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<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 11:30:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Live Copyfraud Discussion With Jason Mazzone; Techdirt Book Club</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ As we mentioned earlier this week, we're experimenting with doing a live discussion for the Techdirt book club.  For April, the book was <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120402/11401818335/copyfraud-techdirt-book-club-selection-april.shtml">Copyfraud by Jason Mazzone</a> who will be joining us today to talk about it at noon PT (3pm ET).
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And don't forget that the book club book for May is <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120509/03251018840/combating-culture-fear-doubt-reclaiming-fair-use-techdirts-may-book-club-choice.shtml" target="_blank">Reclaiming Fair Use by Patricia Aufderheide and Peter Jaszi</a>.  We'll be publishing more excerpts in the coming weeks...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/15104018872/live-copyfraud-discussion-with-jason-mazzone-techdirt-book-club.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/15104018872/live-copyfraud-discussion-with-jason-mazzone-techdirt-book-club.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120510/15104018872/live-copyfraud-discussion-with-jason-mazzone-techdirt-book-club.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:34:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>The Difference Between Nuanced Discussion And The Evil Underbelly Of The Internet Is Apparently A Fine Line Indeed</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We recently posted what I thought was an interesting essay by musician Erin McKeown on <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120405/11221818390/perspective-complexities-copyright-creativity-victim-infringement.shtml" target="_blank">her reaction to seeing someone copy a song of hers</a>, and have that other song become a "hit."  We thought it was an interesting and nuanced exploration of some of the challenges of being a musician and thinking about copyright -- from both an emotional and logical perspective -- and thought it would make for an interesting discussion.  And, in fact, it did make for an interesting discussion.  With well over 100 comments, representing a variety of different viewpoints, there was a pretty deep dive into the myriad responses the piece brought out.  Like pretty much <i>any</i> online discussion, some of the comments were more polite than others.  But, when viewed on the whole, it struck me that the conversation was much more polite than most online discussions around copyright.  In fact, what was interesting was that because the discussion was quite nuanced, most of our usual haters didn't take part.  So we didn't have, for example, anyone calling me a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120321/04031218178/google-defends-dmcas-safe-harbors-against-mpaas-attempts-to-reinterpret-them-hotfile-case.shtml#c799">slimy lying sociopath</a> or a <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120410/14194118444/why-do-copyright-industry-profits-get-to-be-yardstick-civil-liberties.shtml#c1287">disgusting human being</a>.
<br /><br />
Some of the comments were <i>pointed</i> in their disagreement with Erin, but almost immediately others came in to defend her, and the overall discussion was quite interesting in my mind.  And, yet, a bevy of the standard Techdirt critics took to Twitter to claim that Erin's article was proof positive that Techdirt was pure evil, hated artists and was the disgusting underbelly of the internet (a very close paraphrase of actual statements).  I'm not going to link to any of these, because I don't mean to call out those people specifically.  Similarly, there was a thread on a music site that was entitled "why does Techdirt hate musicians?"  I suddenly had people tweeting at me, personally, about how I was somehow destroying music and why did I not want artists to get paid.
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I honestly can't figure out why this was the response.  First of all, we've regularly been attacked because (we're told) we never, ever post an article where we show sympathy for artists' difficult plight these days.  So here was an article, from a musician, explaining her plight -- and we get attacked <i>for that</i>?!?  Furthermore, I'm long since past the time when I could read all the comments on the site, but I do read a pretty large number of them, and the amount of hate and vitriol that has come from Techdirt haters (see above, for two very recent examples) is way, way, way, way beyond anything seen in that particular thread.
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In fact, the further you read into the comments the more you realize it's a detailed and nuanced discussion on many important issues.  People don't agree, but no one's calling each other a slimy lying sociopath or a disgusting human being.  Yet, because a few commenters (not even the majority, as far as I can tell) disagree with Erin, all of Techdirt hates musicians?  There were a few tweets and statements elsewhere saying that Techdirt hates it when artists make money.  Of course, that's ridiculous.  We regularly <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120411/11583818455/odd-future-approach-give-away-music-sell-awesome-stuff.shtml">celebrate</a> artists <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120320/02240018165/case-study-how-indie-rock-composer-musician-makes-money.shtml">earning money</a> -- sometimes <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20111222/12435717172/louis-ck-over-1-million-sales-just-12-days-drm-free-download.shtml">lots of money</a>.  What we get nervous amount is when artists start making use of laws in ways that may actually do them more harm than good in the long term, by attacking their fans as if they were criminals, or when they seek to abuse laws that take away fundamental rights of others.
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But, really, what was most amazing to me was how quick some of these people were to jump on the entire Techdirt community, because a few comments disagreed with one musician's opinion.  They ignored everyone who came to her defense.  They ignored the fact that we posted the story in the first place.  They ignored all the people on other stories who attack Techdirt supporters in often extremely personal ways (I've been threatened with physical harm as well as seen multiple comments I won't repeat about my family).   But most people -- myself included -- see those kinds of comments as part of the price you pay for having an open discussion.  Some people are going to disagree and some will use different levels of speech, some more polite than others.  To tar and feather everyone on the site because someone on it disagrees with your personal views is to suggest that every community online is a problem.
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:55:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Got Questions About Copyfraud?  Now's The Time To Ask Them!</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ This month's Techdirt book club book is <i>Copyfraud</i>, by Jason Mazzone.  If you missed them, we published some excerpts (<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120402/11401818335/copyfraud-techdirt-book-club-selection-april.shtml">part I</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120402/11404618336/copyfraud-techdirt-book-club-selection-april-part-two.shtml">part II</a>) earlier this month, and hopefully some of you have had a chance to dig into the full book.  Over on our Step2 platform we're <a href="https://www.insightcommunity.com/step2/518/discussion-questions-on-copyrfraud-techdirt-book-club" target="_blank">collecting questions and voting on them</a> to send to Mazzone to kick off the discussion, which we'll have in a couple of weeks.  You can, of course, also ask questions in the comments to this post, but we're using Step2 because it makes it much easier to track which questions get the most votes (and, if you have a login to Techdirt, it works there too, so you don't need to re-register or anything).  We look forward to the discussion on this important aspect of copyright law that doesn't get nearly enough attention.
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<pubDate>Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:30:09 PST</pubDate>
<title>Darrell Issa Posts Text Of 'Unconstitutional' ACTA For Open Feedback; Something USTR Never Did</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been really impressed (though we can see where it needs improvements in its next version) with the "Madison" platform that Rep. Darrell Issa put up to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111208/10480317011/details-sopapipa-alternative-released-with-open-requests-feedback.shtml">allow for open feedback</a> and comments concerning the OPEN Act.  And it appears he's not done using that platform, either.  He's now <a href="http://keepthewebopen.com/acta" target="_blank">posted the text of ACTA</a> to the same platform to ask for feedback and comments.  It comes with an initial statement showing that he's very concerned about the nature of ACTA (I believe this is the first time Issa has spoken out against ACTA:
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Stopping <a href="http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa">SOPA</a> and <a href="http://keepthewebopen.com/pipa">PIPA</a> was a historic victory for digital citizens, but ACTA potentially poses a similar threat to the global Internet community.  While the agreement&#8217;s stated goal of strengthening intellectual property rights is one all should support, it does so by undermining individual privacy rights and by empowering an unaccountable enforcement bureaucracy.  And just like SOPA and PIPA, ACTA was crafted without input from citizens and key stakeholders in a secretive, closed-door process.
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        Worse, ACTA appears to be an unconstitutional power grab started by President George W. Bush and completed by President Barack Obama - despite the White House&#8217;s January 14 criticism of legislative solutions that harm the Internet and erode individual rights.  The Constitution gives Congress the power to pass intellectual property legislation - like SOPA and PIPA - and gives the Senate the power to ratify treaties.  But the Obama Administration maintains that ACTA is not even a treaty, justifying the exclusion of both American citizens and their elected representatives.  It is a practice Vice President Joe Biden <a href="http://nyti.ms/zOXd75">decried</a> as a U.S. Senator.
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        Closed doesn&#8217;t cut it.  We opened up ACTA in <a href="http://keepthewebopen.com/about">Madison</a> so you can <a href="http://keepthewebopen.com/signup">sign up</a>, speak out and collaborate to build a better &#8220;treaty.&#8221;
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For all of the USTR's ridiculous claims of <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120218/01452217800/ustr-claims-tpp-has-unprecedented-transparency-it-wont-reveal-details-unless-youre-big-industry-lobbyist.shtml">unprecedented transparency</a>, why couldn't <i>it</i> have done something like this <b>before</b> ACTA was "finalized"?  The answer is that there's no reason at all.  Instead, the USTR released the "final" draft of ACTA as a done deal, and any public comment was meaningless, because the document was not open for any additional changes.
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Which raises another unfortunate point.  The Obama administration has <i>already</i> signed ACTA.  Hopefully this means that Congress is actually going to get serious about challenging the administration on its claimed authority to sign and ratify ACTA without Congress' approval.  Until now, the only Congressional official who had questioned that right publicly was Senator Wyden -- though, we've heard of a few others who have sent pointed questions to the administration about its claims.  With Issa going public and directly questioning this attempt to deny Congress the right to review ACTA -- despite the Executive branch not having the right to make copyright or patent law -- perhaps Congress will finally step up and make it clear that it won't let the President simply ignore Congress' mandate over both IP law and international treaties.
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Also, when do we get the Madison'ed version of TPP?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120306/10253718001/darrell-issa-posts-text-unconstitutional-acta-open-feedback-something-ustr-never-did.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120306/10253718001/darrell-issa-posts-text-unconstitutional-acta-open-feedback-something-ustr-never-did.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120306/10253718001/darrell-issa-posts-text-unconstitutional-acta-open-feedback-something-ustr-never-did.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:06:33 PST</pubDate>
<title>Video Of Last Week's Thoughtful Discussion On Wikileaks</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ Last week, I wrote about the fascinating <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110120/02542812739/daniel-ellsberg-others-discuss-serious-implications-wikileaks.shtml">panel discussion about Wikileaks</a> I attended, which had Daniel Ellsberg (of Pentagon Papers fame), Clay Shirky, Roy Singham, Peter Thiel and Jonathan Zittrain.  In the discussion, I noted that there really wasn't anyone on the panel who felt that Wikileaks was definitively "bad," which made some in the comments falsely assume that the panel just involved people all agreeing with each other.  Thankfully, the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMzEdkiz5tY" target="_blank">video is now up</a> (and embedded below) so you can see the full discussion for yourself.  It's long -- nearly two hours -- but worth it.  As you can see, the panel most certainly does not agree with each other, each of the participants raises thoughtful ideas and questions, with many being challenged by others.  I thought it was a very productive and worthwhile discussion that should get people thinking a lot about how they view Wikileaks.
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:17:00 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Is There A Bias In Expertise?  Or Is The Problem Just In Silencing Discussion?</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/statuses/11755393862" target="_blank">Jay Rosen</a> points us to a worthwhile read by Lane Wallace in <em>The Atlantic</em>, concerning <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/04/the-bias-of-veteran-journalists/38426/" target="_blank">"the bias of veteran journalists."</a>  The basic concept is that <i>veteran</i> journalists think they know so much about a story that they have an angle going into the story, and only ask questions to support that story.  It is <i>not</i> claiming that this is a political bias -- which is the usual charge thrown out at reporters -- but that the bias is in the fact that they think they know the story before they really know the story.  As an example, she points to her own recent experience on a certain piece of technology:
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A few weeks ago, I attended the public launch of a company's product that had, until that point, been kept tightly under wraps. The product involved a breakthrough approach and new technology that had the potential of having a revolutionary impact on its industry, as well on consumers around the world. Unlike most of the journalists covering the event, I was not an expert on that particular industry. It wasn't my normal "beat." The reason I was there was because I'd been interviewing the company's CEO over the previous several months for a book project. But that also meant that while I wasn't an expert about the industry in general, I was in the odd position of knowing more about the company's "secret" product than any other journalist in the room.
<br /><br />
It was an eye-opening experience. A lot of major news outlets and publications were represented at the press conference following the announcement. A few very general facts about the product had been released, but the reporters had only been introduced to details about it a half hour earlier. There was still a lot about how it worked, how it differed from other emerging products, and why the company felt so confident about its evolution and economic viability, that remained to be clarified.  
<br /><br />
But the reporters' questions weren't geared toward getting a better understanding of those points. They were narrowly focused on one or two aspects of the story. And from the questions that were being asked, I realized--because I had so much more information on the subject--that the reporters were missing a couple of really important pieces of understanding about the product and its use. And as the event progressed, I also realized that the questions that might have uncovered those pieces weren't being asked because the reporters already had a story angle in their heads and were focused only on getting the necessary data points to flesh out and back up what they already thought was the story. 
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Fascinating stuff.  She then backs this up by pointing to a recent study on "experts" and how they tend to be worse at predicting things, often because they're so certain of the outcome that they miss key elements of why something is different, or why what they expect won't happen.  That is, they approach the scenario with a knowing viewpoint, and therefore don't understand why it's a big deal.  This leads her to quote an anecdotal claim by a friend who's an editor, saying that new beat reporters ask the best questions, because they don't assume they already know the answers to stuff.
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I'll admit, after reading the column, my first thought was total agreement.  It makes a lot of sense, right?  And it certainly fits in well with Rosen's concept of <a href="http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2007/08/14/rove_and_press.html" target="_blank">the Church of the Savvy</a>, which involves reporters who are more focused on using their soap box to make people think that they're connected to the inside and "savvy" with how everything works, that they focus more on describing the process, rather than reporting the facts (and debunking the non-facts).  I tend to agree with that general sentiment, and this concept of "expert bias" initially felt right as well.  In a different arena we see it all the time -- when we present stories about the economic impacts of copyright law or patent law, we often get lawyers who stop by to insist that this is ridiculous -- and we should trust them because they're the expert lawyers, in spite of the actual evidence.  
<br /><br />
And, no, I'm not claiming I'm above this kind of bias either.  Everyone falls into this kind of trap at some point as well -- assuming you know more about a story than you really do.  If you're crafting a story, you have a general model of "what the world looks like" and you certainly build your story based on that.  But no one has a perfect crystal ball.  No one can understand what variables will really be key in the future.  No one can always get it right.  At the very least, I try to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080418/013552884.shtml">learn from my own mistakes</a>, and look back at why I was wrong (though, of course, no one gets <i>that</i> process right all the time either!).
<br /><br />
Still, even after nodding my head through Wallace's column, after thinking about it a bit, I'm no longer sure I really believe it makes sense.  Go back to her opening anecdote.  In that case, she's actually <i>as guilty as the reporters she's mocking</i>.  The reason she thinks <i>they're</i> missing the story is because she <i>does</i> think she's an expert: because of her time with the company, she felt she was more of an expert about that "secret" product, than those who knew the industry.  And so she got upset that they didn't follow <i>her</i> pre-conceived storyline.  Really, it's a bit of a kettle/pot scenario.  What if those other reporters, who knew the industry, actually were right -- because they knew the wider industry and the wider impact of this product, rather than only getting the one side of the story from PR people over an "insider" session (savvy!).
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On top of that, I'm not convinced about the "cub reporters ask better questions" claim either.  I've been to plenty of press events, where those reporters don't ask any questions at all -- because they're not comfortable enough to do so -- and I've also been to events where clearly unknowledgeable reporters ask really bad questions -- or are more open to being "fed" press releases as stories, because it's nicely packaged up for those who don't know how to ask the hard questions.
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So where does that leave us?  Yes, there is a problem in the bias of expertise, where people are so sure of their opinion going in that they may miss some underlying key point.  But I don't think that means that you want want naive folks covering a story either.  What's needed is that convergence of voices.  It's the discussion that comes out after all of this which presents the real value.  It's one of the reasons why we tend to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090910/1807376156.shtml">value the discussions</a> on this site so much.  If I say something stupid, people will call me on it, and there's a good discussion in the comments -- from which we all get to learn.
<br /><br />
In thinking about it some more, it seems that the real issue is not the fact that one person has too much or too little expertise in a particular subject.  It's that the whole spectrum is valuable -- and that spectrum comes out in discussion, not in positioning a single person as being the only person who can report on/talk about a particular subject.  The problem comes in the idea that any particular situation involves "the word from on high," rather than the starting point for discussion.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100407/1825418919.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100407/1825418919.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100407/1825418919.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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