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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:03:40 PDT</pubDate>
<title>WSJ Claims That Wikileaks Is Not Journalism But Espionage By Taking A Bunch Of Quotes Out Of Context</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ The Wall Street Journal's former publisher, Gordon Crovitz, has apparently decided to follow the lead of the NY Times' former managing editor Bill Keller in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130312/17262822304/nyt-former-exec-editor-misrepresents-bradley-manning.shtml">misrepresenting</a> things having to do with Bradley Manning and Julian Assange to new and impressive heights.  Crovitz has a history of being <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120723/11524619798/when-wsj-flunks-internet-history-blogs-step-to-educate.shtml">fact-challenged</a>, especially when it comes to the internet, and his latest opinion piece entitled <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324532004578362593064526174.html" target="_blank">Aiding the Enemy Isn't Journalism</a> is an impressive work of bad journalism.  Let's start from the top.
<blockquote><i>
It looks as if Pfc. Bradley Manning and Julian Assange will go down in history as outliers, not trend setters. There have been no copycat leaks of massive quantities of diplomatic and intelligence documents, despite how easy the Internet makes it to leak and the fact that more than four million Americans have clearance to access government secrets.
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Um, might that have something to do with the fact that the US government went absolutely apeshit over the release and charged Manning with a variety of offenses that have the possibility of capital punishment?  We've already discussed the fact that the administration's reaction likely created massive chilling effects for whistleblowers around the world.  Pointing to the lack of anyone willing to step into that breach doesn't mean Manning was necessarily an "outlier."  It just means the government's intimidation campaign against whistleblowers may have been quite effective.
<br /><br />
Furthermore, requiring an exact "copycat" as the standard for whether or not leaking government docs was a one-time ordeal is just silly.  Prior to Manning's leak, Wikileaks had a regular stream of important documents leaked to it, so I'm not sure what Crovitz thinks he's proving here.
<blockquote><i>
Among the prosecution's more than 100 witnesses will be a Navy SEAL who participated in the raid in Pakistan that killed Osama bin Laden. He'll testify to finding Manning-Assange documents on the terrorist leader's computer. Prosecutors are seeking a sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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How much do you want to bet that terrorists have read the Wall Street Journal as well at times?  How does that matter?
<blockquote><i>
The key element of this espionage charge is intent: Did Pfc. Manning mean to give intelligence to the enemy? In his 35-page plea, Pfc. Manning describes himself as a whistleblower, but he doesn't explain what he was blowing the whistle on. The documents didn't disclose government wrongdoing. Instead, WikiLeaks posted unedited diplomatic and intelligence cables that identified by name Iraqis, Afghans and others who were helping the U.S. war effort. People were outed as homosexuals in countries where that makes them a target for deadly violence. Prosecutors will identify a long list of victims.
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And here, Crovitz is just lying.  Either that or he's ignorant.  First off, Manning highlighted some key things that he was blowing the whistle on in both his chat with Adrian Lamo and in his plea.  Things like the "collateral murder" episode, in which US military helicopters shot reporters.  I'd consider that (and the ensuing coverup) to be "government wrongdoing."  Furthermore, it's simply untrue that Wikileaks just "posted unedited diplomatic and intelligence cables."  Wikileaks worked with a small group of newspapers -- including the NY Times, The Guardian and others -- to sort through the leaked cables, redact sensitive information, and highlight which stories were important.
<blockquote><i>
Building a case that Pfc. Manning knowingly gave intelligence to the enemy seems open and shut. The more interesting question is how this requirement of intent applies to Mr. Assange.
</i></blockquote>
No, it doesn't seem "open and shut" at all.  Having the press report on something embarrassing is not "knowingly giving intelligence to the enemy."  If it is, then shouldn't <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130110/14123321633/why-bob-woodward-his-white-house-sources-should-be-trial-before-bradley-manning.shtml">Bob Woodward and his White House sources</a> be facing similar charges?  After all, Woodward's book <i>Obama's War</i> was <i>recommended by Al Qaeda</i> for people to read after the death of Osama bin Laden.  Woodward's book contained much more classified info, including the code names for NSA programs, details of CIA activities in Afghanistan, and details about Chinese hackers breaking into Obama's computers.  But somehow that's considered legitimate reporting, but Manning's activities are "an open and shut case" of knowingly giving intelligence to the enemy?  That's ridiculous.  Manning gave information to the press.  It may have embarrassed the US at times, but that's not the same as giving "intelligence to the enemy."
<blockquote><i>
President Obama has used the Espionage Act often, invoking it six times to bring cases against government officials for providing classified information to the media&#8212;twice the number of such cases brought by other presidents since the law was passed in 1917. So it's at least curious that Mr. Assange hasn't been charged.
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It's not that curious at all when you realize that Wikileaks didn't "leak" information it had privileged access to, but rather worked with other news organizations to <i>publish</i> information that had been leaked <i>to</i> Wikileaks.
<blockquote><i>
Bill Keller, a former executive editor of the New York Times, recently wrote: "As a matter of law I believe WikiLeaks and the New York Times are equally protected by the First Amendment." That misses the point. Unlike WikiLeaks, the mission of newspapers is to inform the public. Mr. Assange's stated mission is to undermine the U.S. That ought to make it much easier to prove that he intends to help the enemy.
</i></blockquote>
This is a total whitewash of actual history.  We actually wrote about Wikileaks right <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070115/082900.shtml">when it launched</a>, and its goal from the beginning was also to "inform the public."  And, early on it had little interest in the US.  When it launched, we noted that it was focused on Asia, the Middle East and Africa -- areas where they were interested in exposing corruption, which is a public service.  It's only the rewriting of history that suggests Wikileaks was about anyone trying to "undermine the US."  I'm sure that, now, having seen everything the US has done to go absolutely apeshit about Wikileaks, that Assange doesn't have pleasant feelings towards the country (of which he is not and has never been a citizen), but it seems like an incredible leap beyond basic facts to argue that the mission of Wikileaks was to "undermine the US."
<blockquote><i>
"An authoritarian conspiracy that cannot think efficiently," [Assange] wrote in 2006, "cannot act to preserve itself."
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It might help to <a href="http://www.thecommentfactory.com/exclusive-the-wikileaks-manifesto-by-julian-assange-3342/" target="_blank">read where that came from</a>, and note that it actually builds off a quote from Teddy Roosevelt, which says: "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul this unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of statesmanship."  Assange's "manifesto" may have been naive and silly, grandiose and full of itself, but that hardly makes it evidence of a plan to undermine the US specifically.  It is a general call for stopping authoritarianism around the globe by increasing transparency and stopping the powers that be from communicating too much in secret, something that many people feel is a reasonable goal.
<blockquote><i>
But news executives and media lawyers should think twice before treating Mr. Assange as if he were a journalist. If leaders in the news industry blur the distinction between their journalists and self-proclaimed enemies of the state like Mr. Assange, they may encourage prosecutors to make the same false equivalence.
</i></blockquote>
Frankly, I'm no fan of Assange, who often seems incredibly self-important for no good reason, but Crovitz's willingness to toss out the press freedom he relies on, based on taking a few quotes and actions completely out of context to claim that a media organization can be declared the "enemy of the state" for wishing to change government to make it more open and more responsive to the will of the people is really frightening.  That he doesn't realize how that can be twisted and turned around on himself and the wider Wall Street Journal directly is even more troubling.
<br /><br />
Just for fun, how difficult would it be to make the case that Crovitz himself is an "enemy of the state"?  Let's make this clear: in the following paragraph I am deliberately taking Crovitz's comments out of context, in the same way he did with Assange's (though, unlike Crovitz, I actually link to the original sources -- Crovitz just implies what he thinks Assange and Wikileaks have said most of the time).  Let's go: In one recent column, he supports <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324048904578320141944040664.html?mod=WSJ_article_RecentColumns_InformationAge" target="_blank">"a march on Washington"</a> to change US policy to make it more immigrant friendly.  So, he's advocating attacking our own government for the aid of foreigners?  Hmmm...   In <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323539804578266290231304934.html" target="_blank">another column</a>, Crovitz actively calls for tech companies to become "united to go after overreaching government."  That same column complains about the US government and laws they pass.  That sounds like a call for revolution and overthrowing the US government.  Clearly, he's an enemy of the state.  In <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203922804578081114066270392.html">another piece</a> he calls for ramping up the police state in the US, cheering on entrapment, which seems to clearly go against American ideals.  In another piece, Crovitz <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444165804578012904284534228.html" target="_blank">cheers on France</a> while criticizing the US government.  In another story, he calls for using US taxpayer money to <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704608104575219022492475364-search.html">help Iran and China</a>!
<br /><br />
And that's just with a very, very quick stroll through some of Crovitz's recent opinion pieces.  Meanwhile, the organization he writes for, The Wall Street Journal, is in the news today for supposedly <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/17/wall-street-journal-department-justice_n_2896472.html?utm_hp_ref=media" target="_blank">bribing Chinese officials</a>.  Hmm...
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Yes, my paragraph about Crovitz is totally bogus, but if he's willing to toss out freedom of the press, and twist statements about seeking more transparency and being against authoritarianism as being an "enemy of the state", well, he shouldn't be surprised when people show that he, too, is an enemy of the US.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130317/23380422356/wsj-claims-that-wikileaks-is-not-journalism-espionage-taking-bunch-quotes-out-context.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130317/23380422356/wsj-claims-that-wikileaks-is-not-journalism-espionage-taking-bunch-quotes-out-context.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130317/23380422356/wsj-claims-that-wikileaks-is-not-journalism-espionage-taking-bunch-quotes-out-context.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:01:14 PST</pubDate>
<title>Bradley Manning Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize As People Begin Realizing How Damaging His Case Is To A Free Press</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ With Bradley Manning pleading <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130228/11343922157/bradley-manning-pleads-guilty-to-some-charges-reveals-that-major-newspapers-ignored-his-offer-to-leak-collateral-murder-video.shtml">guilty</a> to some of the lesser charges against him, Harvard law professor Yochai Benkler -- who is a possible expert witness in the trial -- has an excellent and detailed post about why the entire case against him should be seen as <a href="http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112554" target="_blank">a threat to the nature of whistleblowing and a free press</a>.  He notes that the US prides itself on its support of the First Amendment, even in uncomfortable situations, but this case could flip that around in a very damaging way.
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A country's constitutional culture is made up of the stories we tell each other about the kind of nation we are. When we tell ourselves how strong our commitment to free speech is, we grit our teeth and tell of Nazis marching through Skokie. And when we think of how much we value our watchdog press, we tell the story of Daniel Ellsberg. Decades later, we sometimes forget that Ellsberg was prosecuted, smeared, and harassed. Instead, we express pride in a man's willingness to brave the odds, a newspaper&#8217;s willingness to take the risk of publishing, and a Supreme Court&#8217;s ability to tell an overbearing White House that no, you cannot shut up your opponents.
</i></blockquote>
Yet, in the case of Manning, the government is going much, much, much further.  It is trying to make leaking information to the press the equivalent of espionage and aiding the enemy -- a capital offense.  If you want to create chilling effects on free speech and a free press, this is how you do it.  If you believe in the stories above, about the fundamental respect for the First Amendment, then the nature of the prosecution should worry you a great deal.
<br /><br />
As for those who claim that leaking to Wikileaks is not like the Pentagon Papers or leaking something to the press, Benkler's detailed analysis shows why that's bunk.  <i>Since</i> Wikileaks released some of the material that Manning sent them, the organization has been painted as being this evil anti-American organization, and there's also been a big spotlight on Julian Assange, who is certainly not presented as a particularly likeable character.  But, as Benkler points out, <i>before</i> Wikileaks got that material, it was <i>regularly</i> seen as an upstart media property, and a great place for whistleblowers to go to expose fraud and corruption.  In other words, the idea that Manning chose to go to Wikileaks to harm the US seems quite unlikely.  His story of exposing wrongdoing by the US and forcing a debate on how to have America live up to its principles has more credibility when you realize just how Wikileaks was portrayed prior to Manning's material being submitted:
<blockquote><i>
The reputation that WikiLeaks has been given by most media outlets over the past two and a half years, though, obscures much of this&#8212;it just <b>feels</b> less like &#8220;the press&#8221; than the New York Times. This is actually the point on which I am expected to testify at the trial, based on research I did over the months following the first WikiLeaks disclosure in April 2010. When you read the hundreds of news stories and other materials published about WikiLeaks before early 2010, what you see is a young, exciting new media organization. The darker stories about Julian Assange and the dangers that the site poses developed only in the latter half of 2010, as the steady release of leaks about the U.S. triggered ever-more hyperbolic denouncements from the Administration (such as Joe Biden's calling Assange a &#8220;high-tech terrorist&#8221;), and as relations between Assange and his traditional media partners soured.
<br /><br />
In early 2010, when Manning did his leaking, none of that had happened yet. WikiLeaks was still a new media phenom, an outfit originally known for releasing things like a Somali rebel leader&#8217;s decision to assassinate government officials in Somalia, or a major story exposing corruption in the government of Daniel Arap Moi in Kenya. Over the years WikiLeaks also exposed documents that shined a light on U.S. government practices, such as operating procedures in Camp Delta in Guantanamo or a draft of a secretly negotiated, highly controversial trade treaty called the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. But that was not the primary focus. To name but a few examples, it published documents that sought to expose a Swiss Bank&#8217;s use of Cayman accounts to help rich clients avoid paying taxes, oil related corruption in Peru, banking abuses in Iceland, pharmaceutical company influence peddling at the World Health Organization, and extra-judicial killings in Kenya. For its work, WikiLeaks won Amnesty International's New Media award in 2009 and the Freedom of Expression Award from the British magazine, Index of Censorship, in 2008.
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It's sometimes difficult to remember that, given everything that happened in the past two and a half years.
<br /><br />
Benkler goes on to point out that the "precedents" that the US tries to rely on to argue that whistleblowing to the press is a form of aiding the enemy are ancient, obsolete and laughable.  Many of the arguments go back to some Civil War-era precedents, and even then, when you look at the details you realize they were discussing something extremely different than what happened with Manning (i.e., the cases involved using the press to send coded messages about confidential info, not releasing the info to the public).
<br /><br />
In the end, Benkler makes a powerful point:
<blockquote><i>
If Bradley Manning is convicted of aiding the enemy, the introduction of a capital offense into the mix would dramatically elevate the threat to whistleblowers. The consequences for the ability of the press to perform its critical watchdog function in the national security arena will be dire. And then there is the principle of the thing. However technically defensible on the language of the statute, and however well-intentioned the individual prosecutors in this case may be, we have to look at ourselves in the mirror of this case and ask: Are we the America of Japanese Internment and Joseph McCarthy, or are we the America of Ida Tarbell and the Pentagon Papers? What kind of country makes communicating with the press for publication to the American public a death-eligible offense?
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What a coup for Al Qaeda, to have maimed our constitutional spirit to the point where we might become that nation.
</i></blockquote>
Given all of that, you can see why some have <a href="http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2013/03/05/manning-among-record-number-nobel-peace-prize-nominees" target="_blank">nominated Manning for the Nobel Peace Prize</a>.  While it is highly unlikely that Manning will be given serious consideration for the prize, the more you look at the case, the more you realize how dangerous the US government's own argument is here, and how much of an attack it is on fundamental principles we supposedly believe in and fight for here in the US.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130305/03020122199/bradley-manning-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-as-people-begin-realizing-how-damaging-his-case-is-to-free-press.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130305/03020122199/bradley-manning-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-as-people-begin-realizing-how-damaging-his-case-is-to-free-press.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130305/03020122199/bradley-manning-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-as-people-begin-realizing-how-damaging-his-case-is-to-free-press.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:45:38 PST</pubDate>
<title>Stop Calling Electronic Espionage Cyberwar</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Geigner</dc:creator>
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Cyberwar. Cyberwar never changes, mostly because it has never existed. Since the dawn of the new millenium, when the movie Hackers was still Congress's best approximation of the threat of compromised computers, thoughts have been spilled in the name of expunging this stupid hyperbole, this made-up threat with a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130123/08103221763/cyber-war-one-sided-battle-against-trumped-up-enemy.shtml">trumped-up</a> enemy. We're told the threats are everywhere, from an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130219/06284622026/irans-new-jet-can-fly-photoshop-least.shtml">Iranian</a> government that provides more laughs than danger, to a pirate wing of the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130103/10123621568/pirated-buildings-china-rise-architectural-mashups.shtml">Chinese</a> military, to simple psychotic terror-hacking wings. Sadly, it is left to a pathetically small few media members <a href="http://blogs.cio.com/security/17828/why-you-shouldnt-believe-cyber-war-hype#disqus_thread">to push back against the nonsense</a>.
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<i>If stealing secrets is an act of war then America is currently at war with all of its allies. Espionage is what governments do so they don&rsquo;t have to go to war...directly. What appears to be upsetting the Congressman is that the Chinese are using espionage to make money in a way that the United States didn&rsquo;t think of first.</i>
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In the year 2013, after millenia of technological progress coupled with man's fear of it, the tidal wave of a complicit mainstream media could hold itself back no longer. As such, the world has been plunged into an abyss of cyber-nuclear threats, and bullshit.
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<i>The Times wasn&rsquo;t content with using other peoples&rsquo; reports based on circumstantial evidence so it went out and got one of its own. The study by Mandiant has come under some fairly withering criticism.</i>
<br /><br />
<i>-It doesn&rsquo;t appear to say anything new. CEO Kevin Mandia: "Mandiant&rsquo;s not the first company to blame China for the hacks, but it was our turn to carry the ball for a little bit." Translation = &ldquo;We were working for the NYT and that&rsquo;s some golden PR.&rdquo;</i>
<br /><br />
<i>-Did I mention it was based on circumstantial evidence? <a href="http://jeffreycarr.blogspot.com/2013/02/mandiant-apt1-report-has-critical.html">Jeffrey Carr does a superb job</a> of explaining why Mandiant saw exactly what it expected to find and then offers several other equally valid possible perpetrators, including Russia, France and Israel.</i>
</blockquote>
But this threat has not, as some have predicted, caused the end of the world. Instead, the fake apocalypse was just the prologue to another crappy chapter of human history. For man had succeded destroying the fourth estate for the betterment of the cyber-defense industry.
<blockquote>
<i>Here is my boilerplate response on the security weakness of U.S. utilities in regards to cyber attacks: "Yes, there is a problem. It is not a crisis. To do any significant damage any such attack would most likely have to be associated with a physical attack." (The sky is not falling, Chicken Little, but I bet I could make a whole lot of money convincing you otherwise.)</i>
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Cyberwar. Cyberwar never changes, because it has never existed.
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<pubDate>Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:40:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Spy Stories From The Murdoch Empire: News Corp Fights With Itself In Grand Game Of Espionage</title>
<dc:creator>Leigh Beadon</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>Back in 2008, News Corp (owners of satellite providers DirecTV) was sued by DISH Networks for allegedly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080415/022244853.shtml">hacking</a> their competitors satellite smartcards and flooding the market with them. News Corp (sort of) <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080520/1954001185.shtml">lost</a> that lawsuit. Following News Corp's more recent high-profile hacking scandal related to News Of The World, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120327/11144018260/news-corp-accused-hacking-competitors-smartcards-to-increase-piracy-satellite-tv-rivals.shtml">more accusations</a> of satellite hacking emerged, this time in the UK.</p>

<p>But amidst all the lawsuits and accusations, it turns out there are some other fascinating stories to be found in News Corp's world of competitive corporate hacking and private security. A new book by Neil Chenoweth, <em>Murdoch's Pirates</em>, digs into that world and turns up some pretty fascinating results. From an excerpt published in the Sydney Morning Herald,  we get the story of some befuddled inter-agency espionage between News Corp and its own subsidiary, complete with <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/on-the-run-with-murdochs-pirates-20121024-284th.html" target="_blank">aliases, informants, moles and a cross-border escape gambit by a spy on the run</a>.</p><p>

</p><p>The story is complex, but I'll attempt to summarize. In the late 90s, NDS (the branch of News Corp that deals with private security and anti-piracy activities) sent top hacker Oliver K&ouml;mmerling undercover to Toronto, under the pseudonym Alex, with a mission: pose as a satellite pirate and infiltrate the rings selling hacked DirecTV smartcards. Oliver was also one of the hackers directly involved in the hacking of <em>competitors'</em> smart cards, but in this case he was being put to work defending News Corp's own satellite operation. But NDS made one big mistake: they never told DirecTV, which had its own security/anti-hacking division led by a former FBI agent, and they believed Oliver was still a bonafide satellite pirate at large. They had no idea he was now working for NDS&mdash;and one of the Canadian hackers Oliver met with turned out to be working <em>for DirecTV</em>, and ratted him out to them. Moreover, no matter NDS or Oliver's intentions, he was breaking the law by hacking and selling smart cards to track down the "real" hackers&mdash;so he ended up facing potential arrest or detainment at the border.</p>

<p>As a result, the two security divisions (both ultimately owned by News Corp) played spy-games with each other, and for the details you really should just read the whole story. It's fascinating, and quite funny&mdash;and it also raises some interesting questions about how big corporations should approach this kind of security. In one way, I actually think some of the principles here are the <em>right</em> way to approach things&mdash;investigate the biggest commercial pirates until you have enough evidence to either bring a lawsuit against them or pass the case along to a criminal prosecutor. That's better than having the government act as corporate police. However, <em>big</em> problems arise when companies start breaking the law in the course of their investigation&mdash;as much as they might want to play spy, they don't get the exemptions that law enforcement and intelligence agencies do. It's also highly troubling when their investigations are intertwined with law enforcement, such as when FACT in the UK <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120820/01553920095/horrifying-surfthechannel-criminal-conviction-driven-hollywood-money-not-government.shtml">joined the police raid</a> on the SurfTheChannel offices&mdash;that's crossing a line between private interests and government. But then, on top of all that, you have the potential for a comedy of errors like this one: News Corp spending lots of resources to put a man in significant danger in a foreign country, for the sake of hacking its own products, and spurring its own property to put more resources into tracking down a hacker that was supposed on be on their side. At some point you have to ask: what is security worth? And how likely is it to be effective against hackers if it is disorganized to the point of farce?</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/10074620905/spy-stories-murdoch-empire-news-corp-fights-with-itself-grand-game-espionage.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/10074620905/spy-stories-murdoch-empire-news-corp-fights-with-itself-grand-game-espionage.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121101/10074620905/spy-stories-murdoch-empire-news-corp-fights-with-itself-grand-game-espionage.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Leaked White House Report Finds No Evidence Of Huawei Spying</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Remember that Congressional report from last week that warned everyone to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121008/17080120649/congress-fear-chinese-networking-companies-ignore-that-china-makes-all-our-networking-equipment.shtml">fear Huawei</a>, the Chinese telco equipment maker?  Much of the fearmongering was around Huawei's close ties to the Chinese government (and military specifically) with no actual allegations, but plenty of speculation that there could be espionage issues.  Of course, now, details of a White House report have leaked, claiming that they <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/17/us-huawei-spying-idUSBRE89G1Q920121017?feedType=RSS&#038;feedName=technologyNews&#038;utm_source=dlvr.it&#038;utm_medium=twitter&#038;dlvrit=56505" target="_blank">found no evidence of Huawei spying</a>.  They <i>do</i> point out that there are problems with Huawei equipment that could lead to exploitable security flaws -- which is certainly an issue.  Of course, that seems like an issue that security experts to deal with, rather than politicians...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121017/14031720736/leaked-white-house-report-finds-no-evidence-huawei-spying.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121017/14031720736/leaked-white-house-report-finds-no-evidence-huawei-spying.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121017/14031720736/leaked-white-house-report-finds-no-evidence-huawei-spying.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:18:53 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Congress: Fear Chinese Networking Companies! But Ignore That China Makes All Our Networking Equipment!</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ For years, there have been reports or whispers about how Chinese networking giant, Huawei, might not be trustworthy.  Specifically, people talked about how China might hide trojan horses in the equipment for economic espionage or even cyberattack reasons.  These rumors got so loud that Huawei last year flat out told the US government <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110224/14244113248/huawei-to-us-government-please-investigate-us.shtml">to investigate it</a> and come to its own conclusion.  Well, the House Intelligence Committee has done exactly that... and <a href="http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/Huawei-ZTE%20Investigative%20Report%20%28FINAL%29.pdf" target="_blank">Huawei is not pleased</a> (pdf).  Despite the investigation coming at its own request, with its promises to be as open as it could be, the report slams Huawei and another company ZTE, and basically says "don't trust these companies."
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Huawei has <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/260829-hauwei-blasts-report-accuses-house-panel-of-libel" target="_blank">hit back hard</a>, claiming that the report is "libel" and "utterly lacking in substance."  They also note that it appears to just be political, calling it "an exercise in China-bashing and misguided protectionism."  Indeed, some commentators are noting that this has all the indications of <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-08/congressional-report-on-huawei-smacks-of-protectionism.html" target="_blank">blatant protectionism</a>, rather than a legitimate concern, with some pointing out that the Intelligence Committee seems to consistently ask Huawei to <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2012/10/08/on-questions-of-national-security-is-huawei-innocent-until-proven-guilty/" target="_blank">prove a negative and then bashes the company for failing</a>.
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But again and again, throughout the report, the pattern emerges: an allegation is made, Huawei denies it, without providing evidence deemed detailed enough to substantiate the denial, and the Committee is unimpressed.
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As that writeup notes, Huawei has not been found guilty, but is repeatedly asked to prove its innocence, and being unable to prove conclusively that it hasn't done anything, the Intelligence Committee insists that the threat is just too great.
<br /><br />
It is, of course, quite possible that something nefarious is going on with Huawei and ZTE.  But there doesn't appear to be any detals in the report that actually proves anything.  Instead, it's all just baseless allegations, followed by Huawei (and ZTE) not providing enough details to convince investigators that they're innocent.  Given Congress' history of grandstanding, this certainly raises some questions.
<br <Br/>
But... an even bigger issue is that the whole focus on Huawei may be kind of silly.  Yes, it's a Chinese company, but as others have noted, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20121008/why-america-is-really-worried-about-huawei/?refcat=news" target="_blank">basically all of our electronics products are made in China</a>, and if that country really wanted to do something questionable, why not sneak in trojan horses there as well?
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One fundamental failure of all this official hand-wringing is that it neglects the fact that many if not most of the components, with the exception of certain higher-value chips like those from Intel, are manufactured in China. Cisco Systems and Juniper Networks in the U.S., Alcatel-Lucent in France and Ericsson in Sweden, all use Chinese-made parts and carry out at least some portion of the final assembly of their equipment in China.
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Furthermore, that same report notes that, if this is just kicking off a trade war between the US and China over telco products, the US companies may get hurt a lot more than the Chinese:
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Might China respond with its own restrictions against U.S. telecom firms like Cisco and Juniper? Is this the first shot of a telecom trade war? We&#8217;ll see.
<br /><br />
If that happens, expect Cisco to be hurt more than Huawei. U.S. sales account for only 4 percent of its overall revenue, whereas Cisco&#8217;s operations in Asia, the Pacific Rim and China account for more than 16 percent, and China was its second fastest-growing market in that region after Japan.
</i></blockquote>
Yes, it's entirely possible that Huawei and ZTE are doing something bad -- but you'd think any report claiming that would have a lot more evidence than what's in this report.  Of course, considering it's by the same FUD-spewing folks responsible for CISPA, perhaps we should get used to the fact that FUD without evidence is their standard operating procedure.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121008/17080120649/congress-fear-chinese-networking-companies-ignore-that-china-makes-all-our-networking-equipment.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121008/17080120649/congress-fear-chinese-networking-companies-ignore-that-china-makes-all-our-networking-equipment.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121008/17080120649/congress-fear-chinese-networking-companies-ignore-that-china-makes-all-our-networking-equipment.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:27:57 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Former Top Government Secrets Keeper Blasts Administration For Abusing Espionage Act To Punish Whistleblowers</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've discussed the rather disappointing and immensely troubling efforts by the Obama administration, which promised more transparency and encouraged whistleblowing upon taking office, to attack whistleblowers any way it can.  As noted, the administration has been using the Espionage Act -- which is supposed to be used against <i>spies</i> -- against whistleblowers, and has done so <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/02542812739/daniel-ellsberg-others-discuss-serious-implications-wikileaks.shtml">more often</a> than all previous Presidents combined.  Of course, the first big case against a whistleblower, Thomas Drake, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110715/17491215112/thomas-drake-gets-probation-community-service-judge-slams-feds-prosecution.shtml">completely collapsed</a>.  
<br /><br />
Now it's come out that a former government official, J. William Leonard, who was in charge of the Information Security Oversight Office was so disturbed by the Thomas Drake case that he <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/opinion/why-is-that-a-secret.html?_r=1&#038;partner=rss&#038;emc=rss" target="_blank">filed a formal complaint with both the Justice Department and the NSA</a> and offered to testify on Drake's behalf that "there were no secrets at issue" and that he had never seen "a more deliberate and willful example of government officials improperly classifying a document."  
<br /><br />
Leonard held his role during the Bush administration (which was fairly notorious for secret keeping in its own right -- though not to this level).  So some may argue that it's purely a political move.  But these sorts of roles generally aren't particularly partisan, and even when there are political party differences, this sort of effort is pretty rare.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110826/00473415695/former-top-government-secrets-keeper-blasts-administration-abusing-espionage-act-to-punish-whistleblowers.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110826/00473415695/former-top-government-secrets-keeper-blasts-administration-abusing-espionage-act-to-punish-whistleblowers.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110826/00473415695/former-top-government-secrets-keeper-blasts-administration-abusing-espionage-act-to-punish-whistleblowers.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:25:12 PDT</pubDate>
<title>White House Ramps Up Efforts To Criminalize Wikileaks, As Witnesses Refuse To 'Cooperate'</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've discussed a few times how, despite all the promises of transparency and protection for whistleblowers from President Obama, the Obama administration has been by far <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/02542812739/daniel-ellsberg-others-discuss-serious-implications-wikileaks.shtml">the most aggressive</a> presidential administration in going after leakers and trying to charge them with crimes.  So it was little surprise that the feds were putting tremendous <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101217/04493912319/so-after-torturing-bradley-manning-months-us-officials-offer-him-deal-if-he-says-assange-conspired-with-him.shtml">pressure</a> on folks like Bradley Manning to admit to a "conspiracy" involving Wikileaks.  Manning <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110125/12410812818/us-investigators-cant-find-any-direct-connection-between-manning-assange.shtml">refused</a> to play along, so now the feds are <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/06/09/wikileaks?" target="_blank">broadly widening their investigation</a>, issuing all sorts of random subpoenas on people with very, very distant relations to Wikileaks, seeking something (anything!) that can be used to bring charges under the Espionage Act.
<br /><br />
Meanwhile, many who are being called as witnesses are refusing to participate, and may face jailtime themselves:
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But it also highlights a very important potential controversy: the refusal of numerous witnesses to cooperate in any way with this pernicious investigation.  One witness who has appeared before the Grand Jury has already refused to answer any questions beyond the most basic biographical ones (name and address), invoking the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to do so, and other witnesses are highly likely to follow suit.  
<br /><br />
One option for federal prosecutors when facing a witness who refuses to answer questions on this basis is to offer them immunity, meaning that nothing they say when testifying can be used to prosecute them (they can still be prosecuted, just not with the aid of anything they say while testifying).  Such an offer then precludes further invocations of the self-incrimination privilege as a grounds for refusing to answer questions, as it means there is no longer any danger that the witness could incriminate themselves by testifying.  In the event the government makes such an offer, the court would almost certainly compel the witness to answer questions.  But at least some of those witnesses -- ones who have already been subpoenaed or are likely to be -- intend to refuse to answer questions anyway, risking an almost-certain finding of contempt of court, which typically carries jail terms as a means of forcing testimony.
<br /><br />
One witness or potential witness who is considering that form of civil disobedience told me they view the attempt to criminalize WikiLeaks as such a profound assault on basic freedoms, including press freedoms -- one motivated by a desire to conceal government wrongdoing and illegality -- that they would rather be imprisoned than cooperate in any way with those efforts. That is the mindset of true principled heroism, and if it actually comes to that, anyone committed to transparency and preservation of press freedoms should do everything possible to support such persons in any way they can...
</i></blockquote>
This whole thing seems like a massive waste of resources by the Administration, seeking to punish whistleblowers and the press for revealing information that wasn't sensitive, but merely embarrassing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110609/11090814639/white-house-ramps-up-efforts-to-criminalize-wikileaks-as-witnesses-refuse-to-cooperate.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110609/11090814639/white-house-ramps-up-efforts-to-criminalize-wikileaks-as-witnesses-refuse-to-cooperate.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110609/11090814639/white-house-ramps-up-efforts-to-criminalize-wikileaks-as-witnesses-refuse-to-cooperate.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:02:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Bradley Manning Hit With New Charges; Could Face Death Penalty</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ After being <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110211/20522113065/investigators-still-cant-find-any-evidence-to-link-assange-manning-dod-insists-it-must-be-true.shtml">unable</a> to convince Bradley Manning to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101217/04493912319/so-after-torturing-bradley-manning-months-us-officials-offer-him-deal-if-he-says-assange-conspired-with-him.shtml">lie</a> about his "relationship" with Julian Assange, the government has decided to up the pressure on Manning by <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/03/bradley-manning-more-charge/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A wired%2Findex %28Wired%3A Index 3 %28Top Stories 2%29%29" target="_blank">filing another 22 charges against him</a>, including putting him at risk of facing the death penalty -- though, they insist that they will not ask for the death penalty.  In the end, however, it is up to the judge, so whether or not the feds ask for it, he is still technically facing the death penalty.  In addition, the new charges could put him in jail for life.
<br /><br />
Some of the charges seem like clear exaggerations.  Government officials have already admitted that the State Department cable leaks have done <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110119/14280012733/us-government-officials-admit-that-they-lied-about-actual-impact-wikileaks-to-bolster-legal-effort.shtml">little</a> to actually damage US diplomatic relationships or put anyone in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101018/02114711462/months-later-defense-secretary-gates-reveals-wikileaks-document-leak-didn-t-actually-reveal-intelligence-sources.shtml">danger</a>.  Yet, the charges certainly suggest both things are true.  There's a charge for "aiding the enemy," charges for "theft of public property," the inevitable (but highly questionable) "computer fraud" charges and (of course) Espionage Act charges.  It'll take some time before the reasonings behind all of the charges are understood, but the point is pretty clear: the feds don't want any more whistleblowers, so they're throwing the book at Manning as a warning shot to anyone else who wants to expose government misdeeds.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110302/16143013330/bradley-manning-hit-with-new-charges-could-face-death-penalty.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110302/16143013330/bradley-manning-hit-with-new-charges-could-face-death-penalty.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110302/16143013330/bradley-manning-hit-with-new-charges-could-face-death-penalty.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<title>Congressional Hearing On Wikileaks Surprisingly Focuses More On Gov't Overly Secretive Actions</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Earlier today, Congress held hearings about Wikileaks and, given how the government has been reacting so far, I fully expected pure grandstanding about how "evil" Wikileaks is and how Julian Assange must be brought to justice.  There <i>was</i> some of that, but it appears <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/134005-conyers-call-for-criminal-charges-against-wikileaks-extreme" target="_blank">much more of it was focused on how the US government was abusing the classification system to make things secret</a> that never should have been secret -- and how that was the real problem.  Panel chair John Conyers apparently kicked off the hearing by saying that criminal charges against Assange would be "extreme" and saying that "caution is needed" before anything is done:
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"Prosecuting WikiLeaks would raise the most fundamental questions about free speech, about who is a journalist and what citizens can know about their government," Conyers said. "The problem today is not too little secrecy but too much secrecy."
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He also noted -- in contrast to much of the hysteria we've heard -- that while the releases have been embarassing "the real-world consequences have been fairly modest."  Rep. William Delahunt appeared to echo these sentiments and again noted that secrecy by the government has been the real issue:
<blockquote><i>
"Secrecy is the trademark of totalitarianism. In contrast, transparency and openness is why democracy is all about," Delahunt said.
<br /><br />
"There is far too much secrecy and overclassification in the executive branch, and I think it puts American democracy at risk."
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Rep. Bob Goodlatte also noted that expansion of government secrecy was <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/EFF/statuses/15456031073112064" target="_blank">"out of control" and "illegitimate,"</a> while Rep. Bobby Scott noted that <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/EFF/statuses/15458639007453185" target="_blank">we need to remember the 1st Amendment</a>.  Rep. Hank Johnson warned of the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101210/12513512236/how-press-misleads-about-wikileaks.shtml" target="_blank">"chilling effects"</a> of prosecuting Wikileaks.
<br /><br />
Many panelists appeared to make similar points as well.  Thomas Blanton, the director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, told the panel that <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/EFF/statuses/15439663720300544" target="_blank">the government always overreacts</a> to leaks and that "more openness makes us more secure."  He also urged the government to <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/EFF/statuses/15440494637088768" target="_blank">"use a little restraint"</a> and to avoid rushing into charging Julian Assange with violating the Espionage Act.
<br /><br />
Of course, not everyone argued this way.  Many of the Congressional Reps still seemed pretty bloodthirsty to charge Assange.  And some of the panelists seemed to agree.  Kenneth Wainstein, a lawyer from O'Melveny and Myers, warned the panel that any lawsuit against Wikileaks would raise serious First Amendment issues but then argued that the government could easily distinguish Wikileaks from the media though he did so by misstating that Wikileaks was "indiscriminately" dumping documents -- a point that has been <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101210/12513512236/how-press-misleads-about-wikileaks.shtml">debunked</a> already.  Gabriel Shoenfeld, who is a big supporter of government secrecy, spent a lot of time talking about how there's too much secrecy and that the government leaks info to the press all the time but ended his talk by saying that doesn't apply to Wikileaks.
<br /><br />
However, even those who seemed to think that the government should still seek to prosecute Assange, they all seemed to admit that the government is way too secretive and abuses its classification privileges.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101216/10431912304/congressional-hearing-wikileaks-surprisingly-focuses-more-govt-overly-secretive-actions.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101216/10431912304/congressional-hearing-wikileaks-surprisingly-focuses-more-govt-overly-secretive-actions.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101216/10431912304/congressional-hearing-wikileaks-surprisingly-focuses-more-govt-overly-secretive-actions.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:33:22 PST</pubDate>
<title>Congressional Research Service Notes That There Are Serious Challenges To Charging Assange</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101212/21285012245/congressional-research-service-notes-that-there-are-serious-challenges-to-charging-assange.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ While a lot of the rhetoric from the US government -- concerning Wikileaks and Julian Assange and whether or not any law was violated -- has been overwrought and full of hyperbole, it appears that the Congressional Research Service (which tends to do a damn good job most of the time) has put out a nice simple report <a href="http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/secrecy/R41404.pdf" target="_blank">detailing the specific legal issues and laws that might apply here</a> (pdf), and more or less summarizes that the US government would be breaking new ground in charging Assange, and may have difficulties in succeeding.  While the report notes you could probably stretch the law to cover what Wikileaks did, it warns:
<blockquote><i>
[The] statutes described in the previous section have been used almost exclusively to 
prosecute individuals with access to classified information (and a corresponding obligation to 
protect it) who make it available to foreign agents, or to foreign agents who obtain classified 
information unlawfully while present in the United States. Leaks of classified information to the 
press have only rarely been punished as crimes, and <b>we are aware of no case in which a publisher 
of information obtained through unauthorized disclosure by a government employee has been 
prosecuted for publishing it. There may be First Amendment implications that would make such a 
prosecution difficult, not to mention political ramifications based on concerns about government 
censorship</b>. To the extent that the investigation implicates any foreign nationals whose conduct 
occurred entirely overseas, any resulting prosecution may carry foreign policy implications.....
</i></blockquote>
The report does note that there has been at least one case it's aware of where a foreign national was charged under the Espionage Act for activities done outside of the US.  But, it is quite rare, and beyond a single district court ruling saying this okay, the history and language of the Espionage Act suggest it was not designed for this purpose.
<br><br>
The report also delves into the hurdles to having Assange extradited to the US (something the US is apparently <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/08/report_us_talks_assange_extradition" target="_blank">already discussing with the Swedish government</a>), pointing out that no current US treaty "lists espionage as an extraditable offense." 
<br><br>
But the biggest hurdle is noted towards the end of the report, in highlighting the rather serious Constitutional issues associated with attempting to try Assange for anything in the US, with a lot of focus on the ruling in the Pentagon Papers case:
<blockquote><i>
Where First Amendment rights are implicated, it is the government's burden to show that its 
interest is sufficiently compelling to justify enforcement. Whether the government has a 
compelling need to punish disclosures of classified information turns on whether the disclosure 
has the potential of causing damage to the national defense or foreign relations of the United 
States. Actual damage need not be proved, but <b>potential damage must be more than merely 
speculative and incidental. On the other hand, the Court has stated that "state action to punish the publication of truthful information seldom can satisfy constitutional standards."</b> And it has 
described the constitutional purpose behind the guarantee of press freedom as the protection of 
"the free discussion of governmental affairs."
<br><br>
 [...]
<br><br>
[If] national security interests were not sufficient to outweigh the First 
Amendment principles implicated in the prior restraint of pure speech related to the public 
interest, as in the Pentagon Papers case,
 it is difficult to discern an obvious rationale for 
finding that punishing that same speech after it has already been disseminated nevertheless tilts 
the balance in favor of the government's interest in protecting sensitive information.  
<br><br>
The publication of truthful information that is lawfully acquired enjoys considerable First 
Amendment protection. The Court has not resolved the question "whether, in cases where 
information has been acquired unlawfully by a newspaper or by a source, government may ever 
punish not only the unlawful acquisition, but the ensuing publication as well." (The Pentagon 
Papers Court did not consider whether the newspapers' receipt of the classified document was in 
itself unlawful, although it appeared to accept that the documents had been unlawfully taken from 
the government by their source).
<br><br> 
The Court has established that "routine newsgathering" is presumptively lawful acquisition, the 
fruits of which may be published without fear of government retribution.
</i></blockquote>
There are definitely plenty of loopholes whereby the government can <i>try</i> to file charges against Assange, but in reading through the document it would likely be a pretty tough sell.  You can read through the entire document after the jump.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101212/21285012245/congressional-research-service-notes-that-there-are-serious-challenges-to-charging-assange.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101212/21285012245/congressional-research-service-notes-that-there-are-serious-challenges-to-charging-assange.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101212/21285012245/congressional-research-service-notes-that-there-are-serious-challenges-to-charging-assange.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:09:32 PST</pubDate>
<title>How The Press Misleads About Wikileaks</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101210/12513512236/how-press-misleads-about-wikileaks.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ As Julian Assange's lawyers <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/10/julian-assange-lawyers-us-charges" target="_blank">fully expect him to get charged in the US</a> under the Espionage Act, it's interesting (and a bit distressing) to see how some in the press -- who should be his biggest supporters -- are acting.  Glenn Greenwald <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/08/wikileaks/index.html" target="_blank">highlighted</a> how a Time Magazine report on the <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2035994,00.html" target="_blank">potential US legal case against Assange</a> misstated a variety of facts -- including the idea that Wikileaks itself had published "thousands" of classified State Department cables and that it had done so "indiscriminately."  As Greenwald points out <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/10/wikileaks_media/index.html" target="_blank">Wikileaks itself has only published a little over 1,000 of the cables</a>, and nearly all of them are the ones that the press has already posted/vetted/reported on.
<br /><br />
This is a part of the story that isn't getting much coverage.  While most of the news reports have said that Wikileaks published over 250,000 such cables, that's not exactly true.  It has over 250,000 such cables and appears to have passed them on to its media partners, but it's slowly releasing specific cables -- with redactions -- and mostly after the press partners are releasing those same cables.  In other words, it appears that Wikileaks is actually being judicious and discriminating in what it's releasing.  Or, you could say (and probably should say) that Wikileaks is actually doing much of what a journalist would do in selecting which documents to pass along at this time.
<br /><br />
But by trying to claim that Wikileaks is "just" a data dump, it's an effort to make Wikileaks look like it's not a journalistic or media entity -- thereby affording it fewer First Amendment rights.  But, it appears that some in the press, such as Time, are being quite misleading in doing so.  After Greenwald called them on it, Time issued a "correction," but it's a "correction that's not a correction" in that they basically say that <i>Assange and some others disagree with some of Time's claims</i>.  But it makes no attempt to fix the factually incorrect statements.
<br /><br />
Of course, this may come back to the view that many have: that certain elements in the press are upset about Wikileaks because it shows what a crappy job they've been doing on their own.  If we had a functioning press that actually sought to hold the US government accountable, there would be much less of a need for Wikileaks.  Instead, we have a press that focuses on keeping "access" to those in power, and that means not digging too deep at times.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101210/12513512236/how-press-misleads-about-wikileaks.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101210/12513512236/how-press-misleads-about-wikileaks.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101210/12513512236/how-press-misleads-about-wikileaks.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:41:25 PDT</pubDate>
<title>MGA Claims Mattel Acted Like Bratz In Secretly Spying On MGA Plans</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/03570110682.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ It looks like toymaker MGA has decided that if the momentum is turning in its ongoing legal fight with competitor Mattel, it might as well go all in.  As you may recall, Mattel had <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081204/1819123025.shtml">sued MGA</a> over its (extraordinarily successful) Bratz lines of dolls, because the designer who came up with the concept had done so while working at Mattel.  This resulted in an <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090527/0143345018.shtml">amazingly broad ruling against MGA</a> that required it to basically turn over <i>everything</i> having to do with Bratz dolls, including future plans, to Mattel.  This made no sense.  If Mattel was to get the rights to anything from MGA, it should have only been the original expression <i>if</i> they were actually produced under the Mattel employment contract (a point of dispute).  Thankfully, the appeals court <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100722/18242810326.shtml">realized what a terrible ruling</a> this was, and rejected most of it.
<br /><br />
With momentum moving to MGA, the company has now <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202470013967" target="_blank">filed headline-grabbing counterclaims against Mattel</a>, concerning revelations, supposedly unearthed during depositions for the case, of widespread and potentially illegal corporate espionage done by Mattel on MGA and many other toy companies, including setting up fake personas so that people working for Mattel could get into toy showcases from competitors that were closely guarded secrets.
<br /><br />
While it does make for a good story, it's not entirely clear what this really has to do with the case at hand.  Corporate espionage happens all the time, as competitors try to get a leg up on one another.  It seems like a bit of a tangent for MGA to even bother to bring this up now.  Why not just focus on the key issue of retaining the rights to the lucrative Bratz dolls?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/03570110682.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/03570110682.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100819/03570110682.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:17:35 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Where's The Line Between Whistleblowing And Criminal Leaking Of Classified Works?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100706/15453910085.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Nearly 40 years ago, Daniel Ellsberg leaked what's now known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers" target="_blank">The Pentagon Papers</a> to the NY Times, exposing a "classified" study that showed how the Johnson Administration had regularly (and systematically) lied about the war in Vietnam.  The Nixon administration claimed that Ellsberg violated the Espionage Act of 1917, since they had no authority to share those classified documents.  The administration also sought injunctions against newspapers for publishing excerpts of the documents.  Eventually, the Supreme Court allowed the newspapers to publish.  As for Ellsberg, his case went to trial, but it was thrown out due to government bungling, including wiretapping him without a warrant and slapstick government attempts to spy on and/or discredit Ellsberg.  These days many people consider Ellsberg quite a hero for whistleblowing on illegal activities by the US government.
<br /><br />
This all has become very pertinent again, as it appears that the US Army has finally  <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/manning-charges/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A wired27b %28Blog - 27B Stroke 6 %28Threat Level%29%29" target="_blank">charged intelligence analyst Bradley Manning</a> with violating the Espionage Act for his leaking of certain "classified" information to Wikileaks.
<br /><br />
And that leaves us back to square one of a very difficult question: what's the difference between whistleblowing and criminally leaking classified works?  It seems like the line is pretty clear.  If the "leak" is designed to expose otherwise illegal activities, that should be protected in some manner.  If the leak, on the other hand, has nothing to do with exposing illegal activities and, instead, is just to reveal secret (but legal) information, it probably falls on the other side of the line.  Where Manning's actions fall on this spectrum are still not at all clear -- but it seems like folks are rushing to push him into one or the other camps already.  Hopefully some more details will come out and it becomes clear where he really falls (no matter what a court may decide...).<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100706/15453910085.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100706/15453910085.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100706/15453910085.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:44:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is Getting Access To Competitors' Presentations Claiming To Be An Indy Blogger Corp. Espionage?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090821/0354265955.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ One of the things that many conferences are struggling with these days is the question of how do you handle "press passes" for events.  In the past, it was easy: there was press... and there was everyone else.  But these days, when anyone can become a publisher of their own blog or other site, where do you draw the line?  I know I've had discussions with conference organizers who fret over the issue, and generally decide on a rather ad hoc basis.  But Glurbie alerts us to a story that takes the issue to an entirely different level.  If you're a blogger... and you get a "press pass" to an industry (or competitor's) event as a blogger, rather than as an employee of your company, <a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/08/corporate-blogger-or-corporate-espionage/" target="_new">at what point is there an ethical lapse</a>?
<br /><br />
In this story, a spokesperson for Boeing, who also writes for a defense contractor blog, went to an industry event under a press pass for the blog, rather than being listed as a Boeing employee -- and then <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/08/a-defense-industry-blog-scanda.html" target="_blank">sat in on various presentations by competitors</a>.  That second link notes that this probably falls short of real corporate espionage (which the original link above raises), but does certainly raise some ethical questions.  There is a suggestion that most people in the room probably already knew the guy worked for Boeing, but it still seems odd not to admit that fact.
<br /><br />
While there's some effort to pose this story as a question about "blogging" (and Boeing is apparently reviewing its blogging efforts and thinking of shutting down the guy's blog), I'm really not sure it's a "blogging" issue at all.  The real issue is one of disclosure.  The guy didn't disclose who he worked for when that could have been rather relevant.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090821/0354265955.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090821/0354265955.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090821/0354265955.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:15:12 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Online Espionage Network, Based In China, Exposed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090329/2308464298.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ For years, there have been claims of widespread "cyberspying" of various governments by other governments, but little evidence to back it up.  Over the weekend, reports broke of a massive <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7970471.stm" target="_new">network, dubbed "GhostNet," that was based in China, and tapped into computers of multiple foreign nations</a>, mainly via foreign embassies.  The Chinese government denies that it has anything to do with the network -- though, the spying did include tapping into Tibetan computers.  While it still seems like the threat of a damaging online <i>attack</i> may be overblown -- online espionage is only going to become a bigger and more important part of any government's arsenal in the coming years.  That's why reports like this one probably shouldn't be much of a surprise.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090329/2308464298.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090329/2308464298.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090329/2308464298.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:07:56 PST</pubDate>
<title>Online Criminals Move On To Corporate Espionage</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/0321052809.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ One of these days, someone will do a fascinating study or book on the evolving nature of online crime.  It's a constantly changing phenomenon that would be quite interesting to study.  A few years ago, we noted that the ease with which script kiddies could jump into the phishing and online extortion market meant that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060427/1258251.shtml">margins were getting squeezed</a> for older online organized crime groups who had focused on such practices in the past.  Apparently, the big money now has moved away from standard phishing and <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2008-11-11-thieves-cyber-corporate-data_N.htm?csp=34" target="_new">into corporate espionage</a>.  Organized crime groups are figuring out ways to hack into company networks, suck up as much data as possible, and then sell it off to the highest bidder -- whether it's competing firms or foreign governments.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/0321052809.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/0321052809.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081112/0321052809.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:38:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Should We Be Concerned That The Military Will Use Counterfeit Routers Bought Off eBay?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080513/0246581098.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ There was a story last week that got a lot of press about how the FBI discovered that the military was using a ton of <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/technology/09cisco.html?partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss&#038;pagewanted=all">counterfeit technology equipment</a>, including thousands of fake Cisco routers.  Dan Wallach has an excellent writeup looking at <a href="http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1289" target="_new">the security implications of what happened</a>.  From the description, it certainly doesn't sound like any of the equipment was found to include any kind of questionable technology for spying, but the point is that it would have been easy enough if someone had wanted to do so.  Basically, the background is that while the government only buys equipment from approved vendors, those vendors can subcontract out the actual tech purchases to anyone.  That leads to situations where (no joke) one subcontractor purchased a bunch of fake routers off of eBay and then resold them to the government via an authorized vendor.  Or, try to follow the details of the case of the US Navy contracting with Lockheed Martin for equipment.  Lockheed outsourced the deal to an unauthorized Cisco reseller as a subcontractor.  That subcontractor turned to its own subcontractor who (yup, you guessed it) hired another subcontractor who shipped the equipment straight to the Navy.  If you lost count, that's five layers deep, with most of those layers having no real oversight on what they did.  You would think the government (and especially the military) would be a bit more careful in where it sourced its products from, but it certainly doesn't seem as though that's the case at all.  Given all that, it's almost difficult to believe that compromised equipment <i>hasn't</i> been sold to the government at some point.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080513/0246581098.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080513/0246581098.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080513/0246581098.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:37:25 PDT</pubDate>
<title>If Top Gov't Officials Need To Leave Blackberries Outside A Meeting, Shouldn't Someone Guard Them?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Apparently a Mexican press attache at a meeting with White House officials in New Orleans saw an opportunity and  <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352378,00.html" target="_new">swiped the Blackberries of a bunch of White House staffers</a>.  At many such meetings, it's required for attendees to leave their phones and mobile devices outside of the meeting room.  You would think that with such high-powered government officials that someone would then be left to guard the devices, but apparently not.  This guy grabbed a bunch of the devices and made a run for the airport, where he was caught by Secret Service officials, who promptly showed him the surveillance camera footage of him taking the devices.  His response was that he thought the devices had been left behind, and he was merely picking them up to return them to their owners, which might be more believable if the folks weren't still in the meeting room when he grabbed all the devices.  Who knows if it's true, but I'm still wondering why no one was guarding the Blackberries.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080425/122243949.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080425/122243949.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080425/122243949.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:52:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>China: No, No, No, It's Other Countries Hacking OUR Military Computers</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There were a bunch of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070904/021935.shtml">reports</a> recently claiming that various government agencies (including the US, Germany and New Zealand) had computer systems hacked by hackers tied to the Chinese government.  The details have been quite vague, and it has all the warning signs of a story that's been blown out of proportion (perhaps for political purposes).  However, China apparently feels that it's time to strike back.  While initially denying any responsibility, the Chinese gov't is now taking a different strategy, claiming that it's actually <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/12/AR2007091200791.html?nav=rss_technology">China that's been a regular victim of foreign hackers</a> breaking into its classified military computer systems.  Of course, the truth is probably that spies on all sides are constantly trying to hack into computers of foreign gov't agencies.  That should hardly come as a surprise, so all of these recent press reports are nothing more than posturing about how "shocked" gov't officials are for actions that everyone knows occurs all the time.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070912/130746.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070912/130746.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070912/130746.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>on-the-offensive</slash:department>
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