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<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Crackpots Versus Real Scientists</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Over a hundred years ago, Albert Einstein published what would become his theory of special relativity, and since then, there have been quite a few experiments that support Einstein's ideas. That's the way science usually works. A <s>theory</s> hypothesis is proposed, and if it's deemed worthy enough, other people will actually try to test out the <s>theory</s> hypothesis and see if its predictions can be verified (and every worthy <s>theory</s> hypothesis needs to be able to predict something that isn't already known). As non-traditional scientific publishing becomes easier and more popular, though, the signal-to-noise for interesting ideas can get a bit difficult to discern. Luckily, there are still some folks willing to bear the burden of debunking extraordinary claims from an endless stream of nearly-good ideas.

<ul>

<li> <a title="http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=458" href="http://bit.ly/16vCIXV">Vinay Deolalikar posted his "proof" that P!=NP a few years ago, but it didn't quite stand up to the scrutiny of some mathematicians -- and you, too, can dismiss an extraordinary proof by watching out for a few telltale signs.</a> It's hard to refute <i>everyone</i> who claims to have a P!=NP proof, but there's a roadmap for how to avoid wasting other mathematicians' valuable time. [<a href="http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=458">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/11/exceptionally-simple-theory-of.html" href="http://bit.ly/12qin23">A. Garrett Lisi has a grand unifying theory of the universe, but maybe he should stick to surfing.</a> Lisi's <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/garrett_lisi_on_his_theory_of_everything.html">TEDtalk</a> is amazingly devoid of physics, but the Large Hadron Collider may have the final say about whether "E8" provides any unique insights on the universe. [<a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/11/exceptionally-simple-theory-of.html">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://projectwordsworth.com/the-paradox-of-the-proof/" href="http://bit.ly/1012f7k">In 2012, Japanese mathematician Shinichi Mochizuki posted 500+ pages (on the internet!) that "might" prove the ABC Conjecture.</a> Mochizuki refuses to discuss his proof, and so far, no one else has really been able to tell him he's wrong. [<a href="http://projectwordsworth.com/the-paradox-of-the-proof/">url</a>]</li>

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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:14:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Even An East Texas Court Has Told Uniloc That It Can't Patent Math</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Even a notoriously patent-friendly court like the district court in East Texas has admitted that there are limits to what's patentable.  Notorious <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/?company=uniloc">patent troll</a> Uniloc, whose name has been appearing quite frequently lately, has <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/you-cant-patent-simple-math-judge-tells-patent-troll-uniloc/" target="_blank">lost one part of its big cases</a>, against Rackspace, after the district court in Tyler, Texas has said one of the patents in question in this lawsuit, <a href="http://www.google.com/patents/US5892697" target="_blank">US Patent 5,892,697</a> on a "Method and apparatus for handling overflow and underflow in processing floating-point numbers," is really patenting basic mathematical functions, and you can't do that. 
<blockquote><i>
Claim 1, then, is merely an improvement on a mathematical formula. Even when tied to computing, since floating-point numbers are a computerized numeric format, the conversion of floating-point numbers has applications across fields as diverse as science, math, communications, security, graphics, and games. <b>Thus, a patent on Claim 1 would cover vast end uses, impeding the onward march of science.</b>
</i></blockquote>
While this is nice, this is just one patent in that particular lawsuit, and Uniloc has dozens of other patents that it's using in other lawsuits.  And Uniloc shows no signs of slowing down.  Just the other day it <a href="http://dockets.justia.com/search?query=Uniloc&#038;search=Search&#038;stateorcourt=&#038;judge=&#038;lawsuittype=&#038;documentfilter=allcases&#038;after=&#038;before=" target="_blank">filed 12 new lawsuits</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130328/15373322500/even-east-texas-court-has-told-uniloc-that-it-cant-patent-math.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130328/15373322500/even-east-texas-court-has-told-uniloc-that-it-cant-patent-math.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130328/15373322500/even-east-texas-court-has-told-uniloc-that-it-cant-patent-math.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 07:57:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Crazy Idea Of The Month: Allowing Patents On Mathematics</title>
<dc:creator>Glyn Moody</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>
It would be something of an understatement to say that people have strong opinions about patents.  But as Techdirt has reported, there's a growing <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121127/11245721156/some-thoughts-fixing-problems-patent-system.shtml">consensus</a> that software patents in particular aren't working -- James Bessen and Michael J. Meurer have written an entire book, "<a href="http://researchoninnovation.org/dopatentswork/">Patent Failure</a>", about how bad things are there, and why it's happening in this area rather than elsewhere.
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<p>
One of the key problems is that software patents are essentially patents on mathematical algorithms -- sets of instructions for carrying out a calculation.  Since it has long been a principle that you can't patent mathematical formulae or laws of nature, there is a tension there: if software is just mathematics, why should you be able to patent it at all?  <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729086.300">New Scientist</a> points to an interesting article in the April 2013 issue of Notices of the American Mathematical Society, in which <a href="http://www.ams.org/notices/201304/rnoti-p475.pdf">David A. Edwards
 proposes a radical way of solving that conundrum</a> (pdf):

<i><blockquote>At present, only those things which are made by man are patentable. Thus, the courts have allowed new forms of bacteria which have been engineered to have useful properties using recombinant DNA techniques to be patented but would not allow such a bacterium to be patented if it were naturally occurring even if it were newly discovered. This is the basis for the nonpatentability of computer programs. They are algorithms, which are essentially mathematical formulas, which -- as everyone  knows -- are "eternal" and hence discovered by man and not created by him. This argument which, to say the least, is philosophically controversial, leads to our present unfortunate policy. From an economic point of view, there is no rationale for distinguishing between discovery and invention, and we would advocate dropping entirely any subject matter restrictions whatsoever on what can be patented. One should be able to patent anything not previously known to man.</blockquote></i>

In particular, he believes it should be <b>possible to patent mathematics, and hence software</b>.
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<p>
One of his arguments is that this would spur people to make more discoveries.  But that presupposes mathematicians aren't trying to do that now for glory, peer esteem and tenure, but there's no evidence to suggest that.  The same argument is sometimes made in support of software patents -- that they stimulate the production of more software.  But that overlooks the fact that the computer industry thrived for decades before the introduction of software patents, and that companies like Microsoft grew into hugely profitable enterprises without them.
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<p>
Indeed, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/09/opinion/09lee.html?_r=0">in 1991 Bill Gates famously warned about the problems that software patents would create for the industry and his company</a>:

<i><blockquote>In a memo to his senior executives, Bill Gates wrote, "If people had understood how patents would be granted when most of today's ideas were invented, and had taken out patents, the industry would be at a complete standstill today." Mr. Gates worried that "some large company will patent some obvious thing" and use the patent to "take as much of our profits as they want."</blockquote></i>

That, of course, is exactly what has happened since the introduction of software patents, leading to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/08/technology/patent-wars-among-tech-giants-can-stifle-competition.html?pagewanted=all&#038;_r=1&#038;">the following situation today</a>:

<i><blockquote>In the smartphone industry alone, according to a Stanford University analysis, as much as $20 billion was spent on patent litigation and patent purchases in the last two years -- an amount equal to eight Mars rover missions. Last year, for the first time, spending by Apple and Google on patent lawsuits and unusually big-dollar patent purchases exceeded spending on research and development of new products, according to public filings.</blockquote></i>

That's bad enough for huge companies with deep pockets; it would be even worse for universities on tight budgets which might suddenly find themselves sued for using mathematical formulae without permission -- a ludicrous situation.  Edwards seems to be aware that this is a problem, and tries to address it as follows:

<i><blockquote>Since patents only give control over the commercial applications of his or her discovery or invention to the patentee, granting patents on mathematical formulas, laws of nature, and natural phenomena would have no negative side effects on pure science.</blockquote></i>

That's not really the case, in the US at least, thanks to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_exemption#Common_law_research_exemption">Madey v. Duke University</a>,
 as Wikipedia explains:

<i><blockquote>In 2002, the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit dramatically limited the scope of the research exemption in Madey v. Duke University, 307 F.3d 1351, 1362 (Fed. Cir. 2002). The court did not reject the defense, but left only a "very narrow and strictly limited experimental use defense" for "amusement, to satisfy idle curiosity, or for strictly philosophical inquiry." The court also precludes the defense where, regardless of profit motive, the research was done "in furtherance of the alleged infringer's legitimate business." In the case of a research university like Duke University, the court held that the alleged use was in furtherance of its legitimate business, and thus the defense was inapplicable.</blockquote></i>

Clearly, there is huge scope for inventive lawyers (mathematical trolls?) to bring lawsuits against academics here, which would inevitably have a chilling effect on "pure science".  Far from helping resolve the problems we have today with software patents, extending patentability to the mathematics that underlies programming would simply spread the misery wider, and make the lawyers richer.
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Happy Pi Day</title>
<dc:creator>Joyce Hung</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Math geeks rejoice! It's Pi Day again! Why is the number pi so awesome? Because, as <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H20cKjz-bjw">Mr. Spock</a> once explained, "the value of pi is a transcendental figure without resolution." Here are a few more cool pi-related links.

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<li> <a title="http://www.thesfegotist.com/news/local/2013/february/28/exploratoriums-pi-sky" href="http://bit.ly/XTQYUO">On March 14, 1:59 pm, the Exploratorium in San Francisco (which invented Pi Day in 1988) will be featuring an art installation called "Pi In The Sky."</a> Created by artist ISHKY with the help of a team of artists, designers, and scientists, "Pi In The Sky" will be visible in the sky at more than 10,000 feet over San Francisco. Five synchronized planes equipped with dot matrix technology will <a href="http://press.exploratorium.edu/pi-in-the-sky-%E2%80%93-aerial-tribute-set-for-exploratoriums-25th-annual-pi-day/">skywrite</a> the first 314 numbers of pi, with each number measuring over a quarter-mile in height. [<a href="http://www.thesfegotist.com/news/local/2013/february/28/exploratoriums-pi-sky">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~huberty/math5337/groupe/overview.html" href="http://bit.ly/YO7vWt">How "old" is pi?</a> The ancient Babylonians were able to come up with a close approximation of pi (3.125) around 2000 B.C. [<a href="http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~huberty/math5337/groupe/overview.html">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://okthisisawesome.com/2013/02/21/pi-transcendental-numbers-are-awesome/" href="http://bit.ly/169OPI1">How many digits of pi are required to be able to measure the circumference of the observable universe, with an accuracy of less than the width of a hydrogen atom?</a>  The answer is... 39. [<a href="http://okthisisawesome.com/2013/02/21/pi-transcendental-numbers-are-awesome/">url</a>]</li>

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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:00:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Pi Math</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ National Pie Day is <a href="http://www.piecouncil.org/Events/NationalPieDay/">not</a> actually March 14th (although it really should be, if only to make it more memorable). But here's to the number, not the delicious dessert.

<ul>
 
<li> <a title="http://www.askamathematician.com/2009/11/since-pi-is-infinite-can-i-draw-any-random-number-sequence-and-be-certain-that-it-exists-somewhere-in-the-digits-of-pi/" href="http://bit.ly/WsYFkL">Does pi contain every set of finite number sequences?</a> The answer to that question may not be known, but the first trillion or so digits of pi appear to be statistically random -- with 0-9 appearing with even distributed frequency. [<a href="http://www.askamathematician.com/2009/11/since-pi-is-infinite-can-i-draw-any-random-number-sequence-and-be-certain-that-it-exists-somewhere-in-the-digits-of-pi/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://bellard.org/pi/pi_n2/pi_n2.html" href="http://bit.ly/WsYIgl">It's possible to calculate the nth digit of pi without calculating every previous digit.</a> So the gazillionth digit of pi can be verified, if you really need to know it. [<a href="http://bellard.org/pi/pi_n2/pi_n2.html">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14283270/how-to-determine-whether-my-calculation-of-pi-is-accurate/14283481#14283481" href="http://bit.ly/UvGFr6">If you're thinking about coming up with a new way to calculate pi, you can check your work for the first several trillion digits.</a> Beyond about 10 trillion digits, you're into record breaking territory, and you'll need to adopt some other strategies. [<a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14283270/how-to-determine-whether-my-calculation-of-pi-is-accurate/14283481#14283481">url</a>]</li>

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<title>DailyDirt: Arithmetic Is The Third R?</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ International math tests seem to consistently show that Americans don't have competitive math skills. We can argue that these tests don't measure real-life capabilities, but it might also be nice to see math test scores rise someday. Given the growth of online educational tools, the accessibility of good (and effective) math lessons will hopefully help to improve everyone's math talents. Here are just a few interesting links on the topic of math. 

<ul>

<li> <a title="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=like-math-thank-your-moti" href="http://bit.ly/11gYfkh">A study of German math students suggests that parental pressure and good grades don't provide lasting incentives for kids to learn math skills.</a> It seems obvious that the motivation behind learning would affect how well a student learns, but the conclusion could have some interesting effects on education policy and how to most effectively teach children. [<a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=like-math-thank-your-moti">url</a>]</li>
 
<li> <a title="http://paulgestwicki.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-story-of-equations-squared.html" href="http://bit.ly/VPZoZH">Equations Squared is an online math game that assesses a player's skills as he/she plays -- awarding points for more complex mathematical understanding.</a> The story of how this game was created is interesting, and the game <a href="http://etsgameschallenge.com/submissions/9562-equations-squared">won the grand prize</a> in the ETS Math Assessment Game Challenge. [<a href="http://paulgestwicki.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-story-of-equations-squared.html">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://open.salon.com/blog/annie_keeghan/2012/02/17/afraid_of_your_childs_math_textbook_you_should_be" href="http://bit.ly/10gpufi">Math textbooks are created by a publishing industry which doesn't necessarily care about the quality of education.</a> There are a lot of problems in the US education system, but there may be some creative destruction in store for the textbook industry. [<a href="http://open.salon.com/blog/annie_keeghan/2012/02/17/afraid_of_your_childs_math_textbook_you_should_be">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323374504578219873933502726.html" href="http://on.wsj.com/XlmetF">Adding a nonsensical math equation to your writing can give it a bit more authority.</a> a^n+b^n=c^n QED [<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323374504578219873933502726.html">url</a>]</li>

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<title>Remember When You Couldn't Patent Math? Good Times</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Ah, it really was just recently that we were <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121121/11415521113/40-years-ago-supreme-court-effectively-banned-software-patents-remember-that.shtml">talking about</a> the seminal Supreme Court case, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottschalk_v._Benson" target="_blank">Gottschalk v. Benson</a>, in which the Justices made it clear that you cannot just patent an algorithm that converts numbers:
<blockquote><i>
It is conceded that one may not patent an idea. But in practical effect that would be the result if the formula for converting BCD numerals to pure binary numerals were patented in this case. The mathematical formula involved here has no substantial practical application except in connection with a digital computer, which means that if the judgment below is affirmed, the patent would wholly pre-empt the mathematical formula and in practical effect would be a patent on the algorithm itself.
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I'm reminded of that, after seeing Dealbreaker's headline about how world famous mutual fund investor, Bill Gross, of PIMCO, has <a href="http://dealbreaker.com/2012/12/bill-gross-patents-way-to-count/" target="_blank">patented the methodology for his bond fund</a> -- or, as Dealbreaker correctly points out, he "patented a way to count."  Indeed, the patent in question, <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PALL&#038;p=1&#038;u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=8,306,892.PN.&#038;OS=PN/8,306,892&#038;RS=PN/8,306,892">US Patent 8,306,892</a> is somewhat hideous, describing not much more than the concept of an algorithm that weights regions based on GDP.  The key claim:
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A computer-implemented method of managing a fixed income financial index, the method comprising: storing in a computer memory a regional weight for each of a plurality of regions of the world, each of the regional weights based at least in part on a gross domestic product for the region; storing in a computer memory, for each of the plurality of regions, a category weight for each of a plurality of categories of fixed income financial instruments issued from the region; storing in a computer memory asset data for a universe of fixed income instruments representing each of the plurality of categories of instruments in each of the plurality of regions, the fixed income instruments comprising one or more of the following: (i) fixed income securities, (ii) fixed income derivatives, or (iii) fixed income forwards; programmatically allocating, via execution of instructions by one or more computer processors, one or more constituent instruments from the universe of fixed income instruments to each of the plurality of categories in each of the plurality of regions; programmatically determining a constituent weight for each of the constituents allocated to each of the plurality of categories in each of the plurality of regions; programmatically calculating a subindex for each of the plurality of categories in each of the plurality of regions, each subindex based at least in part on the allocated constituents and the respective constituent weights, wherein the constituent weights for a first subindex comprise market capitalization weights and the constituent weights for a second subindex comprise gross-domestic product weights; and programmatically transforming the subindices, the category weights, and the regional weights into a value for the financial index. 
</i></blockquote>
It doesn't take a patent specialist to figure out that this is basically patenting a spreadsheet for weighting countries on a few different factors.  It seems to be the <i>exact</i> kind of thing that was disallowed by the Supreme Court under Gottschalk v. Benson.  And yet, the USPTO waved it right on through.  Kinda makes you wonder what the hell patent examiner Samica L. Norman was thinking in approving such a ridiculous patent.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121205/02440521234/remember-when-you-couldnt-patent-math-good-times.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121205/02440521234/remember-when-you-couldnt-patent-math-good-times.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121205/02440521234/remember-when-you-couldnt-patent-math-good-times.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>DailyDirt: Doing Math In Your Head</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Math might not be the easiest subject for some students, but there might be different ways of teaching it that could make it more tolerable for kids. The more we learn about how our brains process math problems, the better we can teach ourselves how to tackle math education. There's a lot of concern over how Americans can compete in a global economy if our kids don't have some pretty basic math skills. Maybe some of these findings will help students pick up some much needed math skills.

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<li> <a title="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/2012/oct/29/mathematics" href="http://bit.ly/TFpduq">Learning how to use an abacus could actually be useful.</a> Japanese students have demonstrated that using a mental image of an abacus (no actual abacus needed) can help them perform some incredibly fast mental calculations. [<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/2012/oct/29/mathematics">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/everybody-is-stupid-except-you/201211/us-math-achievement-how-bad-is-it" href="http://bit.ly/TEe7rZ">American kids don't do well on international math tests, but the bright side is that we're slowly learning what might be the best remedies.</a> Understanding *why* kids don't do well on math tests is an important part of coming up with a solution, but looking at the bad test results is pretty scary.... [<a href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/everybody-is-stupid-except-you/201211/us-math-achievement-how-bad-is-it">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://healthland.time.com/2012/11/21/bedtime-math-a-problem-a-day-keeps-fear-of-arithmetic-away/" href="http://ti.me/TEdXRh">Doing a few algebraic word problems before bedtime might help alleviate some math fears in children.</a> Or they could inspire math-related nightmares that haunt kids like Freddie Krueger. You decide. [<a href="http://healthland.time.com/2012/11/21/bedtime-math-a-problem-a-day-keeps-fear-of-arithmetic-away/">url</a>]</li>

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<title>DailyDirt: Help For The Mathophobic</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Plenty of students in school don't like math. There's not much room to argue for points when grade school arithmetic is either wrong or right. With a better understanding of how our brains work, we might be able to devise some ways to make math more pleasant for everyone. At the very least, we can remind people to always show their work.

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<li> <a title="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57544371-71/how-math-causes-physical-pain/" href="http://cnet.co/Y0p4Y4">Some people experience physical pain when presented with difficult math problems, but it's not doing the math itself that hurts -- it's the anticipation of doing the math.</a> Fortunately, math anxiety can be overcome with various techniques, just like other phobias. [<a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57544371-71/how-math-causes-physical-pain/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/how-to-succeed-at-math-without-really-trying-use-rosemary-oil/255077/" href="http://bit.ly/10oMYv7">Correlation isn't causation, folks, but a small study showed that 20 people did better at some math problems while smelling rosemary oil.</a> These researchers should probably sniff some of their aromatherapy oils while doing the statistical analysis of this work.... [<a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/how-to-succeed-at-math-without-really-trying-use-rosemary-oil/255077/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120829103516.htm" href="http://bit.ly/T26KHO">Math ability can be predicted by fMRI scans that measure the strength of communication between the left and right hemispheres in the brain.</a> If there is a causal link, impaired math abilities could be improved with training tasks aimed at coordinating brain activity. [<a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120829103516.htm">url</a>]</li>

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<title>DailyDirt: More Advanced Weapons</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Technology has oftentimes advanced the weapons of war -- creating new ways to destroy things on increasingly larger scales. But as our ability to destroy has become ridiculously big, it's time to start looking for more efficient methods. Here are just a few military projects that are looking to improve targeted destruction.

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<li> <a title="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/dial-a-bullet/" href="http://bit.ly/RNJdeL">Pick your ammunition, any ammunition you want... for an automatic gun that can shoot hundreds of rounds per minute.</a> The US Army hasn't perfected such a weapon just yet, but it's looking for proposals that could make more versatile guns possible. [<a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/dial-a-bullet/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/342322/title/Afghanistan_on_240_incidents_a_week" href="http://bit.ly/UsiqsP">Math has become an important aspect of all kinds of military weapons -- without math, we wouldn't be able to aim projectiles very effectively over long distances.</a> Now, more and more computer simulations are being used to develop defenses and to help predict where enemies might attack. Would you like to play a game of thermonuclear war? [<a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/342322/title/Afghanistan_on_240_incidents_a_week">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/03/china-testing-ballistic-missile-carrier-killer/" href="http://bit.ly/SW3vFk">Anti-aircraft-carrier missiles could take out about 4 acres of naval runways on the open seas -- in one shot.</a> China has been developing anti-ship ballistic missiles (ASBMs) for years, and they're probably operational by now. [<a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/03/china-testing-ballistic-missile-carrier-killer/">url</a>]</li>


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<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Logarithmic Thinking Is Natural</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Most of us have been taught to understand math-related topics in a linear way, but that might not be the way our brains are hard-wired. Kids actually tend to have an innate number scale that is logarithmic, so even though they know how to count to ten (or even twenty), they'll actually think more along the lines of one, many, lots of many's, and then OMG so many that's like infinity. Here are just a few links on logarithmic thinking to ponder.

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<li> <a title="http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/12/04/one-of-our-readers-emailed/" href="http://bit.ly/Pp3wCb">Ask second graders to map out a few numbers on a blank line from 1 to 1,000 -- and you'll see that 7yo kids tend to space out the numbers in a logarithmic pattern.</a> Fourth graders won't make the same number line map as these second graders, and it's apparently not too hard to un-learn logarithmic scales since many adults don't remember what a log scale graph is. [<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/12/04/one-of-our-readers-emailed/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.radiolab.org/2009/nov/30/innate-numbers/" href="http://wny.cc/SgX6n5">RadioLab has a nice podcast about how kids learn their numbers, switching from logarithmic thinking to more linear thinking.</a> Young kids and even infants notice large changes (such as when quantities double), but they're not so good at exact amounts and small differences. [<a href="http://www.radiolab.org/2009/nov/30/innate-numbers/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2610411/" href="http://1.usa.gov/TehWnP">It's not just little kids. Some cultures think in logarithmic scales -- such as an Amazonian indigene group, the Mundurucu.</a> Actually, logarithmic thinking may lie dormant in all of us, whenever we estimate quantities or deal with extremely large numbers. [<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2610411/">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/thinking-logarithmically-1005.html" href="http://bit.ly/Rj7Nnz">What number is halfway between 1 and 9?</a> Most formally educated adults say 5, but another answer (from kids) is 3. [<a href="http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/thinking-logarithmically-1005.html">url</a>]</li>

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<title>The Math Says HBO Shouldn't Go Direct, But They Left Innovation Out Of The Equation</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's been plenty of talk about HBO and its <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/10505618869/game-thrones-track-to-be-most-pirated-show-2012-pirates-still-asking-hbo-legitimate-options.shtml">ongoing refusal</a> to offer a standalone internet offering for its content (unless you happen to live in the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120902/20364620255/hbo-hooks-up-nordic-cord-cutters-offers-standalone-streaming-service.shtml">lovely Nordic region</a>).  A few months ago, this discussion took something of a viral turn with the website <a href="http://takemymoneyhbo.com/" target="_blank">TakeMyMoneyHBO.com</a>, which tried to calculate how much people would pay for standalone internet/mobile access to HBO content -- which suggested people would be willing to pay an average of about $12 per month.  Now, we can all take online internet surveys with a pretty big grain of salt, but there clearly is a lot of interest in people getting such a service.  The straight math says that at $12, it would be a good deal for HBO, which is rumored to actually get about $7 or $8 per subscriber via cable and satellite.  But... as Ryan Lawler at TechCrunch wrote at the time, <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/05/hbo-go-without-hbo/" target="_blank">it's not that straightforward</a>, and you can show how the math doesn't quite add up:
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More importantly, it wouldn&#8217;t include the cost of sales, marketing, and support &#8212; and this is where HBO would really get screwed. Going direct to online customers by pitching HBO GO over-the-top would mean losing the support of its cable, satellite, and IPTV distributors. And since the Comcasts and the Time Warner Cables of the world are the top marketing channel for premium networks like HBO, it would be nearly impossible for HBO to make up for the loss of the cable provider&#8217;s marketing team or promotions.
<br /><br />
Think about it: Every time someone signs up for cable or satellite service, one of the inevitable perks is a free six- or 12-month subscription to HBO. And those free subscriptions are rarely, if ever, cancelled once the trial period ends.
</i></blockquote>
Lawler insists the math doesn't add up because without that marketing push, the number of subscribers would be much lower.  HBO claimed that <a href="https://twitter.com/HBO/status/210390531623227392" target="_blank">Lawler's math was right</a>.  And it may be.  For now.  But that's really dangerous thinking.
<br /><br />
We've pointed out before that it's quite tempting for legacy players to think that they can wait out disruptive innovation.  They talk about how the new products and services aren't good enough or don't make enough money to bother getting into that space.  Often they'll directly talk about how the new services don't make the same amount of revenue as the old ones (or they'll make some crack about "dollars into dimes.")  And, of course, they insist that <i>when the money is there</i> they'll make the switch.  But, if you understand anything about the history of disruptive innovation, you know that if you wait until that point, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120612/01404419282/disruptive-innovation-is-not-orderly-process.shtml">you're already behind</a>.  Someone else has already taken over that market, and your "switch" is often seen as way too little, way too late (not to mention that it's often accompanied by massive bungling, as the slow entrance also means not really understanding enough about how that market works, while all your competitors spent all that time perfecting their solutions).
<br /><br />
MG Siegler has a great post talking about this very concept as it relates to HBO, responding to Lawler (again) and his recent interview of an HBO exec during a panel at TechCrunch Disrupt.  Once again, HBO insisted that Lawler was right and that "the math didn't make sense."  But Siegler points out, correctly, that <a href="http://massivegreatness.com/fuck-math" target="_blank"><b>innovation beats math every single time</b></a>.  Siegler basically highlights the key point of Clayton Christensen's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091116/2307256958.shtml">Innovator's Dilemma</a>: it's really really tough for legacy players to eat their own cash cows and bet on something new.  He points to another excellent article, by Farhad Manjoo at Slate, about how <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/design/2012/09/iphone_design_documents_from_the_samsung_trial_reveal_more_than_ever_about_apple_s_secretive_design_process_.single.html" target="_blank">Apple actually does this really well</a>, specifically how it totally cannibalized its cash-cow iPods with the iPhone:
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Put it all together and you get remarkable story about a device that, under the normal rules of business, should not have been invented. Given the popularity of the iPod and its centrality to Apple&#8217;s bottom line, Apple should have been the last company on the planet to try to build something whose explicit purpose was to kill music players. Yet Apple&#8217;s inner circle knew that one day, a phone maker would solve the interface problem, creating a universal device that could make calls, play music and videos, and do everything else, too&#8212;a device that would eat the iPod&#8217;s lunch. Apple&#8217;s only chance at staving off that future was to invent the iPod killer itself. More than this simple business calculation, though, Apple&#8217;s brass saw the phone as an opportunity for real innovation.
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That, in a nuthsell, is what most companies fail to do.  It's why Clayton Christensen's book sells so well, even though very, very few companies have any idea how to do what Apple did and "eat its own."  But the point is there.  If you focus on "the math," you're going to miss the market and be way, way too late.  Back to Siegler:
<blockquote><i>
Moore's statement about HBO is correct. The math is not in favor of selling HBO access directly to consumers. But if we're just thinking about this from a pure product perspective, I don&#8217;t think anyone would disagree that this is what we all want. HBO is choosing not to build the service we will love, <b>they're choosing the short-term money. The safe bet. The math.</b>
<br /><br />
But if they don&#8217;t diverge from this path, it will lead to their demise. Innovation always beats math, eventually. That, you can take to the bank.
</i></blockquote>
He's right.  And the more you look at the economics of innovation, the easier it is to understand why innovation always beats math.  It's because "the math" that people do is of a static world, for the most part.  They use past performance and metrics built on a different market.  They don't understand how quickly a new market grows, and how much larger its overall potential is.  And that's because we have difficulty in mentally dealing with non-zero sum markets, preferring to think that it's a one-for-one switch.  But, it's not.  Innovation expands markets in new and unexpected ways, often quite rapidly (though also, deceptively slowly at first, because the growth is often in a tangential market that people don't even recognize).
<br /><br />
So they come up with spreadsheets and "models" that try to predict when the math says it's time to switch.  And all of that time <i>they're not innovating</i>.  But since the disruption is brewing in a much faster manner, and in a different spot than they really think it is, the time to switch is usually <i>as soon as you realize the innovation is happening,</i> not when the spreadsheet tells you to.  It's not just about choosing "the safe bet" vs "the service we love."  It's about how disruptive innovation guarantees that those who don't build for the markets of tomorrow, don't really have much of a market tomorrow.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120912/03400020357/math-says-hbo-shouldnt-go-direct-they-left-innovation-out-equation.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120912/03400020357/math-says-hbo-shouldnt-go-direct-they-left-innovation-out-equation.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120912/03400020357/math-says-hbo-shouldnt-go-direct-they-left-innovation-out-equation.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Would US Education Be Better If We Replaced Algebra Requirements With Stats &#038; Logic?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ By now you may have heard about the NY Times article from over the weekend in which political science professor Andrew Hacker makes the somewhat contrarian suggestion that the US education system would function much better <a href="http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/is-algebra-necessary.xml" target="_blank">if we ditched algebra requirements</a>.  The whole article is worth reading, but the basic gist of it is that many people who end up dropping out of school do so in part because of trouble they have in getting past basic algebra.  It's a key stumbling block.
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California's two university systems, for instance, consider applications only from students who have taken three years of mathematics and in that way exclude many applicants who might excel in fields like art or history. Community college students face an equally prohibitive mathematics wall. A study of two-year schools found that fewer than a quarter of their entrants passed the algebra classes they were required to take.
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"There are students taking these courses three, four, five times," says Barbara Bonham of Appalachian State University. While some ultimately pass, she adds, "many drop out."
<br /><br />
Another dropout statistic should cause equal chagrin. Of all who embark on higher education, only 58 percent end up with bachelor's degrees. The main impediment to graduation: freshman math. The City University of New York, where I have taught since 1971, found that 57 percent of its students didn't pass its mandated algebra course. The depressing conclusion of a faculty report: "failing math at all levels affects retention more than any other academic factor." A national sample of transcripts found mathematics had twice as many F's and D's compared as other subjects.
</i></blockquote>
I will admit that my initial reaction to this article was to scoff and think that it's ridiculous.  Understanding basic algebra, to me, seems fundamental to understand a variety of other important things -- including some forms of logic and statistics.  So, I wondered how dropping algebra as a requirement might make those already lacking fields even worse.
<br /><br />
However, Hacker's piece actually suggests something of a solution: potentially replacing algebra <i>with a form of statistics</i>, which is rarely a required course.
<blockquote><i>
Instead of investing so much of our academic energy in a subject that blocks further attainment for much of our population, I propose that we start thinking about alternatives. Thus mathematics teachers at every level could create exciting courses in what I call "citizen statistics." This would not be a backdoor version of algebra, as in the Advanced Placement syllabus. Nor would it focus on equations used by scholars when they write for one another. Instead, it would familiarize students with the kinds of numbers that describe and delineate our personal and public lives.
<br /><br />
It could, for example, teach students how the Consumer Price Index is computed, what is included and how each item in the index is weighted - and include discussion about which items should be included and what weights they should be given.
</i></blockquote>
I will admit to being unsure how such a class will work <i>without</i> a basic underpinning in algebra.  However, <i>conceptually</i>, what Hacker is saying makes sense.  Focusing on the formulaic side of algebra isn't particularly practical for many people.  I could see how classes that focus on practical mathematical skills around statistics <i>and</i> logic, could actually be a lot more useful.  And while he says these don't need to be "backdoor" algebra classes, I'm not so sure that's a bad thing.  Having people understand the basics of algebra by putting them in realistic situations they understand, and showing how to apply such things in a useful manner doesn't seem like such a bad idea...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120730/03153719874/would-us-education-be-better-if-we-replaced-algebra-requirements-with-stats-logic.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120730/03153719874/would-us-education-be-better-if-we-replaced-algebra-requirements-with-stats-logic.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120730/03153719874/would-us-education-be-better-if-we-replaced-algebra-requirements-with-stats-logic.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>DailyDirt: Robot Scientists</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ People are usually pretty quick to admit that artificial intelligence programs are better than most humans at solving a lot of math problems. Human scientists have generally been needed to interpret data and make conclusions, but AI software could be catching up with scientists by coming up with their own hypotheses and conclusions. Here are just a few examples of programs that might be writing up their own PhD dissertations someday.  
<ul>
<li> <a title="http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/18/weekinreview/ideas-trends-mathematicians-meet-computerized-ideas.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm" href="http://nyti.ms/yae1WJ">Robot mathematicians like Graffiti have been around for a very long time, generating far more interesting conjectures than any human could.</a> Interesting mathematical conjectures should be surprising, not too closely related to an existing conjecture, and not too specific. [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/18/weekinreview/ideas-trends-mathematicians-meet-computerized-ideas.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2011/10/robot-biologist/" href="http://bit.ly/y1Z6w8">Software dubbed Eureqa is analyzing (without help from humans) experimental data from biological systems to derive mathematical models for processes like glycolysis -- and could potentially find new biological discoveries.</a> And I'm sure we'll see stories of robots found cheating by plagiarizing from Wikipedia soon. [<a href="http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2011/10/robot-biologist/">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/robotscientist/" href="http://bit.ly/xnffVn">Adam is the first automated scientist -- successfully developing a hypothesis, performing experiments, refining its hypothesis into a novel discovery.</a> Adam found three yeast genes that coded for an orphan enzyme. [<a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/robotscientist/">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/04/robot-scientist-language/" href="http://bit.ly/zRlF9H">A newer version of Adam, called Eve, is sifting through some of Adam's data and looking to find her own discoveries about yeast genetics.</a> Unfortunately, some intellectual property issues are delaying some of Adam and Eve's latest publications. [<a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/04/robot-scientist-language/">url</a>]</li>
<li><b>To discover more interesting robot-related content, <a title="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:29" href="http://bit.ly/h0iGmR">check out what's currently floating around the StumbleUpon universe.</a></b> [<a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:29">url</a>]  <a title="what's this?" href="#" class="whatsthis help_ddstumble">&nbsp;</a>
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<pubDate>Wed, 7 Sep 2011 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Back To School Time...</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ It's that time of year again -- time for kids in the US to go back to school after a summer break. There are plenty of folks who argue that summer breaks are unnecessary and waste valuable teaching time. There also seems to be no end of suggestions on how to fix the US education system. Here are just a few more opinions about improving educational systems.
<ul>
<li> <a title="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/opinion/how-to-fix-our-math-education.html" href="http://nyti.ms/qMndfJ">Would students be better served by taking "applied math" classes instead of pre-algebra, algebra, pre-calculus and calculus?</a> Mothers, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys, engineers or scientists... [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/opinion/how-to-fix-our-math-education.html">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://gigaom.com/2011/08/29/eric-schmidt-challenges-teachers-get-with-the-program/" href="http://bit.ly/psq23a">Google's Eric Schmidt admonishes British teachers for teaching students how to use Microsoft applications -- instead of programming.</a> Out of spite, how about we teach kids how to use Microsoft Visual C++? [<a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/08/29/eric-schmidt-challenges-teachers-get-with-the-program/">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://mobile.salon.com/life/feature/2011/08/29/confessions_of_a_bad_teacher" href="http://bit.ly/qZva6E">Teachers have a hard job in NYC... and it doesn't help when it's so easy for new teachers to be dismissed as bad teachers.</a> But it's not easy to grade teachers, either. [<a href="http://mobile.salon.com/life/feature/2011/08/29/confessions_of_a_bad_teacher">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/opinion/blow-an-ode-to-teachers.html" href="http://nyti.ms/nC124a">Teaching as a career doesn't seem to be a highly-regarded profession, according to several polls.</a> But it's not clear how the trend of diminishing status for teaching professionals can be reversed. [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/opinion/blow-an-ode-to-teachers.html">url</a>]</li>
<li><b>To discover more interesting education-related content, <a title="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:223" href="http://bit.ly/gPWAV6">check out what's currently floating around the StumbleUpon universe.</a></b> [<a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:Technology">url</a>]  <a title="what's this?" href="#" class="whatsthis help_ddstumble">&nbsp;</a>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Math Is Hard</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Several years ago, a president of Harvard resigned -- due, in part, to expressing his opinion that there are innate differences between men and women that contribute to fewer women in math/science professions. Since then, there have been a few studies on how people deal with math. Here are just a few quick links.
<ul>
<li> <a title="http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=1c1234dc-9d97-4b53-89ea-7ba21d583b00" href="http://bit.ly/pISD9d">Barbie was just stating an opinion, too: math is hard.</a> But a study shows that girls are performing just as well as boys in math... [<a href="http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=1c1234dc-9d97-4b53-89ea-7ba21d583b00">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://healthland.time.com/2011/08/11/study-people-may-be-born-good-or-bad-at-math/" href="http://ti.me/pRoiZo">Some psychologists think people have an innate skill at math from birth.</a> But that doesn't mean that kids who are bad at math should give up! [<a href="http://healthland.time.com/2011/08/11/study-people-may-be-born-good-or-bad-at-math/">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/07/01/137527742/china-s-unnatural-math-advantage-their-words" href="http://n.pr/nuVGP0">Chinese speakers tend to memorize numbers more easily because numbers in Chinese are simpler.</a> If English speakers have a harder time because their numbers are weird, try French -- where ninety-nine is <i>quatre-vingt-dix-neuf</i> (roughly "four*twenty+ten+nine"). [<a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/07/01/137527742/china-s-unnatural-math-advantage-their-words">url</a>]</li>
<li><b>To discover more interesting education-related content, <a title="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:223" href="http://bit.ly/gPWAV6">check out what's currently floating around the StumbleUpon universe.</a></b> [<a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/stumble/topic:Technology">url</a>]  <a title="what's this?" href="#" class="whatsthis help_ddstumble">&nbsp;</a>
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</ul> 

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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 04:15:37 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Why The NY Times Paywall Business Model Is Doomed to Fail (Numbers)</title>
<dc:creator>Bas Grasmayer</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p><img align="right" src="http://i.imgur.com/Md6HU.png" width="200" />Not considering technical details (every wall can be brought down), even by its own business model the New York Times' paywall is doomed to fail.</p>
<p>Last Friday's Financial Times had some <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e6023df0-509d-11e0-9e89-00144feab49a,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fe6023df0-509d-11e0-9e89-00144feab49a.html&#038;_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ft.com%2Fsearch%3FqueryText%3Dpaywall%26ftsearchType%3Dtype_news">interesting numbers</a>.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Fact 1: </strong>According to analysts, the New York Times <i>only</i> needs to convert 1 to 10 per cent of the online visitors in order for the model to pay off.</li>
<li><strong>Fact 2:</strong> NY Times chief executive Janet Robinson has stated that they only expect about 15 per cent of visitors to encounter the paywall, since visitors can read 20 articles per month for free.</li>
<li><strong>Fact 3:</strong> Full website access and the mobile app are bundled for $15 per month. For the iPad app + web you pay $20 per month. $35 for all three.</li>
<li><strong>Fact 4: </strong>One analyst argues that the NY Times could earn $66m per year if it converted just 1 per cent of the visitors. This would mean they go from paying nothing, to paying (at least) $195 a year.</li>
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<p>There is no way these numbers add up. Consider fact 1 and fact 2. First of all <i>only</i> 1 per cent might actually not be all that easy, let alone 10 per cent. Secondly, the 1 per cent is misleading, as they'll actually have to convert 1 to 10 out of every 15 visitors to encounter the paywall. So they actually have to convert 6 to 66 (!) per cent.</p>
<p>Next, the pricing might be too high. $15 per month is a lot for consumers who are not used to pay for news online, especially since there's no additional value <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/10393913530/it-took-ny-times-14-months-40-million-dollars-to-build-worlds-stupidest-paywall.shtml">as Mike commented last week</a>. I'm not saying nobody will pay, but dragging in the 6 to 66 per cent of the visitors will be challenging, to say the least.</p>
<p>I cannot imagine this paywall to be successful. They can probably kiss the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110317/10393913530/it-took-ny-times-14-months-40-million-dollars-to-build-worlds-stupidest-paywall.shtml">$40m investment</a> in the development goodbye.</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110320/05135413565/why-ny-times-paywall-business-model-is-doomed-to-fail-numbers.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110320/05135413565/why-ny-times-paywall-business-model-is-doomed-to-fail-numbers.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110320/05135413565/why-ny-times-paywall-business-model-is-doomed-to-fail-numbers.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:24:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>The Changing Way That Math Is Taught To Children</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ NPR has a fascinating story about how <a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/03/05/134277079/the-way-you-learned-math-is-so-old-school?ps=cprs" target="_blank">the methods for teaching basic mathematics have been changing</a> in schools.  For example, they show the following comparison for teaching multiplication:
<blockquote><i>
<b>The Way We Used To Multiply</b>
<br /><br />
The old way to multiply required a student to add the products of 36 x 4 and 36 x 2. The trick is to add that 0 at the end of the second product.
<center>
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/OtlN4.jpg" />
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<b>How Kids Learn To Multiply Now</b>
<br /><br />
These days, students add four products to get the answer.
<center>
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/EkGPU.jpg" />
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This fascinates me because I was definitely taught that first method as a kid, but what really gets me is that I ended up teaching myself the second method, because it seemed like a fun trick that made it easier to multiply larger numbers in my head (shocking news: I was a bit of a nerd).  But once I had taught myself the latter method, I could never figure out why that wasn't more common.  Apparently, I was just ahead of my time.
<br /><br />
The other interesting thing that hit me was the article's explanation for why things have shifted:
<blockquote><i>
"That's largely to reflect the different needs of society," he says. "No one ever in their real life anymore needs to -- and in most cases never does -- do the calculations themselves."
<br /><br />
Computers do arithmetic for us, Devlin says, but making computers do the things we want them to do requires algebraic thinking. For instance, take a computer spreadsheet. The computer does all the calculations for you automatically. But you have to write the macros that tell it what calculations to do -- and that is algebraic thinking.
<br /><br />
"You cannot become good at algebra without a mastery of arithmetic," Devlin says, "but arithmetic itself is no longer the ultimate goal." Thus the emphasis in teaching mathematics today is on getting people to be sophisticated, algebraic thinkers.
</i></blockquote>
So for all the times kids claim that they shouldn't need to learn mathematics because they'll never need aspects of it in real life, it's nice to see that the education system is actually adapting to make the <i>process</i> of how you think about math much more practical in today's world.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110310/03354413427/changing-way-that-math-is-taught-to-children.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110310/03354413427/changing-way-that-math-is-taught-to-children.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110310/03354413427/changing-way-that-math-is-taught-to-children.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:58:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Man Claims Copyright On Mental Math Trick</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's a wonderful book by Ben Klemens called <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=PQnCl7fKf-4C&#038;dq=math+you+can%27t+use&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bn&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=C8-BSseTNZLuMaaFlaML&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=4#v=onepage&#038;q=&#038;f=false" target="_new"><i>Math You Can't Use</i></a> about how the growing encroachment of intellectual property laws on things like basic algorithms and software are locking up math.  However, it appears that one guy is trying to take it to an extreme.  Pegr alerts us to a story of a guy who claims to have <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,538840,00.html?test=latestnews" target="_new">obtained a copyright on a method for multiplying any two numbers in your head</a>, and he's willing to sell you the trick for $33.  Of course, there are all sorts of mental multiplication tricks out there (and a quick search of the web will teach you most of them, if you're unfamiliar with them).  There aren't many details on the supposed "copyright" on this trick, so it's not clear if he actually registered the copyright or just thinks he has the copyright, but it will be fascinating to see if he stops anyone else from discussing the method, should it actually be new.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090811/1310275846.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090811/1310275846.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090811/1310275846.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Google Scientists Successfully Split The Bill</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <b>theodp</b> writes <i>&quot;Yes Virginia, there is a Techdirt reader at Google. It took a little public teasing, but Google has quietly fixed the <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20080725/0154041790.shtml">formula bugs in its YouTube-hyped Shared House Expenses spreadsheet template</a>, which can now correctly split roommates' bills three ways (<a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/2686025565_08a0132043_o.jpg">before</a> and <a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/2715565505_6cf850f087_o.jpg">after</a>). And so ends another episode of <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/52324">life imitating The Onion</a>.&quot;</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080803/172041.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080803/172041.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080803/172041.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Showcased Google Docs Spreadsheet Does Not Compute</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <b>theodp</b> writes <i>"Recently, <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/templates-bring-docs-to-life.html">Google debuted its new Google Docs Template Gallery</a>, showcasing a <a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pyU3xkckhpI2UXBZK_PEfXA&#038;hl=en_US">Shared House Expenses spreadsheet</a> template in a <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=dSGkzDgW1fA">pretty elaborate YouTube Video</a> as an example of 'tools that just work.' Only problem is, the popular five-star template still doesn't work correctly. Thanks to its doesn't-handle-zero-correctly bugs, the spreadsheet <a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/2694188317_b495f216ca_o.jpg">fails to always divide expenses properly</a>, allowing one roommate to get away with contributing far less than his "Fare [sic] Share." So did Google release the spreadsheet to gazillions of users without bothering to verify it worked, or did all those Googlers fail to recognize some pretty obvious mistakes?"</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080725/0154041790.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080725/0154041790.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080725/0154041790.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Verizon Wireless Apparently Still Can't Train Its Sales People In Basic Math</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ You may recall the story from last year about Verizon Wireless' <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20070110/094524.shtml">dubious math skills</a>.  What kicked off the story was a guy traveling to Canada with a Verizon Wireless EVDO account.  He had asked how much the roaming charges would be, and was told 0.002 <i>cents</i> per kilobyte -- which is quite reasonable.  However, when he got his next bill, it was quite a lot bigger than he expected.  That's because Verizon Wireless actually charges 0.002 <i>dollars</i> per kilobyte.  When confronted on this, hilarity (or frustration, depending on your point of view) ensued.  Even when being explained the difference in dollars and cents clearly, Verizon Wireless customer service reps <a href="http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-from-cents.html">continued to insist</a> that 0.002 cents per kilobyte is the same thing as 0.002 dollars per kilobyte.  The publicity backlash convinced Verizon Wireless to refund the guy's money (though still demand he not use their logo on his blog about the story).  Either way, you would think that this widely talked about event would have Verizon Wireless careful to train their customer service reps on the difference between dollars and cents.  Not so, apparently.
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<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizons-Dubious-Math-Skills-89445">Broadband Reports</a> points us to a guy who clearly has way too much free time, who decided to check up on Verizon Wireless, <a href="http://www.eyelesswriter.com/articles.php/verizonrates">calling the company 56 times</a> to ask about two separate data rates.  Out of 56 customer service reps he spoke to, a grand total of <i>one</i> gave him the correct info on both questions.  52% answered both questions incorrectly.  All in all, he received 22 unique answers, with many underquoting the actual rate by a factor of 100.  However, as he noted, that didn't stop nearly all of them from immediately then offering him a two-year contract -- which you could claim was sold to him with false data about what he'd be paying.  He put together a nice video to highlight some of the incorrect statements from Verizon Wireless CSRs:
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So, is it reasonable to ask when Verizon Wireless is going to start teaching its customer service reps math?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071114/115632.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071114/115632.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071114/115632.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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