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<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 09:59:09 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Swedish Prosecutor Claims Registrar Of .se Domains An 'Accomplice' In Infringement Because Of Pirate Bay Domain</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/16464823123/swedish-prosecutor-claims-registrar-se-domains-being-accomplice-infringement-because-pirate-bay-domain.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ The concepts of secondary liability seem to go right out the window (along with basic rationality) when it comes to certain people freaking out about copyright infringement.  The latest is that Swedish prosecutors are apparently threatening the <i>registrar</i> that manages the .se domain with some form of charges <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-domain-registrar-assists-copyright-infringement-prosecutor-claims-130516/" target="_blank">because the Pirate Bay (briefly) ran on an .se domain</a>.
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&#8220;The legal system has not been able to shut down the service after the previous guilty verdict against TPB,&#8221; IIS Chief of Communications Maria Ekelund told TorrentFreak.
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&#8220;Therefore the prosecutor has opened a new case against both the domain holders and .SE. The prosecutor is accusing .SE of assisting TPB who are assisting others to commit copyright infringement.&#8221;
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[....] &#8220;In the eyes of the prosecutor, .SE&#8217;s catalogue function has become some form of accomplice to criminal activity, a perspective that is unique in Europe as far as I know,&#8221; says IIS CEO Danny Aerts. 
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That seems fairly ridiculous when you begin to think about the implications of it.  This is so far removed from any actual infringement, it's incredible.  This is the scorched earth approach to dealing with copyright infringement, with no care at all for any possible collateral damage in holding totally unrelated parties, who happened to be used by a service provider who, in turn, happened to be used by some people to possibly infringe, as liable for that infringement.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/16464823123/swedish-prosecutor-claims-registrar-se-domains-being-accomplice-infringement-because-pirate-bay-domain.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/16464823123/swedish-prosecutor-claims-registrar-se-domains-being-accomplice-infringement-because-pirate-bay-domain.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130517/16464823123/swedish-prosecutor-claims-registrar-se-domains-being-accomplice-infringement-because-pirate-bay-domain.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:22:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Swedish Pirate Party Stops Hosting The Pirate Bay, But Intends To Sue Anti-Piracy Organization For Unlawful Coercion</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, we wrote about how the Hollywood-backed Swedish anti-piracy organization, "Rights Alliance," was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/11342122041/anti-piracy-group-threatens-pirate-party-with-criminal-charges-hosting-pirate-bay.shtml">threatening</a> the Swedish Pirate Party with criminal charges for hosting The Pirate Bay.  It didn't stop there, however, also going after some of the connectivity firms <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-bandwidth-supplier-disconnected-but-the-ship-sails-on-130221/" target="_blank">further up the chain</a>, moving beyond mere secondary liability (TPB) and tertiary liability (the Pirate Party) to a ridiculous and astounding quaternary liability for a company providing connectivity to the Swedish Pirate Party, which hosted a part of The Pirate Bay, which is used by some individuals to infringe on copyright.  Still, getting involved in any such legal fight is difficult, so The Pirate Bay and the Swedish Pirate Party have <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-departs-sweden-and-sets-sail-for-norway-and-spain-130225/" target="_blank">moved The Pirate Bay's connectivity yet again</a>, such that it is hosted by the Spanish Pirate Party and the Norwegian Pirate Party.  Spain and Norway are two countries that have <i>resisted</i> attempts to censor sites like The Pirate Bay.
<br /><br />
However, even if the Swedish Pirate Party is no longer hosting the site, it is clear that it is not happy about this turn of events, and suggests it is planning legal action for "unlawful coercion" against the Rights Alliance:
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"The Pirate Party has a board meeting in a few days. I will recommend the board to file a police report against the Rights Alliance for unlawful coercion," Troberg says. "It is important to determine precisely how forgiving the system is to those who try to abuse the judicial system to silence others."
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Given how law enforcement has treated The Pirate Party so far in Sweden, it seems unlikely that much would come from such an action, but that just highlights a big part of the problem.
<br /><br />
In the meantime, this continues to show the ridiculous whac-a-mole nature of the entertainment industry's war on TPB.  The site isn't actually "hosted" by these other Pirate Parties, but rather it is widely distributed.  However, there does need to be a few key places where it connects clearly, so that people can find it.  And that, it appears, is the role that these Pirate Parties will take on.  And, while that's happening, it would appear that some other Pirate Parties around the globe are gearing up to be able to take on similar duties, should it be needed.
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All this for one ancient site that hasn't changed or innovated much in years.  It's kind of incredible.  Peter Sunde, The Pirate Bay's former spokesperson has insisted, for years, that The Pirate Bay should be dead already, not because of Hollywood's continued attempts to take it down, but because other sites should have innovated far beyond what TPB has offered.  Of course, I'd argue that Hollywood itself has had multiple opportunities to do that innovation, but instead has focused on attacking TPB and trying to cut off what consumers want, rather than figuring out ways to help provide the public what they want.  It's been a decade long case study in exactly how not to deal with disruptive innovation.  And this story shows no signs of changing any time soon.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/09515722117/swedish-pirate-party-stops-hosting-pirate-bay-intends-to-sue-anti-piracy-organization-unlawful-coercion.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/09515722117/swedish-pirate-party-stops-hosting-pirate-bay-intends-to-sue-anti-piracy-organization-unlawful-coercion.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/09515722117/swedish-pirate-party-stops-hosting-pirate-bay-intends-to-sue-anti-piracy-organization-unlawful-coercion.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>whac-a-mole</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:52:29 PST</pubDate>
<title>Anti-Piracy Group Threatens Pirate Party With Criminal Charges For Hosting The Pirate Bay</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For a few years now, the Swedish Pirate Party has <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/0958549466.shtml">provided</a> some hosting services to The Pirate Bay, arguing that attempts to take it down would amount to political censorship.  It appears that theory may finally get tested.  According to TorrentFreak, the Swedish anti-piracy group "Rights Alliance" has sent a letter <a href="https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-threatened-with-lawsuit-for-hosting-the-pirate-bay-130219/" target="_blank">threatening to take legal action against the Pirate Party</a> if it does not stop hosting the site.
<blockquote><i>
<p>In <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/126277796/20130219-Information-Till-PP-Och-ST-1">the letter</a>, which also targets bandwidth provider Serious Tubes, the group cites last year&#8217;s Supreme Court rejection of The Pirate Bay case <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-verdict-signals-threat-of-huge-new-anti-piracy-campaign-120201/">as a precedent</a> that hosting providers can be held liable for providing Internet services to file-sharing sites.</p>
<p>&#8220;With that decision, it was finally determined that not only those who operate illegal file sharing services, but also the Internet providers to such illegal services are committing a criminal act,&#8221; the Rights Alliance writes.</p>
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The party is figuring out how to respond.  They note that, given how the original TPB trial played out, even if they believe they're strongly in the right under the law, the courts seem to toss all logic out the window as soon as someone mentions "but, piracy!"  So they are reasonably concerned that a fair trial on the merits of the case would not come from this.  However, it would certainly be an interesting trial, and might certainly call more attention to the issues that go beyond just the initial TPB trial.  This is clearly getting into significant questions about secondary liability, especially over products that have significant non-infringing uses, and where the site itself is not hosting any of the infringing content.  The whole thing remains a witch hunt by people who don't seem to understand the technology.  A lawsuit against a political party may serve to highlight just how crazy this witch hunt has become.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/11342122041/anti-piracy-group-threatens-pirate-party-with-criminal-charges-hosting-pirate-bay.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/11342122041/anti-piracy-group-threatens-pirate-party-with-criminal-charges-hosting-pirate-bay.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130220/11342122041/anti-piracy-group-threatens-pirate-party-with-criminal-charges-hosting-pirate-bay.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>well,-that-could-get-interesting</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:45:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>German Court Sees Through The DOJ Fairy Tale, Rejects Attempt To Seize Megaupload Assets</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121114/11135421045/german-court-sees-through-doj-fairy-tale-rejects-attempt-to-seize-megaupload-assets.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120924/06222020500/nz-prime-minister-admits-that-government-illegally-wiretapped-megaupload-employees.shtml">covered a</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120731/03573919890/us-has-ignored-new-zealand-court-order-to-return-data-it-seized-megaupload.shtml">series</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120717/16255619735/doj-tries-to-explain-how-it-can-get-around-requirement-to-serve-megaupload-us.shtml">of</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120628/00065919518/yet-another-yes-another-error-megaupload-case-search-warrants-ruled-illegal.shtml">embarrassing</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120410/09414118440/more-mistakes-megaupload-prosecution-videotape-mansion-raid-has-gone-missing.shtml">setbacks</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/12172918409/megaupload-points-out-that-feds-want-to-destroy-relevant-evidence-its-case.shtml">for</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120318/16260418148/procedural-error-law-enforcement-means-restraining-order-kim-dotcom-null-void.shtml">the</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120420/13404818590/another-error-us-officials-may-kill-megaupload-prosecution.shtml">US government's</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120120/00373617487/megaupload-details-raise-significant-concerns-about-what-doj-considers-evidence-criminal-behavior.shtml">case</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120529/18175419119/new-zealand-judge-wont-rubberstamp-kim-dotcom-extradition-orders-us-to-share-evidence.shtml">against</a> <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120815/23472720067/new-zealand-high-court-fbi-must-release-its-evidence-against-kim-dotcom.shtml">Megaupload</a> over the past few months.  It's a pretty stunning trail of errors by US officials who seemed to think that a scary story about a "bad man" would trump a lack of actual evidence or following legal procedure.  While the case may hold up in the long run, it seems like everywhere you look there's evidence of highly questionable activity by the government.
<br /><br />
The latest setback comes from Germany, where the US sought assistance from officials in <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/natasha-kuilak-mellersh/german-courts-refuse-to-b_b_2122445.html?utm_hp_ref=tw" target="_blank">seizing various assets of Dotcom's or Megauploads</a>.  However, the court has now rejected the request:
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The Frankfurt judges have since rejected this request, because it contains insufficient evidence. The US legal team failed to demonstrate that a web hosting service for the illegal upload of copyrighted files, amounts to a  criminal offence.
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According to the German 'Telemediengesetz' (communications legislation), a hosting service for foreign files will generally not be accountable unless the host had active knowledge of illegal activity. The judges also emphasised that the concept of knowledge is limited to positive knowledge. Therefore if the service provider believes that it is possible or likely that a specific piece of information is stored on their server, this is not sufficient evidence of knowledge of abuse.
<br /><br />
According to the court ruling, there is no legal obligation to monitor the transmitted data or stored information or to search for any illegal activity.
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Of course this was the same point that we raised the day that Megaupload was shut down.  While it may be true that many Megaupload users have infringed on copyrights, there's a massive leap from that point to the idea that Megaupload is a <i>criminal</i> enterprise -- yet the US government's case basically skips over any details to make that leap.  Thankfully cooler heads are recognizing that a significant amount of the US's case seems to be based on a fairy tale that US officials -- under the influence of Hollywood -- keep telling.
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Tip to DOJ officials under the sway of Hollywood's version of the internet: remember, these people make their livings telling fairy tale stories.  You know those opening credit lines about how something is "based on a true story"?  Yeah, quite frequently the actual truth is a long way from what's shown.  It seems that you may have been taken in by another such Hollywood "true" tale.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121114/11135421045/german-court-sees-through-doj-fairy-tale-rejects-attempt-to-seize-megaupload-assets.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121114/11135421045/german-court-sees-through-doj-fairy-tale-rejects-attempt-to-seize-megaupload-assets.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121114/11135421045/german-court-sees-through-doj-fairy-tale-rejects-attempt-to-seize-megaupload-assets.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:33:49 PDT</pubDate>
<title>BREIN Scores Another Victory, Making It Suck Even More To Be A Dutch Internet Company</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/01504120821/brein-scores-another-victory-making-it-suck-even-more-to-be-dutch-internet-company.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Torrentfreak reports on a really scary ruling coming out of the Netherlands, in which a court <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site-webhost-ordered-to-pay-piracy-damages-121024/?utm_source=dlvr.it&#038;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">found hosting company XS Networks liable and ordered it to pay up</a> because it hosted a torrent site.  We've discussed issues of secondary liability, but this goes well beyond what we've seen elsewhere.  As TorrentFreak explains, super-aggressive Dutch anti-piracy organization BREIN was trying to shut down the site SumoTorrent and get information about its operators.  XS Networks, who briefly hosted the site, pointed out that it required a court order to turn over any info.  This is a perfectly reasonable stance.  However, it later backed down and reached an "agreement" with BREIN to hand over some info.  By that time SumoTorrent had moved on to another host, and the info that XS Networks had to give to BREIN was incorrect or useless.  BREIN then claimed that XS Networks was <i>responsible</i> for this situation and sued for damages.
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This is the point that any reasonable court would laugh at BREIN and tell its boss Tim Kuik to learn a little something about suing the proper party, rather than a tool provider (especially one who simply asked for a court order before coughing up private info and who later was clearly willing to negotiate in good faith).  Instead, the court went in the other direction, and said that SumoTorrent "is clearly facilitating copyright infringement" and that XS Networks should have magically known that to be the case, and shut the site down when BREIN first asked.  Even if you're a copyright system supporter, this ruling should scare you.  It takes away any sort of due process.  Most reasonable people admit that whether or not a site is illegal should require at least a basic adversarial trial in which the site is able to make its case.  But here the court ignores all of that, and the fact that it hadn't yet proved SumoTorrent guilty of infringement, and just insists that XS Networks should have magically accepted that BREIN must be right.  Talk about a recipe for abuse by BREIN and other copyright holders.
<br /><br />
If you're a hosting company in the Netherlands, your legal liability just shot way, way up.  Apparently, if you don't magically kick off every site that might be enabling someone to break the law, you yourself may be liable for any illegal actions done on the site (even without such illegality ever being proved).  That seems like a great recipe to get a bunch of Dutch hosting companies to reconsider even being in business.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/01504120821/brein-scores-another-victory-making-it-suck-even-more-to-be-dutch-internet-company.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/01504120821/brein-scores-another-victory-making-it-suck-even-more-to-be-dutch-internet-company.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/01504120821/brein-scores-another-victory-making-it-suck-even-more-to-be-dutch-internet-company.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:41:50 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Spineless Web Host Shutters Site Over Toothless Legal Threat Because Comments Are Too Much Trouble</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ What is it with hosting companies who are quick on the trigger to take down entire sites in a kneejerk response to legal threats, going way, way beyond their legal obligations?  We recently wrote about hosting firm ServerBeach <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121013/18332220701/textbook-publisher-pearson-takes-down-15-million-teacher-student-blogs-with-single-dmca-notice.shtml">taking down 1.5 million blogs</a> over a single copyright claim (when to keep their DMCA safe harbors, they only needed to take down the one bit of content highlighted).  Now another hosting company, PhoenixNAP, has done something even more ridiculous.  In response to a <a href="http://www.citizen.org/documents/Kasim-Reed-Complaint-Letter.pdf">takedown notice</a> (pdf) sent by Atlanta mayor Kasim Reed's lawyers, PhoenixNAP <a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2012/10/phoenix-naps-response-to-kasim-reed-shows-its-unreliability-as-a-data-center.html" target="_blank">took the entire gossip site LipstickAlley offline</a> without any notice to the site owner.  
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Reed was arguing that comments on the site were defamatory, though it's telling that his lawyers went straight to the hosting company, rather than the site itself.  Even so, PhoenixNAP was under absolutely no legal obligation to comply.  Unlike the notice-and-takedown provisions of the DMCA, when it comes to defamation, hosting companies have even greater safe harbors under Section 230 of the CDA, which makes it clear that service providers <i>are not liable</i> for speech made by others.  Period. They don't have to take down the content.  If Reed wants to sue those who actually made the comments (which are Lipstick Alley users, rather than Lipstick Alley itself), that's his business, but PhoenixNAP is under no obligation to do anything.
<br /><br />
Amazingly, even after being informed of this, PhoenixNAP stood by its decision (with the exception of noting that it should have informed Lipstick Alley's owner that it was cutting off the site).  As noted by Public Citizen's Paul Levy:
<blockquote><i>
 In response to a strong protest, Phoenix NAP acknowledged that its failure to give notice was a mistake in process, but it had no sympathy for Lipstick Alley&#8217;s legal rights; PhoenixNAP told me that it takes claims of defamation seriously and, without regard to the merits of the dispute, its customers must &#8220;resolve the issue with the complaining party.&#8221;  Indeed, PhoenixNAP was not at all disappointed to learn that Lipstick Alley felt it could no longer continue as a hosting customer, because, apparently, PhoenixNAP believes that web sites on which users can post comments generate too much trouble.  The discretion accorded to hosting services to avoid certain kinds of web sites is the other side of the coin from the important protections that section 230 affords, but consumers should be aware of the limitations before they are induced to sign on as customers.  PhoenixNAP might consider doing a better job of explaining its preferences
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These days, if you're hosting a website, you want a hosting company that will stand up for your rights, and recognize its own rights as well.  This move by PhoenixNAP has made it clear that it doesn't stand up for its own customers, and it should raise alarms for anyone who hosts a website with PhoenixNAP.  Apparently the company will shut you off if anyone complains, and it's your problem to deal with it.  That's not a hosting company that I would want to work with.  Furthermore, as Levy explains, actions like this only encourage more complaints to be sent their way:
<blockquote><i>
You would think that a hosting service like ServerBeach or PhoenixNAP would respond with hostility to complainants who take their demands straight to the hosting service instead of beginning with the web site where supposedly improper content is hosted.  When the service responds directly, and especially when it responds by taking down the customer&#8217;s entire site, the service not only encourages others to impose on the service by complaining there instead of to the underlying site.  The service also risks losing long-term customers who think that they ought to be given a bit more respect.  
<br /><br />
It is not only hosts of message boards or bloggers who allow comments who should worry about PhoenixNAP&#8217;s attitude about mere claims of bad content.  With PhoenixNAP playing the role of super censor for any web site it hosts, whenever an unhappy target of criticism takes its complaints straight to the data center, no web site operator can be confident about using its hosting services for sites that discuss public issues or public figures in ways that those who can afford to hire lawyers to send threatening letters may not like.
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As for the complaints of defamation against Lipstick Alley itself, the site has made it clear to Reed's lawyers that it is also <a href="http://www.citizen.org/documents/Kasim-Reed-Response.pdf" target="_blank">protected by Section 230</a> (pdf) and that the site "does not negotiate with bullies", such as those who send questionable takedown notices to web hosting companies rather than going to the appropriate parties.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/01204820772/spineless-web-host-shutters-site-over-toothless-legal-threat-because-comments-are-too-much-trouble.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/01204820772/spineless-web-host-shutters-site-over-toothless-legal-threat-because-comments-are-too-much-trouble.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121020/01204820772/spineless-web-host-shutters-site-over-toothless-legal-threat-because-comments-are-too-much-trouble.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:09:30 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Overeager Patent Troll Can't Tell Github From Its Web Host</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last year, we wrote about the somewhat random confluence of events that brought together two ex-file sharing industry execs (one associated with Kazaa and the other with Morpheus) and made them <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111219/02381817122/ex-morpheus-kazaa-execs-team-up-to-become-patent-trolls.shtml">extreme patent trolls</a>, suing a ton of internet companies under the ridiculous brand "PersonalWeb."  Well, PersonalWeb is adding to its ridiculous legacy by <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/18/patent-complaint-filed-against-rackspace-for-hosting-github/" target="_blank">suing Rackspace as well</a>, though as the <a href="http://files.priorsmart.com.s3.amazonaws.com/txedce/139822/Complaint.pdf?Signature=2gUCZFQvQ223LtiCK3n39fHWjd4%3D&#038;Expires=1348039621&#038;AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJWOP3U6XRH5BBMOA" target="_blank">complaint makes clear</a> (pdf), PersonalWeb seems mighty confused about what it's suing over.
<br /><br />
That's because it seems to be claiming that Rackspace is responsible for... GitHub.  Now, it's true that Rackspace, one of the most popular hosting companies out there, does provide <i>hosting services</i> to GitHub, but that doesn't mean that Rackspace is Github -- though you couldn't tell that from the filing.  Now, it isn't just filing about GitHub, but also Rackspace Cloud Servers, which obviously are a Rackspace product.  The patents being sued over are basically the same batch as we wrote about last year, but with one addition (added at the top -- it wasn't in last year's post because... it was only granted this year):
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents/US8099420" target="_blank">8,099,420</a>: Accessing data in a data processing system
</li><li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=LMnrAQAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=8,001,096&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=3BLvTuaCK8KbiQKJ8PX-DQ&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">8,001,096</a>:  Computer file system using content&#8208;dependent file identifiers</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=8QnjAQAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=7,949,662&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=AhPvTuXbGaOpiQKlp83XBA&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">7,949,662</a>: De&#8208;duplication of data in a data processing system</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=TBPgAQAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=7,945,544&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=LRPvTuGMIKPYiALetbjTBA&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">7,945,544</a>: Similarity&#8208;based access control of data in a data processing system</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=RxPgAQAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=7,945,539&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=VhPvTsrNLoaGiQKdrvSDBA&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">7,945,539</a>: Distributing and accessing data in a data processing system</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=slLWAAAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=7,802,310&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=hBPvTpXUJsGQiQLIh4irBg&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">7,802,310</a>: Controlling access to data in a data processing system</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=uZoVAAAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=6,928,442&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=pBPvTpGOOZHViALZ5a35Aw&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">6,928,442</a>: Enforcement and policing of licensed content using content&#8208;based identifiers</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=mtILAAAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=6,415,280&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=yBPvTqqxGeqYiAKqnuHCBA&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">6,415,280</a>: Identifying and requesting data in network using identifiers which are based on
contents of data</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=l5gYAAAAEBAJ&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=5,978,791&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=7BPvTsP-FYGUiQK4kpHGBQ&#038;ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA">5,978,791</a>: Data processing system using substantially unique identifiers to identify data items, whereby identical data items have the same identifiers</li>
</ul>
If those seem incredibly vague and broad to you, you're not alone.  M-CAM, a company which specializes in analyzing the quality of patents, found PersonalWeb's patents so egregious that it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111219/02381817122/ex-morpheus-kazaa-execs-team-up-to-become-patent-trolls.shtml">proposed</a> an award named after the examiner on a bunch of them, Khanh B. Pham:
<blockquote><i>
After reviewing PersonalWeb's patents, we propose that the USPTO indeed mold a "Pham" award to best commemorate the ultimate, the outrageous, the most horrifically unacceptable patent examination performance of the current patent system. 
</i></blockquote>
To be fair, it seems like Pham has plenty of company.
<br /><br />
There is also the oddity of Level 3 being a plaintiff on the case, though it sounds like it's just along for the ride as a silent partner:
<blockquote><i>
Level 3 has joined in this Complaint pursuant to its contractual
obligations under the Agreement, at the request of PersonalWeb.
</i></blockquote>
Basically, it sounds like part of the licensing deal in which PersonalWeb ended up with some Level 3 patents, and Level 3 gets a cut of some of the profits.
<br /><br />
For its part, Rackspace has rightfully <a href="http://www.rackspace.com/blog/patent-trolls-make-them-pay/" target="_blank">spoken out about the ridiculousness of this</a>.  What's good to see is that they don't just focus on the insanity of this particular case (though that is discussed), but the patent system as a whole:
<blockquote><i>
In fact, GitHub is a perfect example of a company that is built to foster and enhance innovation. The GitHub repository service for software development projects has achieved legendary status among open source developers all over the world. GitHub has over 2.1 million users hosting over 3.7 million repositories. They are a paragon of innovation. Yet PersonalWeb has the audacity to file a lawsuit which alleges that &#8220;Rackspace Cloud Servers and GitHub Code Hosting Service&#8221; infringe some obscure patent from 1999 that has nothing to do with Rackspace and GitHub. Who is truly innovating here, PersonalWeb or Rackspace and GitHub? PersonalWeb is not the issue of course. They are just another patent troll attempting to take advantage of bad law. It is their nature. They look for opportunity, and patent litigation can be very profitable. The real problem is the law. According to a recent study by James Bessen and Michael Meurer of the Boston University School of Law, titled <strong>&#8220;</strong><a href="http://ssrn.com/abstract=2091210">The Direct Costs from NPE Disputes</a><strong>,&#8221;</strong> patent trolls cost the American economy $29 billion in 2011. The authors found that patent troll litigation affected 5,842 defendants in 2011.
</i></blockquote>
It's good to see more companies speaking out and recognizing that this is a widespread problem that needs to be addressed, rather than a narrowly focused one on the margins.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120919/03025920427/overeager-patent-troll-cant-tell-github-its-web-host.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120919/03025920427/overeager-patent-troll-cant-tell-github-its-web-host.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120919/03025920427/overeager-patent-troll-cant-tell-github-its-web-host.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 05:11:04 PDT</pubDate>
<title>RapidShare: It Ain't The Hosting, It's The Linking</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120820/11165420101/rapidshare-it-aint-hosting-its-linking.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few years ago, RapidShare and Megaupload were often mentioned in the same breath as the two "evils" of the internet, according to the MPAA.  However, a few interesting things happened.  First, Rapidshare <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110106/16034212566/rapidshare-ruled-legal-yet-again.shtml">won</a> a series of lawsuits both in Europe and the US, that found its service to be legit.  The company also went on something of a big time charm offensive, hiring a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101228/17210912439/rapidshare-hires-big-dc-lobbying-firm-to-convince-politicians-that-riaampaa-are-lying-about-it.shtml">DC lobbyist</a> to improve its image with politicians, as well as being much more proactive with the press.  Finally, in the last few months, it's made even more efforts to stop its service from being used for infringing purposes.
<br /><br />
The latest thing, though, seems particularly silly.  At a conference, the company's Chief Legal Officer, Daniel Raimer, appears to be <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/rapidshare-wants-a-crackdown-on-linking-sites-120820/?utm_source=dlvr.it&#038;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">throwing links sites under the bus</a> by claiming that they're the real problem, and storage sites shouldn't be lumped in with linking sites.
<br /><br />
The thing is, both kinds of sites have both legal and illegal purposes, and it's silly and counterproductive for one kind to blame the other kind.  Storage sites have perfectly reasonable uses, and RapidShare has been bending over backwards to be a good player in that space.  But a user-generated site that includes links to content also can have perfectly legitimate and legal uses, and it seems particularly silly to assume otherwise.  From a legal standpoint, both kinds of sites should have reasonable protections against infringement (though that doesn't always appear to be true once things get to court).  But, even then, storage sites probably even have less of a reasonable claim under copyright law, because actual copies (reproduction rights) and distribution could potentially be attributed to them (though, clearly, they have reasonable claims of safe harbors).  With links sites, they neither store nor transmit the content, and it's difficult to see how they infringe on any of the key rights associated with copyright, even outside of the basic safe harbors.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120820/11165420101/rapidshare-it-aint-hosting-its-linking.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120820/11165420101/rapidshare-it-aint-hosting-its-linking.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120820/11165420101/rapidshare-it-aint-hosting-its-linking.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 3 Aug 2012 10:22:45 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge Posner: Embedding Infringing Videos Is Not Copyright Infringement, And Neither Is Watching Them</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Recently we've seen a number of cases, both civil and criminal, brought against websites that involve either links or embeds of videos hosted elsewhere.  UK student Richard O'Dwyer is facing <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120706/04332719602/poll-shows-only-9-uk-public-think-richard-odwyer-should-be-extradited.shtml">extradition</a> and criminal charges for hosting a site that did exactly that.  But, as many of us have wondered in the past, how is such a site infringing <i>at all</i>?  After all, the videos themselves were uploaded by other people to other sites.  The streaming occurs from those other servers.  The embed just points people to where the content is, but it does that neutrally, no matter what the content might be.
<br /><br />
A few months ago, we wrote about how the MPAA had jumped into a copyright infringement appeal involving porn producer Flava Works against a video "bookmarking" site called MyVidster.  The MPAA argued that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120411/20434818458/mpaa-just-wont-quit-jumps-into-legal-dispute-to-argue-links-embeds-are-infringing.shtml">links and embeds are infringing</a>, in support of a questionable district court ruling against MyVidster.
<br /><br />
The appeals court ruling has now come out, written by Judge Posner, and it's absolutely worth reading (embedded below).  Posner goes into great detail about how MyVidster's linking and embedding features don't even come close to infringing.  They're not infringement and they're not contributory infringement.  He goes through a pretty accurate description of how embedding works, and why MyVidster is separate from the uploading/hosting/streaming.  But then he notes that those <i>watching</i> the videos aren't even infringing, so there isn't even any infringement for MyVidster to contribute to:
<blockquote><i>
Is myVidster therefore a contributory infringer if a
visitor to its website bookmarks the video and later
someone clicks on the bookmark and views the video?
myVidster is not just adding a frame around the video
screen that the visitor is watching. Like a telephone
exchange connecting two telephones, it is providing a
connection between the server that hosts the video and
the computer of myVidster&#8217;s visitor. But as long as the
visitor makes no copy of the copyrighted video that he
is watching, he is not violating the copyright owner&#8217;s
exclusive right, conferred by the Copyright Act, &#8220;to
reproduce the copyrighted work in copies&#8221; and &#8220;distribute
copies . . . of the copyrighted work to the public.&#8221; 17
U.S.C. &sect;&sect; 106(1), (3). His bypassing Flava&#8217;s pay wall by
viewing the uploaded copy is equivalent to stealing
a copyrighted book from a bookstore and reading it.
That is a bad thing to do (in either case) but it is not
copyright infringement. The infringer is the customer
of Flava who copied Flava&#8217;s copyrighted video by uploading
it to the Internet.
</i></blockquote>
Got that?  It's actually important.  He's saying that those who are watching a video that someone else uploaded are not infringing on the reproduction right under copyright.  Only the uploader has potentially violated that right.  So there can't be a contributory infringement claim over that right.
<br /><br />
Of course, copyright includes a few other rights beyond reproduction.  There's also the "public performance" right.  After running through a few different theories there, Posner again finds no clear case of infringement.
<blockquote><i>
Flava contends that by providing a connection to
websites that contain illegal copies of its copyrighted
videos, myVidster is encouraging its subscribers to circumvent
Flava&#8217;s pay wall, thus reducing Flava&#8217;s income.
No doubt. But unless those visitors copy the videos
they are viewing on the infringers&#8217; websites, myVidster
isn&#8217;t increasing the amount of infringement.... An employee of Flava who embezzled corporate
funds would be doing the same thing&#8212;reducing Flava&#8217;s
income&#8212;but would not be infringing Flava&#8217;s copyrights
by doing so. myVidster displays names and addresses
(that&#8217;s what the thumbnails are, in effect) of videos
hosted elsewhere on the Internet that may or may not be
copyrighted. <b>Someone who uses one of those addresses
to bypass Flava&#8217;s pay wall and watch a copyrighted
video for free is no more a copyright infringer than if
he had snuck into a movie theater and watched a copyrighted
movie without buying a ticket.</b> The facilitator
of conduct that doesn&#8217;t infringe copyright is not a contributory
infringer.
</i></blockquote>
In other words, the person watching the video isn't doing a public performance (though the <i>hosting server</i> may be).  But since myVidster is only helping the person watching the video, then it's not violating the public performance right either.
<br /><br />
As we noted in our post about the original case, part of the ruling hinged on myVidster losing its DMCA safe harbor protections by not having a repeat infringer policy.  But Posner notes that the DMCA safe harbor <i>isn't even in question here because those viewing the videos have not infringed</i> and thus there is no copyright infringement related to myVidster for showing the embeds:
<blockquote><i>
myVidster received
&#8220;takedown&#8221; notices from Flava designed to activate
the duty of an Internet service provider to ban repeat
infringers from its website, and Flava contends that
myVidster failed to comply with the notices. <b>But
this is irrelevant unless myVidster is contributing to infringement;
a noninfringer doesn&#8217;t need a safe harbor.</b>
</i></blockquote>
This ruling makes it clear that watching embedded videos is not infringing and then <i>neither is hosting the embed code</i>.  While limited to the 7th Circuit, this ruling could still be quite handy in a number of other cases, including O'Dwyer's and the Rojadirecta case, which also involves embedded videos.  Eric Goldman is a bit <a href="http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2012/08/video_embedding_1.htm" target="_blank">more skeptical</a> of the impact of the ruling, arguing that Posner reasoning isn't particularly clear (well, he calls it a "train wreck.")  While I rarely disagree with Goldman, I'm not convinced that this is such a train wreck.  While Posner's explanation is, at times, convoluted, he does clearly make the main point: if there's infringement, it's completely disconnected from the user watching the video and the site doing the embedding.
<br /><br />
Either way, Posner vacates the lower courts ruling, and notes that there are a few other issues with the case (mainly having to do with some other aspects of myVidster's business), but the main fight shows no infringement.  Oh yeah, and Posner doesn't even reference the MPAA's filing in the case, suggesting how compelling that argument was...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120803/05165019928/judge-posner-embedding-infringing-videos-is-not-copyright-infringement-neither-is-watching-them.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120803/05165019928/judge-posner-embedding-infringing-videos-is-not-copyright-infringement-neither-is-watching-them.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120803/05165019928/judge-posner-embedding-infringing-videos-is-not-copyright-infringement-neither-is-watching-them.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:25:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>MPAA Ok With Allowing Users To Get Back Their Megaupload Files If 0% Infringement Can Be Guaranteed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120606/16165119228/mpaa-ok-with-allowing-users-to-get-back-their-megaupload-files-if-0-infringement-can-be-guaranteed.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been covering the ongoing series of fights concerning what happens to to all the data that was stored on the Megaupload servers.  The government has wanted it <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120130/07025717587/megaupload-users-plan-to-sue-as-their-files-data-are-about-to-be-destroyed.shtml">destroyed</a>.  Some users have <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120402/03423718322/megaupload-user-asks-court-to-return-legitimate-files-he-uploaded-to-megaupload.shtml">wanted access</a> to their legitimate content.  Megaupload wants access for its own defense.  The MPAA has wanted it preserved in case it can be used to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120321/12073218187/mpaa-asks-megaupload-data-to-be-retained-so-it-can-sue-users-then-insists-it-didnt-really-mean-that.shtml">sue others</a>.  Megaupload wants access for the sake of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120406/12172918409/megaupload-points-out-that-feds-want-to-destroy-relevant-evidence-its-case.shtml">its defense</a>.  Carpathia -- the hosting company -- just wants to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120321/12073218187/mpaa-asks-megaupload-data-to-be-retained-so-it-can-sue-users-then-insists-it-didnt-really-mean-that.shtml">stop paying</a> $9,000 per day to maintain the servers and data.
<br /><br />
However, as TorrentFreak notes, the MPAA's latest filing in this debate offers a very, very, very slight backtrack, in which it says that it kinda sorta would <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-megaupload-users-can-have-their-files-back-but-120606/?utm_source=dlvr.it&#038;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">be okay with letting users have access to download their own content</a>... but <i>if and only if</i> there can be a guarantee that not a single bit of infringement occurs as a part of that process. Oh yeah, and also so long as the Megaupload defendants don't get access either (though, it says that's a separate discussion for a separate legal filing).
<blockquote><i>
...the MPAA Members&#8217; position continues to be that if the Court is willing to consider allowing access
for users such as Mr. Goodwin to allow retrieval of files, it is essential that the mechanism
include a procedure that ensures that any materials the users access and copy or download are not
files that have been illegally uploaded to their accounts, given that MPAA Members and other rights holders are certain to own the copyrights in many of the files stored on the servers. In
addition, in no event should any Megaupload defendants or their representatives&#8212;who have not
generally appeared in this proceeding, and who are not subject to the control and supervision of
the Court&#8212;be allowed to access the Mega Servers under such a mechanism designed for the
benefit of third party Megaupload users. Whether and under what conditions the Mega
defendants should have access to the servers (again, assuming they are subject to the control of
the Court) is a separate issue.
</i></blockquote>
Of course, this assumes it's even possible to prevent 100% of infringement.  Which it's not.  And that's probably the point.  The MPAA gets to pretend that it's being "reasonable" by saying some access is okay... but immediately including an impossible caveat on top of that.  It's a neat way to pretend to be open to compromise, while really sticking to an extreme position.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120606/16165119228/mpaa-ok-with-allowing-users-to-get-back-their-megaupload-files-if-0-infringement-can-be-guaranteed.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120606/16165119228/mpaa-ok-with-allowing-users-to-get-back-their-megaupload-files-if-0-infringement-can-be-guaranteed.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120606/16165119228/mpaa-ok-with-allowing-users-to-get-back-their-megaupload-files-if-0-infringement-can-be-guaranteed.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Judge Preserves Megaupload Evidence For Now, While Gov't Tries To Pin Blame On Hosting Company</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/13563918516/judge-preserves-megaupload-evidence-now-while-govt-tries-to-pin-blame-hosting-company.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It appears that the judge handling the issue of what to do with Megaupload data -- a situation we've been <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?cx=partner-pub-4050006937094082%3Acx0qff-dnm1&#038;cof=FORID%3A9&#038;ie=ISO-8859-1&#038;q=carpathia">covering</a> for a while -- finds the entire situation just as annoying as many observers do.  He's decided that the evidence <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57413693-93/judge-wants-megaupload-user-data-preserved-for-now/" target="_blank">should not be destroyed yet</a>... but has also ordered all the various parties who are fighting over this to get together and see if they can broker some sort of deal.  Given the various positions by all the parties, I'm not sure this is possible.  
<br /><br />
The government doesn't care about the data (and possibly wants it destroyed such that evidence against their case goes away).  However, at the same time, the government has no interest in giving Megaupload back any of the millions of dollars it seized to pay for the maintenance of the data.  In fact, the government seems so against this data ever seeing the light of day that it's actually making the argument that <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/us-megauploads-hosting-company-might-be-sued-next-120415/" target="_blank">even Carpathia may be liable</a> for copyright infringement, because it made money from Megaupload.  This is a rather unique (and totally wrong) interpretation of secondary liability rules, but the DOJ seems so insistent on destroy this evidence that it's apparently not above tarring and feathering independent third parties.  Of course, if it really believed that Carpathia may be guilty too, you'd think it would want to preserve the evidence, rather than destroy it.
<br /><br />
Megaupload would gladly take on the data and pay for it if it could actually use the seized money for that purpose.  The MPAA, however, is completely against this, insisting that all of society would <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120403/03211918344/mpaa-says-letting-anyone-access-data-megaupload-servers-would-represent-infringement.shtml">collapse</a> should the data go back to Megaupload (only a slight paraphrase). That said, Greg Sandoval at CNET, who handled the original report (linked above) notes that it appears the judge is not particularly convinced that there's a huge problem if Megaupload is given the data back.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/13563918516/judge-preserves-megaupload-evidence-now-while-govt-tries-to-pin-blame-hosting-company.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/13563918516/judge-preserves-megaupload-evidence-now-while-govt-tries-to-pin-blame-hosting-company.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120416/13563918516/judge-preserves-megaupload-evidence-now-while-govt-tries-to-pin-blame-hosting-company.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>MPAA Says Letting Anyone Access Data On Megaupload Servers Would Represent Infringement</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As you may recall, the MPAA is among those who have said that Carpathia, the hosting company Megaupload used, must <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120321/12073218187/mpaa-asks-megaupload-data-to-be-retained-so-it-can-sue-users-then-insists-it-didnt-really-mean-that.shtml">retain</a> the data on its servers -- even though the Justice Department has said it's done with it and Carpathia was free to delete the evidence. Others, of course have also <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120402/03423718322/megaupload-user-asks-court-to-return-legitimate-files-he-uploaded-to-megaupload.shtml">asked for access</a> to their data.  And, most importantly, Megaupload itself has asked if it can keep the data.  Carpathia wants nothing to do with it, because it's costing the company $9,000 per day to hang onto the servers without doing anything else with them.
<br /><br />
However, in response to all of this, the MPAA has again gone to the court to suggest that if Carpathia gave the content to anyone else, <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/mpaa-megaupload-kim-dotcom-launch-servers-306914?utm_source=dlvr.it&#038;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">that alone would represent copyright infringement</a>:
<blockquote><i>
The sale or transfer of those copies from Carpathia to Megaupload or any other third party would constitute an unauthorized "distribut[ion] ... to the public" under the Copyright Act
</i></blockquote>
That seems like a pretty big legal stretch by the MPAA's typically overreaching lawyers.  Depending on who the content was transferred to, it doesn't automatically mean distribution "to the public."
<br /><br />
Of course, the continued insane paranoia of the MPAA continues to shine through in this filing as well.  It insists that if Megaupload is given back the servers, it will ship them to some other jurisdiction and immediately relaunch the site:
<blockquote><i>
"A sale or transfer of the servers to Megaupload (or any of the defendants) would raise a significant risk that Megaupload will simply ship the servers, hard drives or other equipment -- and all of the infringing content they contain -- to a foreign jurisdiction and relaunch the infringing Megaupload service, which would result in untold further infringements of the MPAA members&#8217; copyrighted works. If so, the renewed criminal enterprise might be beyond any effective legal remedy."
</i></blockquote>
This also seems like a reach.  All of the principles are under arrest and facing extradition to the US where they'll face criminal charges.  One would imagine they all recognize that it doesn't do their case <i>any</i> good to set the site up again in another jurisdiction.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120403/03211918344/mpaa-says-letting-anyone-access-data-megaupload-servers-would-represent-infringement.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120403/03211918344/mpaa-says-letting-anyone-access-data-megaupload-servers-would-represent-infringement.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120403/03211918344/mpaa-says-letting-anyone-access-data-megaupload-servers-would-represent-infringement.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:31:44 PST</pubDate>
<title>The 'New' Righthaven Offers Discount To Techdirt Readers Who Want 'Spineful' Hosting</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120221/03205417825/new-righthaven-offers-discount-to-techdirt-readers-who-want-spineful-hosting.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember Righthaven?  No, not <i><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120113/01205117397/righthaven-ceo-plus-two-former-righthaven-lawyers-being-investigated-nevada-state-bar.shtml">that Righthaven</a></i> who sued tons of people and companies on questionable claims in order to get them to cough up settlements.  We're talking about the other Righthaven... the Swiss company that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120124/03210517520/new-righthaven-to-offer-hosting-with-backbone-will-avoid-unnecessary-takedowns.shtml">bought the Righthaven.com domain</a> that was auctioned off after the old Righthaven failed to pay the attorneys' fees it owed.  The new Righthaven is all about being the anti-Righthaven in many ways: it's about setting up an ISP that provides "spineful" hosting, that will stand up to questionable takedown attempts.  This does <i>not</i> mean that they're offering "no questions asked" type hosting that spammers and malware providers love.  Quite different.  They're simply looking to host those who often have their free speech rights challenged, and who won't fold under questionable pressure without a <i>valid</i> legal basis.  As the company <a href="http://www.righthaven.com/blog/content/answers-frequently-asked-questions" target="_blank">explains</a>:
<blockquote><i>
There are many hosting providers who maintain a "no questions asked" policy with respect to their clients and use this approach and lax, evasive or non-existent abuse handling infrastructure to effectively provide a safe-harbor for bad actors. That is not our business model.
<br /><br />
Instead, we focus on hosting expression that has traditionally been subjected to frivolous legal threats based on its content. Our approach focuses on our team's wealth of expertise in dealing with high tech abuse and legal issues and our willingness to zealously defend our clients from frivolous, manipulative, abusive or outright fraudulent litigation. Our experience and expertise in issues ranging from fair-use to libel and whistle-blowing protections means we can often gently (and sometimes firmly) remind third parties about the many protections afforded legitimate publishers in these areas.
<br /><br />
Often a proactive, responsive and competent abuse management team engaging in an open dialogue and discussion with copyright holders or their legal counsel is all it takes to close what might otherwise escalate into a frivolous suit.
<br /><br />
But dialogue isn't always enough. Against this unfortunate possibility we have a second level of defense: In cooperation with our upstream providers in Switzerland we have some of the best free speech counsel in the world on retainer.
</i></blockquote>
The folks behind the company, which is based in Switzerland, admit that they're a bit more expensive than other hosting companies, but that's to cover the cost of actually having people who will take the time to understand legal threats made against you.
<br /><br />
Either way, the kind folks over at this new Righthaven are offering a 15% discount to Techdirt readers on everything except their bandwidth upgrades as a "thank you" for speaking out on various issues lately:
<blockquote><i>
Remember us? The upstarts over at Righthaven.com? Providers of
"spineful" shared, virtual private server and dedicated server hosting
services from the copyright-sane environs of Switzerland?
<br /><br />
We've enjoyed your coverage of SOPA, PIPA, ACTA (and us) and since we're
launching this coming week, we'd like to give your readers the first
bite at the jellyfish (so to speak).
<br /><br />
So for the next 14 days new accounts opened by Techdirt readers get 15%
off of everything except bandwidth upgrades.  Readers who sign up for 3
or 6 months can lock that discount in for the duration.
<br /><br />
Just browse on over to our order page at <a href="https://plutus.righthaven.com/" target="_blank">https://plutus.righthaven.com/</a>
and type "dirtlaunch" when prompted for a promotion code.
<br /><br />
Just our way of saying "Thank you" for increasing digital rights awareness.
</i></blockquote>
We certainly cannot <i>vouch</i> for these guys, but we absolutely appreciate the <i>need</i> for more ISPs that have a spine in protecting their customers' free speech rights.  Hopefully more ISPs will realize that that's a good <i>selling point</i> to potential customers.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120221/03205417825/new-righthaven-offers-discount-to-techdirt-readers-who-want-spineful-hosting.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120221/03205417825/new-righthaven-offers-discount-to-techdirt-readers-who-want-spineful-hosting.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120221/03205417825/new-righthaven-offers-discount-to-techdirt-readers-who-want-spineful-hosting.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:10:31 PST</pubDate>
<title>EU Court Of Justice Says Social Networks Can't Be Forced To Be Copyright Cops</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120216/02071617774/eu-court-justice-says-social-networks-cant-be-forced-to-be-copyright-cops.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few months back we noted that the European Court of Justice had ruled that ISPs <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111127/14274716903/european-court-justice-says-isps-cannot-be-forced-to-be-copyright-cops.shtml">couldn't</a> be required to set up a filtering system designed to catch copyright infringement. The case involved Belgian anti-piracy organization/collection agency SABAM, which had demanded that a local ISP proactively filter against infringement.  Apparently, SABAM didn't limit this strategy just to ISPs, but also brought similar efforts against online sites and social networks, including local social network Netlog.  That case followed a similar trajectory, and now the EU Court of Justice has <a href="http://www.laquadrature.net/en/online-copyright-eu-court-of-justice-rules-out-private-and-automatic-censorship" target="_blank">issued a similar ruling</a> noting that an online site can't be forced to proactively monitor for infringement because that infringes on too many other rights.  The court's <a href="http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-02/cp120011en.pdf" target="_blank">press release</a> (pdf) is worth reading:
<blockquote><i>
In the main proceedings, the injunction requiring the installation of a filtering system would involve monitoring all or most of the information stored by the hosting service provider concerned, in the interests of the copyright holders. Moreover, that monitoring would have to have no limitation in time, be directed at all future infringements and be intended to protect not only existing works, but also works that have not yet been created at the time when the system is introduced. Accordingly, such an injunction would result in a serious infringement of Netlog&#8217;s freedom to conduct its business since it would require Netlog to install a complicated, costly, permanent computer system at its own expense.
<br /><br />
Moreover, the effects of that injunction would not be limited to Netlog, as the filtering system may also infringe the fundamental rights of its service users - namely their right to protection of their personal data and their freedom to receive or impart information - which are rights safeguarded by the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union. First, the injunction would involve the identification, systematic analysis and processing of information connected with the profiles created on the social network, that information being protected personal data because, in principle, it allows those users to be identified. Second, that injunction could potentially undermine freedom of information, since that system might not distinguish adequately between unlawful content and lawful content, with the result that its introduction could lead to the blocking of lawful communications.
<br /><br />
Consequently, the Court&#8217;s answer is that, in adopting an injunction requiring the hosting service provider to install such a filtering system, the national court would not be respecting the requirement that a fair balance be struck between the right to intellectual property, on the one hand, and the freedom to conduct business, the right to protection of personal data and the freedom to receive or impart information, on the other.
</i></blockquote>
Here's another good court ruling against the massive overreach of the entertainment industry, as they seek to bend and break the internet so that it acts more like how they want it, rather than how everyone else wants it to work.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120216/02071617774/eu-court-justice-says-social-networks-cant-be-forced-to-be-copyright-cops.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120216/02071617774/eu-court-justice-says-social-networks-cant-be-forced-to-be-copyright-cops.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120216/02071617774/eu-court-justice-says-social-networks-cant-be-forced-to-be-copyright-cops.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:19:21 PST</pubDate>
<title>New Righthaven To Offer 'Hosting With A Backbone'; Will Avoid Unnecessary Takedowns</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, some folks here pointed out that the new Righthaven.com -- bought during the asset auction of Righthaven's domain for <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120107/01454817323/righthavencom-domain-sells-3300.shtml">$3,300</a>, as part of the effort to fulfill Righthaven's obligation to pay legal fees for one of its (many) bogus lawsuits -- had put up a page <a href="http://www.righthaven.com/pipa/" target="_blank">joining the anti-SOPA/PIPA protests</a>.  That certainly seemed encouraging, and suggested that (not all that surprisingly, really), the domain had been bought by someone who took a dim view on copyright maximalism.  
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I was going to write up something on that, but got busy with other, more timely, coverage on SOPA/PIPA.  However, I've now gone back to the new Righthaven, and it appears that they've announced <a href="http://righthaven.com/" target="_blank">plans to become a hosting provider "with a backbone,"</a> willing to withstand efforts to take down content on a questionable legal basis.  In a bit of irony... they've hired Righthaven-slayer, Marc Randazza, to act as their lawyer.
<br /><br />
Some reports have suggested that the new owner is <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/01/13/who-is-the-new-owner-of-righth.html" target="_blank">a hosting company in Switzerland</a>, called OrtCloud, which focuses on providing "privacy-friendly" hosting.  The new Righthaven.com basically has a manifesto, which is worth reading, first talking up the fact that anyone can publish online these days, and how important that is:
<blockquote><i>
You are the most important part of the digital economy. Period.
<br /><br />
You drive the discussion. You draw from the well of ideas, and refill it. You apply your particular character and unique vision to those ideas. You synthesize. But most importantly, you publish. That actually deserves its own line.
<br /><br />
<b>You publish.</b>
<br /><br />
But somewhere, sometime not too long ago, a large part of the global economy simply forgot about you and the importance of the simple act of clicking the "submit" button.
<br /><br />
In retrospect this seems strange. By and large the big, flashy heroes of the digital age (and we love them, we really do) claimed their laurels for producing tools like operating systems, software, communications networks, and hardware for you. To make it easier for you to hit "submit." To extend the range your content could travel after that mouse click.
<br /><br />
And yet, to much of the economy today and certainly to most politicians, you have become little more than a means to an end.
<br /><br />
That is a sad state of affairs.
</i></blockquote>
As for what Righthaven will actually provide?  They'll be a hosting company that doesn't fold like a cheap card-table, apparently:
<blockquote><i>
Righthaven.com will provide shared and dedicated server hosting services to clients who expect just a little more backbone from their provider. Well, actually a lot more backbone.
<br /><br />
We call it "spineful hosting" and not only do we think it is a "great idea"<sup>TM</sup> but as nearly fanatical advocates for the freedom of expression we are pretty sure it is also "the right thing to do."<sup>TM</sup>  Then again, we are prone to agree with ourselves quite often.
</i></blockquote>
And they're teaming up with upstream partners who have a similar outlook:
<blockquote><i>
Recent events and the pavlovian salivating of certain legislators upon hearing the fundraising dinner bell ringing from the Beverly Hills Hotel have certainly reminded us that the internet naming system is a serious choke point for any online enterprise.  In selecting our partners we wanted to make sure we teamed up with a domain registrar and DNS host who had a history of treating third party requests skeptically, but respectfully. We wanted a partner who wouldn't dissolve into incontinent fits and roll over on getting a call from United States Senator Joseph Lieberman's office intern, for instance. We found that partner in Toronto based <a href="http://www.easydns.com">easyDNS</a>. easyDNS has been providing clueful and spineful DNS and registry services since 1998. Their four-continent anycast DNS cluster fits the bill. Plus, easyDNS' founder, Mark Jeftovic, is the essence of a spineful owner.
</i></blockquote>
Seems like an excellent use of the Righthaven.com domain...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120124/03210517520/new-righthaven-to-offer-hosting-with-backbone-will-avoid-unnecessary-takedowns.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120124/03210517520/new-righthaven-to-offer-hosting-with-backbone-will-avoid-unnecessary-takedowns.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120124/03210517520/new-righthaven-to-offer-hosting-with-backbone-will-avoid-unnecessary-takedowns.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:13:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>More And More Internet Infrastructure Players Coming Out To Say How Bad SOPA/PIPA Are</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111223/03354017177/more-more-internet-infrastructure-players-coming-out-to-say-how-bad-sopapipa-are.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've noted in the past that most of the people who actually understand the basic internet infrastructure have come out against SOPA and PIPA.  That includes both individuals and companies (such as <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111108/10101816680/opendns-tells-congress-not-to-create-great-firewall-america.shtml">OpenDNS</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111123/00111116880/another-dns-provider-comes-out-against-sopa.shtml">Dyn</a>), but it appears that we may be reaching a tipping point with tons and tons of internet infrastructure companies speaking out against these bills. We've already talked about the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111222/13292217173/sopa-supporters-learning-slowly-that-pissing-off-reddit-is-bad-idea.shtml">massive GoDaddy backlash</a>... but it's interesting to note that many registrars and hosting companies are using this as an opportunity to speak out against SOPA and PIPA.  <a href="https://www.hover.com/blog/hover-opposes-sopa" target="_blank">Hover</a>, <a href="http://blog.dreamhost.com/2011/11/22/dont-drop-the-soap-drop-sopa/" target="_blank">Dreamhost</a>, <a href="http://community.namecheap.com/blog/2011/12/22/we-say-no-to-sopa/" target="_blank">NameCheap</a> and <a href="http://blog.name.com/2011/12/getting-on-our-sopa-box-and-saving-you-money/" target="_blank">Name.com</a> have all made explicit statements on their blogs.  Back in the DNS space, EasyDNS has written a <a href="http://blog.easydns.org/2011/12/22/how-sopa-will-destroy-the-internet/" target="_blank">blistering anti-SOPA post on its blog</a>:
<blockquote><i>
<p>If this becomes law, it's a short stretch from SOPA to NODA (No Online Dissent Anywhere) and if you think I'm a nutcase for saying so, I'd like to remind everybody what happened just over a year ago, when US politicians were tripping over themselves to shut down wikileaks (<a href="http://blog.easydns.org/tag/wikileaks" target="_blank">a royal fiasco in which this company was embroiled</a>) and to this day, they have not been charged with a crime anywhere.</p>
<p>Many of the "dirty tricks" employed against Wikileaks would be enshrined in law under SOPA (and someday, NODA):</p>
<ul>
<li>A requirement that service providers block access to offending domains, including that they stop resolving their DNS</li>
<li>Search engines to purge search results for offending domains</li>
<li>Payment processors to sever ties to offending domains</li>
</ul>
<p>And they added an extra provision that it will be an offense to knowingly create a service or system to provide a workaround to a banned domain or host. So for example, they would<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/homeland-security-wants-mozilla-to-pull-domain-seizure-add-on-110505/" target="_blank"> no longer have to hassle Mozilla to remove that firefox plugin that lets you reach ICE blocked websites</a>, it would be illegal to make it or distribute it.</p>
</i></blockquote>
And that's not all.  As if to drive home the point, a relatively new group called the <a href="http://savehosting.org/" target="_blank">SaveHosting Coalition</a> just came out with a <a href="http://savehosting.org/sopapetition/" target="_blank">letter signed by over 300 execs</a> involved in internet infrastructure companies, saying they're against SOPA.  The full letter, embedded below, is well worth a read.  It's quite comprehensive, and basically makes it quite clear that SOPA isn't just bad for internet infrastructure, but it's bad for jobs and the economy, as well as pretty much anyone who does anything online.  Here's just a snippet:
<blockquote><i>
We write to express that, after careful review of H.R.3261 - the Stop Online Piracy Act of 2011
(SOPA), we believe that this legislation will lead to significant loss of high-wage, high-tech jobs
in our industry and other industries that are directly or indirectly supported by our industry.
This impact will diminish the attractiveness of U.S. companies to foreign customers, while also
reducing the U.S. hosting industry&rsquo;s ability to compete with foreign competition within our own
borders. Further, and of equal importance, weaknesses in SOPA may actually lead to less
protection for intellectual property owners by undermining the stability of the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Finally, SOPA undermines the U.S. judicial system&rsquo;s
reputation as a fair and transparent method of resolving business disputes.
</i></blockquote>
It's getting more and more ridiculous for anyone to suggest that SOPA isn't harmful to the wider internet infrastructure, when pretty much anyone who knows anything about that infrastructure has come out against the bill.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111223/03354017177/more-more-internet-infrastructure-players-coming-out-to-say-how-bad-sopapipa-are.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111223/03354017177/more-more-internet-infrastructure-players-coming-out-to-say-how-bad-sopapipa-are.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111223/03354017177/more-more-internet-infrastructure-players-coming-out-to-say-how-bad-sopapipa-are.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>anyone-support-it?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:28:14 PST</pubDate>
<title>Irony Alert: NYC's Anti-Piracy Propaganda Campaign Using 'Free' YouTube</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110109/21070112580/irony-alert-nycs-anti-piracy-propaganda-campaign-using-free-youtube.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ A few weeks back, we wrote about the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/15111112387/nbc-universal-mpaa-get-nyc-mayor-bloomberg-to-run-propaganda-anti-piracy-ad-campaign.shtml">anti-piracy propaganda campaign</a> that NYC has been running, paid for by taxpayer dollars, which spreads typical MPAA FUD, and concludes with the line: "There's no such thing as a free movie."  However, in looking over the campaign, I just realized that the videos <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUABOIe5SWo&#038;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">are hosted on YouTube... for free</a>.  In other words, while NYC and its Hollywood friends are claiming that if you get something for free, it must be illegal, they're making use of free online services themselves.  Without YouTube, they'd have to pay for the hosting, bandwidth, streaming software, etc. themselves.  But this way, they get it for free.
<br /><br />
Now, it's absolutely true that YouTube could monetize the videos with ads (though, I don't see any on that video right now), but that sort of reinforces the point.  There are all sorts of business models that allow you to offer something for "free" to the end user, but are monetized elsewhere.  YouTube does exactly that.  It offers what would otherwise be quite expensive (hosting, bandwidth, streaming software, etc.) and gives it all away for free, and has built a whole business around that.  There's nothing saying that the movie industry can't do the same thing.  Rather than falsely stating that there's no such thing as a "free" (to the consumer) movie, there are certainly plenty of ways  that the movie industry could monetize movies that were offered free to consumers.  It's just that the legacy players choose not to.  And then complain.  And get politicians to waste taxpayer money...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110109/21070112580/irony-alert-nycs-anti-piracy-propaganda-campaign-using-free-youtube.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110109/21070112580/irony-alert-nycs-anti-piracy-propaganda-campaign-using-free-youtube.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110109/21070112580/irony-alert-nycs-anti-piracy-propaganda-campaign-using-free-youtube.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>free-free-free</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 07:15:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Now Random Webhosts Are Demanding Wikileaks Mirrors Be Taken Down Over Possibility Of DDoS?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/22394012391/now-random-webhosts-are-demanding-wikileaks-mirrors-be-taken-down-over-possibility-ddos.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ With all the attempts by corporations to distance themselves from Wikileaks -- often claiming dubious legal issues or terms of use violations that don't seem to really exist -- the EFF is pointing out that one of the (many, many) Wikileaks mirror sites was <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/12/weakest-links-host-buckles-when-upstream-provider" target="_blank">told by his hosting company he had to remove it or he'd lose his account</a>.  The reasoning was quite bizarre.  The host claimed that its upstream provider was worried about potential DDoS attacks:
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Recently we heard from a user who mirrored the Cablegate documents on his website. His hosting provider SiteGround suspended his account, claiming that he "severely" violated the SiteGround Terms of Use and Acceptable Use Policy. SiteGround explained that it had gotten a complaint from an upstream provider, SoftLayer, and had taken action "in order to prevent any further issues caused by the illegal activity."
<br /><br />
SiteGround told the user that he would need to update his antivirus measures and get rid of the folder containing the Wikileaks cables to re-enable his account. When the user asked why it was necessary to remove the Wikileaks folder, SiteGround sent him to SoftLayer. The user asked SoftLayer about the problem, but the company refused to discuss it with him because he isn't a SoftLayer customer. Finally, SiteGround told the user that SoftLayer wanted the mirror taken down because it was worried about the potential for distributed denial of service (DDOS) attacks. When the user pointed out that no attack had actually happened, and that this rationale could let the company use hypothetical future events to take down any site, SiteGround said that it was suspending the account because a future DDOS attack might violate its terms of use. 
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Taking down a site because it <i>might</i> possibly be subject to a DDoS attack in the future?  How does that make sense?  We were confused enough when EveryDNS claimed that getting hit by a DDoS <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101202/22322512099/wikileaks-says-its-site-has-been-killed.shtml">violated</a> its terms of service, but its even more confusing to think that the remote possibility that at some date in the future you <i>might</i> get hit by a DDoS is a terms of service violation.
<br /><br />
Separately, I was quite surprised to see SoftLayer's name as being involved here, because I'm aware of other situations in which SoftLayer has been <a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2010/10/gds-publishing-provides-a-timely-reminder-of-why-we-needed-the-libel-tourism-law.html" target="_blank">protective of customer rights</a> and not prone to act rashly.   So I'm curious if this was a miscommunication or if something else happened.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/22394012391/now-random-webhosts-are-demanding-wikileaks-mirrors-be-taken-down-over-possibility-ddos.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/22394012391/now-random-webhosts-are-demanding-wikileaks-mirrors-be-taken-down-over-possibility-ddos.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/22394012391/now-random-webhosts-are-demanding-wikileaks-mirrors-be-taken-down-over-possibility-ddos.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>weak-sauce</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:17:14 PST</pubDate>
<title>French Hosting Company Asks Judge If It's Okay To Host Wikileaks</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101203/09404112114/french-hosting-company-asks-judge-if-its-okay-to-host-wikileaks.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It seems like, as in the US with Senator Lieberman's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101202/16091112095/lieberman-introduces-new-censorship-bill-kneejerk-response-to-wikileaks.shtml">desire for censorship</a>, a French politician has also been <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B22UY20101203?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&#038;WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_tech&#038;WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter" target="_blank">looking to censor Wikileaks</a>, which has been partially hosted by French firm OVH.  However, rather than just folding, <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/PrometheeFeu/statuses/10746893604757504" target="_blank">PrometheeFeu</a> alerts us to the news that OVH notes that their job is to run infrastructure and they have no feelings one way or another about Wikileaks itself.  However, due to all of the publicity and controversy, they're <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ovh.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D65614" target="_blank">asking a judge if it's okay for them to do what they're doing</a> (Google translation of the <a href="http://forum.ovh.com/showthread.php?t=65614" target="_blank">original French</a>).  They specifically state that they don't think it should be up to politicians (or the company itself) to decide but that a court of law should actually determine if it's legal.  That certainly seems like a better solution than just taking it down...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101203/09404112114/french-hosting-company-asks-judge-if-its-okay-to-host-wikileaks.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101203/09404112114/french-hosting-company-asks-judge-if-its-okay-to-host-wikileaks.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101203/09404112114/french-hosting-company-asks-judge-if-its-okay-to-host-wikileaks.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>better-than-just-taking-them-down...</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:37:29 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Swedish ISP Told Not Just To Stop Hosting The Pirate Bay But To Block Others From Reaching It As Well [Updated]</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100628/0113009979.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ A former ISP for The Pirate Bay, Black Internet, was told by a Swedish court that it had to stop hosting the site a while back.  The Pirate Bay quickly switched to a different provider, but Black Internet went to court to challenge the legality of being told whom it can and cannot host.  It appears that the Swedish appeals court ruling on the matter went beyond just telling Black Internet that it can't host The Pirate Bay, <strike>it also told the ISP <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/swedish-isp-blocks-the-pirate-bay-following-injunction-100628/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A Torrentfreak %28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">that it must block all of its customers from reaching the site</a>, even though the site is no longer hosted by Black Internet. It seems like yet another attempt by courts trying to play whac-a-mole in an incredibly ineffective manner that is likely to do more damage than good.  Completely blocking people from reaching a site, even if they have legitimate reasons for reaching it, doesn't help anyone.  Those who are interested in infringing on copyrights will still figure out plenty of ways to do so.  They'll route around the blocks or go to other sites.  So what does this do other than create an inconvenience and set a bad precedent for any ISP?</strike> <b>Update</b>: Thanks to folks in the comments for pointing out the update, where the court is claiming that Black Internet misinterpreted the decision, which says that Black is prohibited from providing "internet access" and there's a bit of a debate over what "internet access" means.  It appears that Black interpreted that to mean "access" while the judge meant just hosting.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100628/0113009979.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100628/0113009979.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100628/0113009979.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>overkill?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 11:36:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Pirate Party Starts Hosting The Pirate Bay</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/0958549466.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Many people who don't follow these issues closely have long assumed that The Pirate Party and The Pirate Bay were somehow connected.  That's never been true, even if the people involved in each were philosophically aligned on certain issues (but not on all issues...).  Either way, it's a bit of a surprise to find out that, following the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100512/1856469403.shtml">injunction</a> against The Pirate Bay's bandwidth provider, that <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-party-becomes-the-pirate-bays-new-host-100518/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A Torrentfreak %28Torrentfreak%29" target="_blank">The Pirate Party has agreed to become the new host for The Pirate Bay</a>.  It's unclear exactly what this means, as The Pirate Party  must be getting its bandwidth from another provider, who, one would imagine, is also soon to be a target for an injunction.  Still, it seems like the Pirate Party is basically begging for a lawsuit to challenge these types of fourth party injunctions...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/0958549466.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/0958549466.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100518/0958549466.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>well-this-might-get-interesting</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:52:10 PST</pubDate>
<title>Shouldn't The Labels Be Paying YouTube For All The 'Free' Service They Provide?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091217/0334237405.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ I recently wrote about Simon Cowell's <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091215/0941527364.shtml">conflicting statements</a> expressing anger that YouTube didn't pay him for showing the Susan Boyle video millions of times, while then being happy that the same video will result in 10 million album sales.  In my latest column for <i>The Telegraph</i>, I explore how the <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/6832196/How-the-record-labels-spurned-the-YouTube-opportunity.html" target="_blank">legacy music industry made a huge mistake in attacking YouTube</a> and having videos pulled down off the site for not getting "paid" enough, when just a few years ago if they had wanted to put up music videos of their bands, they would have paid an arm and a leg for software, hosting and bandwidth -- and the consumer experience would have been a hell of a lot worse (RealNetworks media player, anyone?).
<br /><br />
In thinking more about this, I was realizing how hypocritical the recording industry is on this particular topic.  After all, they go on and on about how bad "free" is, and how they <i>must</i> get paid for any use of their content or they can't survive.  And, yet, when someone gives <i>them</i> something for free (and YouTube provides free software, free bandwidth, free community and a bunch of other benefits), they complain that <i>they're not getting paid</i>.  It's an incredible double standard.  If the recording industry were actually being intellectually honest (I know, I know...), wouldn't they be demanding to <i>pay</i> Google for providing such a service, since (as they claim) you "can't make money from free"?
<br /><br />
Separately, I had wanted to mention this in the Telegraph column, but ran out of room.  It is worth noting that at least some of the industry has, in some ways, "embraced" YouTube with the launch of Vevo a couple weeks ago (though, that launch was completely bungled by apparently not expecting anyone to actually visit the site).  I still haven't quite figured out what Vevo is, however.  It's a joint venture of Google and Universal Music, with EMI and Sony Music as partners (Warner remains the major label holdout).  As far as I can tell, though, it just seeks to be a separate platform to give the labels some more "control" over videos on YouTube.  I still can't figure out why this needs to be a separate company, other than to play financial games.  Isn't this just a feature of YouTube?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091217/0334237405.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091217/0334237405.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091217/0334237405.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>because-free-is-bad,-right?</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:48:07 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Google To The World: Don't Be So Sure YouTube Isn't Profitable</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090721/0431065609.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It was just a few weeks ago that we were suggesting all the talk about YouTube's inability to be profitable was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090707/0202015463.shtml">suspect</a>, and there was increasing evidence not that YouTube was profitable yet, but that the claims of how much they were losing didn't take into account the real situation.  Still, it comes as a bit of a surprise for Google to come out with a blog post that basically <a href="http://ytbizblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/youtube-myth-busting.html" target="_new">tells everyone that they are way, way, way off in thinking that YouTube is a huge money loser</a> for the company.  The reason it's a surprise is because it actually seemed like Google <i>enjoyed</i> having people think that YouTube was such a loser, since it held back competition.  Perhaps there was some fear that it was also holding down the stock price or something.  Either way, hopefully we can put to rest the silly idea that YouTube is some sort of blackhole for money.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090721/0431065609.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090721/0431065609.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090721/0431065609.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>and-there-we-go...</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:48:37 PST</pubDate>
<title>Washington Post Story Convinces Service Providers To Pull The Plug On Major Spam Enabler</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/1236162810.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ We're seeing a bunch of folks pointing out that evidence collected by the Washington Post's computer security writer, Brian Krebs, is basically <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111200658_pf.html" target="_new">responsible for getting that company kicked off the internet</a>.  Krebs is a fantastic reporter, so I don't doubt the story -- but I'm always a little skeptical of stories claiming that a huge percentage of spammers have been knocked offline.  We see such stories every few months, and it never seems to have any <i>real</i> impact on the amount of spam out there.  Just last month there was a report claiming that the world's largest spam operation was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081015/0143132545.shtml">shut down</a>, but the actual amount of spam flowing across the network <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081020/1834542597.shtml">did not decrease</a>.
<br /><br />
This case is a little different, in that it didn't shut down the spammers themselves, but rather a hosting company that apparently many of the largest zombie botnets relied on.  However, it seems quite likely that they'll find some other hosting company that will gladly take them on and everything will be up and running again.  That's not to say it's bad that these guys get taken down -- but at some point people should realize this seems like a big game of whack-a-mole, and there may be better, more efficient ways to tackle the problem.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/1236162810.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/1236162810.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/1236162810.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>but-where-do-they-go</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:42:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Lexus Gets Into The Video Hosting Business...?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081010/1527162519.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ So, we were a little confused recently when Toyota <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081006/1510022468.shtml">sued a nude model</a> for using the name Alexus, as it seemed difficult to believe there would be any "confusion" between the two.  However, who knew that Lexus was getting into the entertainment business?  We've talked in the past about BMW's famous <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20021022/0951238.shtml">BMW Films</a> effort, as an example of how the future of advertising needs to recognize the blurring lines between <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080318/004136567.shtml">content and advertising</a>.  In BMW's case, each film was directed by a famous filmmaker, starred actor Clive Owen, and included a BMW that tended to act as something of a co-star.  The films were entertaining as pure content, rather than as traditional advertising.
<br /><br />
Since then, we've seen plenty of other companies try similar things, with varying degrees of success.  For example, the recent set of Microsoft ads involving Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates received a very <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080905/1337532180.shtml">mixed reaction</a> -- in part because people <i>expected</i> them to be like traditional ads, pitching a specific product, rather than creating a story line that was entertaining in its own right.
<br /><br />
Now, one of our readers, William Jackson, points us to an experiment apparently by the car company, Lexus (a part of Toyota).  It's called <a href="http://lstudio.lexus.com/" target="_new">L Studio</a>, and appears to be something of a web video platform, showing a bunch of professionally produced videos.  As Jackson notes, some of them do involve a Lexus, such as this <a href="http://lstudio.lexus.com/#vid1239" target="_new">documentary about an artist</a> creating a piece of artwork out of a Lexus:
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However, others seem to have absolutely nothing to do with Lexus automobiles at all, and often star recognizable actors, such as this video starring Famke Janssen trying to juggle <a href="http://lstudio.lexus.com/#vid1302" target="_new">her dating life</a> with her dog:
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I'm sure some will complain that these sorts of videos don't make any sense, as they do nothing to promote the vehicles -- but it may be worth seeing where this campaign goes from here.  Some of the videos are entertaining and help put Lexus' brand around "lifestyle" content, and that could get people to start associating the Lexus brand with a certain type of lifestyle.  Sure, it might not be as "in your face" as sponsoring a TV show or doing product placement, but if the content is good and gets people to <i>seek it out</i> rather than intrude on what they're doing, this could be a very effective branding campaign.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081010/1527162519.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081010/1527162519.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081010/1527162519.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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