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<pubDate>Wed, 1 Aug 2012 22:54:50 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Amazon Reverses Course, Signs Licenses With Music Labels To Allow File Matching</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ In the spring of 2011, Amazon <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110329/02085613669/amazon-launches-digital-music-locker-even-as-legality-is-still-question.shtml">launched</a> its cloud music streaming player to much fanfare, along with questions about its legal status.  Amazon chose not to get licenses from the labels, saying (accurately) that since the service was just to allow individuals to upload and stream their own MP3s, there was no need to get licenses.  While the labels indicated they disagreed with this assessment, none seemed willing to take on the legal fight against Amazon (or Google who initially made a similar choice).  After both Amazon and Google launched their cloud offerings, Apple got attention for not doing a cloud player, but rather a matching and syncing system.  
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Now, Amazon has apparently decided that a similar matching system makes more sense... and has <a href="http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/07/amazon-decides-it-actually-does-need-licenses/" target="_blank">done licensing deals</a> with the four major labels and a bunch of indies.  The end result is that the streaming player is changing significantly.  The free service is greatly limited, and they now want $25/year for more.  If you pay, then it'll now match as many songs as it can on your hard drive with its own database, and automatically populate your account (similar to Apple's system).  Thus, users no longer need to upload all their tracks.
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Basically, Amazon bought a license to allow the matching, and then switched its whole service around to enable that (and to charge people).  It'll be interesting to see how well this works.  $25 isn't much at all, but in the year+ since Amazon's streaming player launched, I honestly can't remember ever hearing anyone mention using it.  I'm sure there are some out there, but it never seemed that successful, so it may be a challenge to get people to pay the $25.  Personally, I played around with Amazon's player a few times, but the storage limit as compared to Google's similar offering meant that I used Google instead.  These days I tend to bounce back and forth between Spotify and Google Music, and can't think of a reason to use Amazon's service instead -- even with the matching.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120801/02530119903/amazon-reverses-course-signs-licenses-with-music-labels-to-allow-file-matching.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120801/02530119903/amazon-reverses-course-signs-licenses-with-music-labels-to-allow-file-matching.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120801/02530119903/amazon-reverses-course-signs-licenses-with-music-labels-to-allow-file-matching.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:04:10 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Why Are The Record Labels Demanding Money To Let People Stream Legally Purchased Music?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Lately, I've been playing around with various music locker services, just to get a better understanding of how they work and to be able to access my (legally purchased) music collection on various machines and devices.  So far, they're all a bit limited, but it shouldn't be long until they get better.  However, the industry has always hated music locker services, and insisted that they somehow violate their copyright, even when the lockers simply allow individuals to place shift their own legal music.  There's an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091019/1848596602.shtml">ongoing lawsuit</a> over Michael Robertson's MP3Tunes for which a decision is expected shortly.  At the same time, Apple has been trying to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100811/01485810579.shtml">quietly enter the market</a> without disturbing the record labels.
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Why?  Because the labels have this bizarre theory of copyright that says that even if you have a music locker with entirely legal and authorized music, you still need to pay license fees to stream the music from the locker.  It's difficult to understand how that makes any sense at all, either from a common sense or legal standpoint, and the labels may have a difficult time getting such a concept to stand up in court.  But I'm reminded of the issue again as reports are leaking of <a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/report-google-music-to-combine-cloud-downloads/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A wired%2Findex %28Wired%3A Index 3 %28Top Stories 2%29%29" target="_blank">Google's proposed music service</a>, which would include a music locker component.  Apparently a big stumbling block, however, is that Google wants to charge $25/year for it, and do a 50/50 split with the labels.
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The labels, of course, are quite upset at such a proposal, claiming it's ridiculous, both in terms of the total amount and the revenue share.  But I'm wondering what their complaint is here.  If the music is legally purchased (or is given away in an authorized manner for free), then how can they possibly demand such exorbitant rates for streaming that very same music?  This is going to backfire on the labels in a big way.  Their constant refrain of "pay us every time you use," is looking more and more desperate.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100916/01441111039.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100916/01441111039.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100916/01441111039.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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