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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:25:01 PST</pubDate>
<title>Buy Your Kindle At Waterstones? You're Now Locked Into One Screensaver... The Waterstones Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Tim Cushing</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There's no better way to treat your paying customers than by <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121127/14455221158/game-maker-studio-drm-misfires-permanently-replaces-created-game-resources-with-pirate-symbols.shtml" target="_blank">taking away</a> some functionality. Most people would consider the previous statement to be completely full of shit, but when you look at it from the perspective of a proud bookstore chain that seemingly adores its own tasteful logo, it all begins to... Nope. It's not working. The thought process involved in the following debacle seems to have <a href="http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2012/12/06/waterstones-thinks-customers-are-too-stupid-to-remember-where-they-bought-a-kindle-adds-advert-to-remind-them/#.UMEnM4PAd8E" target="_blank">short circuited somewhere between the marketing team and the IT squad, resulting in this bit of branding stupidity</a>.
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<i>Remember how Waterstones was going to sell the Kindle and take a sales commission on the hardware and any ebooks bought from that device? Apparently they decided that the subtle but positive relationship of simply making money off the Kindle wasn't good enough; now they've turned the Kindles they sell into billboards.</i><br />
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<i>The Kindles sold by Waterstones got a firmware update in early November. This update wasn't rolled out to all the Kindles, and for good reason. According to a couple different users (this story has also been confirmed by Waterstones) the only change in the update was a new screensaver.</i><br />
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<i>I have not yet seen it myself, but the Kindle owners are reporting that all the screensavers have been replaced by a Waterstones logo. Furthermore, there's no way to disable or replace that screensaver, so every time these Kindle owners pick up their device they will be reminded where they purchased it.</i></blockquote>
Advertising on the Kindle is nothing new. The ad-supported version is available at a discount if the buyer's willing to put up with being advertised at in exchange for a price break. But, as The Digital Reader points out, Waterstones-branded Kindles aren't discounted.<br />
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Instead, as thanks for purchasing a portable Amazon ecosystem from a brick-and-mortar, Waterstones' customers are now locked into a single screensaver that will constantly remind them who they need to contact for a full refund... which, unbelievably, Waterstones is actually offering.
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<i>Thank you for your email regarding your Kindle Paperwhite from Waterstones.</i><br />
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<i>I am sorry you are disappointed by the addition of a Waterstones screensaver after the recent software update to Kindle. It is our view that this screensaver does not constitute advertising and differs substantially to the advertising-supported Kindles available to the US market. The Waterstones screensaver is a non-dynamic, static image that will change infrequently and not advertise any specific product, offer or website.</i><br />
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<i><b>It is not possible to remove the Waterstones screensaver to replace it with the former Amazon screensaver</b>. We apologise that this change was made without consultation, and hope it does not detract from or alter your reading experience. However, if you feel it does, please let us know and we will arrange for the return of the device and a full refund.</i><br />
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<i>I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.</i><br />
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<i>Yours sincerely,</i><br />
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<i>**********<br />
Customer Service Team<br />
Waterstones.com</i></blockquote>
This should do some serious damage to what was already a rather sketchy hookup. Back in September, Waterstones' CEO James Daunt made the following <a href="http://paidcontent.org/2012/09/12/waterstones-ceo-amazon-partnership-great-except-for-the-bear-traps/" target="_blank">ostensibly cheerful statement announcing its partnership with Amazon</a>.
<blockquote>
<i>"There are substantial difficulties for us around working with our major competitor," Daunt said at the Independent Publishers Guild Digital Quarterly Meeting on Tuesday, according to The Bookseller. "But we think we have an agreement which protects some of the most significant bear traps that sit there, and there are some major upsides for us."</i></blockquote>
Notably, Daunt didn't say that the agreement protects <i>Waterstones</i> from "significant bear traps." Instead, his Freudian slippage states that the traps <i>themselves</i> will be unharmed, even if, as it appears, Waterstones has to trigger the traps on its own.<br />
<br />
The deal was never advantageous, what with Waterstones making the most money when purchasers bought ebooks using its <i>in-store wifi network</i>. It's hard to believe this strategy of getting customers into the physical store in hopes that they&#39;d spend part of the time shopping on their Kindles has paid off. Perhaps the always-on "W" is meant to remind customers where they purchased their Kindles and why not go have a look around the bookstore a bit then.<br />
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On the plus side, Waterstones customers were <strike>threatened with</strike> <strike>warned about</strike> promised some additional bonuses for their branded Kindles during this rollout announcement:
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<i>At yesterday's IPG event, Daunt revealed a few more details about Waterstones' Amazon partnership. "<b>Waterstones-specific Kindle screensavers</b>, bestseller lists and a Read For Free offer are among the plans," The Bookseller reports.</i></blockquote>
That's a pretty frickin' specific screensaver, Daunt. Shame it changes so "infrequently" as to be completely undetectable.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121206/16014421285/buy-your-kindle-waterstones-youre-now-locked-into-one-screensaver-waterstones-logo.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121206/16014421285/buy-your-kindle-waterstones-youre-now-locked-into-one-screensaver-waterstones-logo.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121206/16014421285/buy-your-kindle-waterstones-youre-now-locked-into-one-screensaver-waterstones-logo.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:07:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Not Wise: French T-Shirt Company Tries To Trademark Anonymous Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Via <a href="https://twitter.com/Asher_Wolf/status/229937466080120832" target="_blank">Asher Wolf</a>, we learn that a French company by the name of Early Flicker, who appears to focus on <a href="http://stores.ebay.fr/Early-Flicker" target="_blank">making and selling</a> pop-culture referencing t-shirts, has <a href="http://bases-marques.inpi.fr/Typo3_INPI_Marques/getPdf?idObjet=3897981_FMARK-1,FMARK-2" target="_blank">applied for a trademark on Anonymous' logo and slogan</a> (pdf and embedded below).  
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This does not seem wise.
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If you look around, there are others selling Anonymous apparel, but trying to trademark the logo, and limit its use by others isn't just playing with fire, it's directly taunting a large group of people with weapons that shoot fire... and who have little hesitation in using them.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120730/11420719884/not-wise-french-t-shirt-company-tries-to-trademark-anonymous-logo.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120730/11420719884/not-wise-french-t-shirt-company-tries-to-trademark-anonymous-logo.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120730/11420719884/not-wise-french-t-shirt-company-tries-to-trademark-anonymous-logo.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 9 May 2012 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: A Logo With Any Other Name..?</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Some companies spend a lot of effort tweaking their logo and making sure their brand image stays shiny and new. But how much does it really matter? There are some truly iconic corporate logos, but it's really the businesses behind the logos that create the image of the company. Not the other way around. Or maybe a nice reliable-looking logo really does inspire a company and its employees to bleed purple or <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-investor-says-ceo-lied-tech-degree-200908609--finance.html">something</a>....

<ul>

<li> <a title="http://www.logodesignlove.com/indifferent" href="http://bit.ly/JRoxLL">Would you even notice if the name and logo didn't match?</a> A project by Tommaso Guerra mixes up a few recognizable logos and brands; Guerra isn't the first to do this and he won't be the last... [<a href="http://www.logodesignlove.com/indifferent">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://static.colourlovers.com.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/top-web-brand-colors.html" href="http://bit.ly/LHTlF1">A hundred web brands and their logos make a pretty rainbow.</a> Except the main colors are either blue or red -- with just a little green, yellow, orange, purple and gray. [<a href="http://static.colourlovers.com.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/top-web-brand-colors.html">url</a>]</li>

<li> <a title="http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp?aid=llPo" href="http://bit.ly/Jc3ZEi">LogoLounge has published its 10th annual logo trends report, pointing out a few common logo elements that some designers are (over-)using.</a> With the potato chip logo, perhaps once you pop, you can't stop. [<a href="http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp?aid=llPo">url</a>]</li>

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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:11:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Court Says Law Blocking Blogger From Displaying County Logo On Stories Violates The First Amendment</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Governments are pretty touchy about their logos.  Last year, the FBI threw a hissy fit when it discovered that Wikipedia accurately <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100803/00013910465.shtml">displayed its logo</a> on a page about (you guessed it) the FBI.  Similarly, the White House <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110426/16240714045/white-house-threatens-blog-accurately-using-white-house-logo.shtml">got upset</a> with a blogger who used the White House logo in a post about a meeting of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.  And, while there is a federal law against misuse of logos, that's for people using the logos to misrepresent themselves.  Going after Wikipedia or journalists for using logos in a descriptive manner is silly.
<br /><br />
However, Fluvanna County, Virginia, decided that it had nothing better to do than to pass an ordinance similarly banning the use of its logo, in an effort that appeared to have been directed at a blogger who used the logo... on stories about the county.  Thankfully, a court has <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2011/09/blogger_can_use.htm" target="_blank">struck down the law as being a First Amendment violation</a>:
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This sweeping prohibition encompasses a substantial number of uses of the seal that would not suggest government endorsement, such as the display on a website of an exact copy of an official County news release that contains the image of the seal next to the text, or the publication in a newspaper of a photograph of a County official delivering a speech from a podium upon which the County seal is attached and visible.
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The court does compare it to the similar federal law, but notes that at least the federal law makes it clear that it's only intended for use where there may be confusion over a potential endorsement.  And, with that, here's the damn logo that the county can't sue us over.
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>DailyDirt: Leggo My Logo...</title>
<dc:creator>Michael Ho</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Shakespeare wrote: <i>What's in a name? That which we call a rose. By any other name would smell as sweet.</i> -- but how much does a company's name really matter? Here are a few quick links on corporate logos and some branding twists.
<ul>
<li> <a title="http://www.toxel.com/inspiration/2011/07/26/companies-swapped-logos/" href="http://bit.ly/o0cFDp">Graham Smith is swapping the names behind various logos in an ongoing project -- that looks a bit confusing at times.</a> Modified logos are fun -- hopefully, though, the artists behind them won't be sued for trademark violations.... [<a href="http://www.toxel.com/inspiration/2011/07/26/companies-swapped-logos/">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp?aid=lnPf" href="http://bit.ly/rrM7QO">The ninth annual LogoLounge report on logo trends is out, covering 2011.</a> This year's colors are lighter and seem to include a lot of leaves. [<a href="http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp?aid=lnPf">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/003259.html" href="http://bit.ly/p2ruZG">Graphic designers from 2007 might remember this catchy song with the refrain: "Make The Logo Bigger!"</a> "I don't wanna tell you how to do your job, but could you make the logo bigger?" [<a href="http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/003259.html">url</a>]</li>
<li> <a title="http://theweek.com/article/index/218400/diet-cokes-bold-new-look-for-fall" href="http://bit.ly/oFgxdN">Coca-cola is going to make its Diet Coke logo so big -- that it won't quite fit on the can.</a> Thankfully, they didn't mess with the formula for Diet Coke. [<a href="http://theweek.com/article/index/218400/diet-cokes-bold-new-look-for-fall">url</a>]</li>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:23:32 PDT</pubDate>
<title>White House Threatens Blog For Accurately Using White House Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110426/16240714045/white-house-threatens-blog-accurately-using-white-house-logo.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last year, we wrote about the FBI <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100803/00013910465.shtml">threatening Wikipedia</a> for having the FBI logo on its site.  Wikipedia, thanks to its General Counsel Mike Godwin (of Godwin's Law fame), responded with a wonderful snarky reply.  While the FBI backed down, it does not appear that the administration got the message that there <i>are</i> situations in which a website might post federal logos and not break the law.  The latest involves the White House, who apparently got upset that blogger Keith Cowing (of SpaceRef.com -- a blog about science/space policy) included the White House logo in his <a href="http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=33262" target="_blank">post about a meeting</a> of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.  In response, <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/white-house-threatens-science-blog-over-use-logo" target="_blank">the White House actually called Cowing and demanded he take down the logo</a>.  In case you're wondering, this is the logo:
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Now, this is a perfectly reasonable use of the logo.  We're discussing it, and it's relevant to the news story.  It was also relevant to Cowing's post.  The issue that the White House has is with <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/701.shtml" target="_blank">18 U.S.C. sec. 701</a>, which is designed to prevent someone from <i>falsely</i> passing themselves off as working for the government by misusing such a badge.  Posting the badge on a website where it makes sense clearly does not qualify.  No one was reading that blog post thinking he represented the White House.  The White House also mentioned the "proximity to advertising," suggesting they were afraid that it would be seen as being associated with the White House. However, as the EFF notes in the link above, that's a pretty ridiculous interpretation:
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Cowing's use isn't deceptive either. The seal is plainly used in conjunction with the news article and the advertisement is no closer on this blog than ads are on news websites and in most newspapers and magazines for that matter. In fact, the seal of the Executive Office of the President of the United States is <a href="http://www.ametsoc.org/boardpges/cwce/docs/profiles/OSTP/profile.html">used</a> <a href="http://cacm.acm.org/news/105097-us-launches-federal-rd-dashboard/fulltext">extensively</a> all over the internet, sometimes even in <a href="http://www.nsti.org/events/NNI/sponsors/">promixity</a> to <a href="http://shortyawards.com/whitehouseostp?category=tech">advertising</a>. Threatening phone calls from the White House only serve to chill free speech. Indeed, Cowing has replaced the image of the seal with a pixelated version and the words &ldquo;OSTP Logo Pixelated Due to a Phone Call Complaint from the White House.&rdquo; 
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Finally, we agree with the EFF in noting: "surely the White House has better things to do than to threaten bloggers engaged in legitimate free speech."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110426/16240714045/white-house-threatens-blog-accurately-using-white-house-logo.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110426/16240714045/white-house-threatens-blog-accurately-using-white-house-logo.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110426/16240714045/white-house-threatens-blog-accurately-using-white-house-logo.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:13:36 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Woman Sues Yankees Over Their 75 Year Old Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Another day, another ridiculous lawsuit in a society that teaches people you can "own" anything.  This time it's a woman, Tanit Buday, who claims that <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/20/new.york.yankees/index.html" target="_blank">the NY Yankees owe her money</a> because of the team's famous tophat logo, which she says was designed by her uncle in 1936, for which he was never paid:
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Um.  Yeah.  So, I would imagine that the Yankees will pretty quickly point the court to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laches_(equity)" target="_blank">the principle of laches</a>, which is regularly used to dump trademark infringement lawsuits where there was an "unreasonable delay pursuing a claim."  75 years seems like an unreasonable delay in my book.
<br /><br />
As for why it took so long, the woman is not particularly clear.  She says that part of it was due to "trust in [the] Yankees owners."  Um.  Okay.  While she claims that her uncle didn't realize the team had used his design until 11 years after he designed it... she also notes that he helped the team revise the logo in 1952... so it doesn't sound like he was all that upset about not getting paid the first time around.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110422/01403713998/woman-sues-yankees-over-their-75-year-old-logo.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110422/01403713998/woman-sues-yankees-over-their-75-year-old-logo.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110422/01403713998/woman-sues-yankees-over-their-75-year-old-logo.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:08:51 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Vandals Win First Round Of Ridiculous Lawsuit Variety Filed Against Them; Issue Mocking Video</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110414/12115613896/vandals-win-first-round-ridiculous-lawsuit-variety-filed-against-them-issue-mocking-video.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've written a couple times about the absolutely ridiculous lawsuit that publishing giant Reed Elsevier <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100418/2352599064.shtml">filed</a> against the punk band The Vandals.  At issue was the fact that, years ago, the band put out an album, in which its logo was designed to parody the logo of Daily Variety, the Hollywood trade rag published by Reed Elsevier.
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Way back when the album was first coming out, Variety had sent a cease and desist letter, and rather than fighting it (with a very strong fair use/parody claim) The Vandals caved and agreed not to use the image.  However, the image can still be found online -- but not on sites controlled by the band.  So Reed Elsevier and Variety are suing the band for somehow not magically stopping these other sites from using the image.
<br /><br />
I had thought that once the ridiculousness of this became public, Reed Elsevier would quickly back down, but instead it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100909/04322810952.shtml">dug in</a>.  Even more ridiculous is that it sued in Delaware, <i>knowing</i> that this would make life more difficult for the band, which is based in LA.   Making things even more interesting is that the band's bassist, Joe Escalante, is also a former entertainment industry lawyer, though not a litigator.  But, not one to back down from a fight, he decided to represent the band, went about learning the basics of litigation, and even got himself admitted to practice in Delaware.
<br /><br />
Escalante emailed us to let us know that all of this has paid off so far, as the band has <a href="http://www.vandals.com/Vandals/Variety_Vs._Vandals_Blog/Entries/2011/4/10_Federal_Justice_Sleet_Agrees_with_The_Vandals._Variety_Loses_First_Round!.html" target="_blank">won the first round of the legal fight, and got the suit tossed out in Delaware</a> and sent to California where it should have been filed in the first place.  The short and sweet court order makes it clear that the judge finds it distasteful that Reed appears to have purposely filed the lawsuit across the country from the band to make life difficult for the band.  You can see the full order below, but the key point is in the footnote, where the court notes that it certainly <i>could</i> have jurisdiction on the case, but given the circumstances, it feels that it is not appropriate, clearly suggesting that it recognizes the use of the court in Delaware was mainly to inconvenience the band:
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The court recognizes that it could, if it were so inclined, choose to exercise jurisdiction over this matter and permit this case to proceed here in Delaware, given that a settlement agreement between the parties contains a clause that names Delaware as the forum for litigating disputes arising from the agreement.  That settlement does not bind this court, however, and given the facts and circumstances surrounding this case, the court has decided in its discretion to decline to exercise jurisdiction.  First, all relevant conduct and activities appear to have taken place in California, where the defendants reside and operate.  Similarly, it appears that the Central District of California would be a far more convenient forum for trial, since the court's reading of the complaint and other documents in the record is that the vast majority of documents and witnesses pertaining to this case are in California.  Furthermore, the consent judgment that underlies the plaintiffs' complaint was entered by the United States District Court for the Central District of California, and states that that court retains jurisdiction for the purposes of enforcing the consent judgment and related permanent injunction.  It would be far better for that court to determine whether the conduct in question falls within the scope of the consent judgment and permanent injunction.  Finally, given the defendants' apparently limited financial resources and the significant costs associated with litigating in Delaware, the court finds that the defendants would be unfairly prejudiced if they were forced to litigate in this district.
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In response to this ruling the band has been mocking Variety and its lawyers relentlessly.  The link above goes to a pretty incendiary blog post which, frankly, might also open the band up to defamation charges, but that would really only be digging Reed Elsevier deeper into a truly pointless legal battle.  Separately, the band has used our favorite movie creation tool, Xtranormal to create this rather hilarious (and probably NSFW) video of a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klSS7EoGzJk&#038;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">"fictitious meeting"</a> between Variety's outside lawyer on this case and Variety's editor.  It made me laugh:
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<pubDate>Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:20:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>FBI Claims Wikipedia Can't Display Its Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100803/00013910465.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Apparently the FBI has some free time on its hands.  How else can you explain this bizarre, and almost certainly legally questionable attempt to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/us/03fbi.html?_r=1&#038;hpw" target="_blank">force Wikipedia to remove its logo</a> on Wikipedia's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation" target="_blank">article on the FBI</a>:
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Wikipedia's General Counsel, Mike Godwin (yes, of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law">Godwin's law</a> fame) responded to the FBI with a <a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/us/20100803-wiki-LetterToLarson.pdf" target="_blank">delightfully snarky reply</a> (pdf) noting that the FBI's reading of the law concerning displaying an FBI badge is clearly written to prevent people from falsely presenting themselves as being with the FBI or directly profiting from the use of the seal:
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Godwin notes that the version of the law that the FBI conveniently sent him just happened to omit some parts of the law, which basically show that the law is entirely focused on such attempts to use the logo to deceive.  Among the key passages:
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Entertainingly, in support for your argument, you included a version of 701 in which
you removed the very phrases that subject the statute to ejusdem generis analysis. <b>While we
appreciate your desire to revise the statute to reflect your expansive vision of it, the fact is that
we must work with the actual language of the statute, not the aspirational version</b> of Section
701 that you forwarded to us.
<br /><br />
In your letter, you assert that an image of an FBI seal included in a Wikipedia article is
"problematic" because "it facilitates both deliberate and unwitting violations" of 18 U.S.C.
701. I hope you will agree that the adjective "problematic," even if it were truly applicable
here, is not semantically identical to "unlawful." Even if it could be proved that someone,
somewhere, found a way to use a Wikipedia article illustration to facilitate a fraudulent
representation, that would not render the illustration itself unlawful under the statute. As the
leading case interpreting Section 701 points out, "The enactment of &sect; 701 was intended to
protect the public against the use of a recognizable assertion of authority with intent to
deceive." ... Our inclusion of an image of the FBI
Seal is in no way evidence of any "intent to deceive," nor is it an "assertion of authority,"
recognizable or otherwise.
</i></blockquote>
Godwin also points out that the Encyclopaedia Britannica appears to have an image of the logo as well.  As for our own usage here, I'll first note that the NY Times is also displaying the logo with its story, and it would seem that all three of us are similarly not running afoul of this law, in that none of us are using the logo with any attempt to deceive at all, but to display factual information for the sake of informing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100803/00013910465.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100803/00013910465.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100803/00013910465.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:40:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Could Looking At London's 2012 Olympics Logo Land People In Prison?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100219/0353358240.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, here's a fun one sent in by <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/profile.php?u=churchhatestucker">ChurchHatesTucker</a>.  You may have heard the somewhat troubling story of the guy found <a href="http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/man-fined-for-downloading-simpsons-cartoon-porn/1458973.aspx" target="_blank">guilty of child pornography for downloading images of the cartoon Simpsons</a> performing sexual acts.  It does seem a bit ridiculous to claim that naked versions of famous cartoon characters represent actual child porn, but... so sayeth the court.  But, here's the potential problem:
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That is the logo for the 2012 Olympics in London.  My first reaction to it was that it's just hideous from a design standpoint, but others quickly noticed something worse.  You can look at that logo and... um... <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/artblog/2007/jun/05/howlisasimpsontooktheolym" target="_blank">see what appears to be Lisa Simpson... doing something she shouldn't be doing</a>.  Yeah.  Once you see it, it never goes away.  So, as CHT notes, given that ruling of child porn for having an image of a Simpsons cartoon child performing sex acts... is looking at the 2012 Olympic logo going to be classified as viewing child porn now?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100219/0353358240.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100219/0353358240.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100219/0353358240.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:54:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Would A Moron In A Hurry Be Confused By The Difference Between A High School And A Pickup Truck?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100210/0048218105.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://twitter.com/copycense/statuses/8893096999" target="_blank">Copycense</a> points us to a story from Florida involving a high school that quite clearly <a href="http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_education_edblog/2010/02/seminole-school-dodges-trademark-infringement-bullet.html" target="_blank">copied the logo of the Dodge Ram for the school mascot</a>:
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After someone alerted Chrysler, the lawyers got involved, and the school is now in the process of changing its logo and removing it from everything (including the gym floor).  My first though was wondering whether or not this was "use in commerce," which is required for trademark infringement.  I think a lawyer could make an argument that a school's usage isn't use in commerce -- but perhaps that's undermined by the logo appearing on school clothing (though, it's not clear that the clothes are for sale, or just what the sports teams get).  However, I do wonder if the Dodge logo trademark covers use on gymnasium floors and clothing...
<br /><br />
But, honestly, the bigger issue is <i>why the hell would Chrysler be upset about this</i>?  At <i>worst</i> it's getting a ton of free advertising from this school, with many students having a feeling of affinity for the logo, which could potentially increase their interest in buying a Dodge in the future.  Car companies spend lots of money on sponsorship to get their logos seen by lots of people.  And here's a school that's done that entirely for free... and Chrysler sends in the lawyers?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100210/0048218105.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100210/0048218105.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100210/0048218105.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:52:52 PST</pubDate>
<title>Amateur Artist Wants To Ban All Sales Of Old Baltimore Ravens Game Films Over Logo Copyright</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091213/2149477330.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://twitter.com/copycense/statuses/6615051222" target="_blank">Copycense</a> points us to an ongoing lawsuit by a guy seeking <a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravenslogo1204,0,3970249.story" target="_blank">to bar the Baltimore Ravens and the NFL from making use commercially of any game</a> involving the Ravens from 1996 to 1998.  At issue was that this guy claimed his logo design was copied by the team.  A few years back, William Patry <a href="http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2007/10/fourth-circuits-self-inflicted-wound.html" target="_blank">detailed the ridiculousness</a> behind the original lawsuit and how it had resulted in many more ridiculous lawsuits:
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Bouchat, a security guard in Baltimore, believed that the Baltimore Ravens had infringed a design he claims to have created for the team's logo. He sued the team and the NFL's licensing arm. In my opinion, there was no evidence of access and the thus the case should have been summarily dismissed. In my opinion, the case was a shakedown. But, applying the fatally flawed theory of striking similarity, the case went to a jury. The jury found liability, and the Fourth Circuit affirmed in an awful decision that drew an excellent dissent by Judge King, 228 F.3d 489 (4th Cir. 2000), amended by and pet. for reh'g en banc denied. 241 F.3d 350. Judge King's dissent is the best thing yet written on why striking similarity is inherently inconsistent with basic copyright principles, and as to the facts in Bouchat, devastating to the plaintiff's claim and the majority opinion.
</i></blockquote>
While Bouchat "won," he wasn't given any money, because he had failed to register his design before it was put into use.  But he's since sued various other companies, and this latest lawsuit is an attempt to say that no one can show those old films because they use "his" logo, despite the lack of evidence of actual copying (which, if copyright were actually about copyright would be necessary).  The lower court turned him down, noting that the use of the logo was incidental and fair use, but Bouchat is (of course) appealing.  This is, again, in line with Patry's analysis that this is nothing more than a shakedown.  He's not really interested in stopping the sale of these videos.  He wants the team to pay him a big chunk of money so that it can keep selling the videos.  This is not what copyright is intended to do, but it's what happens when copyright law gets out of control.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091213/2149477330.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091213/2149477330.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091213/2149477330.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Company Trademarks The Pirate Bay Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091117/0124256961.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Quite a few people have pointed to the story about a Swedish company that has <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/iconic-pirate-bay-ship-logo-hijacked-by-private-company-091116/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A Torrentfreak %28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">trademarked The Pirate Bay logo</a>, and plans to sell USB keys with the logo included.  The company claims that this is fine because The Pirate Bay had not registered the trademark itself.  In the meantime, some folks associated with The Pirate Bay are saying they're going to try to overturn the ruling.
<br /><br />
I don't know how Swedish trademark law works, but at least in the US there is a concept of a "common law trademark," which is supposed to prevent others from registering a mark on a brand that someone else is using -- even if they haven't registered it.  It would seem like quite a silly trademark law if the Swedish trademark law doesn't include anything like that.
<br /><br />
As for those who think it's ironic or even hypocritical that The Pirate Bay guys are somewhat bothered by this, you need to understand a few things.  First, they clearly state that they have no problem with anyone doing anything else with The Pirate Bay logo.  So, if this company just wanted to sell those USB keys by itself, it could do so.  The issue they have is with this company "locking up" the trademark so others can't use it.  That seems entirely in support with what they stand for.
<br /><br />
Separately, it's worth pointing out (yet again, because some people still get confused by this) that trademarks are wholly different beasts than copyrights or patents.  Trademarks are not about protectionism, but about preventing consumer confusion over who actually made or offers a specific product.  It's a very different concept.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091117/0124256961.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091117/0124256961.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091117/0124256961.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:52:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Alumnus Sues NYU Over Logo That The School Asked Her To Design</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090915/1927336205.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ I'm trying to understand where the legal issue is here, but a "freelance artist" and alumnus of NYU is apparently <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_nyu_bobcat_logo_is_my_work_she_hisses_in_copyright_lawsuit.html" target="_new">suing the school because it used the bobcat mascot she designed</a>.  But here's the thing: she designed it while she was employed by the school's athletic director.  In this case, she was just an equipment room clerk, but the associate director (a superior) asked her to create the mascot.   And then the school used it.  How is that possibly a copyright violation?  She was employed by the school.  Her boss asked her to do some work for the school.  She did it.  I'm having trouble understanding where there's a copyright violation.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090915/1927336205.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090915/1927336205.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090915/1927336205.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:41:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Can A Moron In A Hurry Tell The Difference Between A Hershey Bar And A Couch?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081030/2310572695.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ There are some legal decisions that just make no sense.  Gunnar writes in to let us know of a story in Michigan, where a judge has ordered a furniture store <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-hershey-furnituretruc,0,6022797.story" target="_new">to stop using a design that shows a couch being unwrapped from a candy bar</a>.  Hershey's sued the furniture company, claiming it violated their trademark on unwrapping chocolate bars:
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But here's the thing: even the judge admits that trademark law <i>shouldn't</i> apply here because it's a totally different business and there's little chance of customer confusion: "While both parties cater to the general public, there is no indication that their customers are predominantly the same.  Even if their customer bases overlap to some extent ... the risk of consumers confusing a furniture outlet with a candy store, or vice versa, appears remote."  Those are all things a judge says right before <i>denying</i> the trademark claim, but in this case, it went the other way.  If a moron in a hurry isn't likely to be confused, then there's no trademark infringement.  The furniture store wasn't even using the image yet -- but just had it in a contest for truck designs.  At least the company hadn't spent too much money painting up all the trucks.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081030/2310572695.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081030/2310572695.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081030/2310572695.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:54:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Apple Forgets About the Moron In A Hurry Test, Threatens School With An Apple In Its Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Blaise Alleyne</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>It was just a few years ago when Apple used the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060330/1829246.shtml">moron in a hurry test</a> to defend itself against a trademark suit, but their own legal department seems to have forgotten about it already. Apple has <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/10/06/bc-school-apple-logo.html">sent a cease and desist letter to the Victoria School of Business and Technology</a> for the use of a blue and green apple element in their logo. The Canadian school has created a <a href="http://www.schoolvictoria.com/ApplesandOranges">comparison page on their website</a> in an attempt to highlight the differences between the logos, hoping to dissuade Apple from launching a lawsuit by building public support. The page also contains the legal correspondence to date, including a letter in which the school's president asks if Apple is "suggesting that anyone using any variation of an apple for technology education related use is infringing on Apple's trademark."</p>

<p>The legal question is really about consumer confusion, as the Canadian Supreme Court has <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20060602/0938225.shtml">understood</a> in the past. Trademark law doesn't grant the holder an exclusive right over <em>every</em> use of a mark, just the right to prevent confusing or misleading use of it. The school <em>is</em> a technology school, but they're also a <em>school</em> -- an apple is a pretty common symbol for education. It seems like "even a moron in a hurry" would recognize the difference between the two logos, especially since the acronym "VSBT" is part of the school's. The <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20060924/194840.shtml">real problem</a> here seems to be the requirement of trademark law that the holder of a mark actively polices its use. This requirement encourages these sorts of cease and desist letters, even if it seems like a comparison between apples and oranges.</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081006/1207552465.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081006/1207552465.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081006/1207552465.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Google Sending Cease And Desist Letters Just For Using Google Logo</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well, we know that Google gets <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070817/021228.shtml">dragged into bogus trademark lawsuits</a> all the time, but that doesn't mean Google should be making bogus trademark claims itself.  The latest is that the company's lawyers <a href="http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-08-17-n67.html">sent a cease &#038; desist letter to a guy for using the Google logo</a> on an informative site where it was explained how to get your business listed on various search engines.  While it is true that you need to protect your trademark or risk losing it, it's ridiculous to think that this is a case where the trademark is being infringed or needs to be "protected."  Google's complaint is that this somehow might confuse people into believing the site was associated with Google and lessens Google's ability to make money.  If we pull out the ever popular <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060330/1829246.shtml">moron in a hurry test</a>, we find that Google's claims don't stand up.  No moron in a hurry is going to think the site is officially associated with Google.  As for hurting Google's ability to make money, this is a site that will <i>get more people to use Google</i> -- which is Google's exact defense when newspapers <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060918/020228.shtml">flip out</a> about Google linking to them.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070817/192302.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070817/192302.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070817/192302.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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