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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:52:37 PST</pubDate>
<title>After All That, The Original 'Cyberstalking' Complaint That Created Petraeus Scandal Is Dropped</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ What has been somewhat forgotten in the ensuing situation that resulted in General David Petraeus stepping down from his post at the top of the CIA, is that the whole thing started when his mistress and biographer Paula Broadwell was accused of "cyberstalking" by another woman, Jill Kelley.  That led to a chain of events, including having the FBI go through various email accounts, exposing the affair and some other soap opera-y stuff involving generals.  And, in the end, <a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/12/broadwell/" target="_blank">the original cyberstalking charge, that kicked it all off, is being dropped</a>.  Of course, that only raises even more questions about why the FBI went snooping through everyone's emails in the first place.
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It was always questionable for the FBI to pursue a cyberstalking investigation against Broadwell, who used an anonymous email account, &#8220;kelleypatrol,&#8221; to tell Florida-based military officers like Marine Gen. John Allen that socialite Kelley was bad news. One former federal prosecutor told Danger Room that it was &#8220;<a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/fbi-allen/">highly irregular</a>&#8221; for the FBI to take up such cases.
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While some insist that it's fine for the FBI to snoop through Petraeus' emails given his position, it seems like they should have had much more of a reason than "hey, someone's bothering someone else online."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121218/11575721428/after-all-that-original-cyberstalking-complaint-that-created-petraeus-scandal-is-dropped.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121218/11575721428/after-all-that-original-cyberstalking-complaint-that-created-petraeus-scandal-is-dropped.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121218/11575721428/after-all-that-original-cyberstalking-complaint-that-created-petraeus-scandal-is-dropped.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:30:18 PDT</pubDate>
<title>NY State Senators Say We've Got Too Much Free Speech; Introduce Bill To Fix That</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've been pointing out a variety of attempts to push back on the First Amendment lately.  One fertile ground for such attacks are local politicians carrying the "cyberbullying" banner, in various attempts to magically <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/16073710181.shtml">outlaw</a> being a "jerk" online, usually by making it illegal to <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110620/12050914769/rhode-island-says-police-can-decloak-anonymous-people-online-if-they-find-them-offensive.shtml">offend</a> someone online.  Of course, making someone's action illegal based on how someone else feels about it is all kinds of crazy.  It also would seem to violate the very principles of the First Amendment, which bar Congress (and local governments) from passing any laws that take away one's right to free speech.
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In the past, lawmakers pushing these laws have tended to simply ignore the First Amendment issue, and focus on screaming "protect the children!" as loudly as possible (never mind the fact that kids seem <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101129/02594512038/rethinking-bullying-kids-dont-see-it-as-bullying.shtml">much less concerned about "bullying"</a> than all these adults seem to think).  However, it appears that some state Senators in NY are trying a new line of attack: going directly after the First Amendment and <a href="http://volokh.com/2011/09/30/four-new-york-democratic-senators-proponents-of-a-more-refined-first-amendment-argue-that-this-freedom-should-be-treated-not-as-a-right-but-as-a-privilege/" target="_blank">suggesting that current interpretations are way too broad</a>, and it's not really meant to protect any sort of free speech right.  In fact, it sounds as though they're trying to redefine the right to free speech into <i>a privilege</i> that can be taken away.  Seriously:
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Proponents of a more refined First Amendment argue that this freedom should be treated not as a right but as a privilege &mdash; a special entitlement granted by the state on a conditional basis that can be revoked if it is ever abused or maltreated.
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Yes, that totally flips the First Amendment on its head.  It is not a "more refined First Amendment."  It's the anti-First Amendment.  It suggests, by its very nature, that the government possesses the right to <i>grant</i> the "privilege" of free speech to citizens... and thus the right to revoke it.  That's an astonishingly dangerous path, and one that should not be taken seriously.  Of course, given their right to speak freely, state senators Jeff Klein, Diane Savino, David Carlucci and David Valesky have every right to put forth that argument -- but similarly, it allows others to point out their rather scary beliefs.
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If you'd like to see the <a href="http://www.nysenate.gov/files/pdfs/final%20cyberbullying_report_september_2011.pdf" target="_blank">full report</a> (pdf), I warn you that it is almost entirely written IN ALL CAPS (for no clear reason, there are a few chunks that revert to normal capitalization -- including a big chunk in the middle, that starts mid-section).  I have no idea why so much of the paper is in ALL CAPS, but I'm kind of offended by it.  Can we please remove their "privilege" to put out such things until they've learned to not maltreat capital letters?
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The paper attempts to list out various examples of types of cyberstalking and cyberbullying -- some of which seem pretty ridiculous:
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LEAVING IMPROPER MESSAGES ON ONLINE MESSAGE BOARDS OR SENDING
HURTFUL AND DAMAGING MESSAGES TO OTHERS;
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"Improper"?  Seem a little broad to you?  Does that mean the next person who comments here about something off-topic is a cyberbully?
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&ldquo;FLAMING&rdquo; (HURTFUL, CRUEL, AND OFTENTIMES INTIMIDATING MESSAGES INTENDED TO INFLAME, INSIGHT, OR ENRAGE);
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Whoo boy.  An awful lot of you in the comments better watch out...
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&ldquo;HAPPY SLAPPING&rdquo; (RECORDING PHYSICAL ASSAULTS ON MOBILE PHONES OR DIGITAL CAMERAS, THEN DISTRIBUTING THEM TO OTHERS);
</i></blockquote>
Holy crap.  2005 wants its silly "crazy children" meme back.  Yes, there were a few instances of this extremely brief "fad" that came and went in like a month half a decade ago.  Then the next internet meme came along.
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"TROLLING&rdquo; (DELIBERATELY AND DECEITFULLY POSTING INFORMATION TO ENTICE GENUINELY HELPFUL PEOPLE TO RESPOND (OFTEN EMOTIONALLY), OFTEN DONE TO PROVOKE OTHERS);
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Ooh, once again.  Commenters beware.
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EXCLUSION (INTENTIONALLY AND CRUELLY EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM AN
ONLINE GROUP).
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Seriously?  If we don't let you into the club, it's now a form of cyberbullying?  It makes you wonder what happened to these particular Senators when they were kids.
<br /><br />
The paper also attacks "anonymity," again ignoring how anonymity can often be extremely helpful to kids who wish to discuss things and ask questions without revealing who they are.
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As for where they're going with this?  Well, you guessed it: they're planning to introduce new laws to deal with cyberbullying (even though NY already has such a law).   The plan is to extend two existing areas of law: "stalking in the third degree" will now include cyberbullying, and "manslaughter in the second degree" will be expanded to "include the emerging problem of bullycide."
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This is basically a "Lori Drew" law.  And it's ridiculous.  If I say something to someone and they then go commit suicide, should I be guilty of manslaughter?  Do the folks behind this not realize that this doesn't help prevent suicides, but it <i>encourages</i> them in giving people who are upset by something someone said extra incentive to kill themselves to "get back" at the person who was mean to them.
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The cyberstalking part is no less ridiculous.  It's ridiculously broad.  It does not require that the person accused of cyberstalking initiate the activity, it does not require intent to harm or frighten, and a <i>single message</i> can be a cause of action.  Think about that for a second.  Someone could send you a message, you could do a single reply with no ill will or bad intent... and be guilty of the <i>crime</i> of cyberstalking.  Damn.  Do the folks writing this bill not realize how widely this will be abused?
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Hopefully no one is so offended in reading such a dangerous proposal that they go out and commit suicide.  At least be comforted in knowing that it won't allow for the authors to be accused of manslaughter until after the bill passes.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111001/00002316160/ny-state-senators-say-weve-got-too-much-free-speech-introduce-bill-to-fix-that.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111001/00002316160/ny-state-senators-say-weve-got-too-much-free-speech-introduce-bill-to-fix-that.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111001/00002316160/ny-state-senators-say-weve-got-too-much-free-speech-introduce-bill-to-fix-that.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:26:30 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Rhode Island Teen Facing 'Domestic Violence' Charges For 'Inappropriate' Facebook Message Sent To A Girl He Met</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ We've seen a growing number of vague and worrisome laws passed over the past few years to try to outlaw <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110606/22513614573/post-picture-that-causes-emotional-distress-you-could-face-jailtime-tennessee.shtml">being a jerk</a> online.  Earlier this year, we noted <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110620/12050914769/rhode-island-says-police-can-decloak-anonymous-people-online-if-they-find-them-offensive.shtml">one such law</a> in Rhode Island, which was technically dubbed an "anti-cyberstalking" law, though we worried about just how vague and open for abuse it was.  Well, we've now got the first charges filed under the new law.  <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/kashhill/statuses/116890260335624192" target="_blank">Kashmir Hill</a> points us to the news that a <a href="http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_news/east_bay/ri-teen-charged-with-cyber-stalking" target="_blank">15-year-old boy is facing "domestic violence" charges</a> for some "inappropriate" messages he sent via Facebook to a 16-year-old girl he met.  
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Police say the 15-year-old Barrington boy met a 16-year-old girl while taking classes this summer and they started to talk through Facebook.
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But police say the 16-year-old felt uncomfortable when the messages started getting inappropriate.
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Police started the investigation in July and now they've charged the minor with cyber stalking, which is now punishable under the domestic violence prevention act.
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There are a whole series of issues here.  While the text of the messages hasn't been revealed, the fact that the judgment is based on the girl "feeling uncomfortable" leaves open a wide range of possible abuses.  If I feel "uncomfortable" about comments on Techdirt, can I really have the police investigate and potentially send someone to jail because of it?  Even the RI representative who wrote the law says that this use is "not what she envisioned."  However, she then says it's okay because "the law might stop it from happening to someone else."
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Really?  Stop <i>what</i> exactly?  A boy sending a message to a girl that makes her feel uncomfortable?  That's called "most of high school" for some boys.  And since there's no clear way to determine what is and what is not appropriate here, do we really want to be charging kids under things like domestic violence laws just because they go too far in a Facebook message?  I'm not saying that the kid shouldn't be dealt with in some way if the messages really are "inappropriate," but can't they be dealt with in other ways?  Block him on Facebook or have parents punish him.  Involving the police and charges?  Seems "inappropriate."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110926/01161216091/rhode-island-teen-facing-domestic-violence-charges-inappropriate-facebook-message-sent-to-girl-he-met.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110926/01161216091/rhode-island-teen-facing-domestic-violence-charges-inappropriate-facebook-message-sent-to-girl-he-met.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110926/01161216091/rhode-island-teen-facing-domestic-violence-charges-inappropriate-facebook-message-sent-to-girl-he-met.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:15:13 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Renton Police Shopped Around Until They Found A Prosecutor Who Would Go After Anonymous Critic</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ On Friday we wrote about the Renton City police in Washington, who were somehow able to get a city prosecutor to issue a warrant to get information from Google about supposed <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110805/02595015400/police-city-use-ridiculous-cyberstalking-claim-to-try-to-identify-jail-creator-mocking-videos.shtml">"cyberstalking."</a>  Of course, the "cyberstalking" really just turned out to be some anonymous, mocking Xtranormal videos -- the kind people put up all the time.  These were almost certainly done by someone inside the police force who was frustrated about some random day-to-day politics in the force.  Going after them with felony charges is crazy.  The chief of police isn't backing down, now that the case has generated a lot of attention, claiming ridiculously, <a href="http://www.kirotv.com/news/28771556/detail.html" target="_blank">"I would rather err on the side of investigating all complaints (and) alleged criminal misconduct rather than risk failing to investigate a crime that's been reported."</a>
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But that's ridiculous.  You can investigate the misconduct pretty easily, by watching the videos, and recognizing that they're not cyberstalking.  And that's it.
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That's not at all what the Renton Police did.  Instead, it's now come out, they tried back in May to get a similar warrant from the King County Prosecutor's Office... <a href="http://www.kirotv.com/news/28783437/detail.html" target="_blank">and it was rejected</a>.  The police then asked another officer to make the case for the city prosecutor, who did issue the warrant.  Of course, the real person who should be scrutinized here is the city prosecutor who clearly never should have issued such a warrant.  KIRO 7, the local TV news station that broke this story and continues to be the best source of information on it, asked the police chief, who goes by the unfortunate name Kevin Milosevich, about this obvious prosecutor "shopping," and he said that reporters were "overreacting."
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Of course, if anything, it seems they're <i>underreacting</i>.  Shopping for prosecutors in a blatant attempt to unveil the identity of a critic for no reason other than that he's a critic seems like a massive abuse of power.  If Milosevich had any idea how this was being viewed by most legal critics, his response would have been to say they were asking prosecutors to drop the case.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110808/01024715425/renton-police-shopped-around-until-they-found-prosecutor-who-would-go-after-anonymous-critic.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110808/01024715425/renton-police-shopped-around-until-they-found-prosecutor-who-would-go-after-anonymous-critic.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110808/01024715425/renton-police-shopped-around-until-they-found-prosecutor-who-would-go-after-anonymous-critic.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:44:45 PDT</pubDate>
<title>Police, City Use Ridiculous 'Cyberstalking' Claim To Try To Identify &amp; Jail Creator Of Mocking Videos</title>
<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[ An anonymous reader points us to the absolutely crazy goings on in Renton, Washington, where the police and city prosecutor are <a href="http://www.kirotv.com/news/28758502/detail.html" target="_blank">seeking jailtime for an anonymous person (or people) who created some Xtranormal videos</a> mocking the Renton police force.  Most of the news reports on this story keep calling whoever did this a "cartoonist," but all they really did was use Xtranormal -- a popular tool that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110329/10345813676/continuing-adventures-copyright-man-episode-1.shtml">wev'e used ourselves</a> -- to create simple animated videos by typing in a script.  You can see one of <a href="http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11599075/score-parody-part-deux" target="_blank">the videos</a> embedded below (assuming it stays up):
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Given standard Xtranormal fare, this may be the most boring such video I've seen.  But, clearly, it's been created by someone who is an insider, probably on the police force, who is venting about certain administrative decisions and administrators.  The police and the city prosecutor then cooked up a search warrant (embedded below) to try to identify the person behind the videos, who variously goes by the name MrFuddlesticks, whothehellispenny or tellinthetruth.  That search warrant was obtained by a local news channel, KIROTV, who originally broke this story.  It spells out various evidence as to why the videos are clearly about people and incidents involving the Renton police force.
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And then, it tries to claim that the whole thing is "cyberstalking."  Why?  Because apparently some of the people the video is mocking say they're embarrassed about the videos.  That seems to be the extent of the cyberstalking.  As you read the filing, though, the details of the warrant appear to suggest that many of the references in the videos refer to actual events.
<br /><br />
It's extremely difficult to see how anything here raises to the level of cyberstalking.  KIROTV asked lawyer Venkat Balasubramani (whose blog posts we regularly link to here) his opinion on the search warrrant, and he noted that:
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&ldquo;The cyberstalking angle doesn't pass the laugh test," Balasubramani told KIRO-TV. "It's a serious stretch and I'd be surprised if somebody looked at it and realistically thought these acts actually fit the statute and we could make somebody criminally liable."
<br /><br />
When we asked about the more likely scenario, Balasubramani said, "I think they were trying to get at the speaker and they looked around for a statute that shoehorned their conduct into and sent that to Google and said &lsquo;turn over the information.&rdquo;
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Historically, Google and You-Tube are far more likely to cough up an anonymous animator's real name when there's a criminal case, as opposed to just an internal affairs investigation into some personnel issues.
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In fact, from the warrant, it looks like Google just handed over the info upon receipt of the subpoena, without questioning it at all.  The city was then trying to get more info from Google about the gmail address that "mrfuddlesticks" was using, in an effort to identify the person.
<br /><br />
This seems like a pretty broad overreach.  The prosecutor appears to be taking a exceptionally broad interpretation of the cyberstalking law, saying that anything done "with intent to harass... torment, or embarass" is criminal.  As Eugene Volokh has <a href="http://volokh.com/2011/08/04/is-it-criminal-to-publish-parody-videos-that-use-lewd-language-meant-to-embarrass-and-emotionally-torment-police-officers/" target="_blank">pointed out</a>, if the law really allows for such an interpretation, then the law is "clearly unconstitutionally overbroad."  Furthermore he notes:
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Moreover, the statute would be clearly unconstitutional as applied to this video, and the prosecutor and the judge ought to know this. (The prosecutor is Renton Chief Prosecutor Shawn Arthur; the judge on an earlier warrant was James Cayce, but I don&rsquo;t know what the affidavit said there, and I don&rsquo;t know the name of the judge who apparently issued the warrant based on the affidavit included with the KIRO story.) A search warrant can only be issued if there is probable cause to believe that it will uncover evidence of a crime; since the material described in the affidavit can&rsquo;t be made criminal under the cited statute, given the First Amendment, the warrant ought not have been issued. The government is not permitted to use its coercive power to identify the author of this constitutionally protected video.
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This whole thing raises tremendous abuse of power and First Amendment questions.  It seems that their entire intent is to try to identify someone who is mocking them publicly by abusing certain laws and procedures to reveal that anonymous parodist.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110805/02595015400/police-city-use-ridiculous-cyberstalking-claim-to-try-to-identify-jail-creator-mocking-videos.shtml">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110805/02595015400/police-city-use-ridiculous-cyberstalking-claim-to-try-to-identify-jail-creator-mocking-videos.shtml#comments">Comments</a> | <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110805/02595015400/police-city-use-ridiculous-cyberstalking-claim-to-try-to-identify-jail-creator-mocking-videos.shtml?op=sharethis">Email This Story</a><br />
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