_blank">just a few days before EMI sued the site</a>, and I'd imagine other lawsuits will quickly follow as well.  It's not clear what the folks at Bluebeat were thinking -- other than that they were about to get a ton of publicity in the form of lawsuits, but it's hard to see what good that publicity is if the site is forced out of business.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091104/1304516798.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091104/1304516798.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091104/1304516798.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:48:11 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Free MP3s... If You Sit Through An Ad</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ I've seen all sorts of business models involving "free, but ad supported" music, but none of them really seem sustainable.  This latest one is different, but I'm still not sure it has a chance.  Rather than the typical "play music and have ads off to the side somewhere" model that most take, Free All Music, gives you a chance to download DRM-free MP3s... <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-10364950-27.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-20" target="_new">if you first watch a video ad</a>.  They even let you pick what sponsor you want to let "buy you" the music (and then, that advertiser gets to put your user name in future ads, noting that you downloaded the music).
<br /><br />
While this is a more creative use of advertising that probably has more value to the advertiser than the typical ad-supported music sites (where most people just ignore the ads), it still seems likely to have some serious problems.  First, the site is betting that consumption habits on such a site would be the same as iTunes -- 15 songs over the course of three months -- and is looking for ad deals to support that.  But... that assumes that as the price drops from $1 to "time spent watching an ad" consumption wouldn't go up.  Without the monetary barrier, it seems likely that consumption would increase significantly.
<br /><br />
On top of that, I don't really see how the economics work, given traditional models in both the music and ad industry.  It's not that those models necessarily make sense (in fact, I'd argue neither make sense), but it's what both sides will expect.  On that front, you've got the record labels, who are used to getting approximately $0.67 per downloaded song.  Assuming that needs to be made up by the ad (and even ignoring any profit for the site), then every single ad shown needs to cost that same $0.67.  Translated into traditional ad terms, that's a CPM of $670.  Yikes.  I don't know any advertiser will to pay anything close to that -- even if it's targeted and you have a half decent chance of the person paying attention.  Most CPM ad rates online these days are in the sub-$5 area.  Convincing advertisers to jump to a $670 CPM on an unproven model?  <i>Good luck</i>.
<br /><br />
Finally, even if it's "free" it sounds pretty inconvenient.  The fact is that people do have alternatives, such as file sharing networks.  While they're not legal, they don't require you to waste a bunch of time before you can get the music you want to listen to.  I'm sure some people would use it, but not enough to really matter long term.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091001/0333186385.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091001/0333186385.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091001/0333186385.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:04:46 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Michael Robertson Wants To Crowdsource Proof Of EMI's Lies: You Lie EMI Bookmarklet Available</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ EMI has been involved in a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081002/0952372437.shtml">lawsuit</a> with MP3Tunes for a while now.  The whole lawsuit seems weird, since MP3Tunes is about creating a storage locker for the songs you already have.  But one of the points that MP3Tunes made in response to EMI's claims is that EMI was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090102/1907093270.shtml">lying</a> in saying that it has never authorized MP3s to be available online.  Yet, MP3Tunes had found plenty of promotional tracks that EMI had clearly put online, and it was wondering why others were allowed to link to them, but EMI claimed it was infringement for MP3Tunes to point to those same songs.  In presenting this point in court, MP3Tunes has been looking for more evidence of authorized EMI mp3s, and Michael Robertson has announced <a href="http://www.michaelrobertson.com/archive.php?minute_id=302" target="_new">the "You Lie EMI" bookmarklet</a> (found via <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/09/mp3com-founder-robertson-says-emi-you-lie-and-asks-your-help-to-prove-it.html" target="_blank">Hypebot</a>), that lets anyone help MP3Tunes find more authorized EMI mp3s.  Basically, as you surf around, if you come across authorized songs that are available, you can click the bookmarklet, and it checks to see if the artists is an EMI artist, and then lets you submit the details.  Whatever happens with the lawsuit itself, it's cool to see someone crowdsourcing data for their defense.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090916/1907106215.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090916/1907106215.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090916/1907106215.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:46:53 PDT</pubDate>
<title>If Downloading A Song Is Just Like Stealing A CD, Why Won't The RIAA Allow Reselling MP3s?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ When you hear RIAA defenders insist that an unauthorized download is "just like stealing a CD" or something along those lines, it's worth noting even they don't really mean it.  After all, if a digital file really was no different than a physical goods purchase, then you'd be able to do other things with it -- such as resell it.  And yet, as you read through Eliot Van Buskirk's article about new online services trying to <a href="http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-06-18/music/byte-this/" target="_new">create marketplaces for people to sell their "used" MP3s</a>, you'll see the scenario is quite different.  After all, it's perfectly legal to sell your used CDs, but now when it comes to selling used MP3s you need a record label's permission?  Why?  Well, because even the record labels seem to inherently know that a CD is quite different from a download.  So when the RIAA claims they're the same, what they really mean is "only the stuff we like is the same."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090622/0034405309.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 09:48:49 PDT</pubDate>
<title>How About Paying Bands $0.50 For Every Free Dowload?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090522/0123434972.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We were just talking about how there are more and more <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090519/0213544923.shtml">new startups</a> in the market to help bands do everything they need to do to both make music and make money these days -- and one of the most successful has been ReverbNation, who has created a variety of tools for musicians to help them both distribute music and connect with fans in new and compelling ways.  And, now, the company has announced that it not only wants to help bands give away DRM-free mp3 music for free, but <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/05/reverbnation-to-indie-artists-well-pay-you-to-give-away-your-music-.html" target="_new">it will <i>pay some of them</i> $0.50 per download</a>.  Who says free can't pay?  Of course, as always, there is a money-making business model involved.  In this case, it's that ReverbNation will get to include a small ad in the cover art that appears with the album.  Also, it's only open to a 1,000 bands.  I'm not convinced this is a <i>sustainable</i> model, as "ad supported" music strikes me as a market where it will be tough to get enough ad revenue to make it worthwhile -- but it's still a neat experiment to watch and see how it evolves.  It certainly may help get more indie bands over the fear of putting their music out there for free on purpose -- and hopefully some of those bands will recognize the other benefits of doing so, beyond just the $0.50 per download from ReverbNation.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090522/0123434972.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090522/0123434972.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090522/0123434972.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:44:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Amazon's Best Selling MP3 Album For 2008 Was Available Legally For Free</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090105/1657523291.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ As some of you may know, in a week and a half I'm giving a presentation at the music industry <a href="http://www.midem.com/App/homepage.cfm?appname=100508&#038;moduleid=434">MidemNet conference</a>, focusing on how Trent Reznor's various business model <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?site=&#038;cx=partner-pub-4050006937094082%3Acx0qff-dnm1&#038;cof=FORID%3A9&#038;ie=ISO-8859-1&#038;q=trent+reznor">experiments</a> highlight the future of the music industry.  I'll be putting the final touches on my presentation this week, and it's great to find one additional data point: the <a href="http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/11947" target="_new">top selling MP3 download on Amazon last year was Nine Inch Nails' Ghosts I-IV album</a>, which you probably know Reznor put under a pretty open Creative Commons license (and even gave away a bunch of the tracks himself).  In other words, you could go on pretty much any file sharing system out there and <i>legally</i> download the music for personal use... and yet it was still the <i>top selling</i> downloadable album (this is on top of all the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080313/171933538.shtml">money earned</a> by Reznor's other business models associated with this album).  Certainly puts a nice little cherry on top of the theme of my presentation.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090105/1657523291.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090105/1657523291.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090105/1657523291.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:16:04 PST</pubDate>
<title>A Market For Used MP3s... Or A Parody To Prove A Point?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081205/0327213032.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://youtube.com/churchhatestucker">ChurchHatesTucker</a> was the first of a few readers to send in the news about a new website claiming to have <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/03/second-hand-mp3-site" target="_new">set up an online system for selling "used" or secondhand MP3s</a>.  The whole idea, of course, is fairly ridiculous, which leads me (and CHT) to believe that this is more making a statement to show just how silly it is whenever recording industry types try to treat digital copies as if they were physical objects, or declare that "downloading an MP3 is no different than walking out of a shop with a CD you haven't paid for."  If so, bravo for the satire.  If, however, this actually is real, I imagine it will survive all of about a day, before it gets shut down.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081205/0327213032.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081205/0327213032.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081205/0327213032.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:58:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Will The RIAA Sue Judge Kozinski For Sharing MP3s?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080612/1221191391.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While judge Alex Kozinski is getting a ton of press for accidentally <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080611/1806261381.shtml">sharing pornographic images</a> from his webserver, Justin Levine notes that the report concerning what was on the server <a href="http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=740" target="_new">also found music MP3s from musicians like Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan and Weird Al Yankovic</a>.  Levine wonders if the RIAA will now sue this federal judge as well.  In fact, things could get tricky in that some research suggests not only was Kozinski storing MP3s, he may have actively been <a href="http://patterico.com/2008/06/12/more-on-cyrus-sanais-campaign-against-judge-kozinski/">sharing some of those MP3s</a> as well. That same link mentions that in one of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?site=&#038;q=perfect+10">many</a> copyright infringement lawsuits concerning the company Perfect 10, Kozinski wrote a dissenting opinion suggesting that facilitating copyright infringement should be seen as infringement as well:
<blockquote><i>
"When it comes to traffic in material that violates the Copyright Act, the policy of the United States is embedded in the
FBI warning we see at the start of every lawfully purchased
or rented video: Infringers are to be stopped and prosecuted."
</i></blockquote>
There's a lot more involved in his opinion, which really focuses on credit card companies <i>profiting</i> from infringement -- but considering how he much he writes against those who help others infringe, it's probably not a wise idea that he was out there sharing music files himself.
<br /><br />
However, to be fair, as the details come out, this whole thing is quite clearly a <a href="http://lessig.org/blog/2008/06/the_kozinski_mess.html">witch hunt</a> by someone who seriously dislikes the judge.  As we noted when the story broke, it's perfectly ridiculous to try to suggest this makes him any less qualified to judge cases.  And, indeed, as the details come out about the content on his server, it's becoming clear that it is, as he noted "funny" stuff.  It's all basically the sort of silly <a href="http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/06/12/here-comes-the-judges-porn/">viral content</a> that gets passed around all the time, much more for the amusement factor than any sort of titillation.  
<br /><br />
This post certainly isn't to slam Kozinski, who seems like a genuinely thoughtful judge -- with a sense of humor to boot (he famously <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/15/politics/16text-blogs.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin">nominated himself</a> for a mocking "Judicial Hottie" contest run by a blog, noting: "While I think the list of female candidates is excellent, the list of male candidates is, frankly, lacking. And what it's lacking is me.... I have it on very good authority that discerning females and gay men find graying, pudgy, middle-aged men with an accent close to Gov. Schwarzenegger's almost totally irresistible."  The fact that he was also sharing MP3s, again, is just yet another reminder that, contrary to the entertainment's claim that "education" will solve music sharing, many people just think it's perfectly natural and reasonable to share a song with some friends.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080612/1221191391.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080612/1221191391.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080612/1221191391.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:11:35 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Collapse of Music DRM Continues; DRM Customers Still Screwed</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Lee</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080520/0551131178.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Support for DRM in the recording industry is in freefall. On Tuesday, Napster <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9945987-7.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-20">released a new version of its music store</a> offering 6 million DRM-free tracks. Napster is a relative latecomer to this party, joining <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070402/081920.shtml">Apple</a>, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070516/074333.shtml">Amazon</a>, and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080408/003857784.shtml">Wal-Mart</a>, all of whom have had at least some DRM-free, major-label music available for about a year. One difference, though, is that Napster is coming out of the chute with support from all four major labels and thousands of smaller labels as well. At this point, any music store that <i>doesn't</i> offer DRM-free tracks is going to look like a real laggard. This story wasn't too surprising given the way things have been going over the last year. But even <i>less</i> surprising is the fact that customers who were foolish enough to purchase DRMed content from previous versions of Napster are stuck with their decision. They don't get to update their content to MP3 format, and while Napster has decided to continue running its "license servers" for now, it's only a matter of time before Napster decides running those servers is more trouble than it's worth and shuts them off, cutting customers off from their music libraries entirely.</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080520/0551131178.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080520/0551131178.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080520/0551131178.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:36:32 PDT</pubDate>
<title>RIAA Now Decides That Not Enough People Have Heard Of Project Playlist</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080428/194905972.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ There they go again.  The RIAA and MPAA keep picking totally random, mostly unknown, startups and suing them -- giving them <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060607/1558240.shtml">all sorts</a> of free <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080418/010122883.shtml">publicity</a>.  They did it years ago with Napster and more recently with The Pirate Bay.  And yet... they keep doing it.  In the latest example, the RIAA <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9930419-7.html?part=rss&#038;subj=news&#038;tag=2547-1_3-0-20" target="_new">is suing a company called Project Playlist</a>, which offers apps for MySpace and Facebook that let you play music found elsewhere online.  There are a bunch of similar offerings out there (some of which I think are even more well known).  If this case goes forward, it could be quite interesting, as again it's hard to see how Project Playlist is the liable party.  It just lets users point its player to mp3 files that are found on other sites.  Those files may be infringing, but Project Playlist is just the player.  It would be like suing Sony for making a Walkman on the assumption that most tapes used in Walkmen include infringing copies of songs.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080428/194905972.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080428/194905972.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080428/194905972.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:45:20 PST</pubDate>
<title>RIAA NOT Saying That Personal Copies Are Illegal (Yet)</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071211/101325.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ I believe that lawyer Ray Beckerman has done some wonderful things in defending people being bullied by the RIAA and accused of infringing on copyrights with very little evidence.  He also does a fantastic job keeping people informed on the issues with his <a href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/">Recording Industry vs. The People</a> blog.  However, his latest post about the RIAA changing their argument to say that <a href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/12/riaa-files-supplemental-brief-in.html">making personal copies to one's own computer is infringement</a> is misleading at best.  And, worse, many <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/11/0436215&#038;from=rss">big sites</a> are <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/11/riaa-you-arent-autho.html">repeating the claim</a>.  Unfortunately, it's not quite true and it seriously hurts the arguments of those who think the RIAA is going too far to mislead in this way.  What the RIAA's lawyers clearly seem to be saying is that putting mp3 files that you legally ripped <i>into a shared Kazaa folder</i> makes them no longer authorized.  In other words, this is simply an extension of their old standby, the argument that "making available" is infringement.  The RIAA's argument here seems to be that putting content in a shared Kazaa folder is "making available," and if making available is infringement, then clearly these files infringe.
<br /><br />
Now, it's quite fair to argue that point (and argue it we should, because there are troublesome implications if a shared folder is all you need to create infringing content).  However, that is not, in any way, saying that simply ripping your CDs is infringement, and it weakens the arguments of Beckerman and other supporters to take the RIAA's argument out of context and present it as something it is not.  The RIAA certainly takes others' arguments out of context and exaggerates statements to suggest that anyone questioning their strategy is just a "pirate."  However, that's no reason to sink to the RIAA's level.  Instead, why can't we be intellectually honest and focus on what the RIAA is actually saying and why <i>that</i> is problematic?  There's no reason to exaggerate the RIAA's stance or take it out of context.  It's troublesome enough in real life without having to twist it further.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071211/101325.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071211/101325.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071211/101325.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 7 Dec 2007 00:39:35 PST</pubDate>
<title>Western Digital Decides That You Shouldn't Be Allowed To Share Any MP3</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <b>Rich Kulawiec</b> writes in to let us know about a <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html">Boing Boing</a> post about some fairly ridiculous limitations on Western Digital's networked drives.  Apparently, once you've set up the drive, you can subscribe to a service that will allow others to access your drive from the internet (rather than on the local network).  You can set up accounts for specific people, including highlighting what is available to be shared with that person.  However, Western Digital has simply decided that under no circumstance can you share <a href="http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1495">a variety of multimedia filetypes</a>, such as mp3s, wmvs, aac or others.  Its reasoning is that this is "due to unverifiable media license authentication," which is basically a gibberish way of saying that you might be infringing on someone's copyright.  Of course, you might not be either.  There are an awful lot of media files out there that are perfectly legitimate to share with others.  Certainly, this sort of action makes this service useless to a musician who records tracks and makes them available to his record label using such a drive.  The key question, though, is why Western Digital should bother at all.  There's certainly no legal reason for Western Digital to do such a thing -- and all it does is make their drives a lot less useful for perfectly legitimate activities.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071206/221557.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071206/221557.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071206/221557.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:05:23 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Blaming MP3s And iPods For Ruining Music</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It seems that with every new generation of music delivery, there are going to be people who complain that the quality just isn't up to par with what came before.  Remember when CDs first came out, there were quite a few upturned noses who insisted the sound quality just couldn't compete with vinyl LPs.  And now that mp3s are becoming the standard, folks are complaining that the quality simply can't live up to CDs.  This has certainly gone on for a while, as we've noted there are even online stores that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050602/1815215.shtml">cater to audiophiles</a> who believe that compressed mp3s just aren't worth listening to.  However, now it's going even further, as the WSJ claims that some audio engineers are saying that <a href="http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis&#038;etMailToID=1690973872">the popularity of mp3s and iPods is ruining music</a>.  The theory is that audio engineers are using iPods and mp3s as the lowest common denominator for recordings.  Since they know that so many people are going to end up hearing the song just through the cheap white earbuds of an iPod, that they don't bother to make a high quality recording that would sound better on high end stereo equipment.  Thus, the claim goes, pretty much all music is sounding somewhat crappy, and it's turning people off from the latest crop of new songs.  In other words, music is less popular today, because the songs are engineered to sound like crap.  This seems silly.  It's certainly a different argument than the industry's typical claim that downloads are killing the music business -- but it's equally ridiculous.  Sure, there may be some engineers who are doing a cruddy job in engineering the music, but as one audio engineer in the story notes, there's no reason to ever engineer a song "down" to mp3 levels.  Instead, you should just engineer it to a higher level and it'll sound fine on a CD as well on an iPod.  However, to put the whole thing in perspective: songs compressed to mp3 level certainly do lose some quality at the margin, but there's only a small group of audiophiles who really care or will notice on a regular basis.  At the same time, compare that to how much more music is being produced today thanks to cheaper production tools and easier distribution of music through the internet, and I think you could make the case that the mp3 and the iPod has done a lot more to improve music than to hurt it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070911/200843.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070911/200843.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070911/200843.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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