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<pubDate>Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:30:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>UK Judge: Giving Hollywood Money From Newzbin2 Would Create Chilling Effects On Innovation</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Hollywood already succeeded in getting UK courts to force ISPs to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111026/04022516521/uk-court-upholds-its-first-web-censorship-order-bt-has-14-days-to-block-access-to-newzbin2-gets-to-pay-privelege.shtml">block access</a> to Newzbin2, a Usenet service that the industry insists could only have been used for infringement.  And that led Newzbin2 to eventually shut down.  But, the Hollywood studios want more.  They've been trying to get money from the operator of Newzbin2, demanding any and all proceeds.  But, surprisingly, <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/uk-judge-denies-hollywoods-demand-418225" target="_blank">that effort failed yesterday</a> as the judge noted they had no rights to such profits and, importantly that just handing over the proceeds from a business like that <a href="http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2013/159.html" target="_blank">might create chilling effects and stifle innovation</a>:
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On [Hollywood's] case, a copyright owner's claim would not even be limited to the infringer's profits: in principle, the entire proceeds of sale would be held on trust for the copyright owner. <b>That might both be unfair and stultify enterprise</b>. The proceeds of an infringement might be out of all proportion to the profits generated (e.g. because of the cost of raw materials used in the infringing product). It might not seem just for even a deliberate wrongdoer to have to pay the copyright owner the amount of his gross receipts, and an infringer need not have known that he was breaching copyright. Further, were Mr Spearman's [lawyer for the studios] submissions correct, <b>a person might be deterred from pursuing an activity if he perceived there to be even a small risk that the activity would involve a breach of copyright or other intellectual property rights</b>. As was submitted by Miss Lambert, that could <b>have a chilling effect on innovation and creativity</b>. 
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Basically, the judge is recognizing that the entertainment industry is completely overvaluing the content, and arguing that any and all money made is 100% due to the content, and not due to any other factors.  And that's ridiculous.  The judge used some analogies:
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Suppose, say, that a market trader sells infringing DVDs, among other goods, from a stall he has set up on someone else's land without consent. The owner of the land could not, as I see it, make any proprietary claim to the proceeds of the trading or even the profit from it. There is no evident reason why the owner of the copyright in the DVDs should be in a better position in this respect. 
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The Motion Picture Association responded to this loss by saying that this is just "one particular point" in the case, and that it is planning to appeal.  And, either way, they point out, what really matters is that Hollywood shut down Newzbin2.  Yes, Hollywood killed another service that had figured out how to distribute content better than Hollywood.  And, in the end, isn't that all that really matters?  So long as Hollywood can keep killing services who do things better than Hollywood, the rest is just gravy.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130206/12161121896/uk-judge-giving-hollywood-money-newzbin2-would-create-chilling-effects-innovation.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130206/12161121896/uk-judge-giving-hollywood-money-newzbin2-would-create-chilling-effects-innovation.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130206/12161121896/uk-judge-giving-hollywood-money-newzbin2-would-create-chilling-effects-innovation.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:01:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The Onion Puts Out An Equally Accurate Report On Recording Industry Revenue Issues</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100319/0410388629.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ Ah, leave it to The Onion to successfully encapsulate <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/report_music_industry_made?utm_source=onion_rss_daily" target="_blank">the state of the recording industry</a> with a report that is basically as accurate as most of the reports that come out of the RIAA these days:
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The Recording Industry Association of America announced Tuesday that the combined revenue brought in by Warner, Sony, EMI, Universal, and countless independent music labels in 2009 totaled $18. "The music industry is back," RIAA representative Doug Fowley said. "Not only was Kenny Chesney's Greatest Hits CD purchased at a Knoxville, TN Borders for $12.99, but we also had two songs downloaded through iTunes, and our ringtone sales reached three." Fowley added that as long as no one returns or exchanges the CD, the music industry would continue to be a vital and creative force in American culture.
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<slash:department>sounds-about-right</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:39:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Red Hat And The Power Of Infinite Goods</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Lee</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080327/195124677.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ <p>The <i>New York Times</i> has a great write-up of <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/no-recession-at-red-hat/">the continued rapid growth of Red Hat.</a> Despite the looming recession, Red Hat is predicting 30 percent revenue growth in the coming year, to more than half a billion dollars. For a few years, Mike has been talking about how to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070503/012939.shtml">make money while giving away infinite goods</a>, and Red Hat could probably be the poster child for his argument. Despite the fact that virtually all of its "products" are available for free on the Internet, Red Hat is still convincing companies to pay it hundreds of millions of dollars. Of course, the reason this works is that Red Hat's product <i>isn't</i> its operating system or other software. Red Hat's product is access to the time and expertise of its employees, and to Red Hat's extensive ecosystem of developers, hardware vendors, and others who have built atop the Red Hat platform. Because Red Hat stands at the center of this tight-knit web of relationships, their employees are better-positioned than anyone else to quickly solve customer problems. And it turns out that companies are willing to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for that assistance.</p>

<p>The most interesting part of the article is where it talks about Oracle's effort to undercut Red Hat by offering the same software at a lower cost. Apparently, <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060417/1043229.shtml">as we predicted</a>, it hasn't been going too well. And it's not too hard to see why: Larry Ellison doesn't seem to understand Red Hat's business model. What Red Hat is selling isn't software, but support. And the value of a support contract is a function of the expertise of the company providing it. Not only does Red Hat have a number of key Red Hat developers on staff, but it also has a ton of strong working relationships with developers and vendors elsewhere in the Linux community. That means that if a customer encounters a bug in its Red Hat Enterprise Linux installation, Red Hat will either have an engineer on staff who can fix it, or it will have a strong relationship with the outside developer who developed that piece of software or the firm that manufactured the hardware. That makes it more likely that it will be able to address the issue quickly and incorporate the fix into the software for future releases.</p>

<p>Oracle has made comparatively little effort to either hire Linux developers or foster strong relationships with the broader free software community. As a result, Oracle isn't able to provide the same kind of value that Red Hat can. Yes, Oracle tech support can fix straightforward problems, but if they need to make changes to the code, they'll often need to go to a Red Hat engineer for help getting it fixed. And not surprisingly, most customers would rather cut out the middleman and go to Red Hat directly, even if it costs a little more.</p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080327/195124677.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080327/195124677.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080327/195124677.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:21:00 PST</pubDate>
<title>Surprise, Surprise, Social Networking Ads Suck</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
<link>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080131/164741144.shtml</link>
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<description><![CDATA[ One of the questions that came up last week in <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080131/024338138.shtml">Edinburgh</a> was whether or not social networking sites were really the big moneymakers they claimed to be.  In the discussion, what we agreed on, was that the social networking sites had done a good job in doing an "upfront" monetization, with MySpace getting a guaranteed ad deal from Google and Facebook getting a guaranteed deal from Microsoft.  However, all the details suggested that on the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060719/085245.shtml">backend</a> things were pretty ugly.  It's not hard to figure out why.  Ads work on Google because people are looking for information.  They do a search, and if the advertisement shows information that helps with the query, that makes everyone happy.  However, when it comes to a social network, usage is quite different.  People aren't looking for information about products -- they're looking to communicate with friends.  In that environment, ads are seen as an intrusion -- which is the exact opposite of ads in a search world.  That explains why Facebook was so focused on its <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071107/114946.shtml">Beacon offering</a>, which was designed to <i>try</i> (rather unsuccessfully so far) to make an advertisement about communicating with your friends.
<br /><br />
With all that said, I estimated that within a year, advertisers would begin to back away from social network advertising, unless some new, more effective, mechanism was found.  I figured it would take about a year, because the mindset of advertisers would still be focused on just getting ads on these "hot properties" and it would take some time before they realized that no one looked at the ads.  Apparently, my estimate was wrong.  Brands are already staying away.  At least, that was a <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2008/01/31/google-social-networking-inventory-not-monetizing-as-well-as-expected/">major point</a> behind Google <a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jg_i2yt0gKx7RcWhULuSV1FyNMiwD8UH43PO0" target="_new">missing</a> its earnings estimates.  It seems unlikely that this situation will get much better, unless social networks really do come up with a different form of advertising.  They need to recognize that simply throwing up ads doesn't work any more.  An advertisement can't be intrusive.  It can't be annoying.  It needs to be relevant and <i>wanted</i>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080131/164741144.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080131/164741144.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080131/164741144.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>as-expected</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:41:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Details Needed On Novell's Allegedly Soaring Linux Sales</title>
<dc:creator>Timothy Lee</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Slashdot is <a href="http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/27/1239251&#038;threshold=-1">linking</a> to a story supposedly showing that <a href="http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;63055845">Novell&#39;s Linux business has seen amazing growth</a> in the nine months since they <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061102/175252.shtml">signed</a> a controversial patent deal with Microsoft. &quot;The affect on sales year over year, for Novell&#39;s first three quarters of our fiscal year, which ends Oct. 31 -- our Linux business was up 243 percent year over year,&quot; said Novell exec Justin Steinman. But so far, at least, this growth doesn&#39;t appear to be reflected in Novell&#39;s <a href="http://www.novell.com/company/ir/qresults/">financial results.</a> If my math is right, Novell&#39;s revenue for &quot;Linux platform products&quot; totaled $32 million in the first three quarters of 2006, while the total for the first three quarters of 2007 is $53 million. That&#39;s a healthy 65 percent growth rate, but it&#39;s a long ways from 243 percent. (Novell&#39;s Open Enterprise Server is also based on a Linux kernel, but revenues from that product line have been flat at about $45 million a quarter, which would make Novell&#39;s overall Linux growth rate even smaller). What accounts for the growth we are seeing? Steinman says that customers are beating a path to his door because people want to &quot;pick the Linux that works with Windows.&quot;  But a more likely explanation is that customers are just redeeming the tens of millions of dollars in vouchers that Novell sold to Microsoft as part of last year&#39;s patent deal. Novell says it has gotten $100 million in business through its Microsoft partnership. That&#39;s more than twice as much revenue as Novell received from &quot;Linux platform products&quot; for all of 2006, suggesting that almost all the growth we&#39;ve seen so far is probably a result of customers redeeming those vouchers&mdash;and it&#39;s not clear whether Microsoft is selling the vouchers at full price or at a steep discount. Maybe we&#39;ll finally see spectacular financial growth when Novell releases its its fourth quarter results later this year, but it would have been helpful if Novell or PC World had been clearer about how they&#39;re measuring that 243 percent sales increase.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070927/154725.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070927/154725.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070927/154725.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<slash:department>fuzzy-math</slash:department>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:58:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Infosys Still Humming, Despite Pressures</title>
<dc:creator>Joseph Weisenthal</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ There have been a lot of questions raised about the <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061017/093413.shtml">business prospects for Indian IT outsourcing firms</a>, particularly due to wage pressure, the strength of the rupee against the dollar and a shortage of talented workers.  One of the big ones in this group, Infosys, has reported earnings that <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2007/07/11/infosys-fy-q1-beats-street-solid-q2-outlook-ups-08-est-in-dollars-but-down-in-rupees-stock-slips/">should help allay people's fears</a>, at least to some extent.  While the Rupee is predicted to be a drag going forward, the core business, as measured in dollars, remains quite healthy.  In other words, labor and currency concerns aren't stopping the company from profitably carrying out its business, at least not yet.  The fact that Infosys continues to thrive in spite of theheadwinds is likely a reflection of its recognition that it's not just an "Indian" outsourcing firm, as they're typically perceived as, but a global firm, with a range of value-added offerings that happens to have a large base in India.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070711/075708.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070711/075708.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070711/075708.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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